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681  Local / Nederlands (Dutch) / Bitcoin nodes, Nederland wint op veel terreinen. on: January 24, 2015, 02:04:00 PM
populationnodescountrynodes per nodes percentage   A*B
milion capitafrom total
AB
16886600309Netherlands18,304,60%0,84
9743087137Sweden14,062,04%0,29
35675834340Canada9,5375,06%0,48
3202530002504United States7,8237,28%2,92
80767463585Germany7,248,71%0,63
66100000455France6,886,77%0,47
64105654423United Kingdom6,66,30%0,42
146270033277Russian Federation1,894,12%0,08
1367820000158China0,122,35%0,00
bron nodes
bron population


Ziet er naar uit dat bitcoin door nederland(ers) behoorlijk ondersteund wordt.
Redenen waarom? Mijn idee:
Relatief hoog opleidingsniveau
Relatief hoge graad van vrijheid van meningsuiting.
Genetisch bepaald ondernemersschap (zie gouden eeuw met al die schepen)
Handelsland

Iemand nog een idee?


De VS doet het ook niet slecht vind ik.
Het is veel moeilijker om veel mensen in beweging te krijgen, met 37% van het totaal aantal nodes doen zij het het beste wat mij betreft. Maar goed, dat is persoonlijke mening.


edit: lijstje geupdate naar bronnen
682  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: D wave and the death of Bitcoin? on: January 24, 2015, 01:41:08 PM
From here, it makes complete sense to send your stash to a newly created paper wallet that have never been used to spent from the address, in effect makes the public key never been exposed to before on the blockchain.
But dude, when you transfer coins to an address, everyone will know if you like it or not.
It is a feature of the blockchain.
You cannot hide your coins.

Actually no, you send coins to the ripemd160 hash of a public key, until you spend said coins the public key is not revealed.

Ah,  I understand.
I now try to never reuse an address again, it makes sense.
(does the brilliance of bitcoin ever stop? wow)

Thanks for clearing it up!
683  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: Dogecoin Faucet list (TOP paying faucet) Updated daily on: January 24, 2015, 01:20:54 PM
to earn free Dogecoins and so much wow wow

go here and earn some Dogecoins

http://www.webtypeinfo.in/2015/01/doge-coin-faucet-list.html

This faucet list is updating now
to add your faucet in my list comment below

I think this message should be in the scamaltcoin section.

why scam ?
is anything wrong

Don't worry. It's only a personal opinion of mine.
Do whatever you like.


if i did any thing wrong you can tell me i will improve this in future
i am just sharing a faucet list with newibes

Yes, but it about dogecoin and therefor should be in the altsection is my opinion.
I also think you should not taint newbies with altcoins but point them to the master first.
684  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: D wave and the death of Bitcoin? on: January 24, 2015, 12:55:45 PM
From here, it makes complete sense to send your stash to a newly created paper wallet that have never been used to spent from the address, in effect makes the public key never been exposed to before on the blockchain.
But dude, when you transfer coins to an address, everyone will know if you like it or not.
It is a feature of the blockchain.
You cannot hide your coins.
685  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: Dogecoin Faucet list (TOP paying faucet) Updated daily on: January 24, 2015, 12:54:00 PM
to earn free Dogecoins and so much wow wow

go here and earn some Dogecoins

http://www.webtypeinfo.in/2015/01/doge-coin-faucet-list.html

This faucet list is updating now
to add your faucet in my list comment below

I think this message should be in the scamaltcoin section.

why scam ?
is anything wrong

Don't worry. It's only a personal opinion of mine.
Do whatever you like.
686  Economy / Economics / Re: The Future True Reference of Value on: January 24, 2015, 12:52:54 PM
“The universal reference” (Joohansson) would be what its observer most “demand[𝗌].”

That would be time I guess.
All the money of the world without time is useless.

Could you please explain that a bit further? Sounds interesting!


Well last week I came up with a new theory that time equals energy but we have difficulty really understanding it because of our biological nature.

To put it simple: Everyone wants to live forever.
(almost) Everyone want unlimited time to do all the nice things on their wishlist.
So, TIME is what all observers on this planet wants most.
It is wise to save some time/energy in another form for the moment you are not able to produce enough to survive anymore.
Some people save dollars, other save gold, others save stocks, other save bitcoin.
But many people do that because they know their productive life will run out and they will be dependent on something else.

But when you are a hundred years, it doesn't make sense to have saved energy for another hundred years, unless you want to give it to your children or something.
There are some simple equations:
Time=energy
Energy=oil
Oil=stored sun energy
Gold was chosen to be a barter good for oil
So you could also say:
Gold=(stored)energy
Gold=(stored)time

But now we have a war which is fought out between gold an bitcoin.
Because Bitcoin is a much better store of value since the supply is limited and not controlled by humans.

