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6941  Economy / Lending / Offering loans to new members straight out of newbie queue! on: January 23, 2013, 05:51:10 AM
Please post here to be promptly disregarded by everyone Smiley
6942  Economy / Auctions / Re: BMF / CPA / NYAN LIQUIDATION AUCTION on: January 23, 2013, 05:05:34 AM
ASICMINER 10 shares @ 0.23 BTC each
6943  Economy / Lending / Re: 2.5 BTC on: January 23, 2013, 05:01:36 AM
The amount of this loan made me think it was DPony asking for a loan to pay me back.. user profile doesn't seem like it.
6944  Economy / Scam Accusations / Bitcoin Scammer List on: January 23, 2013, 04:58:52 AM
I've being thinking about creating a website listing bitcoin scammers for the purposes of being indexed on search engines, so when someone (eg employer, parent) searches for "Bob Scamy" they'll see the listing somewhere on the search results. This would mean the site will need backlinks at the very least so it ranks high.

Currently, Google does not crawl the topics of bitcointalk very well (because there are so many of them).

Would any bitcoin website operator be interested in linking to a site if it existed?
6945  Economy / Lending / Re: looking to play the market on: January 23, 2013, 04:50:30 AM
thanks iv tried satoshi and i lik it alot but iv already lost nearly 4btc i bought from sum1. the gsme is cool and fun and i did win sum but in the end 2 me it still seemed lik gambling in a casino. sure i won sum but while applying the same stratagy at the end of the nite i had lost more then i won lol Smiley but thanks tho maby sumday ill mess around with satoshi sum more but 4 now id rather not gamble in such a literal sense lol

SatoshiDICE or any other gambling site with negative or breakeven EV should not be seen as a way to make profit.

Now, progressive jackpots with +EV is a different story.
6946  Economy / Lending / Re: Need 2 BTC - 12 Days on: January 23, 2013, 04:48:00 AM
for the one going on about investments and saying such returns bla bla bla. I make on adv rage 10% daily and can compound my earnings but that's a whole different ball game compared to btc.
Dragon's Tale am aware of and you shouldn't of even bothered with it..

Want some advise? If your in it for the profit side buy btc low sell high make a slow steady return if wanting to bank profit not "quick rich deals" and causing problems to other members loaning funds. It only damages your own credibility on here.

Hope you get everything worked out.


thanks for the tips Smiley
Lets hope bombartier gets home quick

Okay, sorry but I don't really care about your PMs or messages saying "I'm getting the coins soon" or whatever.

The deadline for the loan is on Jan 25th (forum time), I have not agreed to any extension.
6947  Economy / Speculation / Bitcoin price & Google Trends on: January 23, 2013, 03:41:56 AM
https://i.imgur.com/GwENNNJ.png

This picture sums it up pretty nicely Smiley

From reddit/r/bitcoin
6948  Economy / Gambling / Re: [ANN] BitMillions.com - 100% Automatic BlockChain based Lottery on: January 23, 2013, 01:23:25 AM
>  that can be verified by onebody

Anybody, right? Not onebody?
6949  Economy / Lending / Re: Need 2 BTC - 12 Days on: January 22, 2013, 12:19:27 PM
Made that days before the deal
of 5BTC

thats my backup plan Tongue
I wouldn't be doing that
either if I werent going
to pay it back


And. I would never
do anything like that.
I've learned enough from
the show never to try it either.





(User #127)    2013-01-21 17:56:01 UTC    Wave bye bye to your coins if you loan to this 13 year old deadbeat.

Anything you should share with us?

Lol, first time I used the site. Like my share?



The deadline isn't until Jan 28th??  Huh  Huh

Sent on Jan 13. Add 12 days, and you get Jan 25th.

I asked for extra 2 days didn't I?
and I got it Jan 14 in my country so Jan 28 on my country,
27 on yours Smiley

I just checked the PMs and I don't see it. I saw a PM from you assuming the due date is the 30th and that you'll check the thread.
6950  Economy / Economics / Re: Article: PayPal: 'Aggressive changes' coming to frozen funds policy on: January 22, 2013, 12:10:39 PM
Given it's paypal, I'd guess something like "We will now charge you $599 for speedy expedition to reduce the frozen time from 180 days to just 90 days!"
6951  Economy / Services / Re: DP's Amateur Services on: January 22, 2013, 10:55:00 AM
The deadline's not until January 28.

