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621  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Technical Support / Re: People running older versions of Core - Why? on: October 18, 2023, 06:44:38 PM
A lot of people use older or custom implementations of Core because they’ve built other systems on top of that and they don’t want to spend the rest of their lives digging through code to keep everything working each time core has a new updates. When it comes to keeping software functioning, updates can be the bane of your existence.

Yes, with a couple of buts....

I agree new versions of software can cause issues in applications that are talking to it and sometimes updates can cause other issues in terms of general stability.

Here come the BUTS, not necessarily related to the original links I posted but in general.

1) We are talking about money, if you are writing something that may have other peoples funds you should not be running it on software that is no longer actively maintained. If it's something that is only going to have your funds, do whatever you want. But, the second you are responsible for other peoples money you should be at least somewhat up to date.

2) When you do have issues, or strange behavior, trying to sort out is it an issue, or just something that was fixed in a version that was released a few years ago can be a PITA to figure out.

3) Sooner or later, a change may be made that will cause your node not to talk properly to never versions of Core and then you have to rush to fix it.

4) Other???

Creating something and leaving it running is one thing. But, with the user trying to create the taproot transaction on an older version of core? If they do get it working and then they have to update and an issue comes up, it's just going to be that more annoying.

-Dave
622  Bitcoin / Hardware wallets / Re: Square is considering making a hardware wallet for Bitcoin on: October 18, 2023, 03:35:05 PM
we need more alternatives and more decentralization!
Really?!
How much new hardware wallets do we really need, because we already have around 100 different models I think  Tongue
Bitkey wallet has nothing to do with decentralization, on contrary, and I can't look positive on every new crap that comes out in market, that is not normal behavior.

However, there is the small chance that either

1) They will not have the sales numbers they want and go back and for rev #2 make it with a screen and make it more private and.... Yeah, probably not going to happen.

And / or

2) Someone who knows how to make a good hardware wallet will take a look at this and go, yeah it's silly, but lets make one that does not look like a wallet but rather an oddball piece of art or whatever. Because if a quality known opensource wallet maker made something that looked like that I would think it would sell.

-Dave
623  Economy / Collectibles / Re: {Question} - Coins collection software on: October 18, 2023, 02:11:37 PM
I would look into software that was designed in general for collectors, be it stamps, non crypto coins, things like that.
At a guess most of them could be adapted to work with crypto, or at least give you something that should be better then excel.

The downside, is going to be that you are now exposing what you have. So if someone does not know the true value of your crypto collectable collection. If they see what you have in the app, they will know....

-Dave
624  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: What does the OP_RETURN signify in this transaction? on: October 18, 2023, 02:01:11 PM
That transaction is the Tx0 for a Whirlpool coinjoin. The whirlpool coinjoin server uses the OP_RETURN output to keep track of eligible coinjoin UTXOs, fees paid, and so on. There is no human readable component to these OP_RETURN outputs.

Minor quibble. But it IS human readable I can read it. It just has no human discernible data.

I deal with this from some database people all the time, I have to keep telling then that the DB admin can read EVERYTHING, so make sure any private data is encrypted BEFORE it hits the database.
Or, only be decoded in a way that the people with DB admin access do not have a way to get to.

-Dave
625  Other / Off-topic / Re: Why Ubuntu? on: October 15, 2023, 03:41:56 PM
There is a recent ongoing discussion here: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5468600

Ubuntu seems to have the popularity so a bit more support from other users and such, but a lot really does come down to what works for you.

-Dave
626  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Technical Support / Re: People running older versions of Core - Why? on: October 15, 2023, 02:23:28 PM
It's not a difficult thing to update.
It kind of is difficult. It is not as easy as updating your browser for example where it either updates in the background without the user noticing or you just click a button. You have to actually go to the core website, download the binaries then verify the signatures before you install the new version. All these extra steps makes people postpone such updates specially since they are not facing any difficulties with their usage.

Additionally core does not give the user any indication of the new versions being available inside the software itself, so it is understandable that people don't pay attention to it either.

It is like this for all software that users use. This is why there are all these pop-ups everywhere, like your phone keeps reminding you to update your apps or the OS itself, or your desktop having all these Windows/Linux update reminders, and almost all applications on your desktop have some "check for update" option hidden somewhere inside them.
Long story short, most people will never upgrade anything unless they are either reminded or they face an issue.

I know that, BUT and this is the reason I chose the 2 links, BOTH of those users had the old version pointed out to them and they did not acknowledge it at all.
Granted one has been only about 24 hours since the comment.

But, if you read the posts they are not casual users, they are people working with core and seem to know what they are doing and trying to figure out an issue or why it's behaving the way it is.

