Looking for more crypto casino options,used to play on stake but had kyc asked over,is there any that has absolutely 0% chance of that being asked ?
ps: if you are a winning player (i know its rare or impossible) or won a big jackpot on any crypto casino, i would like some tips if you can,i can pay for your time,my telegram is @ ellieljonzz
The only sites I know with 0 chances to ask KYC are not big unfortunately. But AFAIK Freebitcoin never ask any KYC even to its biggest high rollers. They are even working on a full non-custodial and decentralized casino, it should be released in the coming months. Besides that, Nitrogen doesn't ask any KYC too AFAIK, Yobit provides a dice game and few other games while they never ask KYC. Nitrobetting, Betcoin, Playbetr, Freebitcoin are sites that never ask for KYC unless you use a VPN. |
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Why do people keep saying that a license helps security of the players? An inside job is where most of the player information is stolen and then sold. Name one time a governing body ruled in favor of a player. I'm sure there are a few but I can't remember any.
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Perhaps, whether the casino have the Kyc or not, I am pretty sure they both have advantages and disadvantages. And the majority of the gamblers here in the crypto space will also choose with no KYC, and some will in favor with Kyc. But I wonder why they have Kyc at some casino platforms since the players is just playing only in the games they have.
There are basically two reasons why casinos ask for KYC verification, the first one is that if they have a license then they have to comply with the requirements set by the law to maintain that license, which means forcing some of their customers to go through KYC, the second reason is that many hackers and scammers took advantage of casinos and used them as impromptu mixers by depositing dirty coins and then withdrawing clean coins from the casino, so casinos got tired of that and if you use a lot of money when you gamble then you could be hit with a KYC request to avoid something like that. AML is definitely a reason for KYC which is why I think a one time rollover is acceptable. No KYC and one time rollover is best. |
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UPDATE They confirmed with me today that the winnings were legit and I did in fact clear the bonus. Was told to request a 6k withdrawal as it’s within their weekly 10k/week limit and that a manager will be emailing me. Seems like they will be honoring the payout? So far still haven’t received the 6k or gotten an email from the manager. Will post further updates as this develops. As for posting on the scam section, due to this update I will be waiting another 24 hours if nothing is received by then I will be proceeding with posting this there in greater detail. The part of the pic I blacked out showed player name and details so due to privacy reasons I blacked it out [https://imgur.com/a/LWNHNGq]( https://imgur.com/a/LWNHNGq) This is great news. Make sure not to lose it back. Many times these stall tactics are there hoping the player loses the money. If this is life changing money to you then you'll never forgive yourself if you lose most of it. The only reason that I say this is that unfortunately most people in your position do lose the money back. |
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From one point of view, there is no risk here. Again lately if we see the number of data thefts increasing day by day. Now there are many scammers who steal people's information from KYC verification and sell them.
This is a bit contradictory! First you say there is no risk then you acknowledge that there are many scammers and thiefs targeting users'p personal information! My concern is that there are many people who still don't realize how valuable their personal information are and how scammers and fraudsters can use them in their scam schemes. The best thing is to check not only the legitimacy of the site and even the track record of the owner. It also helps knowing what are the KYC third party platforms and their reputation. If I own a casino, I would not like to risk the reputation of my site nor the possible legal actions that could take place if my system is hacked. For that, there are a number of thrid party specialised companies with the right security. It doesn't have to be a hack, it could be an inside job. The bigger the book, the more likely that the player list will be stolen and sold. A license or the reputation of a book doesn't make any difference. No one wants to buy a small player list but a big one is valuable. Ledger was breached and one million email addresses and other personal information were leaked. If Ledger can be hacked, all sportsbooks can be hacked. |
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Currently there are many trusted gambling sites that you can play on but you should not play on new gambling sites and do not have large backup funds. In the gambling business, many problems are often found, such as operators who cheat and also users who cheat (manipulating bonuses, promotions, etc.). So the gambling sites that have survived until now are those that already have a new system and also large loyal users such as stake, roobet, 1xbit, primedice and betfury.
