I think a perfect ideology today compared to the other ideology is the ideology of Islam, Islam as a religion and ideology, Islam is a religion falsifies previous yan, so the lack of previous religions perfected in Islam, be claimed that all religions and their ideologies the most correct, but in fact if they want to be honest, they would admit the perfection of Islamic teachings, as well as the teaching and ideology ... Hopefully ...  If you live in the VII Century... today is a "scamlogy" and you actually said nothing to vouch for it. Your sentence lacks meaning or rational explanation. |
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Look at Africa to understand the failure of capitalism.
Many African countries are "Communist"... experiencing the very same level of "failure". The "failure" of Africa starts with the European powers splitting its territory without concern for locals, that's why African countries are so geometrical. Tribes became split, others merged... a mess for locals. Using the harvest resources argument is way outdated and doesn't vouch for any side, both Capitalist and Communist governments put the hand there. |
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how the fuck was he unarmed if he shot at the policeman
Where in the article does it say that? Keyword: "The police chief said" They've been known to bullshit on many occasions, they've lost credibility According to Dotson, ballistics evidence recovered from the scene suggested the teenager fired three shorts. The officer returned fire with 17 rounds. Dotson was unable to say why the officer fired so may shots. |
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Where in Quran does it say take your enemies women, they will be your slaves and wifes, now fuck the shit out them and bring forth babies. 4:24 And forbidden to you are wedded wives of other people except those who have fallen in your hands (as prisoners of war) 33:50 O Prophet, indeed We have made lawful to you your wives to whom you have given their due compensation and those your right hand possesses from what Allah has returned to you [of captives] and the daughters of your paternal uncles and the daughters of your paternal aunts and the daughters of your maternal uncles and the daughters of your maternal aunts who emigrated with you and a believing woman if she gives herself to the Prophet [and] if the Prophet wishes to marry her, [this is] only for you, excluding the [other] believers. We certainly know what We have made obligatory upon them concerning their wives and those their right hands possess, [but this is for you] in order that there will be upon you no discomfort. And ever is Allah Forgiving and Merciful. About Muslims killing Muslims, that's the outcome of a violent doctrine, they will keep turning on themselves for minor offenses, they were told the only way to settle them was by violence, and that's what they do. Homicidal doctrines are suicide; towards its own, because will resource violence for pretty much anything, towards other cultures/doctrines because conflicts with the "Golden Rule" and thus leave it open to counter-attacks. About cognitive dissonance; yes, it would be totally unfair to pin it on Islam alone, it's a common characteristic of religious people, even political, specially when their books are too extent, where contradiction becomes unavoidable. |
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Democracy is taken as the currently best available system by experience, itself states nowhere it is the "perfect ideology". Like Churchill said "Democracy is the worse of all systems, except for the others we know". When we get something better, we will go for it. <- this is an important statement for all ideologies, a good idea today may be a lousy one tomorrow.
Also provides no models, if the Anarchy Party wins it will be an Anarchy during its mandate, if the Fascists win it will be Fascist... the only requirement is that none of those totalitarian groups removes the limitation of their mandate to try to stay there ad eternum.
Democracy can't be exported, that's why all you've on Afghanistan or Iraq are failures. It also has high requirements about the people, or you'll end up with people voting for "God" like at Egypt or Libya.
Still, Democracy doesn't lock you in. You are free to leave at any time. Want Anarchy? Fine! Just drag your bones to Somalia and be happy. Want a "big daddy" (now chubby too) taken care of everything? Fine! Get to North Korea... Believe on delusions and want to go preach for the return of Middle Ages? Fine too, join ISIS or go to Saudi Arabia (if this is the case just make sure you don't return, please).
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What if the first 3 apply to a ideology?
