Since everything looks to have locked in (funds for development). Will trading continue freely on exchanges after ITO is officially finished?
Thanks
Yes, and if funds are to be returned to investors, we'll place buy walls on exchanges (including CoinGateway) so that people can redeem their BLOCK. |
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i heard bittrex is putting a buywall up for block. is this happening for all the exchanges or are they the only one? and what if we bought with another coin? any offical info on all this?
The 48 hour buy wall will only be on Bittrex. After that, the amount of funds raised will be calculated. It the total is lower that 850 BTC, then all funds will be returned to investors. We're releasing full details on this today. |
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Koontas: banned for 24 hours.
McHammer: banned completely.
As Cryptico said, "byeeeee".
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Can someone confirm when the ITO ends is it 5th November at 23:59 EST or PST?
23:59:59 PDT. (That's 8am GMT.) |
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This has become, by far, the most POINTLESS announcement thread of all time.
Why is there basically NO information in the OP? Not even a link to the shitty website...
Still no running total of BTC invested for people to see...
And, best of all, 177 pages of bullshit to read through to find the little information that is actually out there.
You guys have some serious work to do. Time to get back on track already.
The OP will be updated asap. In the meantime I encourage you to exercise some sympathetic patience for the team. I've barely slept in the past week. There's been a lot to do. Patience? When the ICO is about to end and you have little information readily available to encourage investors? The only thing I see you doing is fighting FUD. Delete the shit, stop arguing with every troll, and work on something that matters. This isn't a vote. Address people with civility here or leave. |
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This has become, by far, the most POINTLESS announcement thread of all time.
Why is there basically NO information in the OP? Not even a link to the shitty website...
Still no running total of BTC invested for people to see...
And, best of all, 177 pages of bullshit to read through to find the little information that is actually out there.
You guys have some serious work to do. Time to get back on track already.
The OP will be updated asap. In the meantime I encourage you to exercise some sympathetic patience for the team. I've barely slept in the past week. There's been a lot to do. |
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Is the v1 mixer a decentralised trustless mixer?
No, it's a trusted mixer. You may have missed my previous reply to this topic, where I stated that any further posts that lack new information (i.e. facts) will be deleted. Because of this, I will now delete your previous post. Also, any further posts dwelling on notions introduced in the smear campaign will be deleted. If you don't like this, put them in another FUD thread where they belong. We've all had quite enough deceit of late. |
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Youngmike, you are banned from this thread.
Don't post here again or I will request that you get banned from the entire forum.
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Benthach, you have two options: - Delete your FUD thread against the SDC dev. - Or get banned from this thread. It's your choice. The Blocknet will have absolutely nothing to do with FUD whatsoever. If you spread FUD, you will be permanently banned. |
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183 lines of code?? cīmon... The ITO is to fund development. Funds first, code later. If people don't like this, they shouldn't buy BLOCK. Nonetheless we created the Github repo early in order to build trust with the community. It's an open source project and we want to indicate this, and also allow coders to get involved if they want to. You sir have my respect for all what You are doing here, but You canīt be serious with this statement. This is crypto and You generally asked for $1m.. I am aslo pretty sure that there was some statement that "most xbridge code is already wroten" in this thread, but I donīt have a time to dig for it. I stated that part of the XBridge code is. In addition to the code in the repo, there's the Xnode code. This will be incorporated (in modified form) into the XBridge code at a later stage. Ethereum doesn't exist, yet they got a whole lot of BTC. Why? Because they have an incredible idea. Same applies here. Well it was not so hard:  As to Ethereum - They have Vitalik Buterin, among others well known and respected ppl. Furthermore they have quite well working proof of concept. Thanks for finding that. Nice one. Well, I hope that there'll be an Blocknet-enabled Ethereum wallet before long. Makes every bit of sense. |
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Rynomster is not the Cinni dev. He was contracted to develop Cinni's EM. That's all. Do not bash the SDC devs. They were not involved in the smear campaign. |