Could just be me, but the 1st thing I do when that happens is look to see if there are newer versions of the software. Not just in the crypto world but in any sort of computer issue.

-Dave
627  Economy / Reputation / Re: Murat Scammed 62k Metropoly token on: October 15, 2023, 02:00:58 PM
Hold them till fees drop (could be weeks / months)
Go out of pocket (might be well more then you charged them to run the campaign)
Ask for donations from the people who participated (and watch the screaming / scam complaints come flying in)
Send them with the fee that was agreed and hope for the best (and deal with those issues)
Other?Huh

Even if you go with a low cost chain, in the weeks & months between the start and end of the campaign and the distribution, who knows what can happen.

I wonder how many such tokens/projects and bounty campaigns are needed to make hunters think about participating in them. For a long time, all such campaigns have been worthless or at best a miserable value, but I still see that all campaigns are crowded with hunters.
Spending time on something that maybe, a big maybe, someday, in a year or two, will have value, in my opinion, is crazy. If we add to that, only a few projects (out of tens of thousands) have survived for more than two years, the matter seems even worse.

Drifting OT here but:

1) This is how you wind up with the spam farms and multi accouters, individually the tokens might not be worth much but if you get a large enough percentage of those tokens it can be a couple of hundred USD. Which in some poor countries can be a lot of money.

2) Out and out bot scamming. If you write or buy a program that tweets / re-posts / and does whatever else then it's a couple of hours work per campaign and you might get lucky. Think of it as sales, how many people do salespeople in some industries have to talk to before they make a sale and get paid?

3) Greed & not knowing better.

4) Sometimes you just don't care. As of now I'm in a signature campaign that pays well. If it all goes to crap and there are no more good ones, I might just sign up for whatever looks neat at the moment. If I get paid, great....if not great...I am here an posting anyway. Might as well get paid for it. Compared to what other places / boards pay or at least used to pay for posting here even in the best campaigns this is fairly low. The good posters on the motorcycle forums used to get $5 post + 3% of the sale if someone clicked and bought through their affiliate link and that was 15+ (ack I'm old) years ago.

-Dave
628  Economy / Reputation / Re: Murat Scammed 62k Metropoly token on: October 15, 2023, 01:34:24 PM
This occurred to me, I think the only possibility him not paying to hunters he didn’t get transaction fees from client to distribute tokens. Usually in bounty campaign total addresses to distribute exceeds 10k if we include airdrop campaign too. It means client has to pay more than 10k usd in transaction fees to distribute tokens
So everyone faced this? That was a great lesson for me. Not going to escrow rewards without tx fee lol.

The problem will be the fees today may not be the fees when you distribute.
You do some math and come up with 2ETH as a max total.
Fees spike....what do you do?:

Hold them till fees drop (could be weeks / months)
Go out of pocket (might be well more then you charged them to run the campaign)
Ask for donations from the people who participated (and watch the screaming / scam complaints come flying in)
Send them with the fee that was agreed and hope for the best (and deal with those issues)
Other?Huh

Even if you go with a low cost chain, in the weeks & months between the start and end of the campaign and the distribution, who knows what can happen.

-Dave
629  Bitcoin / Development & Technical Discussion / Re: [List] VanityGen Wallet Generation - threads, how to & links on: October 15, 2023, 01:17:23 PM
And for the OCD among us, or at least those who have the great idea that I will get organized *soon* it allows us to categorize some things.
i.e. bc1qCarStuff...... or bc1qH0tSauce.... or bc1qC0llect and so on.

So this way looking back later I would be able to figure out what was what without searching though a bunch of random addresses.
Have not really been doing it, but there was that plan....
Why not use labels in your wallet for this? By using vanity addresses as labels, you're basically making your labels public. It's bad for privacy.

When I am posting an address here for payment, or on another forum the loss of privacy by having it public is just about 0 if someone is looking.
Having a QR code on the table at the car show swap meet probably is worse.