You still can leave it or move to a place where another ideology is in place. Because an ideology to be faulty has to not let you chose. You will NEVER agree 100% to anything, it's impossible, so in that part all of ideologies are somewhat faulty if you look them that way, but if you are given a choice that makes a whole difference. @Snail2 About modern Democracy, it doesn't fit in a single point of the list. Democracy is a hollow ideology, all it states is to let people vote. The parts you are referring to as fitting the list are the political parties that reside inside a Democracy. |
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OK, I opened another reply because now we go for the Mo's violence in the Hadith, the ones you don't say to be heretic... ** Bukhari Vol 4, Book 52, No. 220: Narrated Abu Huraira: Allah's Apostle said, "I have been sent with the shortest expressions bearing the widest meanings, and I have been made victorious with terror (cast in the hearts of the enemy), and while I was sleeping, the keys of the treasures of the world were brought to me and put in my hand..." **Bukhari Vol 4 Book 52 No. 44 A man came to Allah's Apostle and said, "Instruct me as to such a deed as equals Jihad (in reward)." He replied, "I do not find such a deed." Then he added, "Can you, while the Muslim fighter is in the battlefield, enter your mosque to perform prayers without cease and fast and never break your fast?" The man said, "But who can do that?" Abu Huraira added, "The mujahid (i.e. Muslim fighter) is rewarded even for the footsteps of his horse while it wanders about (for grazing) tied in a long rope." **Bukhari Vol 2, Book 26, No. 594 Narrated Abu Huraira: The Prophet was asked, "Which is the best deed?" He said, "To believe in Allah and His Apostle." He was then asked, "Which is the next (in goodness)?" He said, "To participate in Jihad in Allah's cause." He was then asked, "Which is the next?" He said, "To perform Hajj-Mabrur." **Bukhari Vol 4, Book 52, No. 53 The Prophet said, "Nobody who dies and finds good from Allah (in the Hereafter) would wish to come back to this world even if he were given the whole world and whatever is in it, except the martyr who, on seeing the superiority of martyrdom, would like to come back to the world and get killed again (in Allah's cause)." **Bukhari Vol 4 Book 52, No. 48 Narrated Anas: The Prophet said, "A single endeavor (of fighting) in Allah's cause in the afternoon or in the forenoon is better than all the world and whatever is in it. A place in Paradise as small as the bow or lash of one of you is better than all the world and whatever is in it. And if a houri from Paradise appeared to the people of the earth, she would fill the space between Heaven and the Earth with light and pleasant scent and her head cover is better than the world and whatever is in it." **Bukhari Vol 4, Book 52, No. 4 Narrated Abu Huraira: The Prophet said, “by him in Whose hands my life is! Were it not for some men amongst the believers who dislike to be left behind me and whom I cannot provide with means of conveyance, I would certainly never remain behind any Sariya’ (army unit) setting out in allah’s cause. By Him in whose hands my life is! I would love to be martyred in Allah’s Cause and then get resurrected and then get martyred, and then get resurrected again and then get martyred and then get resurrected again and then get martyred” **Bukhari Vol 4, Book 52, No. 311 Narrated Ibn Abbas: The Prophet said, on the day of the conquest of Mecca, "There is no migration (after the conquest), but Jihad and good intentions, and when you are called for Jihad, you should immediately respond to the call." ** Bukhari Volume 1, Book 3, Number 125: (re a question on jihad) The Prophet raised his head (as the questioner was standing) and said, "He who fights so that Allah's Word (Islam) should be superior, then he fights in Allah's cause." **Bukhari Vol 4, Book 52, No. 256 Narrated As Sab bin Jaththama The Prophet passed by me at a place called Al-Abwa or Waddan, and was asked whether it was permissible to attack the pagan warriors at night with the probability of exposing their women and children to danger. The Prophet replied, "They (i.e. women and children) are from them (i.e. pagans)." Bukhari, Volume 8, Book 73, Number 68:
Narrated 'Abdullah bin Zam'a:
The Prophet forbade laughing at a person who passes wind, and said, "How does anyone of you beat his wife as he beats the stallion camel and then he may embrace (sleep with) her?" And Hisham said, "As he beats his slave". Muslim, book 041, number 6981] Ibn 'Umar reported Allah's messenger (may peace be upon him) as saying: you will fight against the Jews and you will kill them until even a stone would say: come here, Muslim, there is a Jew (hiding himself behind me) ; kill him. And here is the list of people killed by Mo's orders. http://wikiislam.net/wiki/List_of_Killings_Ordered_or_Supported_by_MuhammadThe simple reason you don't see Mo's killing people himself, is because he had his thugs, who he called Muslims, to do the dirty work. But being an assassin or the assassin contractor makes you no less guilty. About his race: Bukhari 1:63
Narrated Anas bin Malik:
While we were sitting with the Prophet in the mosque, a man came riding on a camel. He made his camel kneel down in the mosque, tied its foreleg and then said: "Who amongst you is Muhammad?" At that time the Prophet was sitting amongst us (his companions) leaning on his arm. We replied, "This white man reclining on his arm." The an then addressed him, "O Son of 'Abdul Muttalib."(...) Bukhari 2:122
Narrated 'Abdullah bin Dinar:
My father said, "I heard Ibn 'Umar reciting the poetic verses of Abu Talib: And a white (person) (i.e. the Prophet) who is requested to pray for rain and who takes care of the orphans and is the guardian of widows." Bukhari 4:744
Narrated Isma'il bin Abi Khalid:
I heard Abii Juhaifa saying, "I saw the Prophet, and Al-Hasan bin 'Ali resembled him." I said to Abu- Juhaifa, "Describe him for me." He said, "He was white and his beard was black with some white hair. He promised to give us 13 young she-camels, but he expired before we could get them." There you go... |
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Didn't even noticed the big text above... you've nothing else better to do with your life then preach for your delusion? 1 verse from the Quran "Because of that, We decreed upon the Children of Israel that whoever kills a soul unless for a soul or for corruption [done] in the land - it is as if he had slain mankind entirely. And whoever saves one - it is as if he had saved mankind entirely. And our messengers had certainly come to them with clear proofs. Then indeed many of them, [even] after that, throughout the land, were transgressors." (5:32) http://quran.com/5/32Killing of one innocent person irregardless of religion, belief, gender or race is forbidden in Islam and it is equivalent to killing the whole of mankind according to the verse above. More verses from the Quran on this topic http://english.islammessage.com/ArticleDetails.aspx?articleId=931So dont hate Islam for atrocities of some Muslim groups as Islam clearly forbids anything that involves killing of innocent persons. I put bold for emphasis. There are also other passages in the Quran and Hadeeths that condemn acts of terrorism. Please refer Fatwa on Terrorism for more. So this is NOT in the Quran: Quran (2:191-193) - "And kill them wherever you find them, and turn them out from where they have turned you out. And Al-Fitnah [disbelief] is worse than killing...
