I really don't understand what the point is in creating this thread, maybe it would be a case of you being clearer and in a few words saying what you really want. about your discussion with another user, I think that the other user has the right to give his opinion, he is not breaking the forum rules and I don't see a problem with his post. If you don't like the things he posts, you can respond to him using your arguments, there is no need to create a thread for a meaningless reason. Now if you want to suggest some change in the forum then you have to create a thread in the meta section, if you don't like the user who is simply expressing his opinion in a casino thread, then you can create a thread in the reputation section.

Couldn't his betting history tell us this? IIRC you said once about how certain pattern of bets [IIRC it was about a consecutive bets that's made on low market league, but my memory is very vague on it] can give us an idea whether a player manually placed their own bets or use automated service?

Umm... a tad bit curious and bemused, how exactly do you expect OP [or anyone else] to answer this?

The answer will most likely always a "no", even if someone actually did use bot. They fully aware that the usage of automated service is against the platform's rule, I don't think someone will admit such violation and dig their own grave.

Wouldn't it be easier and more transparent to analyze OP's betting history and rely on your analysis whether OP used bot or not instead of asking him that?

Okay like a stale line I see what you mean, no I didn't bet on any of those.
Their prematch sportsodds are just pinnacles lines and their live odds are the same as bet365.
Not sure if they use the same software or are scraping the odds, but it's all the same shit.

Not really much 'abuse' I can do there, if I could beat pinnacle or 365 live using a bot I would move countries and become a millionaire.

I have spoken to a lot of profitable bettors in the betting world and not one person has ever mentioned something like a betting bot that just wins you money.
How would this even work? I've been betting for a living for 6 years now and I can tell you this is not a real thing.
Unless you mean a betting model that runs data and gives projections, but I don't think this is what you mean either.

Also can you elaborate on betting into bad lines? For example in my cancelled bets Seattle Surge @ 2.58 I would say is a value bet.
Am I not allowed to bet this line on their site because I think they have priced an incorrect line?

Do they have valid license from Hacksaw gaming? Its pretty clear that the casino doesnt have the funds to pay you. Stay away from BetCrypto.cr.

I hope the casino pay soon, its not good to have debts caused by gambling. Gambling can ruin your life.

So far we discover him 1 extra account since we don't do KYC we have to be strict with this rule of no multiple accounts we have discovered players opening multiple accounts to try to favor the sports odds, collusion , trying to find ways to exploit our cashier software etc

Since we don't do KYC we don't know if at any time he has open more accounts and try to exploit the site on some form

We put the rules in place, it is even read and bold he as a player has to read them if he don't like it so don't deposit

Also look what he just put about gamdom he clearly isn't reading the terms and conditions of other sites.

I am not using a bot.
I don't even think there's such thing as a bot which can place value bets, how would that even work?
Sounds like something made up by betting sites

I talked to a mate of mine who experienced the same shit because he won as well. Im curuous if you or anyone here thinks its ok to just get your account disabled without telling you why when you have around 3.5k in that account? that is a lot of money to me and to many people, it freaked me out, because I know how sites have fucked me and other people before.  Also the  "here make your kyc within 180 minutes"  and if you dont, you have to contact us again and wait another 24 hours for a another mail. Is just awful, there is no need for it when 99% of other sites dont jerk you around like this, Anyways im happy i did get what was mine.

Hopefully, Stake will accept your documents this time for the address verification. You should prepare yourself for the next step (source of funds verification) now. There is no option to create pressure on Stake team by any method to make this process easier for you. All you can do is to prepare the documents which they are requesting from you. I would like to suggest you to submit a complaint on CasinoGuru for having a better communication for the process. Another user had created a scam accusation here who was struggling with level 3 and level 4 verification of Stake. He was able to verify after trying for almost ~6 months. The user got good help from CasinoGuru team. You may follow his case here: Stake Casino - Player’s withdrawal delayed due to KYC process.

That is fine by me, I'm willing to go along with that.

If I am not mistaken, and unless I understand things wrongly, what you asked theymos was if he's okay with people [specifically, me, though I did not say I am interested to offer that specific model you proposed to him] opening a service of binding arbitration, of which theymos replied that he doesn't mind, and that people does not need his permission to start such service.