I hope you understand.
It's difficult to explain in English. I could go on for hours Grin
687  Other / Beginners & Help / Re: How many bitcoins is......... on: January 24, 2015, 12:42:27 PM
How many bitcoins is $30? What's the fastest way to get them besides of doing some kind of work, etc?

For me $30 is 0,001BTC
Other people think it is cheaper, but I disagree.

Stop looking at the exchange price and determine the price for yourself.
Looking at the exchange rate all the time will make you buy high and sell low.
You really think bitcoin will reach 30k? That's a little bit optimistic isn't it? Max 3k could be the real value i think and it's a lil optimistic also.

Yes, I said "for me".
That's why my asks are set way up.
I know a lot of people who agree.
Other people however, think it's the opposite and are selling their bitcoin right know to come the conclusion that they were stupid when bitcoin reach 1000 again Grin
But it is all personal opinion.
Good luck warrior!
688  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: Dogecoin Faucet list (TOP paying faucet) Updated daily on: January 24, 2015, 12:19:22 PM
to earn free Dogecoins and so much wow wow

go here and earn some Dogecoins

http://www.webtypeinfo.in/2015/01/doge-coin-faucet-list.html

This faucet list is updating now
to add your faucet in my list comment below

I think this message should be in the scamaltcoin section.
689  Economy / Economics / Re: The Future True Reference of Value on: January 24, 2015, 12:18:14 PM
“The universal reference” (Joohansson) would be what its observer most “demand[𝗌].”

That would be time I guess.
All the money of the world without time is useless.
690  Economy / Economics / Re: Is crypto as a financial investment doomed? on: January 24, 2015, 12:16:53 PM
There's no need for more than one cryptocurrency, and Bitcoin won that race.
^ this.

These times are just moments in history when people are figuring out what the best currency is while they already know but were too late to the game to get rich quick so they inject some hopium in their veins and gamble with some shitcoin in the hope they "earn" some bitcoin for it instead.
Don't be fooled, don't waste your time and energy.

Buy bitcoin, hold and get rewarded.

Or, speculate on some shitcoin knowing it will go to zero and try to rip off as many bitcoin as you can from those get rich quick people. But you have to like this game. I prefer the first.
691  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: D wave and the death of Bitcoin? on: January 24, 2015, 12:11:13 PM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1evQi9q1T-8


So how long before the NSA can crack Bitcoin?

Well, since they created the internet first, and then bicoin, they will probably find a fix for it as well. Wink
692  Other / Beginners & Help / Re: How many bitcoins is......... on: January 24, 2015, 12:10:14 PM
How many bitcoins is $30? What's the fastest way to get them besides of doing some kind of work, etc?

For me $30 is 0,001BTC
Other people think it is cheaper, but I disagree.

Stop looking at the exchange price and determine the price for yourself.
Looking at the exchange rate all the time will make you buy high and sell low.
693  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: I love bitcoin but there are some concerns (zero difficulty in the early days) on: January 24, 2015, 11:46:14 AM
If you really believe that a single man is able to fool all those people working on the code.. sure.

You must read what I wrote.
I do not believe it is/was a single man.

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Thus there can't be any evidence to support any theory.

So we end up having a broken chain which everybody is fine with
There is no evidence of a broken chain?
When there is only 1 computer mining and it gets turned off, the chain is broken in my opinion.


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I highly doubt that you're a developer.

I never said I was.
694  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: I love bitcoin but there are some concerns (zero difficulty in the early days) on: January 24, 2015, 11:44:10 AM
My apologies for naming trolls, but you seem so convinced of conspiracy that you are willing to make allegations without understanding. Dozens if not hundreds of coders have made contributions to Bitcoin and understand how it works, nothing that you postulate here could have gone unnoticed.

I just don't trust anything I don't fully understand. I know it fuels conspiracy thoughts, but I take that for granted.

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Here's one of the screenshots from early bitcoin that Satoshi used in documentation. It has addresses and transactions that are not seen in the release blockchain, but notably the dates are the same as the genesis block. The blockchain height is 213 blocks at that time though, so this may even be a chain using a genesis block before the Times headline. It is certainly expected that Bitcoin was tested privately in many iterations before it was released, with much discarded private mining.


Thanks! I appreciate your effort to look up the picture and post it.

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Don't put more money into any investment than you can lose. Bitcoin will keep working, but there's no guarantees of what others will pay you for one.

I know I know,  thanks for the reminder anyway.


695  Economy / Trading Discussion / Re: What makes someone a scammer? on: January 23, 2015, 01:57:54 PM
The human nature. If scam people is easy and have no risk ,then why not?

You do realize normal people don't think this way, right? There are a lot of reasons why not.

I think you've just identified a potential scammer Wink
696  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: I love bitcoin but there are some concerns (zero difficulty in the early days) on: January 23, 2015, 01:47:08 PM
I shouldn't respond to a troll OP, in fact I've managed to avoid responding to anyone for a while.

