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781  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: presuring someone into Bitcoin investment on: August 30, 2023, 10:37:03 AM
she thought I'was going to defraud her.because she never hard about Bitcoin investment before.

This is so wrong. What relationship do you have with your mother that will make her think you want to defraud her? This story doesn't portray good about you. Could it be that this story is not real.

there was a lesson I lean from here. when you are preaching to someone about Bitcoin, you shouldn't talk too much, and you shouldn't stay long and you should also allow them make some research and ask questions about what we are preaching to them, to avoid loss at the end.

I don't know, how you see it.
Do they preach Bitcoin to people?
Anyone who knows that you are into Bitcoin will come to you and ask you to teach them and not the other way round. You don't go around preaching Bitcoin to people as if Bitcoin is a ponzi scheme or you are marketing a referral system that gives you commission.
782  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Bitcoin movement: my thought on: August 30, 2023, 08:33:08 AM
I just thought of this, and I want you to view it from your own perspective. As everyone hopes that more people get to believe and use bitcoins, I think bitcoins can gain more new users on a large scale if anyone (whales ) can place their advert through a popular football club just as some companies do sponsor  football league. I think this will send a strong message to billions of people across the world who do know but does not embrace Bitcoin usage.
Let me site another example, let's take for instance, a club announces that they  will pay their players in BTC. This news can also help people adopt BTC.
It is bitcoin and not bitcoins.
Concerning your proposed advertisement in the boards during football matches and other places. I think this proposal would have been better if it was the first year of Bitcoin launch. I tell you that no single person that is playing football or even watching football that does not know about bitcoin. Anyone that has access to internet knows about Bitcoin and almost has heard about it. So, your proposal is necessary and no one will take that tax because bitcoin is a decentralized coin.

People that do not know about bitcoin are people that are living in rural places and maybe who do not have access to internet. Bitcoin does not beg people to be aware of it. It is just the battle of government to hide Bitcoin. If government should give bitcoin a level-playing ground, the adoption will be massive.
783  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Premier League Prediction Thread 2023/2024 on: August 30, 2023, 08:09:30 AM
Interesting events tonight in the English premier league carabao cup. Follow me!

Fulham 1-1 Tottenham - Fulham has knocked out Tottenham Hotspur from the carabao cup on penalties.
Another chance for Tottenham to win a trophy has been missed, people that are strong supporters of the club and were at least expecting something this season will now have to just believe that their team will be able to win the premier league. It was expected judging from their good start to the season in the premier league that they would be able to play better and dominate the game with Fulham, but they were held to a draw game that went on to penalties. Maybe if their coach had started the normal players who have started in the premier league games where they have played so well, maybe they would have won the game, and the game will not have gotten to penalties.
I did not watch the match between Tottenham and Aston Villa, but I have always said that Tottenham do not plan very well in order to win themselves a trophy, no matter how big or small the trophy is atleast let there be win in the club. It will boost the morale of the players and that of the fans. Is it too difficult to concentrate on only one competition either the FA Cup or carabao Cup in order to win a trophy. They would have played with all their best players and strength against Aston Villa, even if they do not make it in other ompetitions but let them focus on one and win it. They really need it. I mean they do need it before they will lose other good players as they lost Kane.
784  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Saudi Professional League 2023/2024 on: August 29, 2023, 07:20:38 PM
The first half of the Al-Nassr vs Al-Shabab match is almost over and it is very surprising that Al-Nassr has won 3 goals in this match. And the current temporary score in the Al-Nassr vs Al-Shabab match is 3-0. CR7 scored 2 goals via penalty kicks in the 13th and 38th minutes, and Mane scored 1 goal in the 40th minute. I think Al-Nassr already owned this game.
Ronaldo should be aiming at winning the top scorer in the league this season with how much the competition has increased. He has already started the season well scoring goals. His combination with Sadio Mane looks very promising and they both look like they will become the best attacking duo in the Saudi league this season with the kind of understanding that is developing between them, we saw that in the assist from Ronaldo for Mane to score. It will be very good for Al Nassr if Ronaldo's and Mane connection in front becomes very strong because it will influence how this season will turn out for them. They have to win the league this season.
Whenever I read the Ronaldo news in the internet and I see that the man is still at the helms of affairs in his club. He is still scoring goals and still contesting with young players like Mbappe and Haaland, I begin to imagine the kind of man Ronaldo is.
Honestly speaking, that guy is a model both on pitch and outside the pitch. Mane  is another dedicated footballer who Liverpool carelessly left to leave the club. With the combination of this good and determined players more things will be achieved in that club. Ronaldo will likely be the highest goal scorer of the season.
785  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Premier League Prediction Thread 2023/2024 on: August 29, 2023, 07:01:10 PM
Hmm, Liverpool are no doubt in a good shape but Aston villa isn't a team you can just easily win and you can ask jorgen klopp he can attestify. Aston villa are like a torn in most of the big team flesh and if you are careful enough they can hit you anytime with a suprise victory and I believe their with Liverpool isn't going to be an easy game like the way you sound to be and moreover their defence like you statement now has a defect courtesy to van dijk absence.
Liverpool have decline in their performance last season, they're still in the recovery process presently. I don't normally jeopardize the probability of Liverpool in Anfield, They Never Walk Alone. We should not underestimate average club this season, they possess a high spirit when it comes to league games specifically against elite clubs. Liverpool facing Aston Villa this weekend, a challenging game for the Reds, but I'm confident that they will record a triumph results in the game. Aston Villa headcoach, Unai Emery looks forward to play a defensive game against the hosts.
I may not be able to say who will win, but we know that Liverpool is the stronger team. Then we have to understand that last season, Emry just arrived and didn't go for pre-season. But this season he entered the pre-season with the boys and prepared them himself. He will give issues to many big clubs and it may start with Klopp and his boys. Anything can happen in that meeting. But then for Liverpool to beat Newcastle with one man down last week is a moral booster.
786  Other / Politics & Society / Re: The danger of gender inequality on: August 29, 2023, 06:24:17 PM
There are certain jobs that best fit a male,especially when the job will be tedious and needs physical strength to get it done. The CMD has already kept that position for a male and that was why he gave it to the guy and not the lady.

