CFB, what is the time table of getting it turned off and the tangle truly being in the wild?
Everyone will decide for himself. IOTA is decentralized after all, so we can't decide for the others. |
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What shills believe doesn't buy fucks.
You have proven or shown nothing to refute that their technology doesn't have consensus without a centralized Coordinator.
After which will explain that proof-of-stake, proof-of-work, and existing DAGs are all fucked
we need proof of your sanity first.  |
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Называть участников крупнейшего форума по криптовалютах шутами, как минимум, не дальновидно.
Возможно, но я почему-то не беспокоюсь об этом. |
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Зачем уважаемый Come-from-Beyond сидит на "помойке"? Независимый форум всегда лучше корпоративного.
Трудно найти шутов, которые развлекали бы меня в перерывах между спринтами. Приходится тут тусоваться. |
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А по делу нечего сказать?
Этот форум - помойка. Хочешь разговоров по делу - иди в Слэк на #russian канал и спрашивай. |
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Например, этой весной пару раз подтверждения транзакций я ждал неделю и больше.
ЛОЛ, ты, видно, из тех глупышек, которые с надеждой жду девушку до полуночи, хотя свидание было назначено на 6 вечера. Дождался-то хоть, болезный? |
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Итить-колотить, на картинке "крапива, которая не жжётся". Я в детстве не обращал внимание на неё, а ведь надо было курить или даже продавать... |
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In Byteball, the entities can change at any time if the majority of users decide..
How is the majority measured? voting: by trusting the witnesses or withdrawing trust whitepaper page 1 Users choose the witnesses by naming the user-trusted witnesses in every
storage unit.page 10 Note that we trust the witnesses only to be signs of reality and to
not post nonserial units on any shadow chains. We are not giving any of them
control over the network or any part thereof. Even for this small duty, it is users
who appoint the witnesses and they can change their decisions at any time.page 11 In case a user thinks that any of the witnesses has lost his credibility, or there
are just better candidates, the user can replace the witness with a new witness in
his list, bearing in mind that his witness list may not differ from that of other units
by more than one position. This means that any changes can happen only
gradually, and a general consensus is required for a change bigger than one
position.I think the concept is very nice. (It reminds me of the "antifragility" propagated by N.N. Taleb - it combines flexibility and stability.) I meant majority of users. I doubt someone will ask the passports to count real humans, there must be another method of majority measurement. |
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In Byteball, the entities can change at any time if the majority of users decide..
How is the majority measured? |
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As some people know I was doing an analysis of Byteball. They were asking me for the results. I'm almost ready to publish the report, but I need two questions to be answered for that:
1. Is Byteball a decentralized cryptocurrency?
2. If it's decentralized then what definition of "decentralized" is used?
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So you agree then no need to prove that IOTA will break when you remove the Coordinator.
And thus no need to prove that IOTA is a scam.
And no need to prove that you're obviously not proving that I want to buy your scam.
To agree or disagree I first must start to care about making a decision. And it's obvious I don't. Do you need the proof of that? |
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Can you prove that is the reason?
What about people who don't like scammers leeching off the crypto ecosystem and turning a noble cause into a shitfest?
No reason to prove something obvious. Just keep reading this forum and in a year or two you'll see the pattern. |
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Please PM me a link as you did to the first episode once it is ready.
Will do. |
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just nobody interested here to talk and care about theymos' opinion about IOTA?
Theymos is just the admin of this forum, except that he demonstrated no expertise on the topic. |
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You have previously lost bets with me and failed to pay up.
Of course, you can't find a proof of that. |
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Deflect on Byteball all you want, your challenge to a bet only reveals that my statements concerning your latest scam coin IOTA are valid and correct. Nope, I still wont recommend to anyone in the IoT industry to choose IOTA for anything, but will recommend Byteball as it is the first DAG-based design with no architectural limits on scaling. You can stay butthurt about that. I think at this point everyone has seen that you don't believe in your own words. If one day you decide to put your money where your mouth is - I'll be very surprised. |
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IOTA has PoW, yet it can be easily attacked, so much, that you need to have a centralized Coordinator. Why is that, PoW in Iota does not secure it? You cant just add massive amounts of PoW to secure it? But instead rely on 1 special Coordinator? What a baby.
Coordinator protects against 34% attacks, it's not related to anti-spam. I think you are confusing the way IOTA works with the way Byteball works.
I learned a lot about Byteball during my last testing, I think it's you who confuse that. If you can attack it, go ahead attack it, your last "attack" which stalled the network for 6h, was due to a bug in the archiving of units, not anything with the consensus algorithm of Byteball or PoW, and because the 12 witnesses are still run my main dev and not other known real world entities.
Then it's a no-brainer for you to bet, for example, 8 BTC. Easy money for you. So? I bet you there is other flaws and bugs in Byteball, as there is in any software, and in IOTA - but IOTA has a bug which cant be fixed - a conceptual retarded mistake. I can repeat my attack again and again until all bugs are fixed and then I'll do the attack once again. What do you think of that? |
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Here we discuss Iota and not other actual cryptocurrencies. Stay on topic or get out.
My points about retarded iota as concept and weak security stand. Iota, more like Coordinatorcoin for correct name.
We are discussing IOTA. You wrote upthread that Byteball doesn't have PoW implying that Byteball suits IoT while IOTA doesn't suit because of PoW. My counterargument - a system without PoW can be easily attacked. So without PoW Byteball can't work (including in IoT). This is what can be demonstrated once we arrange the bet. How much are you willing to bet? |
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Just because you can hit the reply link and write a few words, mentioning Byteball, does not mean you responded to IOTA issues.
Iota is a retarded design, any software bugs in other software projects cant solve that oxymoronic concept.
For better visibility: PS: What about our bet? My point is that without PoW Byteball mainnet confirmations can be halted for a noticeable interval of time. Do you agree or not? If not then how much BTC can you bet? |
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