Having or not having a signature campaign on Bitcointalk is certainly not a factor I consider. In fact, I think there are many casinos on my list that never had one if I am not mistaken.  

I used the word 'valid' in my previous reply, which means more or less as your term legitimate. I don't consider the existence of a scam accusation without valid proof as a scam. You can be certain that if I find and get involved in a thread in Scam Accusation and side with the accuser that I will remove that casino no matter its name or popularity. I haven't been to the Scam Accusation board in some time, but will check it in the near future.

I think we had this conversation already. I don't think many people on this forum use Nitrobetting nearly as much as Stake or Sportsbet, hence the missing accusations. It's also possible that Nitrobetting has changed or are changing from their dubious past.

My Withdrawal Fees and Withdrawal Amounts on Crypto Casinos thread doesn't include negatively-tagged casinos and those with valid scam accusations against their name. I have removed a few sites from the table because of scamming Bitcointalk users after checking those cases. Nitrobetting is connected to NitrogenSports in some capacity or the other, and NitrogenSports doesn't have a good reputation on this forum. That's why I won't make them a part of my collection.  

This is the first time I hear about Gamebetr. Don't you mean Playbetr? Playbetr used to have their own site but merged with Betcoin some time ago. I remember it from my withdrawal fees thread. Betcoin uses the betcoin.ag domain, while Playbetr got redirected to new.betcoin.ag. Even if you try to access playbetr.com noew, it will redirect you to the new Betcoin domain.  

Most popular sportsbooks have their own variant of cashback for losses suffered in a given period. Usually for the week that has passed. Some even have cashback and count all money wagered, not just the losing bets. But I don't know which ones do that.

What do you mean with 2 lines, what does that mean? How many bet boosts per sport and per day are we talking about?

I think it should still be counted regardless of how many matches you can apply the boosts for. But yes, you are right regarding the limitations. Sportsbet considers its price boosts as promotions/bonuses. You can only use one bet boost per sport in a 24-hour period. Maybe this changes depending on the Clubhouse level you are at. LFC_Bitcoin can correct me if I am wrong.

Again, you're wrong.

The same can be said about Sportsbet.


This is not an "attack” Peeps, it's showing transparency dude.

It got me thinking, so I am going to find three major sports events and only compare the odds of Nitrobetting versus Sportsbet to see who offers more.

Here we go:

1. France vs Ireland, football - odds for 1, X, 2
Sportsbet - 1.21, 6.40, 14. With price boosts 1.22, 6.78, 14.91
Nitrobetting - 1.22, 5.40, 12

2. Shelton vs Djokovic, tennis
Sportsbet - 9.60, 1.04. With price boosts 10.20, 1.04
Nitrobetting - 9.75, 1.07

3. USA - Germany, basketball - odds for 1 and 2
Sportsbet - 1.16, 5.50. With price boosts 1.17, 5.82
Nitrobetting - 1.17, 4.88

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I didn't take any screenshots, so you are just going to have to take my word for it. In all three examples, Sportsbet has slightly lower odds on the favorites. With price boosts, the odds increased to those of Nitrobetting, except for Djokovic were they remained at 1.04 even with a price boost for some reason.

If you are betting on the underdogs, you will get more favorable odds on Sportsbet, particularly if using a bet boost. But the bets on favorites are slightly lower in normal mode. They became the same in 2/3 cases with a booster.  

Hmmmm, you really need to learn to read the room.
I'd be totally shocked if anyone wasted their time posting plays in this thread to be honest.

You are very wrong.
Maybe your new "search" should include checking "all markets" and not just American Football which fits your narrative dude.

Thanks for FINALLY admitting to your total bias and lack of due diligence.

I always try to be unique at least, good or bad


So is it true only freebitco does this kind of betting, I would have guessed many places.   I know it'd be related to population size of bettors to properly balance itself out, Ive bet this system on tiny sites and the odds become massively erratic at times.


Point there would be user interface, mobiles need to improve massively still but today they are worlds greatest advancement of computers to the common people.   This is probably true of many products, making it available, easily utilized by the average person is maybe the most important point to success. 
   I dont especially like Apple products but I had to respect they are greatly liked by people who otherwise would not intricately  use computers especially.  Maybe the same point applies to gambling sites, I want to place a bet in a minute without getting lost in various menus and options; it always seems I would be placing the bet vs time as a factor.

That's exactly the point I was making earlier. That's because they weren't picked based on a quality criteria. The manager chose many members who would never be accepted in other campaigns with stricter quality control. The result is nonsense for the most part. There are exceptions, of course.

