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1401  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: BYTEBALL: Totally new consensus algorithm + private untraceable payments on: March 21, 2017, 04:29:04 PM
You overestimate my power.
So, what are you waiting for?
Someone with more knowledge and skills.

I mean that it's you who is supposed to prove that DAGs can scale without a limit.
1402  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: BYTEBALL: Totally new consensus algorithm + private untraceable payments on: March 21, 2017, 03:39:32 PM
Well that explains a lot.

If you dont want to justs be FUDing and trolling, and is actually "scratching the surface, analyzing", explain why the scenario in your picture would imply a limit in how many transactions/units can be handled. Cant just insinuate your pictures mean there is a limit while not explaining why. Ill wait...

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Philosophical_burden_of_proof:
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When two parties are in a discussion and one makes a claim that the other disputes, the one who makes the claim typically has a burden of proof to justify or substantiate that claim especially when it challenges a perceived status quo.

The advantage is all the features listed on byteball.org and being a DAG it has no architectural limit on scaling, only implementation and hardware is limiting.

So, what are you waiting for?
1403  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: BYTEBALL: Totally new consensus algorithm + private untraceable payments on: March 21, 2017, 02:17:55 PM
Your veiled attempts now at being nice to Byteball by "scratching the surface, asking questions analyzing internals" is ridiculous, reminds me of Eric Cartman "just asking questions, bro". If youre such a good programmer, on such a high shiny horse, analyzing Byteball internals, developing IoT non-scam coin, you would see the answer to your questions faster than it took you to color the pictures.

You overestimate my power.
1404  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: BYTEBALL: Totally new consensus algorithm + private untraceable payments on: March 21, 2017, 12:47:32 PM
I hope better counterarguments will be posted later, we don't want BB to be perceived as a platform based on memes instead of math, do we?..
No, you have to try harder, your troll-post isnt even worthy of a real counter-argument.

Ill give you a IOTA-style counter-argument. OK, its simple, just pick a Main Chain by random selection (Like IOTA Monte-Carlo tip selection algorithm), then ask developers to resolve any issues and make a "milestone-database" to build upon.

Its still nice you are trying to spread distrust in Byteball ability to scale, now with pictures and colors. How quaint.

Ok, it's not really necessary to post counterarguments here, just make sure that when someone from Byteball team does AMA on Reddit or something similar, he is able to answer my questions. What I asked is just scratching the surface, these questions will come to anyone analyzing Byteball internal mechanisms.

Regarding IOTA Monte-Carlo, check this - https://forum.iotatoken.com/t/iota-consensus-masterclass/1193.
1405  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: BYTEBALL: Totally new consensus algorithm + private untraceable payments on: March 21, 2017, 12:20:33 PM
Person who didnt read Byteball whitepaper, who didnt even know 1 witness change is allowed, who designed an IoT "coin" utilizing "Proof-of-**Work**", attempts to spread Fear Uncertainty and Doubt about Byteball ability to scale using computer sci-ency terms.


I hope better counterarguments will be posted later, we don't want BB to be perceived as a platform based on memes instead of math, do we?..
1406  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: BYTEBALL: Totally new consensus algorithm + private untraceable payments on: March 21, 2017, 12:08:39 PM
Dont you have more important things to do, such as updating the accounting book, I mean, the database of IOTA?

Do you have a better counterargument?


quote from the source:

CAP is frequently misunderstood as if one had to choose to abandon one of the three guarantees at all times. In fact, the choice is really between consistency and availability for when a partition happens only; at all other times, no trade-off has to be made.

Sorry, didn't bother to read the actual article. Try https://www.infoq.com/articles/cap-twelve-years-later-how-the-rules-have-changed:
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In its classic interpretation, the CAP theorem ignores latency, although in practice, latency and partitions are deeply related. Operationally, the essence of CAP takes place during a timeout, a period when the program must make a fundamental decision-the partition decision:

cancel the operation and thus decrease availability, or

proceed with the operation and thus risk inconsistency.

Unless you put all 12 witnesses on a single machine you have to deal with the following situation:

Blue balls are picked by 4 witnesses as the main chain, green balls are picked by other 4 witnesses and there is another version picked by the remaining witnesses (it's not shown to emphasize that noone can have a complete view of the DAG). Under high load every witness will pick its own main chain because none of them will see the whole DAG. The chance of that is high because
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In normal use, people mostly link their new units to slightly less recent units, meaning that the DAG grows only in one direction.
is not true in high load, the DAG becomes very wide.
1407  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: BYTEBALL: Totally new consensus algorithm + private untraceable payments on: March 21, 2017, 09:57:11 AM
The advantage is all the features listed on byteball.org and being a DAG it has no architectural limit on scaling, only implementation and hardware is limiting.

It's wrong. As all distributed systems DAG is limited by https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/CAP_theorem.
1408  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: Declarative smart contracts in Byteball on: March 20, 2017, 07:58:41 PM
What software did you use?

