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641  Bitcoin / Hardware / Re: Bitmain's Released Antminer S9, World's First 16nm Miner Ready to Order on: June 24, 2016, 11:51:11 PM
Mine showed up today. Mining away right meow.
Mine sort of did...
UPS showed up at work to drop it off but... It was still tagged as COD for the customs/brokerage fee despite me paying UPS with a CCard around noon on Thursday.

I have the receipt and UPS clearance conf# but he said since their delivery system hasn't released it yet if it clears he'll be back around our normal pickups time to drop it off, if not, should be Monday.

5:00p came and went, no miner  Cry
WTF is wrong with UPS's accounting systems?Huh

Too late now but you would get a refund if you double paid so probably would've been worth it.

Similar thing happened to me with an S7.  I got them to waive the fee after a half dozen phone calls but the driver didn't see that in whatever system he could see so he insisted on payment to leave it.  I paid him and a month later they sent me a refund check.
642  Bitcoin / Hardware / Re: Bitmain's Released Antminer S9, World's First 16nm Miner Ready to Order on: June 24, 2016, 01:41:20 AM
According to coinwarz.com calculations
My weekly profit after July 09/2016(Bitcoin Halving) is:
56.32 usd x 52 weeks= 2928 Usd ( If I go with weekly calculations,bitcoin difficulty, and bitcoin price  stay same.)

Yet 2928 Usd does not include hardware cost.Therefore I will be break even after a year. If bitcoin price stay same, bitcoin difficulty stay same as well.
Can you check the numbers and let me know if I'm missing anything.

If I have a Antminer s9
Hash Rate is : 12900 ghs
Power watts: 1275+%7= 1365 watts
power cost:10 cents
pool fee: 2%
Bitcoin difficulty: 209453158595.38100
Block REward:12.5 After July 09/ 2016
Bitcoin Usd:638 june 22/2016
Cost of hardware:2100 usd+ power supply+ shipping=Around 3000Usd

Link is Below
http://www.coinwarz.com/calculators/bitcoin-mining-calculator/?h=12900.00&p=1365&pc=0.05&pf=2.00&d=209453158595.38100000&r=12.50000000&er=638.00000000&hc=0.00

Here's your problem:
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power cost:10 cents

This variable will almost certainly go up over time:
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Bitcoin Usd:638
643  Bitcoin / Hardware / Re: Bitmain's Released Antminer S9, World's First 16nm Miner Ready to Order on: June 23, 2016, 09:45:13 PM
Hi I have received two units of S9 and both have one board hashing around 2.7

They are batch 2, is it a normal? Any tips?

Thanks!



As others have said try lowering the freq.  I have one board which underperforms as well.  If I do a 'save and apply' without changing anything, sometimes it will come up good (higher hash) and sometimes it will come up bad (lower hash).  But lower freq usually means better odds of it coming up good when I restart cgminer.  I can tell within a minute if it got a good start because it will either come up past 3000 or it wont by that time.
644  Bitcoin / Hardware / Re: ANTMINER S7 is available at bitmaintech.com with 4.86TH/s, 0.25J/GH on: June 22, 2016, 11:10:38 PM
Hey if you happen to see how to override the "stop hashing on overheat" feature I would appreciate hearing about it.

I have a board with an erroneous temp sensor that randomly throws out temps anywhere from 70 to 150 or so.  The problem is with most of those the miner refuses to mine at all.  It thinks it is overheating.  It used to throw out zero a lot which would allow it to continue to hash but it doesn't seem to report zero anymore, always some random number, usually in the 90's.  I have that board disconnected so I can hash with the remaining two but I would sure like to figure out how to make it ignore those erroneous temps and keep on mining.
645  Bitcoin / Hardware / Re: Bitmain's Released Antminer S9, World's First 16nm Miner Ready to Order on: June 22, 2016, 10:54:50 PM
I bought one B3 unit and noticed an exception from UPS. Apparently I owe $46.53 in duties. I'm in California.

