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7921  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Using PayPal to Buy and Sell Bitcoin on: September 23, 2011, 02:51:42 PM
It's now illegal to purchase an old baby crib, but you can give it away free with the purchase of the mattress. Seems odd, but that's what happening.

Heh, that's an old trick that ticket scalpers tried ... and the reason they use that is not necessarily to make them less likely to get busted, but actually to make the buyer feel more comfortable about making the purchase.   (which is really bizarre, because buying a ticket above face value is not against the law, just selling the ticket above face is where the problem arises in most jurisdictions.)

Here's an example:
  - http://www.lsureveille.com/news/the-c-section-free-football-ticket-with-50-pen-an-illegal-scalping-tactic-1.2629704

But Bitcoin is different, .. it isn't against the law to trade.  At some level of trading it may become necessary in some jurisdictions to register as a money service business but if you are describing how miners can sell a few BTCs on ebay, I hardly would think that would apply.  

So it is simply a matter of PayPal's user agreement prohibiting the use of PayPal's payment network when trading bitcoins.  And as long as you as a seller aren't relying on PayPal to help you should a chargeback occur and don't mind them freezing your account and holding any funds that you had in the account (or doing a clawback against your bank account even), sure -- your idea should work just fine.
7922  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Article: Citi Bank Slaps Down Bitcoin on: September 23, 2011, 04:50:07 AM
When someone says "money laundering,"  "terrorism," or "child pornography," the ability to carry on an intelligent conversation just ended.

That would be three of the four horsemen of the infopocolypse:
 http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Four_Horsemen_of_the_Infocalypse


7923  Other / Beginners & Help / Re: Something wrong with bitcoin7? on: September 22, 2011, 07:51:37 PM
There is an account on this forum named "Bitcoin7.com" and they are active within the past day.  Perhaps you could try a PM:
 - http://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=22480

There was another inquiry, with a response by them here:
 - https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=44390.0
7924  Economy / Web Wallets / Re: New block explorer type site needs testing / feedback on: September 22, 2011, 07:31:39 PM
Data looks like it is missing most of September.  Data issues?
7925  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Bitcoin payments and prices notifications (HTTP, SMS, e-mail, IM) on: September 22, 2011, 07:18:12 PM
TransactionRadar.com has an API, and I believe this could be used to help to detect when a race attack for double spending is in progress.
 - http://transactionradar.com

Use of this for sending a subsequent "warning" notification should a double spend attempt be detected would be useful.
7926  Bitcoin / Development & Technical Discussion / Re: wallet size on: September 22, 2011, 07:11:07 PM
does it grows unlimited?
can i shrink it somehow?

Yes, wallet.dat will continue to grow as you receive transactions.

Is it really a problem?  Rarely it will get above a few MB for the typical user.

One method to "shrink" a wallet is to create a new one and send funds from the old one to it.  Though if you ever receive additional payments to addresses in the old wallet they don't automatically go to the new wallet.

Are you instead referring to the blockchain (the blk*.dat files?)    That is growing continuously and is nearing 1 GB of storage.   (Though for most computing systems, 1 GB is a trivial amount of storage)
7927  Economy / Marketplace / Re: Get $1 Risk-free Starting Bonus for Bitcoinica Here on: September 22, 2011, 03:34:59 AM
well, just like playing with the house's money in vegas ... sign me up for $1
sgornick
7928  Economy / Service Announcements / Re: [ANN] bitaddress.org Safe JavaScript Bitcoin address/private key [BOUNTY 0.1BTC] on: September 21, 2011, 09:36:34 PM
This is so close to having a low-tech Do-It-Yourself paper-based solution for merchants.

With this, the merchant pre-prints out a batch of these with the public-key only (and its QR Code) on paper (such as blank personal check paper stock)  (see below)
 http://www.amazon.com/VersaCheck-Refills-Personal-Wallet-Prestige/dp/B00134O78S

And then generated is the merchant's master (see below) to be kept secure which contains the public-key (& QR Code) and also the private key (& QR Code) for redeeming.

Then at the point of sale the cashier has a supply of these pre-printed "check" blanks with Bitcoin addresses (see below).

When the purchase occurs, the cashier fills in the amount and invoice # (or other identifier for matching to the point of sale transaction) and provides the check blank to the customer.  The customer, using a mobile, scans the QR code and sends the bitcoins.

The merchant's back-office already has the address registered with BitcoinNotify.com so when payment is made (on 0/unconfirmed) an email (or SMS) is received.
  - http://bitcoinnotify.com

The cashier places the check in the drawer as the customer has paid and proceeds with completing the sale.

After the shift, the merchant's bookkeeper matches up the checks from the drawer against the corresponding master which has the private key, scans the key and spends those funds to the merchant's master wallet / consolidation address.  The "master" strip can then be stapled to the check and archived for records storage without having to further worry about securing the private key.

This could work.

Here's what I picture a batch of three checks looking like:  [Edit: obviously, each of the three would have a unique bitcoin address code, but being lazy, I just did a copy and paste using the same code for all three]


And the merchant's masters corresponding to the checks:
7929  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Coming Very Soon, a real Bitcoin you can hold! (and is worth 1 BTC) on: September 21, 2011, 07:02:53 PM
They would have to destructively tear off the hologram to read the key.

