I’ll admit I went overboard with Sportsbet although everything is true. Long history with Jeremy, Steve and another after I gave them a “C” rating. Lots of attacks in my thread and elsewhere. I cannot recall reading your thread therefore I do not know anything about it except for what have written here but if you accept you went overboard constantly attacking Sportsbet then I hope that part of your posting has come to an end. With Pmalek he posted Sportsbet is his favorite book although he's not part of Sportsbet. Pmalek doesn't always tell the truth about Nitrobetting, otherwise I find him a great poster. I got blindsided because I didn’t see the false attacks coming from Pmalek. Him stating his favourite book is irrelevant and it does not seem as though he attacked you and I have not seen any false attacks. It seems you are taking almost every opportunity to attack one company you do not like and the problem here seems to be that you are associating any member that either is part of their signature campaign or simply providing positive comments without attachment as part of them. It is unnecessary for you to do that. edit, I sure hope that you aren't accusing me of anything with Blackjack.fun. I stay in scam accusations and my thread. No, I was pointing out similarities between you and another specific poster that is all. I’m not looking to continue petty arguments but will reply to this. With this case I'm not sure how people can take Sportsbet's side if it's a jurisdiction infraction. If the OP is from the UK and deposits $50,000, makes one bet and wins $3000, can Sportsbet take $53,000. They should take the $3000 winnings and return the $50,000 deposit. I have no problems with these cases if winnings were voided and the balance returned. It’s not my intent to rock the boat and I admitted my mistake but I don’t need lectures from anyone on how and what to post. Normally I'm respectful to all posters that don't attack. You are the one coming to conclusions here about what happened, when not even the OP told the whole story. I said that I don't know what happened. Quote below is what I said. author=Rating Place I don't have any idea if the player is guilty or not of a first time infraction or multiple infractions. We all should wait, including myself, before taking sides |
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Update | SportsBooks | | | Rating | | | Year | | | Country | | | KYC | | | MISC | | | Promos | | | Support | | | ANN thread | | | | | --------------------- | | | -------- | | | -------- | | | ---------- | | | ------ | | | ----------------------------------- | | | ------------ | | | ---------------------- | | | ------------ | | | | "A" rated books | | | Betcoin | | | A+ | | | 2013 | | | Curacao | | | 1 | | | Racebook, Poker, Two Books | | | | | | | | | | | | | Nitrobetting | | | A- | | | 2021 | | | Costa Rica | | | 1 | | | Racebook and Poker | | | | | | | | | | | | | "B" rated books | | | | | | | | | | Fortune Jack | | | B+ | | | 2019 | | | Curacao | | | 2 | | | opened as casino 2014 | | | | | | | | | | | | | Bitsler | | | B | | | 2015 | | | Curacao | | | 2 | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | Cloudbet | | | B- | | | 2013 | | | Curacao | | | 3 | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | "C" rated books | | | Betfury | | | C+ | | | 2020 | | | Curacao | | | 3 | | | - | | | | | | | | | | | | | Maverickgames | | | C+ | | | 2020 | | | Isle of Man | | | 5 | | | - | | | | | | | | | | | | | Roobet | | | C+ | | | 2019 | | | Curacao | | | 5 | | | - | | | | | | | | | | | | | Trustdice | | | C+ | | | 2019 | | | Curacao | | | - | | | - | | | | | | | | | | | | | Wolf | | | C+ | | | 2019 | | | Curacao | | | - | | | - | | | | | | | | | | | | | Duelbits | | | C | | | 2020 | | | Curacao | | | - | | | - | | | | | | | | | | | | | Owl | | | C | | | 2021 | | | Curacao | | | - | | | - | | | | | | | | | | | | | 500.casino | | | C- | | | 2016 | | | Curacao | | | - | | | - | | | - | | | - | | | - | | | | MBet | | | | | | 2017 | | | Cyprus | | | 2 | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | coinroyale.com | | | C- | | | 2016 | | | Curacao | | | - | | | - | | | - | | | - | | | - | | | | mint.io | | | C- | | | 2021 | | | Curacao | | | - | | | - | | | - | | | - | | | - | | | | Parlayplus | | | C- | | | 2019 | | | - | | | 2 | | | - | | | | | | | | | | | | | Sportsbet | | | C- | | | 2016 | | | Curacao | | | 3 | | | Racebook | | | | | | | | | | | | | Stake | | | C- | | | 2019 | | | Curacao | | | 4 | | | opened as casino 2014 | | | | | | | | | | | | | Rollbit | | | D+ | | | 2021 | | | Curacao | | | - | | | - | | | | | | | | | | | | | |
