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7201  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Speculation (Altcoins) / Re: Grin Observer - GRN/BTC - Price Movement and Discussion on: January 31, 2019, 01:24:11 AM
Bgogo exchange looked like super fake bot washing traffic to me.  



That is not organic volume.

It is certainly not, however its purpose is not to fake the volume. They need to let their market makers provide the liquidity required to start a grin market in the exchange.

They are only giving us a service as a liquidity provider.

Also in the stockmarket, liquidity providers are required by law and enforced by a governing body.
7202  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Speculation (Altcoins) / Re: Grin Observer - GRN/BTC - Price Movement and Discussion on: January 30, 2019, 04:11:29 AM
You dont think the Monero forum might have a certain bias do you?

OFC, but another perspective is useful. Coin-specific threads end up becoming circle jerks (Monero thread included).

However, it also comes down to someone's belief what a cryptocoin representing as money should be. If a group of people share certain beliefs, then it is their right to reinforce those beliefs. It is easily thrown around by the people outside the group to call it a circle jerk.
7203  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Speculation (Altcoins) / Re: EOS and Ethereum might be pumped in China this year on: January 30, 2019, 03:45:28 AM
@aceptamosbitcoin. EOS will pump because Bo Shen will want it to pump if he thinks it is the right time, in other words if he has already accumulated what he needed to accumulate hehehe.

Dapps have nothing to do with it, I reckon.
7204  Economy / Speculation / Re: Tome Lee's Bitcoin Misery Index indicator on: January 30, 2019, 03:04:10 AM
Remember this? I reckon measuring Tom Lee's bitcoin misery index today would give a value near 0. Does that imply we should miserably begin buying now before it becomes less miserable hehehe?
As long as Tom Lee still thinks the 'true' value of Bitcoin is over $10,000 we shouldn't expect anything to change. Cheesy

I want to see him regret every bullish thing he said about Bitcoin, consider it a ponzi scheme, and go back to his stock--traditional market analysis. He's not doing himself a favor continuing to be called a Bitcoin bull.

I find it shocking that someone with his level of market understanding doesn't see how a bear market within the crypto world isn't much different from traditional bear markets. The only difference is that it bottoms out sooner.

Maybe he has exposed much of his clients' funds in bitcoin. He was clearly becoming someone similar to a desperate ICO token bagholder beginning on January of 2018, then all his funny hype predictions came monthly hehehe.

I laugh at him, however I also feel sorry for him.
7205  Economy / Speculation / Re: Cryptos would only have value in a dystopian economy said JP Morgan on: January 30, 2019, 02:48:12 AM
@pooyah87. It is also quite ironic that an institution like JP Morgan brought up the thought of a dystopian economy when their kind are the kind of parasites that feed on the people and bring dystopia.

Do we thank them for giving bitcoin its value hehehe?
7206  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Can bitcoin sustain itself on fees alone? on: January 30, 2019, 02:35:21 AM
Will cryptocoin users begin looking for other coins to use for cheaper transactions?

Yes, bitcoin has been slowly losing dominance.

are you sure about that?

first, you're probably mistaking altcoin speculation for actual usage. "cheaper transactions" has been an effective marketing ploy for many altcoins but their rise in price doesn't necessarily indicate people are using them for cheap fees. people are probably just speculating that cheap fees will be important for future utility. that doesn't make these speculators correct that bitcoin will be cannibalized by coins with lower transaction fees. the market will decide that.

second, as more and more coins are launched (with higher and higher circulating supplies), "bitcoin dominance" as a function of market cap should continue dropping. that really doesn't indicate that bitcoin has lost its dominance over the market. no altcoin comes anywhere near dethroning bitcoin in price, liquidity, usage, value transferred, etc and i think that will continue to be true.

Have you noticed that sportsbooks, dice sites and other businesses are also accepting altcoins and are increasing? Do you think the people will continue to use bitcoin when the fees are high? No, the people will look for alternatives, I reckon.
7207  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Oscar Awards 2019 Betting on: January 29, 2019, 04:09:45 AM
@asche. Freddie Mercury was gay wasn't he and he also died of AIDS which might have been contracted from other gay men or drug use?

He was not a saint, I reckon. He was gay and wild, which is something not to condemn him about.
7208  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Speculation (Altcoins) / China Center for Information and Industry Development altcoin pumps on: January 29, 2019, 03:54:16 AM
Do your due diligence and you will find the connections yourselves. The China Center for Information and Industry Development might be another corrupt cryptocoin ranking organization under the influence of Fenbushi Capital where Vitalik is a partner and founded by the Chinese billionaire, Bo Shen, who has a big investment in EOS.