The question [and answer] was not about a binding arbitration section, it's about offering an independent service, of which I can understand that [the way I understand it] theymos seems surprised that you said I am interested to offer, because I think he knows I solve things here without looking for anything in return, other than contributing to the forum and help others, that'll be quite likely a direct opposite of offering an independent binding arbitration service, since the service-provider might wish something in return.

Bottomline: the topic you raised and he addressed was about a service that's separate from and is nowhere part of the forum and/or supervised by the forum. Thus, not a section.


I'll repeat and change part of my earliest sentence in this post into a question: unless I understand things wrongly?

Hi guys. The OP has clarified everything by himself. Nothing to add... We can't disclose how our fraud detection algorithm works.

First, I cannot prove or disprove guilt or innocence but the burden of proof has to lay with the one alleging there was wrongdoing. If I post an allegation about you stealing $2400 I have to provide some evidence to support my claim. Plucking allegations out of thin air or making them on weak foundations is not the way forward and never has been.

Second, if the OP has not even explained the full story and does not provide screenshots of transaction, account area etc then there is no compulsion on any member to waste their time speculating about what might (or might not) have happened?

I bet at sportsbet.one for a week from apr25, deposited 0.92 eth and withdrew 1.52 eth sucessfully.

Then had 3 pending bets left when they cut my account limits, they didn't settle them after 2 days of the result and after speaking with live support they told me they were having some issues. and would settle everything within 10 days..

another week after that conversation, they have now cancelled all 3 of my won bets, not returned the stake to my balance. basically just stolen the money, here's the cancelled bets:
https://prnt.sc/S5WGelBDSgEN

they then accused me on live support of various vague things:
- bets are made by a group of clients acting in a coalition to bypass the restrictions established by the betting company;
- the client is suspected of using any software that automates the process of setting bets;
- the client uses the game account to play in arbitration situations;
- the client abuses the loyalty programs.

I have done none of these things, more than happy for them to come to this thread and provide what 'proof' they have of me breaking their terms and conditions, I will post my entire bet history below:
https://imgur.com/a/FhkmvcI

Looking at their recent trustpilot it's spammed by people having the same issue, stay away.

The OP is not posting here and for that reason there is no way to understand what the full allegation against Sportsbet actually was. It is not fair for others to speculate when the OP can write walls of text but not even explain what he claimed happened.

I have decided to unwatch this thread because quite clearly it has been derailed to the point the OP has become obsolete and everything that remains has become off-topic.

Before reading your post I was about to ask the OP to at least provide some element of evidence to support his allegation because it really does sound ludicrous to believe that Sportsbet would selective scam their customers especially for a miniscule amount as a $2400 win.

Can you provide a link for this alleged incident if has been reported in this forum as an alleged scam. It is important to stay on topic but if for the sake of reference another case is being mentioned members cannot take the word of another member at face value. As long as you can provide some sort of link that explains the alleged scam, it can be looked at.

Who lectured you?

Resolved or Unsolved? Only the player can inform the community about the nature of the case. All we can do is speculate. The player last posted on 6 May. They were online 2 days ago, but didn't post anything. Unless they break silence soon, it's pretty self-explanatory that this is finished.

Funny how we are getting threads emails, first just asking to pay that account, and today we got this one threatening a Ddos attack if we didn't pay, btw they were successful for a couple of hours



Also

1) You broke the rules by opening multiple accounts
2) Now you are sending thread emails

But that's just the thing, we have no idea what happened. The OP didn't tell us. What we know from the posts they made is that they won some money and had their withdrawal request denied. From that point on, we are completely in the dark. I think the player was asked to conduct KYC, but they didn't want to. We know they spoke to Steve and acknowledged his efforts in trying to fix the situation, but that apparently didn't fix things in the player's favor.

We still don't know what the casino asks of the player and what it is that the player can't provide. It's got to be something related to identity verification and their place of residence, otherwise the player wouldn't have posted those reviews and warnings they copied from somewhere on the internet.

Don't you find it unusual that the player hasn't said what is wrong with their account and their withdrawal request? Besides thanking Steve, there are no further accusations or more information about the situation from the player's mouth. Maybe I am wrong, but to me, that sounds like the player has realized that they are in the wrong and this case is finished. If not, I'd love to hear what the player has to say and why they have been quiet ever since speaking to Steve.