Yes, there are many trusted gambling sites out there, even fresh gambling sites can be more trusted than 1xbit. Also, In the gambling business, there many problems that the platform and users may encounter however operators who cheat and refuse to provide assistance to their users is one of them just like what 1xbit is. So don't suggest 1xbit as an alternative for 1xbit. Common man , He is a 1xbit Shill account so what can you expect from Him and His troops? There are dozens if not Hundred of them in the forum now that constantly posting wearing 1xbit signature and shilling all over the forum, Look how he posted in this part , He mentioned other gambling site but only Link of 1xbit is there flashing lol. The title should be a better alternative because there are a lot of good alternatives to 1XBIT where you can be comfortable in depositing and playing, knowing that the casino is fair and they treat their players fair and they answer complaints in real-time, you cannot get this on 1XBIT, the complaints are all the same, they will accuse you of cheating, ban you without explaining their side or not giving you a chance to address the accusation.
Yes , even New sites are better than 1xbit , though new sites may scam yet at least not that many cases than 1xbit is facing . I'm not a fan of 1xbit but trying a new site is even worse. 2 year minimum to trust a book. After 2 years, then they normally make it. With the World Cup upcoming there will be a lot of new sites that will take the money and run after the World Cup. |
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1xbit is being operated by scammers. and they are scamming since 2017 - You took a good decision not to use this website. And decided to look for such platforms that are honest with its users therefore I've found some casinos for you that have good reputation on the forum and if their users ever face problem then they try to issues as soon as possible. The only must is for it to have sportsbook.
Aq You can choose one of them. Some of the good and potential over the forum. The only thing is that freebitcoin doesn't have a sportsbook. For some reason people overlook Betcoin. No doubt Stake is good but Betcoin is almost identical and Betcoin has better lines and more offerings especially live betting. |
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Will surely do that and will go through on the criteria on how to rate a sportsbook, thanks for the link. And should be a good place to go through by the OP of this thread if he really wanted more legitimate sportsbook. Thanks rhomelmabini. Your review of other books is helpful too. Rating's guides should be more than just the opinion of one person. Opinions from the forum helps us all. I'll never delete the opinion of a poster whether good or bad about a book. |
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Which casinos are overall loved around here? Which one is safe to deposit my money on? Which one is your personal favorite? The only must is for it to have sportsbook. That’s what I am interested in. Oh and to be safe and honest. That’s also a must  Since you want a sportsbook casino then let me answer the questions with trusted casinos in here, this could differ on different users' preferences but I'd likely be sure you'll land on trusted sites. 1. Roobet.com, Rollbit.com, freebitco.in, sportsbet.io, stake.com, fortunejack.com, and bitcasino.io. These are just among the sportsbook I've tried in the present and in the past and I assure you they're trusted. 2. Those sites I mentioned in number 1 are definitely safe, just don't leave a huge amount in it just in case there are hacks that might happen. It's rampant and casinos this big aren't an exception. 3. Roobet, Rollbit, and Stake. I don't have a review up for rollbit yet. If you have time, feel free to post your thoughts on rollbit here. https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=717790.0 |
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KYC will be in all this things that are near cryptocurrencies - casinos, exchanges, marketplaces, etc. This is reality and we have to deal with it. It works in real life business and soon in the cryptocurrencies will be the same. The casino without KYC will mean that we can`t trust them.
Private data can become a problem even when you use trusted reputable casino. But this the same with the common business - hackers can get your private data in both choices.