Please read before any assumptions.
It's what gets people to look stupid.
The deadline is Jan 25th actually
6952  Economy / Service Discussion / Re: Mt Gox Hacked - lost it all today... now what!? on: January 22, 2013, 09:38:08 AM
Even just offering the option to assign one pre-determined bitcoin address would provide an equivalent level of security, even if you did no PGP automation whatsoever.  The pre-determined bitcoin address could either be a) withdrawn to directly, or b) for those who know how to sign messages, it could be used to sign a message that permits withdrawal to some other address.  All of this could be evaluated in any environment already accustomed to working with bitcoin keypairs.

We could easily add the "limit to one bitcoin address" thing, but there is a problem with the bitcoin message signature process that makes it difficult to implement (last time I checked the bitcoin message signature uses a different way of signing compared to transactions to make shorter signatures, but it's been an issue).

Add optional "withdraw to one address only".

Add 48 hour delay before changing the addresses, during which you'd get two emails, and see a giant warning when you log in.
6953  Economy / Trading Discussion / Re: I have Bitcoin. Want to buy anonymously with credit card or Paypal. Where to go? on: January 22, 2013, 09:18:00 AM
You can use our site. See my sig.
http://btcquick.com/ocart/index.php?route=product/category&path=64
Nothing here. Actually, did you understand that I don't want to buy, but sell bitcoins?

Well, you will want to deal with trusted people or entities.

I can buy your coins at 96%. I don't need them, but if you really want to sell your coins and can't find a better deal, feel free to pm
6954  Economy / Scam Accusations / Re: BBDD- bitcoinberudechange.com on: January 22, 2013, 08:39:34 AM
SCAM SCAM SCAM SCAM SCAM SCAM

Seriously. DO NOT FALL FOR THIS SCAM. Please investigate prime14k too.
6955  Economy / Scam Accusations / Re: Josh Zerlan & Butterfly Labs paid or bot downvoting Reddit video of his outburst on: January 22, 2013, 08:37:11 AM
I'm not sure if this helps or not, but reddit has algorithms in place to help remove votes created by bots. As a part of this algorithm, accounts without a clear history of contributions will have their upvotes counted as downvotes in some cases. This is why you see SA goons on the bitcoin reddit posting nonsense all the time (it's to help bring their karma up so that they can mass downvote better).

This may or may not have been the case here.

Leave how you came as you've said. Your input is shit scammer.  Cheesy

Do you know who helped design the security features in the checks and money you use?

Scammers! If it's just my input that's not welcome in the thread and not another person with this tag, then I'll gladly stop posting if the OP wishes me too. Thank you for reminding me to be humble about my past mistakes. It will take some time to live down I know.

Actually, reddit has a number of systems in place.

Vote normalization - voting is heavily normalized so top posts get around 2,000 to 3,000 upvotes. In reality, those posts actually can have 15,000 or more score (upvotes - downvotes), it is just that reddit admins keep the scores low for 3 reasons:

1) Less numbers are easier to compare
2) Keeping people thinking reddit is an exclusive club when it's the one of top 100 sites.
3) Allowing comparison of "topness" over time - otherwise, top posts would pretty much be composed of all recent posts, since there are more and more users (& upvotes)

This can be observed with posts before normalization (for example, "Test post please ignore" which was before normalization was put into place), and the normalization engine only works after the first hour is up (and the score is no longer hidden on the left). Steve Jobs' death had a score of 9,000 before the 1 hour mark, to which it was promptly normalized.

On r/TheoryOfReddit, there's being analysis of top submission's score, and it sharply went to ~2400 in a month and has being there ever since (give or take a few hundred).

Spam vote detection
Obviously a lot of factors goes into this, and it's hard to reverse engineer. But "accounts without a clear history of contributions" will not have their upvotes counted as downvotes. That is another behavior, it happens when you vote a series of times rapidly without browsing new pages. Voting up will counter it with an automatic downvote (1 - 1 = 0), voting down will counter it with an automatic upvote (-1 + 1 = 0). This is mistakenly taken as "if you downvote on profile pages, it doesn't count" because it is not just profile pages that trigger that.

Buying Reddit Upvotes/Downvotes
Yes, there are bots that do this. Yes, they are still around. Yes, you pay money for them.

