That's gonna be interesting.  The penalty for fraud while on probation is much more serious than if you're not.  I hope then that I'll get my rigs by the 15th.  Unlikely but one can hope.  Lets see if feb jalapeños fly as quickly as jan. I'm guessing no, but I hope I'm wrong.

Yeah it is all risk management.  Also nobody should believe a surge protector (any surge protector) can withstand a direct lightning strike.   Ohms law and all that.  Surge protectors work by creating a parallel circuit to shunt most of the over current to the ground.  We use the term "ground" but there is a non-zero resistance on the ground circuit.  With circuits in parallel with differing resistance current through each circuit is inversely proportional to the relative resistance of the circuit.  So the circuit to ground has very low resistance relative to the circuit through your miner and thus most of the current flows there.  The key word is most.  A lightning strike can contain 100,000A.  If your surge protector shunts away 99.9% of the current, it means 100A still flows through the PUS.  That is a more than enough to destroy the PSU.  Now PSU has a fuse which will melt due to excessive current but no fuse is instantaneous and for a large number of milliseconds the connected equipment is going to be vulnerable.

Buy a surge protector but it is not a magic bullet.   

I have a vested interest in KNC being successful, so I decided it was best to Beat back the Naysayers with honest answers.  

a) "Unknown" is rapidly growing (almost 25% at the moment).
b) https://ghash.io/ is rapidly growing.

1 + 1 = ? 

Do you not believe everyone you buy something from over the internet?
Do you usually have to do hours of research just to see if the company you are going to buy from are fraudulent or not?
I have purchased hundreds of products from the internet - this is the first time someone has just blatantly not delivered and does not even seem to even have the courtesy to be even slightly concerned about it.
I fail to see why it is so hard to give me a straight answer - why is it taking so long? I have read page after page of threads about BFL and still cannot really figure out why orders are not being shipped faster than what seems like one technician hand making each unit one at a time. If I did this to my customers my business would be gone and I would feel totally ashamed.
Should I just wait for a another month, 6 months, year?? Seems like none of you has the balls to stand up to BFL - you are happy to just wait indefinitely. I'm vexed.

Remove the post and all is well. Since Josh will not remove it.

Final warning
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The next time you imply that I am a pedophile, I will be filing suit against you for Libel. I have collected all pertinent information of your malicious attacks and have contacted your ISP provider to release your Name as I already have a host of information already including your address. This might be some childish way for you to pass time but making accusations of this nature does not pass muster with me.

Regards.
 

hp10 didn't improve that much; the metric is wrong. We're getting pretty much the same results with hp9 than hp10. Others have confirmed this.

There were 97 Avalon chip batches of 10,000 chips each that was posted in a spreadsheet. That is roughly 300TH. The official story is:
While we have send out some chip orders, there is currently ~200k chips stuck in custom right at this moment for about 2 weeks now, this matter is very painful for us and our customers.
That is only 22% of their chip orderbook. They were still shipping out chip orders as of 8/19. Orders destined for addresses inside China would not require customs, so those chips have had 1.5 months to get onto boards and into the hash rate.

Simple solution. Don't post in the thread titled "BF Labs Inc. WILL process ALL backlogs by September 30, 2013!" where this whole conversation got started. If you only want to talk about orders before April 5th...

New orders would not change the fact that they cleared their backlog, it would just create a second backlog. If at any time they shipped all outstanding orders, the backlog is cleared. Plus they would ship your order Sept. 30 if they had cleared their backlog. They would actually have inventory of assembled units. They could have same day turnaround just as real companies such as Newegg.com. 

A TEU is just a unit of shipping. Also, if you have 300 boxes, you need to put them on pallets otherwise they would roll around inside the truck and they couldn't efficiently move them around. The point is, they would need a large truck instead of the normal little USPS trucks you see arriving in the pics. Maybe they only took pictures on small shipping days. However, they were bragging about how big the piles were. Also, the guy who posted the pics left the company and there haven't been any pictures posted since.

Not my fault BFL uses USPS. Jalapenos are the smallest boxes. Obviously, 300 singles would take up more space and require even more space in trucks.

My point was to use how fast BFL claims they can ship to demonstrate we can estimate the size of their backlog.