In the future, not all casinos or marketplace will implement the KYC/AML and it doesn't mean either that every casino, marketplace, or store that didn't implement KYC shouldn't be trusted but people have to do research about the casino, marketplace, and store they wanted to use. Mind you, there's a casino on this forum that also implemented KYC, and everybody that participated in their campaign is red-tagged. About privacy data being a problem if private information of users gets stolen by a hacker, this can be minimized if people can maintain the KYC tier level in which only their residing information is needed to perform the KYC. There are big casinos in this forum that don't require KYC to their small time players. But it doesn't mean, they are not trusted. It depends on how they build their credibility in this community. There are even several long-time casinos here which are not yet licensed, and yet, they have loyal patrons that are continuously playing. But if you do happen to submit KYC to a casino, better make it worth your risk and you have done your homework. That's a really good post TimeTeller. I'd rather play at a casino with no license and a 5 year history without problems than a new book with a license. Having a license is no big deal. Giving out your name, address, phone number, passport and selfie can be a big deal. @TimeTeller, You totally understand my point but I believe all gamblers don't have the same viewpoint and we have some who didn't care about going through KYC. What I believe thats important now is people make sure the casino they are going to use is worth the trust giving their private information because a lot of no KYC casinos are implementing KYC this day. @Peeps Place, just read what I said above because as crypto get more exposure the lawmaker will focus more on crypto gambling site. I'd agree that more laws are heading for crypto-currencies but it all depends on where the casino is located since each country has their own laws. Costa Rica isn't going to change their laws on gambling. Curacao is looking to change laws but so far they have been good about allowing play without KYC. |
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I'd rather play at a casino with no license and a 5 year history without problems than a new book with a license. Having a license is no big deal. Giving out your name, address, phone number, passport and selfie can be a big deal.
Well, it takes time to build a good reputation. Having a license doesnt guarantee that casinos can be trusted and unlikely to turn shady as time goes by. Its just one of the criteria in choosing where casinos to play. Thats why its a must to conduct a research on where casino to play. Its a big deal to give out your personal information since worse scenario can happen. Thus we need to make sure that the casino is trusted by many gamblers. Its a plus point if this particular casino is existing for years already and has no bad record. The license gives members confidence that the casino is registered with a regulatory body so that we can report it to the regulator if anything happens to the casino or our account. So by playing at the casino, it is hoped that we will not have problems in the future even though it does not provide a guarantee. But indeed, before providing our documents for verification, we need to do some research so we don't choose to play at the wrong casino. In addition, we are lucky to have already a list of casinos that we can use as a place to play gambling and become our favorite gambling. For me having a gambling platform license is one of the reasons why we should trust the gambling platform because by this the players have an assurance to get back with those gambling if they got scammed of those platforms. Also without a gambling license is a risk because anytime soon once they got enough funds they can get back and shut down their platform easily but tons of assets came from their players. Still its players preferences and risks of it. How many times does a governing body rule in favor of the player? Almost never. Gambling commissions aren't there to help players, they are set up to make money off the casinos. If you want help, get it from BCT, other forums or sites such as Ask Gamblers. |
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I'd rather play at a casino with no license and a 5 year history without problems than a new book with a license. Having a license is no big deal. Giving out your name, address, phone number, passport and selfie can be a big deal.
Well, it takes time to build a good reputation. Having a license doesnt guarantee that casinos can be trusted and unlikely to turn shady as time goes by. Its just one of the criteria in choosing where casinos to play. Thats why its a must to conduct a research on where casino to play. Its a big deal to give out your personal information since worse scenario can happen. Thus we need to make sure that the casino is trusted by many gamblers. Its a plus point if this particular casino is existing for years already and has no bad record. I'm much more familiar with sportsbooks. Here's a list of F rated casinos. Many had licenses and stole player's funds. "F" rated books or out of business
1x2coinsportsbook (2018)
Ball2Win
Betbit
BetCas
betking.io sportsbook closed Nov. 2018.
Betlake.com
betmatch.io closed 2018.
Betraft.com
Betroar.io (2020)
BetVIP
Bitbook
Bitbm
Bitcoinsport
Bitcoinlivebets
Bitcoinrush.io
Bitgame.online (2017)
bitsport.bet
Blockbet
BTCBonusBook (2015).
Casinoco (2015).
Coinbet
Coindrafts (2014)
Cryptobet.com (2020)
Dimecrypto.eu
DirectBet
Ghostbook (TOR)
Gobetgo (2013)
Jetwin.ps
Kawbet.com (2020)
Malubit (2019)
Match365
Powerbet (2016)
Sportbet.im
StakeBTC
Webetcoins
webet7.com https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=717790.0 |
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KYC will be in all this things that are near cryptocurrencies - casinos, exchanges, marketplaces, etc. This is reality and we have to deal with it. It works in real life business and soon in the cryptocurrencies will be the same. The casino without KYC will mean that we can`t trust them.
