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701  Economy / Gambling / Re: Roobet.com | Crypto’s Fastest Growing Casino 🦘 on: October 24, 2023, 12:46:47 PM
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People are to much-blaming bot, and asking about KYC.

Even with (KYC) the code promotion are still gonna to be empty in just under few mins, It's not always about KYC things. Even they add (KYC), with just Level 1 you can easily to get ID especially on third-country (It's-cheap).

Total member, follower and other factor should be consider. If people are angry with 1-2$ promotion, there has something wrong with that people (You're addicted to gambler).

Oh damn the KYC argument started here as well? After chasing various threads of popular gambling sites one thing is sure; peeps are not reading the terms and conditions before they enter into gambling site. Literally they should make it mandatory to every user to go through ToS section. In that also they should make a system that will pop up small window stating that there exists KYC requirements in some cases. This should pop now and then so that every user can read and understand what they are doing and what’s waiting for them after certain limits of gambling.

This seems to be best idea so far. Without this “those” users will be complaining all the time. They better start this in every casino.

that is a really frequent discussion in this topic
it comes and goes but it's often here

most of the times the comment is: KYC is useless but the house makes its rules and if you want to play you have to abide by them.

simple as that
702  Local / Português (Portuguese) / Re: MEGATHREAD - os livros que o bitcointalk lê on: October 24, 2023, 12:32:30 PM


Obrigado... quando não tiver preguiça leio...  Tongue

Mas, já li algumas informações sobre o livro, o que eu questiono sempre é que normalmente essas ideias não indicam uma forma da pessoa obter dinheiro para o dia a dia. Ou neste caso ele apresenta um plano?

Não vou falar sobre isso. Para saber você terá que ler o livro. Vai ver por ser genro do Karl Marx, idealizador do "comunismo", ele vai dar a sugestão de "comer cachorro" caso falte comida. Como muita gente acredita aqui no Brasil que aconteça isso no "comunismo". No Brasil, muita gente tem pavor do "fantasma do comunismo", e nem sabe o que seja o comunismo e se realmente ele chegou a ser implantado por completo em algum lugar do planeta.  Cheesy Cheesy

Paredao, comunismo não funciona

tem muita literatura sobre isso já, um que gosto é "O caminho da servidão", é bem pequeno, mas denso

de toda forma, insistir no erro não vai levar a gente a um lugar novo
em termos de encontrar novos sistemas acho que o que o Balaji fala no The Network State vale a pena ser ouvido

não acho que iremos deixar os sistemas capitalisticos tão cedo mas confio na utopia de conseguir através dele criar um sistema mais justo com o tempo.



200 últimas páginas do Irmãos Karamázov e agora tá muito maneiro!
703  Local / Português (Portuguese) / Re: Argentina acaba de imprimir o equivalente a 449 containers de cédulas de Peso on: October 23, 2023, 01:59:02 PM
<...>

Não sei como a Argentina ainda existe, o histórico de inflação deles é alto há muitas décadas.

a prova de que um país não se faz só por seu dinheiro e hiperinflação (ou quase) não é o suficiente para perder a soberania nacional

sempre que vejo essas notícias me lembro daquele funk que algum dia ainda vai ser lançado:

"imprime imprime imprime imprime imprime imprime

o governo tá printando
cantillon tá caprichado
esse efeito esperado
é nota de 1000 no seu ****.

Você entra no mercado
e tá tudo muito caro
mas na mesa do planalto
lagosta, salmão, linguado

...
"
algo nessas linhas
704  Economy / Gambling / Re: Duelbits.com | Casino & Sportsbook | VIP | Instant withdrawals!|ARGENTINA & AVFC on: October 23, 2023, 01:47:43 PM
What happened to Duelbits contests which were easily some of the most popular contests in this forum sometime back? Their multiplier battles were really entertaining and attracted a lot of attention.
It just stopped. Maybe it was not as effective as before in attracting new and existing users to play. But it was really fun on joining to such competitions specially if you knew that how reputable the manager and the casino are.