If it is a secretary job,do you think that he will give it to the guy,I doubt that. So don't see it as gender inequality. Since you where also part of the interview, why after the guy has been given the job,you didn't ask the CMD what happened that made him not give the lady the chance to prove herself. Maybe,you would have learnt from him because there must be a reason for it.
That is the truth, there are some jobs that are masculine and feminine in nature but we are not always allowed to post gender specifity in jobs. It appears like some kinds of description.
Talking about your idea that there are some jobs that needs gender segregation. When you go to banks they use more of women in the counter with their sweet and light voice to take your money from you. Man's voice might sound deep and somehow scary Grin
787  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Is politics really necessary? on: August 29, 2023, 05:49:44 PM

Disadvantages of politics:
1. The number of your enemies will increase
Yes, your enemies will increase and also your friends will increase

2. It will be a waste of money.
But when they win they will regain all the money they spent.

3. Your time will be wasted.
What would you have done with the time? Maybe sleeping...

4. You may have the possibility of death.
Whether you join politics or not, there is possibility of death for you.
788  Other / Beginners & Help / Re: Suggest for newbies investors! on: August 26, 2023, 09:54:56 AM
Always best thing to do before investing are.

Research
Ask for feed back to those people who know more
Don't rush your decision or don't invest if unsure on many things.
See how realistic the profit offered or can be generated
Know the risk
All these investment and research things plays well in altcoins, I do not think that it has major thing to do with bitcoin. There is no big research that is expected of bitcoin, just buy dip l, hold and sell high you are on profit and if the price eventually dips all you do is wait and allow the price to appreciate again.

If you are into this thinking for sure you will never get scam or placed wrong decision easily so best to have proper knowledge on investment so that you can decide accurately and will not rely on unverified statement of other people.
If it is about altcoins and shitcoins you Nedd to do good research by looking at the project road map and also know the capacity of the team behind the project. This is where everyone needs to do their own research.
789  Other / Beginners & Help / Re: Just a fresh beginner. on: August 26, 2023, 09:31:52 AM
It is very difficult for me to understand such people who, after registering on the forum, left behind one message and after that, no longer visit the forum. That's exactly what the OP is, who unfortunately will not be able to read the welcome posts that were left for him, since after he left the message, he has not visited the forum for 2 months.
It is very rare to see a newbie that will join this forum and start immediately making waves to hit the ground running. It is not easy, especially people that have not known the benefit of this forum. It is only people that have been here for some time that I've known the amount of information that is gotten here and also the financial benefits of being paid for making posts that will want to remain here constantly.