The example in this trend fits in a lot of the signs of paid for downvotes.
6956  Economy / Currency exchange / Re: Need A Currency Exchanger On Skype on: January 22, 2013, 08:01:31 AM
Seriously? DON'T TRADE PAYPAL. End of story.
6957  Economy / Securities / Re: [LTC-GLOBAL] Devil's Advocate presents: The Moderator's Union on: January 22, 2013, 05:54:23 AM
The recent thread on what criteria a LTC-GLOBAL moderator should use got me thinking.

What if a group of LTC-GLOBAL moderators self-organized and formed a company that provided contractual advice services to people trying to get listed on BTC-TC and/or LTC-GLOBAL? It would, essentially, be a small group of LTC-GLOBAL moderators who, for a small fee, would analyze a contract and come up with a list of (standard) criteria that they would want to see before they would approve the security. Of course, such a group of people would not be the only moderators capable of clearing a security. Any asset issuer would be free to try to list without the services of said fictional group.

But for those interested in paying a brireasonable fee, it would provide a one-stop-shop for not only getting approved, but also making sure your contract fixed up and beautified, and made acceptable to the community.

And possibly providing other services such as big bro ongoing oversight or accounting and financial reports.

Of course, buying such a service would not guarantee that you would get cleared for listing. Members would be free to vote as they see fit. I'm sure their paycheque from the company wouldn't influence their decision at all.

I have no intention or desire to set something like this up, but I have set up something similar for GLBSE actually. I'm just wondering what burnside (and other LTC-GLOBAL) moderators think of the idea.

You can always go with other bitcoin exchanges and talk to the owners on IRC Smiley
6958  Economy / Securities / Re: [BTC-TC] Virtual Securities Exchange now with Dividend Reinvestment Program on: January 22, 2013, 05:52:49 AM
Just looking back through and saw the OP still lists 0.01 BTC withdrawal fee, figured you may want to update that, if not other parts. I was wondering though how the bitcoind is factored in. Is there any confirmation about whether it will or will not be added for a particular withdrawal, can you choose to delay payment to decrease (or eliminate) the fee (either just waiting, or grouping with other withdrawals)? And is it just based off of the servers hot wallet (which is even harder to control)?

Not saying it's a bad idea, just wondering if an individual can predict if it will be there or not.

Good question, and thanks for the note about the first post, I'll get that fixed.

Right now the hot wallet bitcoind is mostly stock.  I say mostly because I have done some very minor (non-core) customizing to it.  As such, I seem to only be able to get the actual fee out of the RPC interface after the transaction has been made.  (any bitcoind pros please let me know if there's something I'm missing!)

It has been a point of much confusion and frustration.  For example, I reserve 0.005 from the balance in case there's a fee, but the other day someone withdrew something like ~0.070 and ended up with a 0.020 fee, leaving their account negative 0.015.  Doh.  A few slightly negative accounts are not a huge deal, but what if 1000 people had that happen to them?  It starts to be an issue.  I'm not sure yet what the answer is... maybe a 0.1 BTC reserve?

The other option I've been looking into is the zero transaction fee patch.  It seems to have some gotcha's though.  For instance they recommend minimum transfers of 0.01 BTC and they still recommend adding a fee manually when there are lots of inputs.  Is there anyone out there with a lot of experience running this on a decent sized site?  Maybe I should just email the BTC-e guys or something.  Smiley

Cheers.




You can always craft your own raw transaction, but that's quite complicated. bitcoin really needs quite a few more APIs, but some of the core developers seem to want to go with the "no extra features unless it's absolutely necessary, go make your own client" route.
6959  Economy / Lending / Re: looking to play the market on: January 22, 2013, 05:47:36 AM
lol I know no one will probably want to help but I had to try I've been watching the market go up and down up and down and its like a gold mine right now for someone willing to just sit there and go back forth 20cents or so but none the less I don't have enough to really gain any profit lol. I'm still kinda new to this so I'm open to any suggestions or anything that might help someone feel more sucure about lending me any btc
Umm, no, trading is not as simple as that.

What happens when you buy btc at $15.90, two hours later they become $15.50?

What happens when you sell btc at $16.50, and then two hours later they become $17.02?

It's like a lot of people sold BTC at the $13 mark and now are hating themselves since BTC continued to grow.

If you show results (screenshots of trade logs), experience with trading, etc, then I'm sure some people will be interested in a loan. But.. right now, there's a high chance that you're not going to make any profit and instead lose your creditor's money.
6960  Economy / Lending / Re: 6 Bitcoin Loan on: January 22, 2013, 05:44:19 AM
Confirmed payment of 1 bitcoin - thank you!

Current outstanding balance: 4 btc
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