For example, let's say that your regular address is 1LoyceVg9r*******
You made me curious how many of the 1,219,157,164 used Bitcoin addresses contain "LoyceV" (case insensitive):
Code:
1Dd7BCtAQLEsKAn8LoYceVnChJugppMXbM
3DzkCVBN3VLoYCEVbhKxAsc7B2qg9pNW3h
1Ex3dKEQ62P1LoYcEVPs8ra5uWcMvj8XPC
179V56LoYCevph6CUwUNvP4huhYu9TiiVy
3LoYCEVV9PLS99113RXpayzpXJKdFiDTq9
1HBXxakN6qFL9CKVnrHLoyCeVguetikHsa
1LoyceVSbrv3CP3jT12qVYrNSbrqz4FL5q
3KtVhoLoYCEvvK4NjnfnAdvJk6NmPXau77
1J2VyNLLn2BLoyCevFPkUgcnJcGXwqWmWM
36X9KA5NueLSsPVjq3nLoyCEVbNdWcfMEc
1H28sq4JkXDp2UD3ULoyCeVJa4rnKcVrp2
3MPh3rUeD8xkZLcvwm7YtMKTdY5LoyCEvj
3LoyceVUWE9iUFKJT6ncGHgBGGXCwkGBeB
1DegqmsN9BXTyU7RMWysZX9ZqLoYcEVNtg
3K5K4gm4QmrBeBgTxqmYJLoYCEvsiPPis5

The list is a lot longer with "DaveF" (1699 entries) Cheesy

That's 5 characters for DaveF vs 6 for LoyceV so even eliminating the ones we posted those numbers are probably going to be similar for other character sets.

As I said, I never actually did as much with it as I wanted to, but there was a plan.

All in all, I still see Vanity addresses popping up and people using them, but it seems to have always been a more people who REALLY like BTC vs people who use BTC thing.

-Dave

630  Bitcoin / Mining speculation / Re: Solo Vs. Pool mining on: October 15, 2023, 12:49:51 PM
From 1 Jan 2019 to today they have found 10 blocks on LTC Pool
The blocks would have generated about 150 LTC in total (less but using round numbers and quick math)
They have gotten paid about 90 LTC in total from the pool. (OUCH)

I know you understand this, but worth explaining to those who do not.

For 4 miners and 4 years this is still a very lucky streak, when people talk about rewards being equal in the long run that long run is usually misunderstood, long period means infinity, with infinite time even a single miner would end up finding the same number of blocks it would have got mining on a pool but we all know that no miner can run for infinite period.

Also, it is worth mentioning that 4 L3s on LTC have a higher chance of hitting a block than 40 S*9 on BTC, probably even higher than 400 or 4000 S9 (on the phone can't do accurate math), so the variance on LTC is way less than that on BTC, on BTC to make things easier to understand, 99.9% of people mining with a few gears will never hit a single block during the lifespan of those miners. 

True, and odds are from here on out the chances of any of that gear finding anything is close to 0
I was just showing with a smaller sample set that unless you are very very very..and about 100 more very lucky.

Or, as I once described it to someone, it's not lottery mining, it's lottery mining using lottery tickets that people already threw out since they did not win and you are going though that pile of old tickets hoping to find the one that was a winner that someone missed.

-Dave
631  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Technical Support / People running older versions of Core - Why? on: October 15, 2023, 12:34:20 PM
So over the last couple of days / weeks I have seen a bunch of questions come up from people who are running / using older versions of core.
This person running 20.x: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5468581.0
This person connecting to 23.x: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5468928.msg62950766#msg62950766
And so on.

Now, I know if you are trying to work with older wallets (10+ years at this point) that's one thing.
But dealing with other issues why? It's not a difficult thing to update. And, if you don't you are going to have problems later.

Am I missing something?

-Dave
632  Other / Meta / Re: Should there be sub forums under Scam Accusations? on: October 14, 2023, 07:45:44 PM
The scam accusation section is enough to report scammers in my opinion it's better to add the scam accusation at the gambling section so that whomever that wants to visit any casino or gambling site can easily finds it there and then be very cautious of the one to get started with. There are some users who doesn't discover the accusations or regularly visit there to know what casinos that has good reputation to gamble on. Additional subforum can either makes it complicated whereby there may be some section where they won't visit at all, just the above user said of the investigation board I can't remember when last I have posted there or even posted there before. Although is a nice idea anyway.

Didn't think about that.
Possibly a separate board about gambling scam accusations under gambling and all the others in a generic scam board since it does look like 75%+ of the scam complaints are about casinos.

There is one sub board under scam accusation called investigation, which I do not visit.

Look at scam accusation board now: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?board=83.0

Since today has almost ended, remaining just 6 hours and 50 minutes, only 7 posts has been under scam accusation board.

If I should answer the question, becuase of low posts on scam accusation board, no need for sub board.

I disagree With you. The scam accusations board had 1331 number of posts last month from 235 posters. The Board is not as quiet as you may assume, and having a sub-board for easy navigation will be quite helpful because frequently, posts about scam projects and loan defaulters are buried for complaints about casino scams.

That is part of the issue, the sheer amount of casino scam accusations causes everything else to get buried.  