My own, I have been using it for several years already. There are also sites where you need just to copy-paste the texts and wait a little.
1409  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: IOTA on: March 20, 2017, 07:47:28 PM
actually @admin is CfB in YDX slack.
and he is free to trade if he wishes so in a free market.

i used to trade in with supernet's assets and the lead dev there always has sell and buy walls.
in fact if you have traded nxt assets before, there is a lot of buy and sells from owners.

I was lured into this thread with a promise that I'll find a drama here (the guy knows I like dramas). Unfortunatelly, it's too late, everything seems to cool down already. Anyway, I did some trades and now I hold 70 Gi more than week ago. Expect more trades, I hope the spread will be wide, I hate scalping...
1410  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: Declarative smart contracts in Byteball on: March 19, 2017, 10:45:17 PM
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Lol.

Looks like Byteball attracted its own trolls. Probably Come-from-Beyonds sockpuppets.

Interesting coincidence. I was playing with writing style analyzer yesterday and found another account of Qora developer. You could use this technique to compare my style and style of dfd1...
1411  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: BYTEBALL: Totally new consensus algorithm + private untraceable payments on: March 19, 2017, 09:45:00 PM
...WebSocket (protocol designed for web browser to allow some AJAX fancy things).

This is not very correct. I would even say "misleading"...
1412  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: Qora - the end of the story? on: March 18, 2017, 11:36:15 PM
Original Qora dev handed over to new team last year,

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1358722.0

New team working under the radar continuing policy of zero hype.

Did Qora dev reveal what he was going to work on (before quitting)?
1413  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Qora - the end of the story? on: March 18, 2017, 11:11:42 PM
All main Qora threads are locked. What did happen to Qora developer? He visits the account but doesn't post and there is no progress in Qora development, it seems.
1414  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: BYTEBALL: Totally new consensus algorithm + private untraceable payments on: March 18, 2017, 08:14:41 PM


Are Byteball smart contracts based on SQL?
1415  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: BYTEBALL: Totally new consensus algorithm + private untraceable payments on: March 18, 2017, 11:40:38 AM
Nobody wants you to continue posting your lies and worthless opinions here.

"Nobody" is an exaggeration. I believe those who are interested in knowing how Byteball works would like to see answers on my technical questions. Of course, those who hold coins only to sell them at higher price to newbies feel themselves uncomfortable when valid technical concerns are raised. We can put the questions on hold now but I'll ask them again in the future. Once Byteball gets more exposure in the real world the others will ask them too. These questions come naturally.
1416  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: BYTEBALL: Totally new consensus algorithm + private untraceable payments on: March 17, 2017, 11:43:21 PM
If you stop posting FUD, lies and deceit about Byteball I wont reply, I promise.  Wink

But it's you who post lies... Deadlock, it seems. Let's continue, I don't mind.
1417  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: BYTEBALL: Totally new consensus algorithm + private untraceable payments on: March 17, 2017, 11:03:28 PM
That I do not give a shit about you, not even enough to accept your money.  Cool

And yet you reply to every my post, I see...
1418  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: BYTEBALL: Totally new consensus algorithm + private untraceable payments on: March 17, 2017, 10:14:53 PM
Wow, so much sell, how will the market ever absorb this hit of an entire 8GB.

What a puny attempt at price-dumping and more spreading of fear in this thread, when your lie is called out and highlighted in a screenshot of the whitepaper.  Grin

Are you panicking? Got no more FUD to spread around here?

Anyone else, take the "discounted" GB and GBB, or CfB donate them to the community fund. I got my own money and dont need yours.

I asked to bet that you are not a programmer who was sent with the mission to pick a coin for IoT.
I asked to bet about other things too.
In all cases you refused by making childish excuses.
Now I offer you to get very cheap GBs in exchange for bitcoins and you refuse again.
What does all this mean? That everything you say is a lie or a delusion created by your brain.
I probably go too hard on you, take a break for few days, you need it.
1419  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: BYTEBALL: Totally new consensus algorithm + private untraceable payments on: March 17, 2017, 10:04:56 PM
I dont want your scam money

[img size=100]https://i.imgur.com/qslDhtb.png[/img]

We'll return to this topic tomorrow, now I just need to sell few GBs and do some important things.
1420  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: BYTEBALL: Totally new consensus algorithm + private untraceable payments on: March 17, 2017, 10:03:29 PM
I'm looking to sell ~8 GB and ~12 GBB, if anyone has bitcoins on ydx.slack.com then I can set ASK orders at 3 microBTC per 1 MB(B), it's with 25% discount comparing to the market price, if I'm not mistaken. Or I can send an invite, I'll need your email for that. All trades are escrowed by Yassin on that Slack. Read the rules on http://iotasupport.com/buyingiotaotc.shtml, most important part is that he charges 1% for deposits/withdrawals.

SatoNatomato, time to show your loyalty, it's very cheap GBs for you.

EDIT: I miscalculated, it's 33% discount.
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