The organization has ranked EOS and Ethereum the no.1 and no.2 blockchains in the cryptospace with bitcoin only on no.15. I shake my head, unless this is the beginning hehehe.



According to a press release on Jan. 24th, China announced another iteration of its government-sponsored ranking system for the top cryptocurrencies and their blockchains, once again placing EOS at the head of the pack.

Despite holding the fifth position by market capitalization, with a valuation of $2.2 billion, EOS has managed to hold the top spot in blockchain appraisal by China’s Center for Information and Industry Development (CCID).

EOS was ranked #1 in the last iteration of the blockchain evaluation released in December 2018, a position the coin has held since June 2018. Bitcoin, with a market capitalization over twenty-eight times that of EOS, was ranked fifteenth in blockchain appraisal, up three spots from December’s rankings. Ethereum, which ranks third in market capitalization just behind XRP, held the distinction of the second highest rated blockchain by the government organization, with XRP being placed all the way in the 20th spot. ETH’s position remains unchanged from December.


Source https://ethereumworldnews.com/eos-china-blockchain-ranking-cryptocurrency-2019/
7209  Economy / Speculation / Re: Tome Lee's Bitcoin Misery Index indicator on: January 29, 2019, 03:08:01 AM
Remember this? I reckon measuring Tom Lee's bitcoin misery index today would give a value near 0. Does that imply we should miserably begin buying now before it becomes less miserable hehehe?
7210  Economy / Speculation / Cryptos would only have value in a dystopian economy said JP Morgan on: January 29, 2019, 02:46:36 AM
Thank Satoshi that bitcoin was invented because JP Morgan and friends are making the dystopian economy real hehehe.

However, bitcoin already has value, does that imply that we are already in a dystopian economy? Will a higher value also imply that we are deeper into dystopia? Have they run out of fud ideas? Undecided



Investment bank JPMorgan Chase has said that cryptocurrencies would only have value in a dystopian economy.

In a recent note to its clients, the firm said that it was skeptical of the value of cryptocurrencies apart from in a “dystopia” where investors have lost confidence in “all major reserve assets (dollar, euro, yen, gold) and in the payments system,” according to a report from Business Insider on Monday.

The banking giant further said that, though cryptocurrencies have a low correlation to traditional asset classes such as shares and bonds, they are not the best bet for diversification. “Low correlations have little value if the hedge asset itself is in a bear market.”

JPMorgan also reportedly said earlier this week that, with prices so low, bitcoin is worth less than the cost to mine it.


Source https://www.coindesk.com/cryptocurrencies-would-only-have-value-in-dystopian-economy-jpmorgan
7211  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Can bitcoin sustain itself on fees alone? on: January 29, 2019, 01:57:09 AM
@squatter. However, there are also these age old questions. Will cryptocoin users begin looking for other coins to use for cheaper transactions?

Yes, bitcoin has been slowly losing dominance.

Will the miners leave bitcoin and mine coins with better incentives?

Maybe, however I speculate the answer might be a yes[/] in a few years.
7212  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN] Grin | PoW Mining | Electronic transactions for all. Community driven. on: January 28, 2019, 02:32:22 AM
A reinstall? Do you mean to delete everything in the ~./grin folder? I reckon deleting only the chain_data folder would be enough. However, there has to be another practical way without deleting anything.
7213  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Oscar Awards 2019 Betting on: January 28, 2019, 02:15:08 AM
I reckon many Queen fans would hate Sacha Cohen Baron's version of Freddie Mercury. Sacha wanted to show Freddie Mercury the man including all the orgies and the drugs. The remaining members of Queen wanted to protect their legacy as a band, according to Sacha.

In any case, how many Golden Globe best actor winners also won the Oscar for best actor?
7214  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Speculation (Altcoins) / Re: Grin Observer - GRN/BTC - Price Movement and Discussion on: January 28, 2019, 01:28:13 AM
Can I be honest?  

I love the tech but think the infinite emissions policy is broken.

And the dev team haven’t put themselves in a strong position by announcing there will be regular hard forks.  

So soon enough someone will hard fork it with a 4 year halvening cycle.  

Which begs the question - what happens to Grin with a contentious hard fork?



It is not broken. Infinite supply assures better and fairer distribution because it discourages hoarding, which would also make the market discover a fair price for each grin.