The interface of this website does not appear appealing to newbies and that is why they abandon here and find other ways but one thing is sure, any of them that develops interest constantly for a few weeks would not want to leave here again and people that left will sometime remember here again, especially when there is a bull run.
790  Other / Meta / Re: Request: Disable merits in the Wall Observer thread on: August 26, 2023, 08:38:54 AM
I understand the reason Op is making this kind of bold proposal. If there are people that sends merits to their alts in the WO thread, I cannot tell but if we feel that there is unnecessary merit flow in the WO thread, what happens is to call the attention of the merit sources to it. If merits are given to merit worthy posts, that wouldn't be a bit of a problem. If there are 1000 quality posts a day in the WO thread, 20,000 merits can flow there.
If the people sending these merits are not merit sources, they should also be called out for sending merits to relatively low quality posts. I do not support deactivating merits in the WO because that is the most remarkable thread in the forum.
791  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: I think we need to start asking people if...... on: August 26, 2023, 08:06:23 AM
Very few have the positive mind whereas the majority doesn't have any positive thoughts and they simply term bitcoin as scam and a manipulated one. They never understand better about bitcoin, it takes lots and lots of time. Just on requesting the people nothing gonna change. OP should continue to ask the same question with different people on various professions and if we see more than 30% ready to accept bitcoin payments then we're good with the spread on bitcoin.
It is not only seeing bitcoin as a scam or a manipulated coin, there is another side of the story. Immediately people understand that you are into bitcoin, they will see you as one of the below;
  • A fraudster
  • A wealthy person
  • An enlightened person
It is only a few number of the society that will see you as an enlightened person. The majority will either see you as a scammer or someone who is extremely rich and they will look for a way to harm or steal from you. This is why many people prefer to remain private with their bitcoin.
792  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Quit gamble! Easy or Hard? Let's talk. on: August 25, 2023, 04:06:24 PM
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One can control it if the case is still not serious, but it doesn't mean that it's easy to do; it's still a challenge for that person. On the other hand, if the case is serious, it is most likely necessary to have other people help them too. They will be needing counseling and support from others.
Most gamblers addicted to gambling have a serious problem because they can't stop thinking about gambling or even stop playing. And as long as they still have money to play, maybe they will just continue gambling until the money is gone. And that required the help of another person who could see how far his gambling addiction had gone. But a person who is addicted to gambling may be able to hide it from others so that others will not be able to see it clearly if they are not really watching the gambler.
Someone addicted to gambling will keep playing until the money finishes, but sometimes even if their money is gone, they are still going to sell their properties in order to gamble. So, the absence of money is not even the remedy for gambling addiction, rather it causes more havoc. It is even better that there is personal money that they use for gambling, either from work or from business than not having any. It is either they resort to selling properties or they will go into crime in order to quench their gambling tasty.
793  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Gamble Responsibly on: August 25, 2023, 03:42:18 PM
you should know your limit if you lose accept it don't make gambling your profession gambling is just a pastime and it's not a profession many people are addicted to gambling, most of them have a lot of debt and many others, so if I were you, be responsible when it comes to gambling

some gamblers must be addicted. but we gamblers have a way of controlling our own addiction. I can say, that those who are addicted are those who continue to lose at gambling games but come back to play continuously. this will not waste our money if we can do good management of what we produce and how much we can spend. those who have become impoverished and have had their finances ruined by gambling are stupid gamblers.
Often time, I have seen people glory in calling themselves professional gamblers and I will imagine how someone would find pleasure when called a professional gambler.

Gambling is not a prestigious profession and in some part of the world. It is highly prohibited. So it is not something someone should be very proud of and that is why it is advisable that those who are gambling should do so in moderation and not to be addicted to it. Gamble with only your spare money or the one you have allocated for gambling. Find more fun in gambling that winning that is the only way to keep going healthily in the gambling industry.
794  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: UEFA Champions League 2023/24 Season on: August 25, 2023, 03:06:03 PM
Manchester United don't seem ready for the season yet. Their winning against Wolves was like a miracle to me after seeing how many opportunities Wolves wasted against them. Right after that week we clearly saw it about the Red Devils because they lost to Tottenham by 2-0. In the previous season they were nearly defeating Tottenham while they even had Kane.