I think because they focus on tournaments event on social media to have a better scope compared to Bitcointalk which has a limited participants. Their social media giveaway and contest is very popular due to their strong community. They stop tournaments here in the forum after they consistently doing this on social media.

We are still bless that Duelbits still consider the forum as valuable place to promote due to their huge campaign budget weekly.

this is a good point too
even though bitcointalk is a niche community with a probably higher than average income and participation in crypto markets (bell curve slightly more over the left in terms of income than other niches due to early adopters), it's still small
you can have a much bigger reach using traditional social media like X or intstagram, youtube, tik tok.
True, if your a casino, you would want to have new gamblers or aspiring gamblers to start and gamble in your casino. Social media are the platforms to reach them since there are probably thousands of reach in a single post, what more if you boost the promotion you have on social media and reach millions. It is proven that doing promotions there is effective and can really improve your daily average players. Though promoting here doesn't mean throwing away promotion money since the forum will mostly talk about the casino also motivates the forum members to play and trust the casino, thus increase the reputation due to testimonies of current and past gamblers who experienced gambling in the casino.

I often wonder how profitable it is for the casino owners to run the promotions here on bitcointalk
probably profitable
but there are also some consequential gains that don't come directly from new players depositing but from things like getting a better SEO position on google, so forth and so on.
I sometimes do ask myself the same question, but i have always come to the conclusion that, if this wasn't profitable for the casinos, and other companies promoting their brand and services on this forum, then they probably won't be doing it.
The promotions, or advertisements on this forum is not about or particularly for the users of this forum, but also for those out there, since the forum is SEO friendly, people searching things on google and other search engines are likely to find themselves on this forum, and such a person is already a potential customer of any of the brands or services being advertised on this forum.


as everything, capitalism also has bad sides, but this is one that I really like about it
bad models go broke.
so, yeah, they're probably profitable, not tracking correctly, or interested in keeping a presence here regardless of being profitable (not direct profit but subjective)
705  Local / Português (Portuguese) / Re: [SORTEIO2] 0.00062 BTC por um novo tópico on: October 20, 2023, 03:07:25 PM
a ideia de cada criador do sorteio determinar as variáveis é interessante pq com tempo vamos ter várias situações para estudar e ver o que funcionou melhor ou pior em alguma medida, o que foi mais interessante.

gosto disso.

ah, se for um modelo dessa forma como no seu quote imagino que dê pouco problema @TryNinja
706  Local / Português (Portuguese) / Re: Dados de merit da nossa aba local on: October 20, 2023, 02:57:57 PM
Eu tenho humildes 5, ganhei 2 e já distribui.... acho que no meu caso será praticamente impossível evoluir meus merits aqui heheheheh, mas o intuito é participar, o resto se tiver que ser, será.

olha, tem muita coisa que podemos argumentar se é impossível ou não.
ganhar merits e rankear no bitcointalk não é uma delas

se você mantiver a frequência, trouxer valor pro forum, contribuir com ideias e posts, vai crescer, inevitavelmente.
707  Local / Português (Portuguese) / Re: Usuário do bitcointalk preso com US$ 3 bilhões em BTC on: October 20, 2023, 02:43:51 PM
caraca que história surreal
o cara tem bilhões roubados guardados em casa na lata de pipoca e por conta de um roubo de milhões (ladrão que rouba ladrão...) chama a polícia justamente pra onde tem a prova de seu crime guardada e confia cegamente que a polícia, braço armado do estado, não teria inteligência para identificar seu roubo e roubá-lo

meh
708  Economy / Gambling / Re: Duelbits.com | Casino & Sportsbook | VIP | Instant withdrawals!|ARGENTINA & AVFC on: October 20, 2023, 02:32:34 PM
What happened to Duelbits contests which were easily some of the most popular contests in this forum sometime back? Their multiplier battles were really entertaining and attracted a lot of attention.
It just stopped. Maybe it was not as effective as before in attracting new and existing users to play. But it was really fun on joining to such competitions specially if you knew that how reputable the manager and the casino are.