It might not be perfect, but what coin has a perfect distribution?

The rest of your post is useless speculation.

Grin is designed to discourage hoarding by having an aggressive inflation schedule.  The risk here of course is that supply exceeds demand during bear markets.  

Basic economics teaches us that the price is driven towards zero when supply exceeds demand.  

Of course the price is unlikely to ever reach zero, simply because there will be demand just at a much lower price.  All of us would be happy to buy 1 million Grin for $1, given how powerful the underlying tech is.  Grin *will* have buyers of last resort, so long as the tech is not fundamentally broken.  

It just means that the price will likely stay depressed over the long term and could it make more volatile.  It's a funny sort of analysis to say that Grin is likely to be more used as a currency because it is more volatile, than say Bitcoin.  

No, the price might stay depressed on its first years of distribution. However, as the supply grows, the percentage of new supply versus present supply goes down, price goes up. Assuming the demand grows to bitcoin level which is the goal.

Also, how would Grin be more volatile? More coins in circulation, more supply, more liquidity, less volatility.

The ticker used by exchanges is GRIN not GRN.
7215  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Can bitcoin sustain itself on fees alone? on: January 28, 2019, 01:11:25 AM
I have this question earlier also and somebody suggested that LN will be able to solve the problem.  If bitcoin cost is high, major transaction will be done on LN and when the channel is closed it will written in blockchain and miner will get good fees for that transaction. But user will not mind it because they have transacted multiple times in LN channel so cost per transaction is still small for user.

Sorry: It is all from my memory as I recall, might be some facts get distorted.

the only way that LN can help miners earn some additional income is if they also run a Lightning Node alongside their Bitcoin Node that they have to run to be able to get transactions to include in their blocks. so they can earn additional income.
what you said doesn't make sense because in the end they are still making one transaction on-chain and that transaction has the usual fee like any other transaction so there is no additional income for the miners.

Is that the best solution you can give? Miners to run Lightning nodes to earn additional income?? Miners would rather mine another coin, I reckon hehehe.
7216  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN] Grin | PoW Mining | Electronic transactions for all. Community driven. on: January 28, 2019, 12:58:46 AM
I have a problem. A power failure caused my node to shutdown. If I start it up again it prints this on the screen

I failed to find one of the right cookies. Found 0
Segmentation fault (core dumped)


Also, grin --help does not help that much. What should I do?
7217  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Can bitcoin sustain itself on fees alone? on: January 26, 2019, 02:09:24 AM
The introduction of the Lightning Network have open up a new source of income to these miners. They can host LN nodes and generate additional income from that and it can supplement their income from Bitcoin miners fees in the future.

I also think more second layer applications will be added to the Blockchain network in the future and running nodes for this will also help to cover their expenses.

Miners will have to adapt to survive.  Wink

That might be a solution hehehe. However, there is a more natural solution for miners and Asic manufacturers. To diversify and mine altcoins.
7218  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Speculation (Altcoins) / Re: Grin Observer - GRN/BTC - Price Movement and Discussion on: January 26, 2019, 01:56:12 AM
Grin is following bitcointalk.org's traditions. Will it be the next bitcoin hehehe?

In any case, there are not much grin distributed for the market to discover the real price of each coin yet. This present grin market is easily manipulated, I reckon.
7219  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN] Grin | PoW Mining | Electronic transactions for all. Community driven. on: January 26, 2019, 01:34:34 AM
Can I be honest?  

I love the tech but think the infinite emissions policy is broken.

And the dev team haven’t put themselves in a strong position by announcing there will be regular hard forks.  

So soon enough someone will hard fork it with a 4 year halvening cycle.  

Which begs the question - what happens to Grin with a contentious hard fork?



It is not broken. Infinite supply assures better and fairer distribution because it discourages hoarding, which would also make the market discover a fair price for each grin.

It might not be perfect, but what coin has a perfect distribution?

The rest of your post is useless speculation.
7220  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Can bitcoin sustain itself on fees alone? on: January 25, 2019, 04:26:59 AM
A layer 2 does not solve the miners' problem to be incentivized, I reckon. It competes with it in fee collection. How is that advantageous for the miners who already have their incentives halved every 4 years?

You don't get no layer two without accessing it via layer one. In a successful scenario demand for layer one space would be enormous. It would be an occasional thing to interact with it, not every single time you move money.

However, layer 2 will also make moving coins using layer 1 lesser in demand that would also cause the fees to go down? How would no incentives and low fees sustain the miners in securing the blockchain?
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