My sensation about the disapponted people in this forum is that none of them was here long term, they hoped in the post-announcement pump and were hoping to dump their coins very high. They call it a pump and dump coin because THEY wanted to dump it on someone else but someone did it before them on them.  The fact is that despite of the news of the announcement not being really mind boggling, the news are truly good, things are moving in the right direction for this coin after years of very little happening. Long term, future looks bright for EMC2, but short-term wannabe-dumpers cannot wait more than days or weeks when they buy a coin. To all the fudders: I don't see those of us here since '14 calling it PnD. If you don't know what it's all about and, you don't understand what an algorithm change and master nodes can bring to this project then how about you just read for a while and keep your uneducated mouth shut. If you invested recently, you certainly have a right to speak up. If not, go bother some other project. |
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I was just reading old post from the forum at ripple. 9 months ago the were murdering that coin and every single possible conspiracy theory was there. Now many of those subjects are here telling us to flip to rupple. If there is one thing that clears the view is time
That happens with every high potential and popular project, sadly it is part of Crypto. Bitcointalk is absolutely full of FUD, most dev's don't even check in here. It is great that with XVG, the dev is often active and responding to us. Pretty rare these days. Just check out the Scam Accusations child board and you will find every project, exchange and anything to do with Cryptocurrency in there lol. These people may as well just call Crypto a scam and be done with it  Ah yes. The good ol' Scam Accusations. While some of them are real, most of them are complete garbage. Money makes people happy. But complainers will always complain no matter up. The devs need to do something to minimize FUD in this thread. How about self-moderated forum like most successful coin's forum? FUD is killing Verge and the devs are watching helplessly. Sad very sad. Every forum here is the same. Considering XVG was trading at 0.00000048 beginning of December and is now at 0.00001095 I would say nothing is killing XVG, quite the opposite... |
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What's that funny language you're talking in? I don't understand a single word...
That makes at least two of us... |
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Cloak price should be now 100$ but very low price
CLOAK is around $30.00 USD, that is a "very low price", really? Do you have like 10 CLOAK you're hoping to make a million dollars with? You have complained about every price change up or down since you created your account. What, exactly, is wrong with you? If you haven't made a profit from CLOAK by now, you never will. If it's $100.00 USD your looking for than just wait, it will come. |
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Hey CloakCoinScam, where are you now buddy? Any more predictions for us now haha
He's gone, bought all he could on the drops.... |
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...be careful and listen to your peers.
I think that part of your post is worth singling out. So many people miss it, but the cryptocurrency industry is primarily one of networking. If all you see is the price of Bitcoin you miss out. If all you focus on is the technology, you miss out. It's about the people who develop the technology and whose accomplishments impact the price of digital currencies, and about the relationships you make and what you learn from each of the people you connect with. I look at fundamentals in choosing whether or not to invest in a coin, but at the end of the day, every coin I hold, I probably bought it or earned it because of a relationship I developed with someone who was either involved in developing it or really liked it or someone I met in the process of checking out the fundamentals. Great points, Wiser. It's also important for the digital currency to have a purpose that supporters can relate to and believe in. That is what will set DNotes apart from others. Merry Christmas! Alan, Thanks for the invitation! I'll be out that way in May, perhaps a side trip is in order. I'll check in with you later on that. In the mean time, Merry Christmas to you, Joe, and the whole Dnotes & Smokey's team! Bob |
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So, anyone have thoughts on the recent market crash? Are Futures Contracts causing instability? Market manipulation? Seems rather odd how quickly it happened and, how deeply. Also odd how one commercial trader predicted it almost exactly...