I have acknowledged everything almost you have posted (some of the more vapid stuff I just reply with a PSA).
It seems that you are just here to derail threads for your lord and master Inaba. Exhibit A, you didn't even post this response in the thread it belongs in:
BF Labs Inc. WILL process ALL backlogs by September 30, 2013!
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=268055.0

Did you get lost? Derailing so many threads you can't keep track anymore?

Oh look, you are spreading lies again. Quoted for posterity.
There were 97 Avalon chip batches of 10,000 chips each that was posted in a spreadsheet. That is roughly 300TH. The official story is:
While we have send out some chip orders, there is currently ~200k chips stuck in custom right at this moment for about 2 weeks now, this matter is very painful for us and our customers.
That is only 22% of their chip orderbook. They were still shipping out chip orders as of 8/19. Orders destined for addresses inside China would not require customs, so those chips have had 1.5 months to get onto boards and into the hash rate.

...and with that lengthy nonsensical rant I can add another obvious bfl sockpuppet account to ignore. These guys have more socks than a JC Penny white sale.

But the second he was able to misconstrue the same request I'm on record in making for the past 9-10 months, he offers up a Nexus 7.

THIS BOY AIN'T RIGHT!

So you are arguing just to argue?  What a waste. 

The rest of us are here to warn unsuspecting noobs that BFL is a long con scam run by a convicted mail fraud felon who is far more interested in generating short term cash flow than delivering product to the people who pre ordered and never received them.

People like to check back to see if predictions and speculations held true.

Fine.

There is no single example that I can find of a Venture Capital firm attempting to keep their investment portfolio secret due to the reporting requirements forced upon them by their limited partnerships and the federal government. If BFL got anything at all, it was not from a registered VC firm.

Butterfly Labs would have added a director to their board upon investment from a VC firm which would involve a filing where they were incorporated.

Do you suck Josh off with that mouth?  Are you his lover?  (only a lover could continue to defend him as you have).

bcp19: I just noticed, that you tried to talk to me. Don't bother next time. You are on my ignore list.

Should I ever feel an urge to engage in endless demented discussion, I'll contact you first.

Ok, you finally answered the questions. See how easy that was, now we can discuss your answers. Next time, don't give 47 posts of evading the questions and you won't get a broken record.

The backlog includes every order up to the current minute.
backlog: 1. an accumulation of something, esp. uncompleted work or matters that need to be dealt with.
BFL said they could clear the backlog so they could then ship units to order.
If you want to change the rules, just change it so pre-orders were only orders before October 12th 2012. That way you are more certain to win.

It looks like you are saying you really have no idea how many orders BFL has. Good, we can stop talking about that purile nonsense of 70,000 orders of BFL backlog.

The closer we get to Sept 30th, the more we know about the size of BFL's backlog. BFL's cap on production per day is 300 units (if you believe them). There are 26 work days between now and Sept 30th. That says they can ship a maximum of 7800 devices between now and then. Using the 1.5 devices per order average from http://bfl.ptz.ro/ that says on average at their highest production rate for 26 days the ceiling on filled orders is 5200. They could work weekends too. That would add another 2400 devices which would increase their fulfillment to 6800 orders. That is pretty much the ceiling of what they can accomplish.

Reality is going to be a good deal lower than 300 units a day. There is no evidence that they have ever done 300 units a day. In fact when we have seen pictures of  stacks of BFL boxes going into USPS trucks, there has never been more than 60 boxes. Also, the size of the USPS trucks (also visible in the pics) that show up couldn't fit more than 60 boxes inside. You would need a 1 TEU container to hold 300 boxes, so those should have been showing up daily. Each USPS box has roughly 1.5 to 2 cubic feet of space in it. 1 standard TEU has 1,360 cubic feet in it. So they would need 300 to 450 cubic feet and they would need to be on shipping pallets (so they don't jumble around and break). That would probably fit in 1 TEU, but definitely not in the small size trucks.

Even if I give them the benefit of the doubt and say that BFL could ship 150 units a day for the next 34 days straight, that means they will fill roughly 3400 orders. If that makes up 80% of their order book (20% already shipped). Then there were roughly 4200 orders total to begin with (8400 if we use the less likely 300 units a day). That is the ballbark we are dealing with if BFL can actually ship their backlog by Sept 30th.

Of course, if they weasel out of that and there are still thousands of orders in a backlog after Sept 30, I won't be surprised.

Not if Josh doesn't stop playing around the forums with trolls. Doesn't he have shit to do like get product from the loading dock to a paying customer that cut the order line or something?