Easiest thing to do would be to just make a separate HYIP board. Would also serve as a place for the leancy, roinvest, and whatever crap people are peddling these days. HYIP and gambling don't really belong together anyway, it's probably time to separate them.
They are much more accurately described as HYIP than games, I think we're just getting caught up in what it isn't, and missing what it is. When faced with the argument, 'It's not gambling, it isn't a game', then we end up debating whether it's a game or not. A better argument would be, 'It's a HYIP, and it doesn't belong with traditional gambling, and neither do the other sites like leancy.'
/facepalm HYIP/Ponzi... who gives a shit on the name? It's not gambling, and that's what people are stating. It doesn't belong in the gambling spot. |
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I had approximately 180 ltc and 1.7 btc stolen from btc-e directly after I contacted support for another issue.
I can not trust btc-e again.
Join the club my friend. |
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I'm also looking for 500 btc, I'll pay back 500,000 btc in 4 minutes.
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Phone call enabled withdrawals.
Then enter a pin.
Obviously the calls will cost money, charge 10 cents.
24/7 support. If you're making $50,000 a day in profit, you can spend $1000 a day in staff, I'm almost 100% positive you will be able to afford it if you're making 50k a day.
Waiting 24-48-100 hours for a response is crazy.
Location activated withdrawals, if you register in the United States, there is zero reason for an IP to login to your account from China.
If you plan to travel to China, you can link it in your account to enable it, with a delay of course.
Thumbprint reader 2F, laptops are starting to have this feature, and they're cheap enough to buy if you're storing 100k in bitcoin, you can afford a $30 thumbprint reader.
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3dcart.com
Full function, bitcoin/credit card enabled, it cant be any easier than this.
You add a product name, add a picture, select the price, click ok.
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Oh come on that's ignorant as fuck where do we draw the line at what is a ponzi?
Maybe the title of the thread PONZI PONZI 120% can help with the line. Or the send bitcoin here and when the next person sends me bitcoin I'll send you yours plus 20% of his. How about no algorithm being used to define terms of the game?
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You can send payments to the address even if its offline, someone please confirm, but offline wallets can only have 100 transactions sent to it without being updated.
If your bitcoin are spread between a bunch of wallets on the QT, and you send a payment, it will deduct from all the balances if it will leave a 0 balance.
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The thing about ponzis are someone always loses. They're not fair games. As you said they 'died off' pretty fast, the last people to play will 100% lose.
But they know that risk up front, if they want to take that risk who the fuck am I to tell them differently? Besides, doesn't somebody always lose? There's always a loser (usually multiple) in poker, should we stop those as well? How does everyone know the risk up front? Not everyone does. Then they're idiots for not doing their due diligence and figuring out how the game works before playing, I'm not a babysitter here to save people from their own stupidity. Nobody said a thing about it being a game of skill or luck. Your contention was that it isn't fair, because someone always loses, and what's what I was replying to. First off, you're not a babysitter, but you're paid to do a job, and your job is to mod the forums and keep users safe. What you're saying is you're to lazy to do your job, but collect your paycheck anyway. That's fair I'm not your boss. Calling someone an idiot for not researching is really mod-like, users should not have to do research on something allowed by the forums, seriously people from Afghanistan have never heard of dinosaurs, how the fuck are they going to know a ponzi is bad? And as for the someone always loses, its not the same shit, stop making it seem like it is, losing without the chance to win is not the same thing as being bad at cards. P.S. requiring a ponzi to state the fact that the last to play, will lose, wont take any time out of your busy mod schedule to do. |
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The thing about ponzis are someone always loses. They're not fair games. As you said they 'died off' pretty fast, the last people to play will 100% lose.
But they know that risk up front, if they want to take that risk who the fuck am I to tell them differently? Besides, doesn't somebody always lose? There's always a loser (usually multiple) in poker, should we stop those as well? How does everyone know the risk up front? Not everyone does. And poker is a game of skill, not a game of luck to be the first, and hopefully not the last to play the game. http://www.nbcnews.com/id/29288271/ns/us_news-life/t/judge-rules-texas-hold-em-game-skill/#.Ux-Fz4W5HYg |
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I wasn't talking about that, I was just warning that spamming isn't a good way to bring up problems.
I've stayed out of these discussions until now because I hadn't really decided about it, but as far as I can tell they aren't even really ponzis, people just get mad when they see the word ponzi and dismiss it out of hand. It's just a game like any other. I don't remember people getting this mad about those bitgem or hot potato type games which are exactly the same thing. They also died off pretty fast, much like these will soon enough.
As for posts about gambling services (assuming I believe the "ponzis" to be gambling services) or sites, would you guys rather they all be moved to service discussion? To be honest IDGAF, but I'm not going to apply rules to one specific type of thread/service/game whatever that I don't apply to all. If threads talking about ponzis need to be moved to service discussion, then so does every thread talking about x gambling site that isn't started by the operator.
If those games are to be moved, what's the criteria that separates them? Ideally it would be more general than just "ponzis go here", cause a board for less than a dozen threads is pretty worthless.
The thing about ponzis are someone always loses. They're not fair games. As you said they 'died off' pretty fast, the last people to play will 100% lose. |
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1. You think that people are stupid and can't judge for them self the quality of information?
2. You think that most people are dumb and needs to be protected?
3. You think censorship is a good thing?
4. You think that opinions you disagree with have no place here?
5. People can have whatever outlook on Bitcoin, short or long term they like, and express it as they like.
6. There is two rating and blocking systems in place on this forum, if the number of people you consider Fudders become too much to sort out manually.
7. This is not Reddit/r/bitcoin. The quality of information is magnitudes higher here because there is no brain dead "lucky go happy" censoring going on.
8. The threads you mention are easily spotted and ignored by your own brain. In a case they are numerous and prices are dropping, maybe some have ganged up trying to force the market down? You would like to know that, wouldn't you.
9. If what you are saying should have any credibility, you would demand ban's on any speculation or TA threads here.
C'mon grow up.
1. No, obviously not, it spreads fear, and the 'noob's have no real advice to follow, if you see all the time crash crash crash, what will they do? 2. Obviously so, you see the bitcoin crash inc!!! all the time. Those that don't know better, will follow the lead on that garbage. 3. Yerp censorship is a great thing. Obviously...... 4. It's not an opinion, its plain bullshit. An opinion is I like the color blue, not spreading bullshit about something you don't know about. 5. As listed above, its not an outlook, its negativity to spread panic and fear. 6. No comment, ignorant post. 7. Deleting bullshit isn't censoring. 8. What you state here is completely different than the threads I speak of. 9. No I never said ban, I said delete. |
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$30 for a full job? You only know a little html? This is more than a $30 job. More around $30 an hour.
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Petition to delete the FUD threads on sight.
Seems there are a lot of threads lately by members who have been around for a few days spreading FUD. These threads should be deleted on sight, sorry but if you've been involved in Bitcoin for 2 weeks, you don't have the right to spread panic, nor claim to know whats going on with Bitcon down the road.
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Probably should not be any different than dollars, but you may get an exchange fee from your bank.
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You need the tor browser to open the link.
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New technologies develop all the time, google is in the process of designing wifi ballons.
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They're a bunch of scam artists. Self appointed and donation funded but no actions. It's like the funds are donated only to keep them alive for the what if.
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