I think because they focus on tournaments event on social media to have a better scope compared to Bitcointalk which has a limited participants. Their social media giveaway and contest is very popular due to their strong community. They stop tournaments here in the forum after they consistently doing this on social media.

We are still bless that Duelbits still consider the forum as valuable place to promote due to their huge campaign budget weekly.

this is a good point too
even though bitcointalk is a niche community with a probably higher than average income and participation in crypto markets (bell curve slightly more over the left in terms of income than other niches due to early adopters), it's still small
you can have a much bigger reach using traditional social media like X or intstagram, youtube, tik tok.
True, if your a casino, you would want to have new gamblers or aspiring gamblers to start and gamble in your casino. Social media are the platforms to reach them since there are probably thousands of reach in a single post, what more if you boost the promotion you have on social media and reach millions. It is proven that doing promotions there is effective and can really improve your daily average players. Though promoting here doesn't mean throwing away promotion money since the forum will mostly talk about the casino also motivates the forum members to play and trust the casino, thus increase the reputation due to testimonies of current and past gamblers who experienced gambling in the casino.

I often wonder how profitable it is for the casino owners to run the promotions here on bitcointalk
probably profitable
but there are also some consequential gains that don't come directly from new players depositing but from things like getting a better SEO position on google, so forth and so on.
709  Economy / Gambling / Re: Roobet.com | Crypto’s Fastest Growing Casino 🦘 on: October 20, 2023, 02:21:02 PM

these giveaways on twitter are often more about the engagement farming for the twitter owner than anything else
it's nice because all have a really tiny chance to win but what they get in free publicity and organic reach is usually enough reason for them to share a prize.

web 2 games.

There have been a lot of discussions about this, but I still wonder if you attract a lot of people (or a new audience) with posting these giveaways on Twitter/Telegram? They are dominated by bots and you need to be extremely quick and lucky to win a small prize. You will get views as everybody loves free stuff but I doubt it is really effective.
Maybe this is just an extension of their advertising mate as the team focusing in all platforms that may generates more players.
not only in twitter and Telegram , there are also streamers that building their name outside this forum ,but i do believe that those social media platforms are already dominated by bot anf cheaters.
joining those for me is  really a hard to win chances .

this
but some ads are for player acquisition but there are also ads for player retention, for remaining top-of-mind in your market even if you're not getting new players, so forth and so on.
twitter is still the best places for them to be because it's more open, youtube and facebook/instagram usually give lots of bans for casino and gambling content
710  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: do you lose on slots? on: October 19, 2023, 06:14:48 PM
----

Almost all the rules you mentioned will attract gamblers and get rid of losses. Gamblers who are more addicted to casinos are afraid of losing money, but if you follow these rules and guidelines, you can certainly avoid losses to some extent. But especially the spins should not be given repeatedly on the same machine because different places must be tried so that the luck varies. Of course there is the possibility of losing when indulging in casino, but you should also change the machines to protect yourself from losses.

Playing slots depends on luck, so if someone feels like they don't have any luck, they should immediately stop playing slots before losing all their money. Slot games can make many gamblers lose all their money because slot games tempt gamblers to try to get big multipliers, and even gamblers have to use a lot of their money. But if they don't have their luck, they won't be able to win and will lose all their money. So be careful if you play slots, and always pay attention to the time and money limits to stop the game before the money runs out.

Everyone has the same luck, it's just time that makes a difference, there are those who have won big in the first game and there are also those who have won in the second or third game. In essence, luck is not present every time we gamble.