Thank you for calling me an idiot and troll. Love you too.
I come here to learn and ask. Excuse me for not knowing it all beforehand.

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There are no concerns.

OP is a fucking idiot if he thinks that Satoshi Nakamoto somehow had advance knowledge or could have planted the exact headline in the London Times.
 It is about a newsworthy event that didn't happen before that date.

What if Satoshi (the group) are the owners of the Times? Then he (they) at least had this information a few hours/days earlier than the rest of us. Again, I don't know what the implications could be, but it is a possibility which could be true.

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Bitcoin really doesn't need a timestamping event in the genesis block to work, but if you read the whitepaper the blockchain is referred to as a timestamping mechanism, so this crypto metaphor is likely why we even have the effort made.

This already sounds a lot better than a one liner "there are no concerns".
Thank you.

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The genesis block is special and must be created ahead of time, and incorporated into the code. The six days between the known headline date and the release of Bitcoin onto the Metzdown mailing list was certainly to run some testing chains that were then discarded. There is screenshot evidence of unpublished testing chains made before release that were on bitcoin.org.
The chain was not premined. We can see Hal Finney's release day correspondence and even debug.log posts from Jan 10 where the chain was on the same blocks we still have now.

This sounds like the stuff I'm looking for!
So basically you say there were already other chains made but abandoned.
Well, I don't really feel like an idiot when I came up with the same idea without knowing it beforehand Smiley
I will research the stuff you just said.

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The lowest difficulty is not 0, but 1.

Not according to my source

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What we have in Bitcoin is better than the coin release schedule of every get rich scamcoin since then.

You don't have to convince me about that. I'm already convinced about all other aspects.
The only concern that kept singing though my head was the zero difficulty because I did not understand it's possible implications.
It is an important thing for me to be sure of before I convert my remaining fiat into bitcoin.

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At least a good portion were released to interested and contributing cryptographers rather than big money that could already harness mining farms. There appears to be a distinct number of coins mined by a differently-coded "bare minimum" heartbeat miner run by Satoshi during early days that have never been spend and I feel never will be spent as he only seems to have spent coins made by the normal Bitcoin client.

I know that story as well, found it fascinating but does not concern me.
697  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: I love bitcoin but there are some concerns (zero difficulty in the early days) on: January 23, 2015, 01:04:35 PM
If you really believe that a single man is able to fool all those people working on the code.. sure.

You must read what I wrote.
I do not believe it is/was a single man.

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Thus there can't be any evidence to support any theory.

So we end up having a broken chain which everybody is fine with
698  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: I love bitcoin but there are some concerns (zero difficulty in the early days) on: January 23, 2015, 12:51:49 PM
Why would it even be a problem, if the genesis block was created earlier?

Zero difficulty days: Most likely, it was due to a bug, he had to fix before mining again. Also no problem there. There was nobody on the network at that time, who would care and it doesn't have any effect on the network today.

Your "coins hidden in a sidechain"-theory also seems like you just don't understand how bitcoin work.

I know pretty much about how bitcoin works but this might be something I don't understand enough to make the decision, that's why I made a topic.
I don't think it is a real problem either, but that's only based on a feeling.
I would like to see some math or other theory why this is not a problem to be totally convinced (just like I'm totally convinced about bitcoin for all other aspects).
I think a pretty simple way to look at it, is that the blockchain is just data.

Yes, but very special kind of data. There is value involved!

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So, your concern is, that a timestamp is not right(genesis block), and that there is some old data you don't like(zero difficulty days).
Working with databases for some years, I can tell you, that I see worse things all the time, when it comes to old data. I see data, that shouldn't be there, data that is by definition wrong, if people would have taken the time to implement that definitions, it wouldn't be there. So, I have to clean up that mess, often by guessing, what the right data might be or putting in random data, hoping that it wouldn't be a problem, since nobody most likely ever look at that old data.
The things you are talking about, are not per definition wrong.

Create the genesis block,
Mine one million trillion bitcoins and transfer them to some address.
Few days later present you genesis block to the world again and pretend there are only 50 coins created.
Everybody joins the club and forget about the broken chain.
200 years later, when the creators of bitcoin bought all the gold of the world they say tada: here you have another million trillion coins. /s

A broken chain doesn't feel right to me.
I just cannot figure what the maximum negative implications it could have.

Of course the chain is data. But your database problems are not involving value, it's only numbers.
What if giant banks have a problem in their database?
They cannot just fuck around in their database (I know they do) and pretend everything is ok.

The whole point of bitcoin is that the blockchain should be ledger which you can trust.



699  Economy / Trading Discussion / Re: What makes someone a scammer? on: January 23, 2015, 12:43:58 PM
What makes someone a scammer? what do u think?Huh??
Someone with an brain that functions other than most people.
They are a minority, don't worry. Smiley
700  Other / Beginners & Help / Re: How to setup a node in Ubuntu? on: January 23, 2015, 12:31:23 PM
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