Scam Accusations  -> Exchanges
Same with exchanges, if you don't gamble you may miss the issues that started happening with your favorite exchange since it buried within all the other posts.

Just a thought. Would not require massive changes to the board in general, just more of a cleaning up thing. Might make it better, might make it worse.
You are a Tidy person, who wants everything to be in place. I like that, I also like things to be arranged in a manner way. Well, I have tracked each and every big section including the Scam Accusations and from the last 2 months, I can tell you, the number of new topics created in Scam Accusations is too low, then how can you say the important scam accusations about exchanges are buried under others. Okay, I got it, when a person makes a reply, the old topic goes up and the good ones, go below like to 3rd or maybe 5th pages.

But, won't it happen even when we make all the boards? Like if we make a sub-board of exchange in scam accusations, will good topics/accusations will not be buried under the new ones? They will, but I really liked your idea as things will be more arranged.

A messed up board is the one, nobody wants to visit, the best practice, if we want to know about the accusation of some exchange is to search about it, on ninjastic or using the search box.

Heh, I don't think in the 50+ years I have been alive the word tidy has been used to describe me.

The problem with the search here is it's far from perfect so someone doing a quick search might miss it and going to ninjastic or someplace else although good for the users in the know, others who don't use the forum as much and don't know about that or Loyces post scraper either will never see some things.


Maybe this is a good idea, but I think that in reality it only complicates things further. Many individual scam accusations do not even have the basic form that is expected in order to have an easier insight into where the problem is. Even many have not presented relevant evidence, especially newbies who just came to present the problem and ask for help.

Perhaps a more straightforward solution is to write on the subject of the topic for example [Casinos], [Exchange] etc... But even that would be too much, because hardly anyone even emphasizes [Solved], which is much more important because it directly affects someone's reputation.

Perhaps harsher moderation might be needed. If it's not in the scam report format: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=260073.0 or something close to it the mod has the duty to delete it and tell the poster to try again. Kind of like messing up an assignment in school and having the teacher tell you to do it again.

Might be a bit harsh, but it could clean up a lot.

-Dave
633  Other / Meta / Should there be sub forums under Scam Accusations? on: October 14, 2023, 05:05:07 PM
Instead of just Scam Accusations should there be:

Scam Accusations  -> Exchanges
Scam Accusations  -> Casinos
Scam Accusations ->Projects
Scam Accusations  -> People

Just wondering if it would actually cause more people to look in on things that interest them instead of seeing a mess of things that do not.
If you spend a lot of time in crypto casinos, you would want to look in there, but you don't care about the dozens of posts about the fact that the newest scam token is a scam.

Same with exchanges, if you don't gamble you may miss the issues that started happening with your favorite exchange since it buried within all the other posts.

Just a thought. Would not require massive changes to the board in general, just more of a cleaning up thing. Might make it better, might make it worse.

-Dave
634  Bitcoin / Mining speculation / Re: Solo Vs. Pool mining on: October 14, 2023, 03:05:13 PM
Although this is not 100% related to BTC I think it shows solo vs pool very well.
Let me start with these are not my miners, I just manage them. So I have access to them and the pool login. It's LTC mining but the point is the same.

4 x Bitmain L3+ units

From 1 Jan 2019 to today they have found 10 blocks on LTC Pool
The blocks would have generated about 150 LTC in total (less but using round numbers and quick math)
They have gotten paid about 90 LTC in total from the pool. (OUCH)

BUT of the 4 miners and 10 blocks
One miner found 1 block
Two miners found 2 blocks each
And the 4th miner found the other 5.

Is one miner better then the others. No, just had a ton better luck.
That is the way luck works.

Mining solo you could have the miner that found 1 block in close to 5 years. Or the one that is finding about 1 a year.

So, bringing this back to BTC solo vs pool. You can have some good luck mining solo and the potential to be way ahead.
You just have to be aware that the other side it true too and if you had that miner that found 1 block well then.....

Yes LTC is a lot different in cost and difficulty then BTC. But the math does not change only the amount of money involved.

-Dave
635  Bitcoin / Project Development / Re: Introducing: blockdyor on: October 14, 2023, 02:31:33 PM
Keep in mind that ALL the links that I can find on this site from the reviews that link out to other sites are referral links.
AND if you signed up they have whatever other tracking information you gave them.

Not a big deal in the overall scheme of things, but for the people who are really concerned with their privacy and not being tracked just consider this a heads up.

@blockdyor you might want to mention that. If you did I didn't see it.