Would there be any relatively common scanning technologies (such as those used at a forensic lab or for medical purposes?) that could read this code without tampering with the sticker?
7930  Economy / Exchanges / Re: [ANNOUNCEMENT] New bitcoin exchange site for USD/BTC www.BITSTAMP.net on: September 21, 2011, 06:49:35 PM
Why did you have to spam my inbox with this?

Appears that I too received from this exchange an unsolicited commercial email (UCE, aka spam) at an email address that was only used with Mt. Gox, one of the 30,000 email addresses now "out in the wild" after the June Mt. Gox hack.

We don't know the circumstances with this mail campaign -- perhaps there was a misunderstanding with a third party opt-in service or something.  Generally, however -- an organization asking for trust (holding customer's funds or bitcoins) shouldn't engage in activities such as spamming in which trust becomes instantly obliterated.
7931  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Google wallet.. good for bitcoin? on: September 21, 2011, 12:41:32 AM
I don't need more convenience at the expense of my every move and purchase being tracked, logged, and sold to corporations to develop their advertising focus.

Just wait until you see what they are doing next ...
 Movenbank - Banking w/ their KYC based on mandatory Twitter, Facebook and Mobile w/ NFC
 - http://www.banking4tomorrow.com/2011/09/the-reboot-of-banking-now-the-work-starts

 SynerScope - Link your bank transactions with every other transaction about you.
  "Connecting the dots" with web traffic, payment transactions, mobile call records, IRC logs, etc.
 - http://synerscope.com/products
 
7932  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Bitcoin Digest on: September 20, 2011, 09:54:48 PM
I couldn't agree more .  I want something sent to my e-mail inbox that is clean and filters out the noise!

A daily email containing just the few posts for the day is available for BitcoinNews.com from:
 http://feedburner.google.com/fb/a/mailverify?uri=bitcoinnews/VUCh&loc=en_US
7933  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Bitcoin Digest on: September 20, 2011, 09:29:42 PM
The Coinbase podcast series might be useful to you.  http://www.agoristradio.com

Additionally, the @BitcoinNews Twitter feed:  http://twitter.com/bitcoinnews

Or for a little bigger firehose of bitcoin news, the Twitter list: http://twitter.com/#!/bitcoinnews/bitcoin
7934  Bitcoin / Project Development / Re: [PAID] Publish result of Days Destroyed calculation on: September 20, 2011, 10:44:10 AM
Someone was screwing with the network at the time, I would guess.

OK,  I am only halfway thru this thread, but I had to comment on this before I read the rest.........

How is it possible for someone to "screwing with the network at the time,"

It probably was referring to how the timestamps do not necessarily have to be in chronological order -- due to having tolerance.

- http://en.bitcoin.it/wiki/Block_timestamp
7935  Economy / Trading Discussion / Re: Bitoption Status Thread on: September 20, 2011, 05:17:20 AM
I see the site has changed and now says it is undergoing "finalized support for market makers".
 - https://bitoption.org
7936  Other / Meta / Re: Other non-English Language Subforums on: September 20, 2011, 12:12:06 AM
Incidentally, there are Wiki sites for many languages as well:
 - http://en.bitcoin.it/wiki/Bitcoin.it_Wiki#Internationalization

English
French: Français
Chinese: ‪中文(中国大陆)‬
German: Deutsch
Russian: Русский
Spanish: Español
Italian: Italiano
Polish: Język Polski
7937  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: a small suggestion for ppl who make physical bitcoins on: September 19, 2011, 11:11:49 PM
A date would be good though for collector's value sake.

The transaction when funds were "loaded" to the physical bitcoin has a date and time.
7938  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: a small suggestion for ppl who make physical bitcoins on: September 18, 2011, 07:27:08 PM
there will be situations where you cant check is the address really have that bitcoins or not, so i expect ppl will make offline bitcoins checkers, if the date is on the coin ppl can easily accept or not the bill/coin

I'm trying to understand how having the item marked with the date helps to make it easier (safer ?) to accept.
7939  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Bitcoin video demonstrating advancements in the bitcoin universe on: September 18, 2011, 05:43:03 AM
The purpose of the video will be to educate non bitcoiners and to hopefully draw them into the bitcoin experience.

Then you definitely want to touch on http://www.casascius.com

Also, as person-to-person (P2P) purchases increases with recent innovations such as AirBNB and Zaarly, for instance, or even for purchases with the older P2P methods, eBay and Craiglist, there are instances where escrow would be useful.  One of the more widely used Bitcoin escrow services is BTCrow.com -- perhaps that would be a great service to feature.
7940  Bitcoin / Meetups / Re: Events - Meetups, conferences and other events on: September 17, 2011, 09:44:40 PM
Next Generation Cards and Payments
October 11-13, 2011
Brussels, Belgium
http://www.nextgencards-payments.com/s662/

An excellent directory of banking related conferences:
 - http://rbrlondon.com/events/conferencediary
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