Is this voting pool (mentioned before) public? So everybody can vote, even those, who never invest in GBF? If so, I don't see a point in voting. You're holding 440 BTC - they should be distributed immediately to investors.
If you want to vote, please do. But every vote should been assigned to investor (to the number on the list, for example), so only those, who agree to SatoshiDice will bet with their, remaining funds. If someone want to put funds in to SatoshiDice - please do! But only your part, not ours.
Is this voting pool (mentioned before) public? So everybody can vote, even those, who never invest in GBF? If so, I don't see a point in voting. You're holding 440 BTC - they should be distributed immediately to investors.
If you want to vote, please do. But every vote should been assigned to investor (to the number on the list, for example), so only those, who agree to SatoshiDice will bet with their, remaining funds. If someone want to put funds in to SatoshiDice - please do! But only your part, not ours.
The SatoshiDice answer was there just to be funny. Discounting it, only <10% said no, so it looks like people want a payout. <10% as no is a very low number seeing as anyone can vote. People who aren't invested would have more reason for saying no. I think we want our BTC  So am I correct that it will be calculated by taking the final/current investor holdings spreadsheet, adding up the total, and then finding each investor's % of the total. Then multiplying that % by the 430-440 BTC and paying them out the result? Okay it seems like we will do a payout  For anyone unhappy with this contact me and I am sure we can reach some sort of compromise. To the rest a payout will be done today or tomorrow, It will indeed be done by calculating each investors total % of the fund and then paying out a proportionate amount to the 430 BTC. //DeaDTerra Have the coins been sent? Thanks! |
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Is this voting pool (mentioned before) public? So everybody can vote, even those, who never invest in GBF? If so, I don't see a point in voting. You're holding 440 BTC - they should be distributed immediately to investors.
If you want to vote, please do. But every vote should been assigned to investor (to the number on the list, for example), so only those, who agree to SatoshiDice will bet with their, remaining funds. If someone want to put funds in to SatoshiDice - please do! But only your part, not ours.
Is this voting pool (mentioned before) public? So everybody can vote, even those, who never invest in GBF? If so, I don't see a point in voting. You're holding 440 BTC - they should be distributed immediately to investors.
If you want to vote, please do. But every vote should been assigned to investor (to the number on the list, for example), so only those, who agree to SatoshiDice will bet with their, remaining funds. If someone want to put funds in to SatoshiDice - please do! But only your part, not ours.
The SatoshiDice answer was there just to be funny. Discounting it, only <10% said no, so it looks like people want a payout. <10% as no is a very low number seeing as anyone can vote. People who aren't invested would have more reason for saying no. I think we want our BTC So am I correct that it will be calculated by taking the final/current investor holdings spreadsheet, adding up the total, and then finding each investor's % of the total. Then multiplying that % by the 430-440 BTC and paying them out the result? Okay it seems like we will do a payout For anyone unhappy with this contact me and I am sure we can reach some sort of compromise. To the rest a payout will be done today or tomorrow, It will indeed be done by calculating each investors total % of the fund and then paying out a proportionate amount to the 430 BTC. //DeaDTerra Great! I will be watching for the payout and confirm when it arrives, thanks. |
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Is this voting pool (mentioned before) public? So everybody can vote, even those, who never invest in GBF? If so, I don't see a point in voting. You're holding 440 BTC - they should be distributed immediately to investors.
If you want to vote, please do. But every vote should been assigned to investor (to the number on the list, for example), so only those, who agree to SatoshiDice will bet with their, remaining funds. If someone want to put funds in to SatoshiDice - please do! But only your part, not ours.
The SatoshiDice answer was there just to be funny. Discounting it, only <10% said no, so it looks like people want a payout. <10% as no is a very low number seeing as anyone can vote. People who aren't invested would have more reason for saying no. I think we want our BTC So am I correct that it will be calculated by taking the final/current investor holdings spreadsheet, adding up the total, and then finding each investor's % of the total. Then multiplying that % by the 430-440 BTC and paying them out the result? |
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Looks like yes is winning by far. But I left the poll open for a week as that was the default option. However I am happy with an earlier payout.
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I personally feel like a dice roll is a stupid idea tbh.
One could argue GLBSE is a stupid idea, tbh. Indeed, one could even argue it is a more stupid act then rolling a dice as the odds are unknown hence it can have even worse risk to profit ratio. //DeaDTerra haha, I really just put that in the poll to add some levity However it would be even more funny if we actually did it! |
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Wow, mining is getting TOUGH!
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Just a few days now until the claim process is over: The collection of claims could not last forever. We would in principle stop collecting claims on forum time 23:59:59, Nov. 18th. Any claims after that should come with very solid proof. I wonder how the chip is coming |
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Please only vote if you are a holder of Gamma Fund. Thanks!
(This is an informal poll, DT will be making the final decision but as of yet no criteria has been decided to determine when we are going to be paid and I am trying to move things along.)
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I'm very much in favour of paying out what little there is now.
The 450 or so left now would give everyone back around 6% of their "investment".
That's better than nothing when this unpredictable bot eats it or something.
Then I think any other money should be paid out as soon as it's recovered.
Can we please get some opinions in here and put an end to this sad farce?
Agreed, I would like to be paid out ASAP. My friend who is has a decent sum invested agreed with me - he is busy with school or would post here as well. I can probably get him to email DT directly. (Writing him now so he can confirm this through a private email) Since so many people are quiet -- is there anyone who really wants us to keep waiting more months and months? Aside from the one guy who wants to bet it all on Satoshi Dice - I would rather do that honestly than keep waiting Although I am sure he said it tongue in cheek ;P Then again, who knows! Edit: I added a poll here, https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=124180.0 |
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Any word on this? It has now been 42 days since the fund was closed. Have those 400 coins made a profit or are they in limbo? I would like for them to be paid out. Does anyone object?