Manchester United are struggling for now and the group stage draw and the match dates are closing in on one hand as well. Erik ten Hag had better do something about this situation.

He needs to find a way to motivate his players more starting with a better defending than this.
Manchester United problem is not majorly on defence. I can say that the defensive line of Manchester United is fairly good and with the addition of a new goalkeeper that helps  the defence is okay. The problem lies in the midfield where the midfielders are unable to hold ball for some minutes without giving it away. Especially Mount who was newly signed from Chelsea. If ETH can start Mount from the bench and play Erickson in the midfield. I think Manchester United will have results. Another problem of Manchester United is the finishing, Rashford is totally ineffective at the centre of the forward. His strength lies from the flank, if  he can play Martial at the top nine, then Rashford and Sancho in the two flags result might change for him.
795  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Premier League Prediction Thread 2023/2024 on: August 25, 2023, 02:21:36 PM
What do you think of Chelsea vs Luton Town? Will Chelsea be able to overcome its still-not-sharp attack line? considering that Luton Town is certainly not a strong opponent when viewed from any angle, but Chelsea also cannot fully guarantee victory. I know on paper Chelsea has a very high win rate. I will not underestimate Luton because they might want to show that coming to the Premier League is not easy, so every game that Luton Town players face needs to maximize the results. The most important thing now is that Luton Town needs to have more experience playing against big clubs to get used to the Premier League style of play.

Even if we consider Chelsea is in the bad form still Chelsea got a more chance in this game against Luton Town and they are not strong at all to be a problem for a team like Chelsea because in the past games, these two teams had against teach others Luton Town two games against Chelsea and they could never win or even take a draw against Chelsea.
However, the 10.0 rate seems tempting to me for Luton.



The match between Chelsea Football Club and Luton Town is not a very serious one that a gambler will not know what to predict. It is evidently obvious that Chelsea will win that match with high margin of goals. Luton Town is no match to Chelsea, especially as Chelsea lost their last match against West Ham. They will do all they can in order to win this match with Luton Town, that you give them the opportunity to remain in the context zone of the English Premier League. If you are predicting that much it should be Chelsea to win with above 3.5 goals

I cannot trust any of the Championship teams that got promoted to the English Premier League because they have never shown capacity to be trusted. Three of them are likely to be relegated.
796  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: Why is Monero so unpopular? on: August 24, 2023, 03:19:03 PM
Privacy is a necessary feature in my opinion, but why hasn't Monero become a main coin?
In how many exchanges have you seen Monero listed, the reason is that the government does not like people having their privacy and they will be forcing all the centralized exchanges to delist privacy centric coins, if not they wont be able to conduct their business as usual. If you really think that Monero should be the main coin, you should use them irrespective of the price or where they are listed.

monero is not very popular to traders because of its availability in trading platforms. but of course, those who are cautious with their privacy are going to this alt. this coin can't be the main coin overpowering bitcoin. just look at how many governments are cracking down coins like xmr. and besides, not many crypto users are oriented to use this privacy coin. they will most likely go to the top coin, which is bitcoin.
Exchanges are afraid of listing monero in their platforms because of different regulations that are hunting them. Monero is easily delisted on exchanges and it affects the coin and exchanges listing it.
But according to AmoreJaz, not everyone is privacy oriented in this industry. Those who has need for privacy are going for monero coin. Talking about dominance or popularity, bitcoin cannot be overtaken as it is the only truly decentralized coin.
797  Economy / Economics / Re: Which problem will you choose to solve? on: August 24, 2023, 02:51:06 PM


I came across this tweet, so the reference is the username. I thought it was a topic worth bringing up for discussion to see the choice that will be made by forum members. This topic is about solving problems as a service you render to make a living. Which of the problems will you prefer to solve as a service you render? the problems of the poor? or the problems of the rich? (support your choice with a reason)

I posted this here because it relates to choices we make concerning how we want our finance to be, if this is a wrong place and the topic fits better in "politics and society", I will be happy to move it there.
I would like to solve the problem of the rich rather than that of the poor. A rich man problem will be specific and once that problem is solved you will be paid for it and that ends it. But a poor man's problem might not be one, as you are solving one, another problem is evolving.