but if they desist, then lo! Allah is forgiving and merciful. And fight them until there is no more Fitnah [disbelief and worshipping of others along with Allah] and worship is for Allah alone. But if they cease, let there be no transgression except against Az-Zalimun (the polytheists, and wrong-doers, etc.) or this Quran (2:244) - "Then fight in the cause of Allah, and know that Allah Heareth and knoweth all things." or this Quran (2:216) - "Fighting is prescribed for you, and ye dislike it. But it is possible that ye dislike a thing which is good for you, and that ye love a thing which is bad for you. But Allah knoweth, and ye know not." or this Quran (3:56) - "As to those who reject faith, I will punish them with terrible agony in this world and in the Hereafter, nor will they have anyone to help." or this Quran (3:151) - "Soon shall We cast terror into the hearts of the Unbelievers, for that they joined companions with Allah, for which He had sent no authority". or this Quran (4:74) - "Let those fight in the way of Allah who sell the life of this world for the other. Whoso fighteth in the way of Allah, be he slain or be he victorious, on him We shall bestow a vast reward." ... and the list would go on and on and on... The only thing you cherry picked surah proved, beyond doubt, is that Islam is an incoherent doctrine. About written Arabic, if you forgot to notice it, you are referring to "Classical Arabic", not the current one. And if you look at the chart you may see: Era 4th to 9th centuries; continues as a liturgical language but with a modernized pronunciation Alislam.org... inter-islam.org... sounds legit! What next? Beautiful things about Communism on comrade.org? Well, about your second link, turns funny none of the characters you've there vouching for Islam comes close to the biggest event of Mo's era, and most likely the reason for the success of Islam as whole; the Justinian plague. Killing on average 5 thousand persons each day, in a society without science or knowledge about what was that at all, made the population soft to superstitions and Gods. As you may know, Mo wasn't the only "prophet" at his time, he was only the one of them who won the wars. |
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There's absolutely no evidence that thing you call "Allah" is a God or the creator of anything. So he has no will, doesn't choose anything and, most likely, doesn't exist at all. So all your violence for what you call "trial", is nothing but ruthless and senseless violence. I referred nothing of the paradise, those 4 things were your statement. My point is easy: Make it HERE on Earth. Screw the void promises of afterlife and imaginary friends, the only ones concerning about your "afterlife" are the worms that will eat your body. Doing corruption, destruction, injustice and evil are against teachings of Islam and who does any of them will only help one reach hell instead of paradise. No they aren't. Those words have a wide meaning, you would need to treat EVERYBODY, and consider EVERYBODY, Muslim or not, as equal for them to have validity. Islam preaches for the corruption and destruction of others, so all it does is sectarian justice (which is injustice btw), spreading evil and violence. |
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No, not all ideologies are faulty. Some ideologies just deal with a small set of issues and are good doing it, like ecology. The too widen ideologies made to sort out all the evils on Earth however are usually faulty, unless they set by guidelines and principles instead of direct orders.
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@OT,
Why is the title "unarmed teen" if the teen shot at the cop?!
Or is this the receipt for his "sandwich":
2 pieces of metal "gun shape" for bread
6 slices of full metal jacket
1 trigger
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A sandwich that fired 3 rounds?!
What do those guys feed in? Lead?
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Was just reading an interesting text about Islam. Deception on Islam, a sort of dictionary. After a terrorist attack you may listen Muslims saying things like "Islam doesn't support the killing of innocents" or "Islam doesn't support terrorism"... well... if you can interpret this as a Muslim they aren't lying, if you interpret this as a rational human being, they are casting big fat lies.