Private data can become a problem even when you use trusted reputable casino. But this the same with the common business - hackers can get your private data in both choices.
In the future, not all casinos or marketplace will implement the KYC/AML and it doesn't mean either that every casino, marketplace, or store that didn't implement KYC shouldn't be trusted but people have to do research about the casino, marketplace, and store they wanted to use. Mind you, there's a casino on this forum that also implemented KYC, and everybody that participated in their campaign is red-tagged. About privacy data being a problem if private information of users gets stolen by a hacker, this can be minimized if people can maintain the KYC tier level in which only their residing information is needed to perform the KYC. There are big casinos in this forum that don't require KYC to their small time players. But it doesn't mean, they are not trusted. It depends on how they build their credibility in this community. There are even several long-time casinos here which are not yet licensed, and yet, they have loyal patrons that are continuously playing. But if you do happen to submit KYC to a casino, better make it worth your risk and you have done your homework. That's a really good post TimeTeller. I'd rather play at a casino with no license and a 5 year history without problems than a new book with a license. Having a license is no big deal. Giving out your name, address, phone number, passport and selfie can be a big deal. |
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Dunno if there is a list somewhere but i was wondering if some of the crypto sportbooks are VPN friendly and which sportbooks are those?
Many websites could accept in start if you are using VPN but they could later ban you anytime if they notice anything suspicious with your account. It is risky so I would not suggest doing this, and they could think you are trying to bet from some restricted location. If you want to be sure about this you could ask support from this websites before you deposit any coins. The majority of crypto bookies don't accept customers from US, better not to ask support and raise a flag that can cause account ban. Especially Stake is most popular one untill they request KYC and there is a risk of blocked funds in case of breaching ToS. Unpopular bookies are risky too, they look like VPN friendly but odds and Vip rewards are below than average gambling platform. Those in the US are pretty much limited to Nitrobetting for sports wagering. |
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As long as you use the same IP, casinos shouldn't ask for anything. KuCoin is a great exchange because of their KYC policy. Casinos should be similar.
I sense something in kyc verification I see that you cannot compare exchange platform kyc with a gambling live casino kyc I will say that exchange platform kyc is more of important than gambling site verification because exchange you don't want to verify who you are and what kind of transactions you do if your document is from original source then your account will be granted what do you offer changing it amount you needed to exchange, but casino is just it's like verification to make a withdrawal for a platform I'd agree they aren't the same. I just think that KuCoin is the best of the exchanges as far as KYC. With casinos, people are brainwashed into thinking that they should hand over KYC. It doesn't matter how much you win at a Las Vegas casino in blackjack, craps, baccarat and roulette, you don't have to give them any information. |
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If you were given a choice, would you play regularly in a cryptocurrency casino WITH KYC, and with added benefits like first deposit/welcome bonuses and cashbacks?
Or would you like to play regularly in a casino, WITHOUT KYC, BUT also without the welcome bonuses, cashbacks and other extra rewards?
I’m slowly getting OK withe the KYC thing since until now, I’m still safe from any hackers and scammers so I think its ok for me to play with those casinos who are asking for a KYC, though of course it must be a good casinos before I try playing and giving out my personal information. Many still prefer a KYC free casinos, and many are still with this and of course promotions are part of the casinos already so with KYC or none at all, I believe promotions will still be there. Even myself wont really be seeing any problems with KYC since im not really hiding something but what matter me the most is to those informations to be leaked out on the internet on which you cant really be sure on where those informations would really be floating around which is really something a very risky thing for you as a user and this is where most people do really care off or really mind off. You cant really be sure if the platform would be trusted with those information or not but if you are a person who dont really care out about these probabilities then you wouldnt really be that much affected. Player lists with all information given is stolen from all books because the information is valuable. Most of the time it's stolen and sold to other gambling sites. It makes it easy on them to target potential customers and saves on costs of mass marketing to the general public. If you give credit card information and passport, drivers license or social security number, then there's a definite risk of your information being used for fraud. Casinos in Costa Rica are the safest to keep your information private. After that it would be Curacao. |
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As long as you use the same IP, casinos shouldn't ask for anything. KuCoin is a great exchange because of their KYC policy. Casinos should be similar.