Yeah, they are only there because it's a requirement of their campaign to post in the gambling boards. I am sure that many don't even follow sports at all or the matched they are talking about because their posts show information you can find on any live score app and nothing more.

Real gamblers probably hang around in various prediction pools where you have to pay to gain access. That's where you will find genuine discussions about markets, odds, matched they bet on, etc.

I guess now we know why Stake and others pay for quantity, it works and gives the impression desired.

I'm not sure how anyone who pays attention to the actual gambling activity on the forum could miss out on how bad some Stake posters are at posting quality, constructive content that actually contributes to gambling.

I run several self-moderated threads. I'm active in many gambling threads. I also run my own thread publishing best odds on value longshots -- this is 5 seasons running, and the best lines are shown, lately, it's only been Sportsbet where I place bets. Granted, it's a niche market (long odds with price boost) but I have featured many books over the years and slowly, taken them off owing to closure (like Bitcoinrush), bad support, or bad lines (nitro was an early casualty years ago due to this).

On self-mod threads, I delete a lot of spam and they come from Stake a lot. I get the impression most of them aren't even gamblers and wouldn't know the first thing about advising on a book/casino. I use Stake don't get me wrong (MMA best odds and decent house games), but I bet on sports almost daily and I get the best odds elsewhere (generally at Sportsbet because of price boost which blows everyone out of the water) on my niche market.

But let's ignore content quality and inspect gambling content. Look around the forum and you'll find casino and sports gamblers who actually gamble (provably, either through screenshots or betslip sharing) generally come from a handful of sites. Look at Gambling discussion (not ANNs), scan through betslips and screenshots. Cross reference with quality content. Look at where their money is.

My impression is, actual gamblers put their wallet where their mouth is -- you know which sites they rate, by correlation of where most of their bets are placed. Don't look at signatures and empty posts promoting their sites.

And for the majority of users who post, you'll find they actually don't gamble. Just there to spam.

Ratings are... arbitrary. And I say this with reference to my own thread that in effect rates books by the value they offer me in my specific type of gambling. I could rate phones and any idiot could do the same but in the end, if the world majority buys an iPhone despite its many flaws (according to me), that's the "best" phone there is out there because that's where people vote with their money. My thoughts, anyway.

There's also the survivor pool posted on Stake's forum.

Stake's 2023 NFL Survivor Pool (free entry with $50k prize pool)

I was hoping we'd have more NFL pools this season because some of the bookies started offering EPL fantasy pools when the season started last month, but I guess there's still not enough love for the NFL. 

You sure about that?

Sportsbet 8.7
https://casino.guru/sportsbet-io-casino-review

Nitrobetting 6.5
https://casino.guru/nitrobetting-casino-review

CasinoGuru is more legit than all those "guides" you've mentioned combined.
It is no wonder no one takes your ratings seriously.

I created a discussion about it in Meta, here > Non clickable link in original post but clickable when quoted.
Faisal2202 rightly noticed that you placed two empty spaces between the text, Licences by Mahdirakib and the link. If you go back and edit the post and remove one empty space, the link should turn into a hyperlink without the need to add the hyperlink code like you did in post #1. If you are interested, you can follow the rest of the discussions in Meta because it's off-topic here.

What did you do to fix it? The link in your post on page 204 for Mahdirakib's thread is still not clickable. It's a weird issue and I can't remember having come across it earlier; maybe I have but didn't pay attention to it.
I will write about it in Meta. Maybe someone knows what's the reason for it.  

I'm wondering what is the issue here. It works as a link when we put it in the quote. But it doesn't work as a link when the post is made.

Yep, we shouldn't judge a casino by the post quality of the signature participants. Stake main goal is to get more visibility in the forum. They are already very popular in the crypto gambling world with a lot of players. BTW, Stake has also hired some reputable forum members (maybe privately) to wear their signature.

Yeah, that's a problem you can see with low-quality members irrespective of which campaign they participate in if there is no proper quality control. As you know, Stake has a big budget for advertising, and it seems like visibility has priority over quality. Despite that, the quality (or lack of it) of a signature campaign can't be used to assess the quality of said casino. Not many people that I know have had issues with Stake.   

I wouldn't pay that much attention to advertisement and signature campaigns when determining the quality of a casino or a sportsbook. Besides, I don't like the way Stake and their people run the signature campaign on Bitcointalk. Anyone who spends a lot of time on this forum and knows its most quality members will realize that none of them are in Stake's campaign. A more professional campaign manager would have enabled better weekly pay rates and attention to quality and not quantity of posts like it is now.