So how come they are lying but telling the truth?
A: They twist the meaning on secondary words.
When they say "Islam doesn't support the killing of innocents", they are talking about their own definition of innocents, not the one you usually give. For innocents they actually mean Muslims, as all non-Muslims are Kaffir and therefore not innocent. And even within Muslims they may mean their own sect of Islam, as they consider other Muslims heretic for some reason.
When they say "Islam doesn't support terrorism", goes around the same. They don't interpret "terrorism" as we do, for them it is "Jihad", "fighting in the ways of Allah".
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Ancient medical claims made by Muhammad... it means he was medically ignorant, and actually overall ignorant like his peers, because Allah said nothing, Allah is equally ignorant, and if Allah is ignorant then everything Mo said is attached to his own limited knowledge and not to any divine inspiration.
To the end, the most funny thing about it, is to see Arabs following so blindly a white guy, and they gave relevance enough for we to know he was white up to write it down. They should be worshiping Europeans, Europeans are of Muhammad's race, they aren't.
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So much effort into defending Islam... Defend what has no defense is a hard task, isn't it, Mr. Imam? And how can the world that is contained within it corruption, destruction, injustice, and evil be paradise? So let's corrupt, destruct, add sectarian justice and spread more evil? Is that your goal? Making a Paradise here relies on all of us, not in your imaginary friend. Edit: I also see you didn't understand what I said. When I refer to the strange "Jesus-Mo" link, I'm referring to such a stupid statement as "Muhammad suffered", this is hijacking Jesus' legend, Muhammad suffered nothing, made others suffer. And the lawyer part, is that you SOUND like a lawyer defending a psychopath with the usual "he had a difficult childhood" argument. Then this: We know the benefits of milk but camel urine, maybe site below can clarify Let me clarify to you; urine is a known "treatment" to psoriasis and other skin problems in topic application: this means directly in the affected skin. It does absolutely nothing, but nausea and spikes of salt in the system, to drink it. Camel milk has absolutely no effect on healing anything, is just a plain regular milk, the only thing it "heals" is hunger. Your claims are pure snake oil. |
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Good observation, however I believe that's what the #2 point refers to. Faulty ideologies can't adapt because they've "ready made solutions" which can't be moved or changed. So they always try the very same approach to deal with a problem, ignoring if the context changed.
A good ideology sets principles and guidelines, leaving a buffer to adapt to specific contexts.
Scamlogies here tries to reverse adapt; they don't fit in the planet, they try to make the planet fit in it.
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An easy list to keep in mind each time you come across an ideology, be it political, religious or philosophical. - A faulty ideology always present itself as the solution to everything, it's like the swiss army knife of ideologies.
- It always present ready made "solutions" for everything, never presents guidelines or principles.
- It would be paradise under that ideology, but... there's always an evil counter-part on which they blame for their ideology's poor performance.
- It requires a set of fanaticism, including death threats, violence or coercion to anyone leaving or attempting to leave the ideology
- It states people has to be compelled, often by force, to accept such ideology
This last two points are the brightest red flag on how faulty the ideology actually is. If you have a good and working ideology people will join it on their own will, you won't need to compel anyone. A fair example of a faulty ideology is Communism. Furthermore you get a worsen subset of faulty ideologies, let's call them "Scamlogies". Scamlogies are all of the above but are presented as the an ideology that agrees 100% with you. Obviously nobody agrees 100% even with their own father and mother, leave alone an ideology. Currently we see that a lot in Islam, just browse some interviews of Imams speaking of Islam and thing goes like this: Person: "I don't like slavery" Imam: "Islam is all against slavery" Person: "I want peace" Imam: "Islam is all about peace"... As result if you listen to "converts" you will see they embraced something miles away from Islam, yet call it Islam. Basically in a scamlogy you are lured by big fat lies from someone already in it to accept such ideology. I'm yet to understand why people does support these scams, as their members are also losing, my best guess would be like an investor who bought in some crap investment, he needs people to join his investment portfolio to add some value to it. But in this case nobody will cut the loss... Bottom line: Beware with "one-size fits all" ideologies, they cause more trouble than fix anything! And always READ the actual doctrines and philosophical grounds of the ideology, DON'T EVER think that listen to someone is enough, it may take you a couple of hours to read a book, but save you from a lifetime hooked to bullshit. |
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Ever wonder why an Almighty would need "your help" for something?
Well... ALL of the known Gods do. That alone is the biggest flaw of them all.
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people are full of flaws). So are the God(s) described on known religions, making them nothing but human imagination. |
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An easy one is to be "Almighty". If it isn't Almighty it isn't a God.
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