So what you say is true, that it is bad behavior to spend the money we have on just one game. Slot games are the easiest type of game for us to play, because in playing this type of gambling we are not required to have special skills or special knowledge in playing it. When playing this type of gambling, we are only required to have good self-control because this type of gambling has a fairly high level of risk of loss, where you can experience losses in just a few rounds.

thinking everyone has the same luck is a really mathematical way to see the world but I don't think it works like that, in my youth I met a guy who was younger than me and used to win almost all raffles and "bingos" he joined
he got lots of televisions, travels, house utensils and all kind of stuff by winning these contests all based in luck, no skill

I don't talk to him anymore so I'm not sure if he's still lucky or not but it was definitely not normal

quite nice to see though
711  Local / Português (Portuguese) / Re: MEGATHREAD - os livros que o bitcointalk lê on: October 19, 2023, 05:23:46 PM

Obrigado... quando não tiver preguiça leio...  Tongue

Mas, já li algumas informações sobre o livro, o que eu questiono sempre é que normalmente essas ideias não indicam uma forma da pessoa obter dinheiro para o dia a dia. Ou neste caso ele apresenta um plano?

pra que dinheiro? achei que era só tirar dos ricos, redistribuir pros pobres e vivermos numa distribuição igualitária e justa, quem quer trabalhar, trabalha, quem não quer não trabalha
e a roda do mundo continuar girando?

[contém ironia]
[o buraco é mais embaixo e problemas complexos raramente são resolvidos com soluções simples]
712  Economy / Gambling / Re: Roobet.com | Crypto’s Fastest Growing Casino 🦘 on: October 19, 2023, 05:04:45 PM

these giveaways on twitter are often more about the engagement farming for the twitter owner than anything else
it's nice because all have a really tiny chance to win but what they get in free publicity and organic reach is usually enough reason for them to share a prize.

web 2 games.

There have been a lot of discussions about this, but I still wonder if you attract a lot of people (or a new audience) with posting these giveaways on Twitter/Telegram? They are dominated by bots and you need to be extremely quick and lucky to win a small prize. You will get views as everybody loves free stuff but I doubt it is really effective.

it's a numbers game after all
like a funnel
you reach 1000X, 100X join the giveaway, 10X comment, 1X become costumers, 0.01 X become top users

probably 1 top user already pays for this kind of competition with prizes up to 500 usd...

713  Economy / Gambling / Re: Duelbits.com | Casino & Sportsbook | VIP | Instant withdrawals!|ARGENTINA & AVFC on: October 19, 2023, 04:50:06 PM
What happened to Duelbits contests which were easily some of the most popular contests in this forum sometime back? Their multiplier battles were really entertaining and attracted a lot of attention.
It just stopped. Maybe it was not as effective as before in attracting new and existing users to play. But it was really fun on joining to such competitions specially if you knew that how reputable the manager and the casino are.

I think because they focus on tournaments event on social media to have a better scope compared to Bitcointalk which has a limited participants. Their social media giveaway and contest is very popular due to their strong community. They stop tournaments here in the forum after they consistently doing this on social media.

We are still bless that Duelbits still consider the forum as valuable place to promote due to their huge campaign budget weekly.

this is a good point too
even though bitcointalk is a niche community with a probably higher than average income and participation in crypto markets (bell curve slightly more over the left in terms of income than other niches due to early adopters), it's still small
you can have a much bigger reach using traditional social media like X or intstagram, youtube, tik tok.
714  Local / Português (Portuguese) / Re: Cédula de 50 Reais está circulando e contem seed contendo 0,03 BTC on: October 19, 2023, 04:29:58 PM
haha divertido
alguma ideia de em qual estado está circulando a nota e se foi numa cidade grande ou pequena?
experimento social bem interessante

Nessas alturas, o Banco Central já recolheu essa nota "rasurada" e mandou destruir. Mania essa do pessoal querer inventar de escrever em cédulas e esquecem esse pequeno detalhe. O sujeito vai pegar essa cédula e nem vai saber o que significa. Vai na Agencia da Caixa ou Banco do Brasil, troca a Nota e de lá mandam para o Banco Central. Ai, entra no lote de cédulas a serem destruídas por rasura.

Sim... também acho, tendo em conta que a coisa já foi há um ano atras.
Isto é malta nova, que não percebe como funciona o fiat físico.