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183 lines of code?? cīmon... The ITO is to fund development. Funds first, code later. If people don't like this, they shouldn't buy BLOCK. Nonetheless we created the Github repo early in order to build trust with the community. It's an open source project and we want to indicate this, and also allow coders to get involved if they want to. You sir have my respect for all what You are doing here, but You canīt be serious with this statement. This is crypto and You generally asked for $1m.. I am aslo pretty sure that there was some statement that "most xbridge code is already wroten" in this thread, but I donīt have a time to dig for it. I stated that part of the XBridge code is. In addition to the code in the repo, there's the Xnode code. This will be incorporated (in modified form) into the XBridge code at a later stage. Ethereum doesn't exist, yet they got a whole lot of BTC. Why? Because they have an incredible idea. Same applies here. |
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For anyone still wondering about Dan's ability to code, I have had a private discussion with Xander Shepard recently. He does the Linux builds for XC and is listed on the XC team roster on the official website. He has seen the private github repository and has verified with me that Dan makes very regular commits and that he is indeed a skilled coder with the experience he says he has. I just wanted to help clarify this matter.  My view of the situation so far is this: Dan is probably more of a networks guy than an A level crypto developer. Evidence seems to suggest he's paid tens of thousands of dollars for outsourcing. The break down of this exactly we're never going to know. I'd guess a lot of that money has been paid to Christan Howe and that he's done the vast majority of development for XC. With Dan possibly coming up with the ideas about the mixer and such. I'd bet that Dan is in fact very technical and does have a lot of specific domain knowledge in his professional field, but that he's not necessarily the lead developer type. None of this in itself is inherently bad. We do know that he paid loljosh to create XC. He's never publicly admitted it, but we can see in that screenshot that we have the additional evidence for that now as well. The problem as I see it is that his image has been cultivated to be some sort of crypto coding god. "One of crypto's best" as everyone likes to throw around. And XC has built a kind of cult of personality around him. This ways parlayed in to his "freelance" work with Prometheus, including the code reviews. I will say this though: if XC ever actually goes open source, and their mixer does actually turn out to be as good as it's been sold to XC holders as, and Dan was the designer(but not the coder of it) then that would be a positive mark for him. If it's tested by third parties and the code is reviewed by experts, and it does what it says on the tin, then that would be a good thing. Until then though we have no idea, and I don't know why it hasn't been open sourced yet. Because a true decentralised trustless mixer would probably shut a lot of people up and provide some evidence that at least someone was able to design some legit tech. Read the pastebin of the conversation between the SDC devs and the XC team: https://gist.github.com/atcsecure/cf6a478ef3169cefdc6dYou'll see that Dan is way more than a "networks guy." He's an "infrastructure developer", who "started back in the 80's[, and] outside of XC most of [his] work is mesh networking/development for IP over RF." He's a "full systems guy, the whole 9, linux through security and windows (ug)" and has done numerous secure systems for government and corporations. He did not "pay loljosh to create XC". Neither is it true that he's "never publicly admitted it." He has. He paid loljosh for a standard PoS clone, which Dan then turned into the unique thing that XC is. Loljosh does not have the skills to create anything like XC. One thing everyone should realise is that two conflicting claims were presented in the smear campaign: - Dan can't code - Dan is a master coder and that's why Prometheus valued him so highly, and used him to create so many coins. So let's just get this nonsense out of the way forever. Dan is a master coder. He's a uniquely skilled and highly experienced systems architect. Importantly, being a systems architect means you don't have to work on all the low level stuff. You get other devs to create various bits and pieces for you. How else do you think XC has achieved such a ridiculous rate of development? Look at the timeline: it would take more than the 1000+ hours Dan has sunk into XC for one person to create all that. Ahem... the Rev 1 mixer tech was open sourced. Go and look at it yourself. You are quoting what Dan says about himself and saying because he said it that it is fact. Wow. Really? Ask Kennedy/Green about his skills and you will get the same answer. But does that make it true? A git means nothing. That could be pasted it. There is evidence that the use of british english is all over the github. The other person being mentioned as proof that Dan is a master coder is none other than a xc team member.  So which is it Lee? - Dan can't code - Dan is a master coder and that's why Prometheus valued him so highly, and used him to create so many coins. At least get the FUD to be non-contradictory. Any further remarks on this topic which do not contribute *new* information will be deleted. |
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183 lines of code?? cīmon... The ITO is to fund development. Funds first, code later. If people don't like this, they shouldn't buy BLOCK. Nonetheless we created the Github repo early in order to build trust with the community. It's an open source project and we want to indicate this, and also allow coders to get involved if they want to. |
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ITO end at midnight, but in which city / time zone?