Even after solving the problem of the rich, if there is a fault anywhere, the rich will not panic, they will talk calmly about it. I am speaking from the experience of rendering services. I have rendered services to both the rich and the poor. After fixing a particular thing for the poor, and there is slight fault or error they will panic as if their money is gone or as if the world is ending that day  the rich whose problem is very limited does not stress the problem solver.
798  Economy / Economics / Re: How to avoid over expenses and have discipline on: August 24, 2023, 02:28:59 PM
Being careful in what to spend money on is not only about having a list of what you intend to buy at the mall or other narkets, what is important is being discipline. If you are not discipline then you could make some spendings not listed in your book because you allowed yourself to be distracted into something else. There is no rule that says if you have written something on a paper then you can't change the figures but it is discipline that will make you not to change it. Therefore someone who is discipline not to over spend outside his budget would not do that no matter the distraction.

Do you know being disciplined doesn't happen overnight? It's a process and there are steps you would have to take in order to be disciplined.
Having a list of what you need to purchase before going into the store is a step that helps the undisciplined individual try to remain focused on just the items on the list. Wouldn't you agree? Having a list with you when shopping so you wouldn't stray from the items listed is you literally trying to disciplined and careful on what you buy.

Someone who spends money always on irrelevant things can't overnight, become disciplined and strong willed about his spending habits.


You both are saying the same thing from a different angle. I understand Palle11 as he said that it takes discipline to stick to budget. Using the shopping instance, you may have a list of what to buy, but due to you are not disciplined, you will not respect that very list and still go beyond your budget. In other words, a highly disciplined person without a list may decide not to spend more than $500 and it will happen, whether with or without a list.
Having a budget is in no doubt a step to avoiding unnecessary expenses, but it takes discipline to stick to the budget.
799  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Is greeting important in your culture? on: August 24, 2023, 10:21:25 AM
In my culture greeting is important, it is a sign of respect and humility. What about in your culture?
I am a Nigerian and I can tell you that I have been in the shoes of what you have discussed or maybe I am a victim of this greeting topic. Nigeria has many states and different cultures. I am from the south. But when I traveled to the western part of Nigeria, I understood that they value greeting very well and when they greet, rlthe prostate until the Elder reciprocated by accepting the greeting before they will stand up. When I was in the West, I started greeting as often as they do, but I do not bow. After some years I came back to the Southern part of Nigeria Where I belong. I started greeting everyone, but they could not respond and they saw it as an unnecessary act. I was sometimes an embarrassment to me. But within few months, I understood that I have travelled to another part of life. I stopped greeting unnecessarily

So, some cultures attach much importance to greeting while others do not.
800  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Is politics everyone's business? on: August 23, 2023, 12:40:30 PM
It is not about being interested to participate in politics or not. What actually happens is that the game of politics is so bad in some countries such that no sensible and upright man would want to involve in such a dirty game as they fondly call it. If the politics and the political system of a country is very sane, you will see good people will join politics and in the end of the day you will have a very good government.

But then if the bad and the corrupt are in charge of the political system and have corrupted the whole system. That is why you see some people saying they don't want to involve in politics.
Regardless of how bad the leaders are, politics is everyone business. We must always participate in politics for the benefit of all. Because when we the good ones fail to participate in politics the bad eggs rules and mess up the economy, steal whatsoever they which from the Treasury. To stop them is for all to get involved in the politics and lead to correct the wrong of the bad ones
There is a saying that if you cannot beat them you join them. This very saying has its effectiveness most in the politics. And that is why you see the politicians jumping corridor at every political calendar year. In some parts of the world this set of people have formed a cartel such that if you are not in the circle, you cannot benefit from the system. And if you are in the system, you are automatically corrupt. No new body can be allowed to enter the system.

Which I maintain that there are some sane persons that would not want to stand their hands in order to play the dirty game of politics. Starting off afresh with like minds will still need you to fight against the cartel which has already been established and have been deceiving the society for so many years. They can easily turn the people against you.

It takes more than one mind to achieve what you are saying. So people who may not be able to risk it all will simply exempt themselves from politics and allow it to remain in the hands of the ugly politicians.
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