Notas rasgadas, rasuradas e afins, assim que chegam a um banco, são logo retiradas de circulação. Outra curiosidade, sabiam rasurar ou rasgar uma nota, é crime? É considerado violar propriedade do Estado.

o amigo do amigo do primo do pai de santo do terreiro que a mãe da nova namorada da minha ex-mulher frequenta costumava fazer carimbos e carimbar todas as notas que recebia com

"valor =\= preço"

eu achava legal.

desobediência civil beeeem leve né.
nada de absurdo

mas sim, eu tava sabendo que era crime

Pois é tudo depende de qual caminho esta nota tomou, pode passar de mão em mão infinitamente caso for usada em comércios mais informais e entre pessoas físicas, mas se a pessoa usou ela em um grande super mercado por exemplo existe uma grande chance de ter sido recolhida pelo carro forte e ido parar no banco e ai já tem uma probabilidade enorme de ser encaminhada para o banco central.

alguma ideia se esse processo de encaminhar notas rasuradas pro BC acontece em todas as notas depositadas numa análise automatizada, ou só em algumas?
fico curioso de saber mais do sistema também
715  Local / Português (Portuguese) / Re: Dados de merit da nossa aba local on: October 18, 2023, 04:27:31 PM
Merit ratio segue em queda. Apesar do aumento de posts.

Já demos uma melhoria face ao mês anterior. Mas, estamos um pouco longe dos melhores meses.

Temos de perder a vergonha de clicar no botão "merit". Está mensagem também é para mim!

não é nem vergonha
é escassez mesmo
eu por aqui tenho 13 sMerits sobrando e acabo guardando eles mais para quem ainda não é legendary (eu sei, eu sei, já falamos sobre os prós e contras disso)

como a maioria dos postadores aqui na nossa aba já está bem rankeado fico juntando, mesmo assim nunca tenho muito mais que isso.

716  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: do you lose on slots? on: October 18, 2023, 03:57:13 PM
----

Almost all the rules you mentioned will attract gamblers and get rid of losses. Gamblers who are more addicted to casinos are afraid of losing money, but if you follow these rules and guidelines, you can certainly avoid losses to some extent. But especially the spins should not be given repeatedly on the same machine because different places must be tried so that the luck varies. Of course there is the possibility of losing when indulging in casino, but you should also change the machines to protect yourself from losses.

Playing slots depends on luck, so if someone feels like they don't have any luck, they should immediately stop playing slots before losing all their money. Slot games can make many gamblers lose all their money because slot games tempt gamblers to try to get big multipliers, and even gamblers have to use a lot of their money. But if they don't have their luck, they won't be able to win and will lose all their money. So be careful if you play slots, and always pay attention to the time and money limits to stop the game before the money runs out.

the luck goddess is a tricky one
she likes to hide sometimes, and then out of nowhere is present to please.

you can't trust her
but when she comes it's all fun and games.

always nice to hear her stories and learn on how different cultures personificated her
have you ever read about Tyche?
717  Economy / Gambling / Re: Roobet.com | Crypto’s Fastest Growing Casino 🦘 on: October 18, 2023, 03:38:55 PM
There is currently a giveaway going on Twitter where you can have a chance to win $50 and you only have to guess the number for it which is worth taking part so here try your luck whosoever is interested in it

https://twitter.com/Roobet/status/1714134820278984796?t=LgC4XJzHHFrBrtWFSC9Low&s=19
ohh. so they are now focusing their giveaways in twitter this is also the reason why they did not bring any of their past guessing in our humble games and rounds section.