There is a lot of politics in the background of course, but honestly a crash was imminent anyway. Bitcoin is a constantly uptrending roller coaster. And a roller coaster sometimes goes a little down to then go up even faster. Bitcoin will recover regardless of Roger Ver and the crap he is talking all day. I'm going to have to disagree with your roller-coaster metaphor dzonikg28, but stand with you on your intended points. In fact, I'm going to go a step further. Roger Ver is talking about the weaknesses of bitcoin and this seems to be hurting its value. The more the large holders and miners see value being hurt by disfunctionality in bitcoin, the more they are likely to support genuine improvements to its code. And the more the code behind bitcoin improves, and the more useful bitcoin is, the higher its true value can climb. As for futures contracts and commercial traders manipulating the price, I think it is unlikely. I have no doubt that given the skill and opportunity, they would certainly do it. And I imagine that the current low is a great time for them to buy a reserve to sell futures against. I just don't think they've got what it takes to pull it off. But that doesn't mean there hasn't been an incidental effect. It is hard for the whales to cash-out a significant amount without impacting the price. But selling a chunk to futures traders is a good opportunity and it is possible that taking advantage of that has hit the price a little. This article from a couple of days ago talks about the concept: https://www.bloomberg.com/view/articles/2017-12-21/bitcoin-billionaires-may-have-found-a-way-to-cash-outBut I'm most comfortable putting it down to the range of complex influences that have caused previous dips in prices. Some of it might be algorithmic trading. Maybe after watching it climb fast, unreasonable expectations have made the slight slowdown seem worrisome. Possibly the fact that bitcoin has attracted many inexperienced investors to try their hand means the market is more emotional and reactive than more standard types of investments. Maybe the weather has more to do with the price of bitcoin than its functionality does. How about Christmas putting a pinch on budgets causing investors to cash in despite a drop in price? If the Christmas budget theory is correct, maybe we can expect a leap in price as people invest their cash presents where they'd never risk money earned through hard work. So the only thing I know for sure is that Jamie Dimon is green with jealousy that the market ignored him, but reacts when Roger Ver goes public. But you've got to be enjoying the media circus that spends a month calling bitcoin a bubble, and then when the price dips, writes pages speculating about what strange thing could have interrupted such a strong climb. It bugs me that people are quick to blame Roger Ver's public statements (or anyone else's) for Bitcoin's major price correction, which it was due for anyway. I agree that the way he went about it wasn't exactly professional. That said, Bitcoin really does have some serious flaws. Someone famous or not famous should be able to speak honestly about those flaws without being called a traitor to the cause. Ultimately, Bitcoin will need to address its weaknesses and adapt or it will over time work its way into obsolescence. Regardless of what Jamie Dimon and Roger Ver say or don't say, 17+ minute block confirm times, $20 transaction fees, and lack of scalability are simply not going to work. So you either address these issues right in the code, or you look for a good opportunity to sell any holdings or use them to buy other coins with better technology. Although I go through Bitcoin to make my trades like everyone else, it's been several years since I've had any significant BTC holdings. Recognizing its inherent problems has been part of the reason. Roger has his reasons for sure but your right, no one statement from any of the current crop of talking heads can cause such a major correction. There are unseen forces at work as in any public market that are amplified in ours due to it's unregulated nature. Personally, I don't think that is all so bad but, in a business sense, it is a problem. You need to make decisions based on intelligence and projections you can count on. If you base those decisions on the current market, you will, sooner than later, take a major hit. Solutions? Well, if you're a business owner, change the way you make projections and allocate resources for the future. Learn, listen, watch, use the abundance of information at your fingertips to help you make those decisions. Stay flexible, maintain healthy reserves and don't fly by "the seat of your pants", be careful and listen to your peers. This is the new reality, the old ways are due to fade away along with their stability and, lack of creativity. In the new paradigm, if it didn't work yesterday, chances are it will tomorrow and that brings up the elephant in the room, accepting change as a good thing and making the most of it. Those who can do that will not only survive but thrive. Embrace new ideas and technology or perish. But above all else, don't be afraid to try a new way of doing things, it just might work better than you expect. |
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It is very demanding and costly to build a top notch exchange. We are committed to build our own and do it right. It will cost $ millions and may take a little longer. But that is a vital component of our fully integrated system. If I have my way, we will have the best customer services - something annoying lacking in our industry.