I told UPS that I've bought similarly priced units from Bitmain before and never had to pay duties. The UPS service person told me that Bitmain must have paid the duties previously, but did not this time.

I know that Phil got hit up for duties too, but the thinking was that he had two units shipped at the same time (even if they were different orders). Maybe Bitmain is pushing the duty cost onto us now and didn't before?

Seems inconsistent to me. And very irritating...

Ask UPS what that amount consists of and what's the HTS code on the invoice. Either Bitmain messed something up or UPS is trying to monetize you. The amount sounds excessive. Bitmain never paid anything AFAIK, that's just somebody giving you a generic runaround.

I believe it is somewhat arbitrary.  The one time UPS wanted a fee from me was not the most expensive order I ever made.  As part of the rigamarole I went through to get an explanation (and eventually a refund) I provided old tracking numbers with shipments from bitmain for a greater dollar amount that had no fee attached.  I could practically hear the head-scratching over the phone.  Honestly I think they just wing it and sometimes they randomly decide to add a fee.  My S9 was more than $2000 USD and it had no fee.

EDIT: Wish I had bought another B3 while it was under 3 BTC now.  With BTC this far down I don't see myself buying any hardware for quite some time.
646  Bitcoin / Hardware / Re: Bitmain's Released Antminer S9, World's First 16nm Miner Ready to Order on: June 22, 2016, 01:30:46 AM
The only time that happened to me was on an S7 and the fee was $38.  I think the cost was around $1900 but I can't recall now.

You might be able to call UPS and get it reversed.  I did.  But I had to pay the driver to get it and they sent me a refund check about a month later.
647  Bitcoin / Hardware / Re: Bitmain's Released Antminer S9, World's First 16nm Miner Ready to Order on: June 21, 2016, 01:27:31 AM
My batch 3 gets 12.5 Th downclocked to 593 and even then I have to restart cgminer several times for one of the boards to get a decent hashrate.  Luckily I can tell within a minute or so if the board is going to get a decent rate but it kind of sucks that it is hit or miss like that.  If I don't restart cgminer to get that board working well it hashes about 1.1 Th lower.

The config page still has the shutdown at 80 degree option and the chips are always over 80 so I think we can conclude that the temps reported on previous miners (S7, etc...) were PCB temps.  I am getting high 90's (like 98-100) on the chips with the PCB's reporting upper 60's (like 68-69).

watch for heat creep  Mine tend to creep to as high as 75-105 unless I clock to 550  vs 650.

much of this issue is summer temps in the solar array shed.  we are getting fans set up and will change the venting setup.

this will fix heat issues. and we will boost the  clock back up.

At the hottest part of the day they are hitting 100-101.  But the PCB temps are right around what the S7's are showing (67-70) so I am guessing the S7 chip temps are hitting those kind of numbers too. 
648  Bitcoin / Hardware / Re: Bitmain's Released Antminer S9, World's First 16nm Miner Ready to Order on: June 20, 2016, 08:29:00 PM
My batch 3 gets 12.5 Th downclocked to 593 and even then I have to restart cgminer several times for one of the boards to get a decent hashrate.  Luckily I can tell within a minute or so if the board is going to get a decent rate but it kind of sucks that it is hit or miss like that.  If I don't restart cgminer to get that board working well it hashes about 1.1 Th lower.

The config page still has the shutdown at 80 degree option and the chips are always over 80 so I think we can conclude that the temps reported on previous miners (S7, etc...) were PCB temps.  I am getting high 90's (like 98-100) on the chips with the PCB's reporting upper 60's (like 68-69).
649  Bitcoin / Hardware / Re: Bitmain's Released Antminer S9, World's First 16nm Miner Ready to Order on: June 18, 2016, 05:41:27 PM
B3 made a brief reappearance then went out of stock again. Maybe they updated the BTC price, which is now 2.81.

Can someone tell me the per unit UPS shipping cost to the US? I'm trying to do an ROI calculation (anticipating the next batch) but can't get the shipping cost because it's out of stock.