Have you win any of those games in  twitter mate? thanks for sharing here I will partake of course now.
I don't think so this is the reason as Twitter giveaways were always there and they might have added more options like this but guessing bets was different thing where you have to make some calculations based on 24 hour bet system but still good opportunity if you want to take part in it.
Of course, too large an audience of players makes the opportunity to win very unlikely. 
And the more people who want to participate, the likelihood of winning naturally decreases. 
But it would be great if the devs Roobet.com would use a slightly different bonus system for the draw they organize - a system that is a little more interesting for the players.  I mean that, for example, if the number of applications is 200, then there is 1 win, if it increases and becomes more than 300, a second win appears, then after 500 a third, and so on.  I would call this system dynamic priz es.
 It seems to me that the players will like this, but for the casino it most likely will not have much impact on the advertising budget, if everything is calculated correctly.

these giveaways on twitter are often more about the engagement farming for the twitter owner than anything else
it's nice because all have a really tiny chance to win but what they get in free publicity and organic reach is usually enough reason for them to share a prize.

web 2 games.
718  Economy / Gambling / Re: Duelbits.com | Casino & Sportsbook | VIP | Instant withdrawals!|ARGENTINA & AVFC on: October 18, 2023, 03:27:24 PM
regarding the scam accusations
maybe duelbits could create a costumer support topic here in the forum separate from this one but not sure if this would work

The scam accusation board works perfectly for this type issue since each unique issue can be raised on different thread to avoid mixed up. It’s their right to express their feelings towards the casino here since this is a general discussion for Duelbits to make everyone aware for such case.

Also there’s no force user to post on the separate thread if there will be since this thread is not a self-moderated thread. Anyone is free to here tho.

yes, my main concern is that many false scam accusations end up clogging the main thread
but you are right, the thread is self-moderated so mods could delete and instruct users to post in the right board if this was an issue
no big deal
well it is nowadays that people or OP starts using self moderated threads , because in the past if the Casino ANN Thread created as Self Moderated , mostly being judged as scammy or fishy one , because they are not giving fair treat from legit posters and the issue related posts.
but indeed that all of the casino thread must be Self moderated as we have separate board for all concerns like scam or reputations.
this will clean up the mess , but also if you have nothing to hide? then
there is no need for moderation instead what they need is to address and show proof of fake complaints , and resolve if the issue is true and valid.
though if we are talking about Duelbits? i don't think there is a need to doubt as they have proven their name for years now.

at this point Duelbits has enough testimonials and track record for people not to discredit it due to the thread being self-moderated or not
but you are right, this idea totally applies for new casinos
If I was advertising a new casino here in the forum I'd probably opt for an open thread instead of self-moderated.
719  Local / Português (Portuguese) / Re: MEGATHREAD - os livros que o bitcointalk lê on: October 18, 2023, 03:15:50 PM
pronto Joker
eu to bem sem preguiça essa semana

dá pra encontrar o livro no libgen, é pequeno, 52 páginas nessa versão aqui

agora engrenei nos Irmãos Karamázov, me faltam pouco mais de 200 páginas para acabar

a fila de livros tá enorme aqui, depois dele acho que pego algum curto para desanuviar e pelo hit de dopamina ao acabar de ler um livro novo
e aí devo mergulhar no capitalismo de vigilância que já quero ler faz um tempo

um que quero e ainda não comprei é o "utopia para realistas" também
720  Local / Português (Portuguese) / Re: Como você lidaria com um novo estilo visual no bitcointalk? on: October 17, 2023, 07:33:44 PM
Eu pessoalmente acho que faz muita falta aquela funcionalidade do "Multi-Quote". Outra cena é a questão de as imagens não funcionarem out-of-the-box a não ser que usemos o site do @joker_josue, o Talkimg.com.
De resto acho que qualuer alteração visual é facilmente absorvida pelos users!

o que faço para fazer multi quote é abrir numa nova aba, recortar e colar
mas realmente, uma ferramente built-in para isso poderia ser interessante

eu acho dificil ver as postagens pelo inser quote então quando vou comentar costumo abrir uma aba nova paralela a aba principal sem o comentário.



não tinha ouvido falar do epochtalk e achei super interessante
doidera ver os custos em btc lá nos primórdios também



concordo que uma otimização para rodar melhor no mobile, principalmente em questão de visualização das postagens e formatação, seria muito bom
mas fora isso também gosto do forum clássico aqui do jeitinho que já estamos acostumados.
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