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I think there are more countries other than what's listed such as France that Sportsbet restricts. If you use a VPN, then you may be asked for information after winning. I'm not trying to pick on Sportsbet, just replying to AbuBhakar. 3.3. You are aware that the right to access and use the website and any products there offered, may be considered illegal in certain countries. We are not able to verify the legality of service in each and every jurisdiction, consequently, you are responsible in determining whether your accessing and using our website is compliant with the applicable laws in your country and you warrant to us that gambling is not illegal in the territory where you reside. For various legal or commercial reasons, we do not permit accounts to be opened or used by customers resident in certain jurisdictions, including the United States of America (and her dependencies, military bases and territories), Australia, United Kingdom, Estonia, Germany, Netherlands or other restricted jurisdictions ("Restricted Jurisdiction") as communicated by us from time to time. By using the Website you confirm you are not a resident in a Restricted Jurisdiction. Iv'e been betting with them for about 2 months and had profit of 3000$+
Then after my balance was empty i deposited about 1300$ and then they didn't allow me to bet or withdraw.
After contacting them they first asked me to do KYC, then they accused me for multiaccounting, and today they accuse me for "being part of a betting syndicate" 🤦♂️
this is ridiculous, i could understand the multiaccounting accusation, since i'm using a popular VPN that could have made them to think that multiple users sign from the same ip, but a betting syndicate?!
I follow a tipster that that has hundreds of followers and most of its tips are being used by many users in a manner that the odds drop dramatically short time after he post them, so i guess there are multiple users that make the same bets, but i don't believe it's a reason to label me as a member of a betting syndicate.
Their support refuses to return my money for 2 weeks already.
What can i do? https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5280174.0This is the case I've talked about earlier. KYC'd account was used as a hub for the local gangs where betting was outlaws. Hence they have to buy an already KYC'd and use VPN to mask it. A good reason why many bet sites also have the max payout for winning since they want to make sure an account can't become the main hub. If the local gangs want to expand, they will have multi account since the payout restricted. More chance for bet sites to cross reference data from those accounts to conduct an investigation, deen if the using VPN is legit or fishy. The reason doesn't matter since it's happened so many times. Sportsbet will always take your deposit. If you win, they may do KYC and confiscate your money. |
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I think there are more countries other than what's listed such as France that Sportsbet restricts. If you use a VPN, then you may be asked for information after winning. I'm not trying to pick on Sportsbet, just replying to AbuBhakar. 3.3. You are aware that the right to access and use the website and any products there offered, may be considered illegal in certain countries. We are not able to verify the legality of service in each and every jurisdiction, consequently, you are responsible in determining whether your accessing and using our website is compliant with the applicable laws in your country and you warrant to us that gambling is not illegal in the territory where you reside. For various legal or commercial reasons, we do not permit accounts to be opened or used by customers resident in certain jurisdictions, including the United States of America (and her dependencies, military bases and territories), Australia, United Kingdom, Estonia, Germany, Netherlands or other restricted jurisdictions ("Restricted Jurisdiction") as communicated by us from time to time. By using the Website you confirm you are not a resident in a Restricted Jurisdiction. Iv'e been betting with them for about 2 months and had profit of 3000$+
Then after my balance was empty i deposited about 1300$ and then they didn't allow me to bet or withdraw.
After contacting them they first asked me to do KYC, then they accused me for multiaccounting, and today they accuse me for "being part of a betting syndicate" 🤦♂️
this is ridiculous, i could understand the multiaccounting accusation, since i'm using a popular VPN that could have made them to think that multiple users sign from the same ip, but a betting syndicate?!
I follow a tipster that that has hundreds of followers and most of its tips are being used by many users in a manner that the odds drop dramatically short time after he post them, so i guess there are multiple users that make the same bets, but i don't believe it's a reason to label me as a member of a betting syndicate.
Their support refuses to return my money for 2 weeks already.
What can i do? https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5280174.0 |
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