I think you may be right about a top notch exchange costing millions of dollars to set up. If anyone can do it, DNotes Global can. Good customer service is an absolute necessity, but tough to keep up with when you're growing rapidly. I think you have to over-hire tech support reps and consider it good when at times some of them are standing around doing nothing. Congratulations on the Geneca partnership! And Merry Christmas to you and yours! Tech support is the life blood of any company dealing with the public. As Alan knows, I founded two tech companies, one a networking contractor and PC sales and the other a national Internet provider with several education focused physical locations. My partners and I saw eye to eye on most things except the value of tech support. They were focused mainly on the technology, which is of course important but, not if customers can't use it. I remember us going round and round at board meetings about where to concentrate growth after new customer acquisition. Mostly we ended up spending on techs, engineers and hardware and what ever was left over was allocated to support staff. In the the end, this is what finally killed us along with the advent of cable Internet. I can't help thinking what things might have been if we had less engineers and more marketing people who understood the customer relationship and the need for a live voice at the other end of the phone. Never forget the human touch, it's what separates the winners from the rest of the pack. As for DNotes, I'm sure you will do fine. The various talents that currently make up the "team" compliment each other nicely. If you can, at worst, agree to disagree, then you have a head start. PS: Wasn't all bad, we sold one for a nice profit and the other was a wash. |
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So, anyone have thoughts on the recent market crash? Are Futures Contracts causing instability? Market manipulation? Seems rather odd how quickly it happened and, how deeply. Also odd how one commercial trader predicted it almost exactly...
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Hey this coin is good as dead right now, so I think that there is a lot of selling on my end now, sorry but i dont believe in this coin anymore. Just trash right now.
LOL, far from dead... ups and downs Agreed! Ah yes, the expected influx of clueless newbies, haters and Trolls has arrived. Time to wear out the old "ignore" button.... |
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NYC supporters speaking with owners of numerous high-traffic markets in New York City TO START ACCEPTING NewYorkCoin!!!
stay tuned...
Please stop "yelling" with all that extra large text, it's hard on the eyes and actually against the rules on BCT. Normal sized text is fine, trust me, it will still get your point across. Thanks! |
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come on cloak now your turn all privacy coin price on high 1500$ 600$ 500$ 400$ 300$ like this and cloak 15$ its cloak insult and i do not like this insult
$15.00 is very nice, glad to see it. But, I agree, it would be nice to be up there with the big boys. Patience tradercouch, patience... |
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do you think verge could never hit 1000 satoshy?
The fact that you asked this question suggests that you are either an innocent or an idiot. i would say innocent, i am not so good to look at long term price predictions Thank God! I see Verge hitting 5,000 satoshis by end of January the latest. If everyone would stop selling every time we get a little bump, I think Verge would have a market cap similar to Monero or higher. I wish that we would take advantage of all the good press and let Verge surge with out selling off for a little profit and driving the price back down. And for those, jumping in an out trying to make intermittent gains, be careful because, you might not be able to get back in at a lower price, once you sold for minimal gain. That's what happened to me with Komodo. I got out with $6,000 and missed out on $60,000 usd. "Newbie Nerves" All the inexperienced traders flooding the market are buying anything that even looks like it might survive let alone appreciate. First sign of a drop and they get scared and sell out. The only way to make money here is to "grow a pair" and wait out the drops, the price usually comes back stronger after them anyway. "Hold" is the word of the day here, not "run" |
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Hey Cloak Community,
I'm glad to post a quick update about the current status and proud to tell you that everything is going according to plan.
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We will get interesting moments in the upcoming days!
Have a nice week!
Cheers!
lasvegas83
Outstanding! You guys are right on it, thanks for all your hard work and devotion! |
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my precious...........  There can be only one... |
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Wow what a huge Pump !! I'm glad that I was holding all my coins during all that time. But now I really don't know if it is a good moment to selll and buy cheaper late or if it's better to still hold :/
What was the announcement which made the price this high ?