It's back up now.
650  Bitcoin / Hardware / Re: Bitmain's Released Antminer S9, World's First 16nm Miner Ready to Order on: June 17, 2016, 05:32:54 PM

There was that whole thing where Kano had talked to someone who had an S9 before they were technically released and it was sending an extraneous command at connection that was causing it not to work on the Kano pool.  I don't know if you could see it in the logs at startup or not.  But it seems within the realm of possibility that if this one did not have the firmware updated before being shipped it may be configured to use that extraneous command at connection which would prevent it from working on Kano CKpool.  In that case then theoretically speaking, a firmware update should fix it.  However based on the intermittent bricking reports from S7 firmware updates I think I would be certain that was the issue before going down that road.  

Thanks.  Alas my S9 unit was shipped with the June 8th firmware, and I'm seeing the same issue on my S7s.  I've asked for help on the #ckpool IRC channel, but so far, no response.

To the previous responder:  I actually do know how to spell my username, and the image shows that as being consistent with my usage on Slush.  As mentioned, the website accepts that spelling as me.

Then that suggests an intentional block on the pool side for some reason.  Message him on here or post in the pool thread.
651  Bitcoin / Hardware / Re: Bitmain's Released Antminer S9, World's First 16nm Miner Ready to Order on: June 17, 2016, 05:02:15 PM


Love to try CKPool, but unable to connect for some reason.  Any suggestions?

name wrong ! chk properly.


There was that whole thing where Kano had talked to someone who had an S9 before they were technically released and it was sending an extraneous command at connection that was causing it not to work on the Kano pool.  I don't know if you could see it in the logs at startup or not.  But it seems within the realm of possibility that if this one did not have the firmware updated before being shipped it may be configured to use that extraneous command at connection which would prevent it from working on Kano CKpool.  In that case then theoretically speaking, a firmware update should fix it.  However based on the intermittent bricking reports from S7 firmware updates I think I would be certain that was the issue before going down that road.  
652  Bitcoin / Hardware / Re: Bitmain's Released Antminer S9, World's First 16nm Miner Ready to Order on: June 17, 2016, 12:14:38 AM


hmm which new psu are you talking about?? the miners with the psu mounted on the top? those are only supposed to reach 2.7th/s on the default config. or do you mean the separate 1600w psu (if so those arent "new") they sell? that psu only runs on 220v power i believe so are you sure your using 220v and not 110v?? try using another psu with 4 pci-e power connectors and hook 1 up to the controller and the other 3 to one of the boards. power the miner on with 1 board at a time and see what the hashrate for each board is. this will help you determine which board has issues.

Completely useless suggestions.

First of all, he lives in a country where is 230V electricity .
Second. I'm pretty sure he bought 1600W PSU.
Thirdly. S9 software shows each blade separately. Hashing speed and HV errors.
There is no need to disconnect anything.

I got my first five S9 and one is also "lemon".
Tomorrow brings  courier another 6x S9 . I hope they are better.

Did you use multiple accounts to buy 11?  Did you buy more than 11?

Also, does anyone have a link to the spec sheet on the BM1387?  I can't find it on the site but I suspect it's there somewhere.
653  Bitcoin / Hardware / Re: Bitmain's Released Antminer S9, World's First 16nm Miner Ready to Order on: June 16, 2016, 10:11:01 PM
Well these batch 1 experiences don't sound very encouraging. 
654  Bitcoin / Pools / Re: [35+PH] Kano CKPool kano.is 0.9% PPLNS US,DE,SG,DK,JP,FR on: June 16, 2016, 01:08:44 PM
Code:
[2016-06-15 19:03:19] Lost 10 shares due to no stratum share response from pool 0

from bmminer during times when my connectivity to the pool seems fine
Even though cgminer has had a stable release out for over 6 months with this fixed, there's an extremely high chance they have an out of date version of cgminer which isn't handling the pings from ckpool and misinterpreting the ping command as a share. BM have been notoriously bad at keeping their code in sync with master cgminer - basically they haven't.