Those 400 coins won't go very far. We might get back 0.5% of the coins sent to this malinvestment fund. I prefer to be paid back in non-trivial amounts, but it's almost certainly a better idea to get our few remaining coins out of any further scams/malinvestments/oopsies/fiascos ASAP. At least it's something. After what happened I am worried about the value going down even more and I would like to clear up any loose ends before this year is over (that is, try to get my Bitcoin back from other people who are holding them... only DT and some GLBSE shares). |
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Just to clarify, I was genuinely an idiot and for some reason was mixed up about where I put my bitcoins. I wasn't drawing any comparisons, and I am glad that you're going to act to get what coins you can back to us.
haha it's fine  Well at the moment things is starting to look a bit dire, James has not responded to anyone for several days ( from what I can patch together by the forum posts), which is making me a bit nervous if we are ever going to see the light of the GLBSE documents. //DeaDTerra Wow! Unbelievable! It would still be nice to divide those 400 coins up though. Everyone's vote should not be equal, the votes should be based on the percent of the fund they hold Hope all is well in Sweden! Cancel that I just talked to James! He had run out of credits on his phone ^^ that's why he couldn't call me. I didn't learn that much but my update can be found here: Disclaimer, I am not here to fight about anything, I am not here to tell you what's wrong or what's right or get into any argument. I am done with that. I am here to share what I have been told by Nefario. If you want to listen, listen if not, I won't force you.
This is the situation described to me by Nefario.
Right now about 50% of the double payments has been sent back.
The script for the payout is still broken and James is working to fix it, so that it doesn't send any more double spendings and so that it takes the double spendings into account.
Nefario, is suggesting that if the double spendings are not returned then your account info will not be included in the asset information/list until the payment is sent back.
He could not give me a ETA but it seems like once the script for the payment is fully function, the rest of the payments should follow shortly.
note:(I am not sure of the actual system of asset claim, if it will be a code system similar to the one Goat was given or if it will be a list of information)
I will answer any questions that I feel like and I will ignore the rest.
//DeaDTerra
Once we decide to pay out the payouts will indeed be proportional, as for the voting it seems like a majority isn't really following this thread so closely. So I decided to wait until the general opinion was clearer. All is good in Sweden, a bit sleep deprived from the travel home but otherwise I am all good thanks for asking. //DeaDTerra Any word on this? It has now been 42 days since the fund was closed. Have those 400 coins made a profit or are they in limbo? I would like for them to be paid out. Does anyone object? |
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Just to clarify, I was genuinely an idiot and for some reason was mixed up about where I put my bitcoins. I wasn't drawing any comparisons, and I am glad that you're going to act to get what coins you can back to us.
haha it's fine Well at the moment things is starting to look a bit dire, James has not responded to anyone for several days ( from what I can patch together by the forum posts), which is making me a bit nervous if we are ever going to see the light of the GLBSE documents. //DeaDTerra Wow! Unbelievable! It would still be nice to divide those 400 coins up though. Everyone's vote should not be equal, the votes should be based on the percent of the fund they hold Hope all is well in Sweden! |
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I'm crazy.
No really I have a lot of small factors that weigh into my decision:
1. Free power
2. I love tech for tech's sake, I am trying to buy every mining card at least to own for a little while
3. I think these cards will retain value on the gaming market despite the influx
4. Coins generated by the machines I have running now cost me little/nothing --> makes sense to buy more cards with "free money"
**edit**
Forgot to make an offer.
I just paid 21 coins for two 5870 with shipping from Europe with aftermarket coolers and while I like this card (I think its pretty well balanced at cost/performance.) I'd love a slightly lower price. Not killer though, just keep in mind I *currently* have maybe 5 coins and a couple of those are promised to internet friends already...
2. Yea me too! It is sad to part with our farm Cool! Would you be willing to pay in dollars rather than BTC? I guess not since it defeats point 4! But yea your logic seems tight! |
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Cool, what is your rationale for buying now? I think ASICs are going to cut into margin quickly... then again if you have free power! More power to you. I'm not sure about the fair market value honestly so I put the auction up on eBay. Would you like to make an offer? |
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400 is only about 5% of the total funds. 5% is surely not enough.
What are the chances of getting money back from GLBSE? If liquidation is successful how many bitcoin totals do we have?
400 includes the liquid Bitcoins we got back from GLBSE, the rest are in loan/debt or as a majority in GLBSE assets of different kinds. I think that it's possible to liquidate these assets without GLBSE as long as the issuers still honor their contracts. //DeaDTerra Any word on this? It would be nice to get some coins back. |
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11 days until friedcats non optimistic estimation for when the producer delivers the hardware. That would be on november the 6th. If he was right soon the hashrates will rise... Though we can collect the earnings only after this asset-mess is cleared. I wonder what nefario is doing the last time... An update would be awesome! |
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I sent some coins, and kept the client open, eventually the status shows:
Status: 10 confirmations, broadcast through 8 nodes
When I close and restart the client it says Status: 10 confirmations
Is the broadcast information lost? Just curious. Thanks!
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any updates on how the bot is doing?
They are trading okay no massive amounts of profit. The arb bot has hit the MTGox withdraw roof hence the profit is slowing down as we can't move the capital. I am considering doing a payout of the 400 BTC we have for now, What's you guys opinions on that? //DeaDTerra I would say let's do a payout. |
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