PRice is not even $0.25 wait a while at least make thousands of USD before selling. The most awaited app that is to be released this year end should make the price go up. We haven't heard of it from the team though, are they really releasing it this month? Where can I get DENT? What exchanges? |
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DigiByte is the next coin to explode. It will go to one billion market cap until the end of the year. People already know and trust,
we only need more buyers and they will start to come. It is fast, it is Minable, it is old and reliable.
Well, not sure if it will go to a billion by the end of the year, but it seems to be going up now. Just hope to avoid an over reaction. Steady growth is better. If it takes 2 years to reach 1 dollar, that is just fine with me. Been holding since 2014 anyway. DGB is extremely undervalued, it won't be a surprise if it reaches $1 next year. Well if it reaches $1 it will be the 7th biggest cryptocurrency right now... I'm not sure if that is realistic. Ah well, IOTA and Ripple are even higher so why not!?! That is going by today's levels of course. There's no telling what highs BTC and others might get to next year so what is 7th this year might only be 70th in 2018. After all, look what happened in 2017 ^^ Just like a lot of other ALTs, when some segment of the market discovers DigiByte, and makes it their own, the coin will take off. Happening all the time now with new sections of the world finding crypto and adopting their favorite coin, just a matter of time... |
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Apologies in advance, and, I hate to bring it up again but, any idea what is going on with DNotespool? Been days now without a payout, lots of errors, etc. I have a LOT of DNotes trapped there at the moment, just a bit concerned. I moved my hash elsewhere until it gets sorted but would like to know where this is going... Thx
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Interesting fact: Mileva Maric-Einstein (Einstein's first wife) was born on 19. December. Maybe it's a hint, don't know.  There was some debate whether or not Mileva collaborated with Einstein on some of his most important work. Is it a hint? I don't know but my personal take on Dec. 19th is that they will announce a collaboration with some other organization. NASA, SpaceX, some other scientific or corporate organization? Who knows it's all speculation right now but if it isn't as mind blowing as it's been made out to be then EMC will certainly see a huge correction. Regardless I still believe in the project long term... Yes. Maybe this article also gives a hint about NASA partnership https://futurism.com/elon-musk-is-not-smiling-over-trumps-19-5-nasa-budget/With all due respect, the aforementioned article doesn't contain any references to cryptocurrencies or blockchain. How is this less speculative than pulling out any of the top 10 results from a Google search on "science and engineering"? Posts like this undermine the credibility of the coin and strongly suggest scam! And this is coming from a person who was genuinely intrigued about the "intended" ambitions and goals (as scarcely represented online) of this project. Scam? LOL, go back and read the last three years of history in this forum before you start making yourself look the fool. |
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Just noticed today that Craiglist.com now has a button you can check that says “cryptocurrency ok”. It brings up all the stuff listed where the sellers will accept cryptocurrency for. It was interesting to me that the box said “cryptocurrency”, instead of “Bitcoin”, or even “bitcoin”. What also interested me was the number of items that the sellers would accept Bitcoin. Was a lot! I think that sometimes, when we are immersed in our industry, we tend to not recognize how the public perceives this industry, and we sometimes miss, or underestimate the impact cryptocurrency is making. I, for one, continue to be amazed at how much John Q. Public really does know about Bitcoin, in particular. It seems to be catching on quicker that I imagined.
Smokey
I think more and more people are getting interested in cryptocurrencies every day. I'm starting to have friends and neighbors and even family members asking me questions about it. Selling stuff you no longer need on Craig's List would be a great way to get into Bitcoin. Far better than mortgaging your house. Judging from all the news and mentions of crypto in all the places we have never seen it before, I would say the industry has or, is very close to reaching critical mass. You can't turn around without seeing an article about bitcoin in the main stream media nor can you be around any of you "none crypto" friends without one or more asking how to get in the markets or, my favorite: "Just what is this bitch coin thing anyway?" Not everyone has style... The new year should be quite a ride in what I fully see being the 'up" elevator. I really don't think it can be stopped at this point. Throttled, messed with, banned, outlawed or adopted and, of course, taxed but not stopped. Hang on, here we go like it or not! |
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