So does this suggest that the S9's will underperform on Kano (or maybe everywhere)?  And why did they rename cgminer to bmminer?

@E how often are you seeing this?
655  Bitcoin / Hardware / Re: Bitmain's Released Antminer S9, World's First 16nm Miner Ready to Order on: June 16, 2016, 12:59:37 PM
Being able to see the individual blades' performance opens up the possibility of combining good or bad performing blades into a single unit and then clocking the unit appropriately for the blades (presumably voiding the warranty in the process though).

@yxt have you tried downclocking at all to see what happens to the blades that are not performing as well?



Also out of curiosity, has anyone from batch 2 or 3 received a shipping notification?  I am curious if batch 3 really is going to ship before batch 2.
656  Bitcoin / Hardware / Re: Bitmain's Released Antminer S9, World's First 16nm Miner Ready to Order on: June 14, 2016, 02:11:33 AM
I have some of the Sinewave Line Interactive models.  I don't use them for always on though, miners go on the NCL bank and get turned off after just a few minutes if the power goes out and stays out.  Servers are on the main bank.  But what is super cool about having them is you can remotely power cycle the NCL bank as long as you have access to a computer on the same network.  So if I am away and a miner acts up and I remote in and still can't make it cooperate I can power cycle it which pretty much always brings it back to life.
657  Bitcoin / Hardware / Re: Bitmain's Released Antminer S9, World's First 16nm Miner Ready to Order on: June 13, 2016, 05:34:53 PM
Only once out of all of my orders through UPS going back to S1 did they charge me a fee (it was on an S7).  I called a bajillion people at UPS until I found someone who reversed it in their system but it happened about an hour before the driver came so he still insisted on a check to leave the package with me.  I did however get a refund check mailed to me from UPS about a month later.
658  Bitcoin / Pools / Re: [45+PH] **5x AVALON6 GIVEAWAY** Kano CKPool kano.is 0.9% PPLNS US,DE,SG,DK,JP,FR on: June 11, 2016, 01:01:57 PM

Use an independent wallet such as GreenBits for Great security or a nice to use wallet such as Airbitz.





What about the blockchain wallet

I use blockchain wallet for my mining payouts but blockchain wallet isn't great overall.  It is convenient.  You just have to make sure that when you send all those little mining payouts from the blockchain wallet to a real wallet that you add enough fee to get it picked up.  And with blockchain wallet you get no real idea of the kb size of the transaction so you just have to guess at the fee size.  I have had transactions get stuck for literally 10 days because I didn't include enough fee.  Although maybe the new version of their wallet does a better job of calculating a fee for you?  Not sure on that point.  I always did manual fees on the old version of the wallet and haven't tried the new version yet, I just saw where they offered it when I logged in last.

I have a VM that is usually turned off that I run a couple different "lite" wallets on where I store the lion's share of my coins.  I fire it up when I want to spend some or I need to get new deposit addresses to send my mining rewards to from blockchain.  The VM does nothing else so I consider it secure enough.  Plus VM's are easy to backup.
659  Bitcoin / Hardware / Re: Bitmain's Released Antminer S9, World's First 16nm Miner Ready to Order on: June 10, 2016, 01:29:23 AM
If you want it at a good price, wait until about September.

Yeah I'm done wanting anything from Bitmain. Just an observer now. Perhaps will grab one or two miners if they price them right but not holding my breath. September might be correct.

I'm in the same boat. But it feels good to be an intentional bystander instead of an addict this time.

It's like being an alcoholic at a bar watching everyone else get drunk and not being tempted.

For the right price though, I'll fall off the wagon.

Call me waiting to get drunk too then.
660  Bitcoin / Pools / Re: [45+PH] **5x AVALON6 GIVEAWAY** Kano CKPool kano.is 0.9% PPLNS US,DE,SG,DK,JP,FR on: June 07, 2016, 03:23:40 PM
It's feast or famine around here...
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