It'll end in about 6 hours No, it ends in 15 hours. 23:59:59 PDT 5 November 08:00 GMT 6 November No, the official released document said 23:59:00 EST on November 5th not PDTThe text in the OP says: The ITO will run for 7 days beginning October 29, 2014 at 5am PDT and ending on November 5th 23:59:59 PDT The official PDF says: The Blocknet's ITO will begin on 05:00 EST, Oct 29th, and end at 23:59:00 EST on November 5th. I can guarantee that the ITO did not start at 5am PDT since that is 8am EST and I bought Block at 5am EST. Bittrex has announced that their close time is 23:59:59 PDT. Since they've announced this time, it is unfair on investors to now change it to an earlier time. Therefore the close time is now 23:59:59 PDT. The OP will be updated to reflect this. |
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ITO end at midnight, but in which city / time zone?
It'll end in about 6 hours No, it ends in 15 hours. 23:59:59 PDT 5 November 08:00 GMT 6 November |
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For anyone still wondering about Dan's ability to code, I have had a private discussion with Xander Shepard recently. He does the Linux builds for XC and is listed on the XC team roster on the official website. He has seen the private github repository and has verified with me that Dan makes very regular commits and that he is indeed a skilled coder with the experience he says he has. I just wanted to help clarify this matter. My view of the situation so far is this: Dan is probably more of a networks guy than an A level crypto developer. Evidence seems to suggest he's paid tens of thousands of dollars for outsourcing. The break down of this exactly we're never going to know. I'd guess a lot of that money has been paid to Christan Howe and that he's done the vast majority of development for XC. With Dan possibly coming up with the ideas about the mixer and such. I'd bet that Dan is in fact very technical and does have a lot of specific domain knowledge in his professional field, but that he's not necessarily the lead developer type. None of this in itself is inherently bad. We do know that he paid loljosh to create XC. He's never publicly admitted it, but we can see in that screenshot that we have the additional evidence for that now as well. The problem as I see it is that his image has been cultivated to be some sort of crypto coding god. "One of crypto's best" as everyone likes to throw around. And XC has built a kind of cult of personality around him. This ways parlayed in to his "freelance" work with Prometheus, including the code reviews. I will say this though: if XC ever actually goes open source, and their mixer does actually turn out to be as good as it's been sold to XC holders as, and Dan was the designer(but not the coder of it) then that would be a positive mark for him. If it's tested by third parties and the code is reviewed by experts, and it does what it says on the tin, then that would be a good thing. Until then though we have no idea, and I don't know why it hasn't been open sourced yet. Because a true decentralised trustless mixer would probably shut a lot of people up and provide some evidence that at least someone was able to design some legit tech. Read the pastebin of the conversation between the SDC devs and the XC team: https://gist.github.com/atcsecure/cf6a478ef3169cefdc6dYou'll see that Dan is way more than a "networks guy." He's an "infrastructure developer", who "started back in the 80's[, and] outside of XC most of [his] work is mesh networking/development for IP over RF." He's a "full systems guy, the whole 9, linux through security and windows (ug)" and has done numerous secure systems for government and corporations. He did not "pay loljosh to create XC". Neither is it true that he's "never publicly admitted it." He has. He paid loljosh for a standard PoS clone, which Dan then turned into the unique thing that XC is. Loljosh does not have the skills to create anything like XC. One thing everyone should realise is that two conflicting claims were presented in the smear campaign: - Dan can't code - Dan is a master coder and that's why Prometheus valued him so highly, and used him to create so many coins. So let's just get this nonsense out of the way forever. Dan is a master coder. He's a uniquely skilled and highly experienced systems architect. Importantly, being a systems architect means you don't have to work on all the low level stuff. You get other devs to create various bits and pieces for you. How else do you think XC has achieved such a ridiculous rate of development? Look at the timeline: it would take more than the 1000+ hours Dan has sunk into XC for one person to create all that. Ahem... the Rev 1 mixer tech was open sourced. Go and look at it yourself. |
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