-Dave
636  Bitcoin / Development & Technical Discussion / Re: [List] VanityGen Wallet Generation - threads, how to & links on: October 14, 2023, 02:22:51 PM
And for the OCD among us, or at least those who have the great idea that I will get organized *soon* it allows us to categorize some things.
i.e. bc1qCarStuff...... or bc1qH0tSauce.... or bc1qC0llect and so on.

So this way looking back later I would be able to figure out what was what without searching though a bunch of random addresses.
Have not really been doing it, but there was that plan....

-Dave

637  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Ferrari introduced BTC payment option for their cars on: October 14, 2023, 01:13:26 PM
Humor: For now you can use bitrefill to get ebay gift cards.
From there you can get yourself a totally electric Ferrari

https://www.ebay.com/itm/266440920092

Do not go down the rabbit hole of Ferrari branded / partnered things. I don't know when they started doing it but I guess for a fee and a percentage of the profits they will let you logo anything.

-Dave
638  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Ferrari introduced BTC payment option for their cars on: October 14, 2023, 12:32:40 PM
Buying a Ferrari is the simple part.
Then you have to insure it, maintain it and every other stupid expensive thing that you have to deal with when owning an exotic car.

But, beyond that it's the other implications of doing it this way. For the most part you would be better off with BTC -> Fiat -> Ferrari then BTC->Ferrari
At that level say 10BTC you can get better pricing then BitPay offers. .5% is a big number at that point.

Surprised nobody came in with the BitPay evil thing yet, but since it's a car you are already KYCd when you buy it.

Small humor, I mentioned Fiat meaning cash, but Fiat the company did use to own Ferrari :-)

-Dave

639  Bitcoin / Development & Technical Discussion / Re: Bitcoin Mempool Mismatch Between Nodes on: October 14, 2023, 12:05:38 PM
....
@DaveF ,

Technically they are both on the same LAN but one is behind a VPN connection not accepting inbound connections (the recently updated v20.2) and the other is open with inbound connections.

All,

I'm starting to wonder if perhaps this may be related to the transactions in the mempool being increased to higher than my nodes default 300 MB size and somehow my nodes picked different transactions to store locally when the levels dropped below that level however wouldn't of imagined this is possible as shouldn't they be prioritizing them the same way?  Either way from what I gather the mempool is below 300 MB now and the deltas between the two nodes continue to persist which would seem to invalidate my theory.

Also while I certainly appreciate all of the suggestions to try and correct the issue, the real reason for me bringing up this matter isn't to get my two nodes synched up so that they have the same mempool but to rather it's to understand why there is a discrepancy in the first place as this may somehow be some kind of attack that we aren't aware of presently that needs to be looked at (call me paranoid but we are competing with the most powerful and best funded organizations in the history of the planet, right?).  

Thanks all.

Is there any reason you are on the 20.x instead of 24 or 25?

Since they are both on the same LAN you should be able to add the nodes to each others peer list.
Most VPNs will only deal with connections going to outside your LAN, otherwise you would not be able to print to a network printer or see network shares and so on when running a VPN.

How is the hardware that they are running on? About the same in terms of CPU / RAM / Drive?

-Dave
640  Bitcoin / Wallet software / Re: Need a mobile wallet that lets you import a single key and only use that key on: October 13, 2023, 07:48:59 PM
I wonder, did the customer tell you what it is they are trying to achieve by using the same bitcoin address for everything, including for change? I mean, maybe they are looking to solve a problem that doesn't need solving that way because there are other better ways to go about it.

Goes back to what I said, they took over a project with some really crappy code and instead of starting from scratch they are trying to fix it.

Short (but still long) version. They want to repair BATMs they want to have the ability to send BTC from any of the techs phones and receive to the same address.
At least that is the theory. This way it all stays in a loop for now and the only cost is TX fees. It's for the short to medium term.

For now, the problem is accounting. Where did DaveF send the funds? Where did the change go? Pmalek was supposed to get $50 in BTC from the machine what address did it go to? This way at least all the funds stay in that loop.

The plan in the long term is for the home office to be running an app that has the master public key for all the phones so it can monitor what went where and so on.
For now, they have this mess.

Here is the kicker....THEY ARE NOT A CRYPTO COMPANY...THEY HAVE JUST ABOUT NO IDEA HOW CRYPTO WORKS. But, they have been repairing ATMs and self checkout kiosks and Slot machines and the like for years so they figured this should be an easy fit. <cut to laughter, they said easy HAHAHAHAH>

They took over a small company that was doing BATM repair but just the assets, the staff all left as of Sept 30th. So the Tech / Hardware side is close enough to fake it. The other stuff, yeah not so much. And instead of hiring someone they just deal with me and a couple of other IT support people and ask questions like they did, which I then passed on to the forum.

-Dave
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