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Someone needs to call shrink asap, because one of the worst patients escaped mental institution and he needs to be returned their quickly. He changed his name and he imagined that his worthless casino ratings are relevant to anyone  I don't mind a little ribbing but at least be funny or use new material next time. Repeats don't make me laugh. I didn't want to call anyone else out of the Sportsbet guys, but here's one of them that use to stalk me. |
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<Snip> This entire wall of text is completely off-topic and unrelated to this case, and I don't care about it. You reminded me of that other person (your alt account) based on your praises for particular casinos and your username, and I was right. You are the same person. It's completely irrelevant to this scam accusation what any of the casinos/sportsbooks you like to highlight and shill are doing or what they did in the past. Focus at the subject in hand if you want to be taken seriously and stay off the shill pills. I find is strange how this thread has been derailed over a period of time and it has coincided with the time when the OP has stopped posting too. Looking at this from a neutral perspective, there really have been far too many walls of text related to when the Rating Place account posts. Clearly he has an agenda against Sportsbet and it is similarly uncanny in the sense that a certain member is chasing/trolling/harassing Blackjack.fun. This entire wall of text is completely off-topic and unrelated to this case, and I don't care about it. You reminded me of that other person (your alt account) based on your praises for particular casinos and your username, and I was right. You are the same person. It's completely irrelevant to this scam accusation what any of the casinos/sportsbooks you like to highlight and shill are doing or what they did in the past. Focus at the subject in hand if you want to be taken seriously and stay off the shill pills. My thread opened in 2014, it has 258,000 views talking about Sportsbook ratings and the only people that call me a shill are you Sportsbet guys. Two questions: First, he is wearing a Blackjack.fun signature and an eXch avatar therefore why call him a Sportsbet guy? Second, name who you think are the Sportsbet guys. I’ll admit I went overboard with Sportsbet although everything is true. Long history with Jeremy, Steve and another after I gave them a “C” rating. Lots of attacks in my thread and elsewhere. With Pmalek he posted Sportsbet is his favorite book although he's not part of Sportsbet. Pmalek doesn't always tell the truth about Nitrobetting, otherwise I find him a great poster. I got blindsided because I didn’t see the false attacks coming from Pmalek. edit, I sure hope that you aren't accusing me of anything with Blackjack.fun. I stay in scam accusations and my thread. |
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khaled brother here is the reply from rollbit when i asked them for my betslips idk how to post images here because im fairly new but here is the imgur link : https://imgur.com/a/xvFJYvo that’s wrong of them to conceal information. I hope someone can bring them in here. |
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<Snip> This entire wall of text is completely off-topic and unrelated to this case, and I don't care about it. You reminded me of that other person (your alt account) based on your praises for particular casinos and your username, and I was right. You are the same person. It's completely irrelevant to this scam accusation what any of the casinos/sportsbooks you like to highlight and shill are doing or what they did in the past. Focus at the subject in hand if you want to be taken seriously and stay off the shill pills. My thread opened in 2014, it has 258,000 views talking about Sportsbook ratings and the only people that call me a shill are you Sportsbet guys. |
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Thank you for your PM.
I have just contacted them with this thread`s URL and I hope that we will hear back soon.
Ok. Appriciate it. Dont execept any response from them though. The guy running the site, koinkraft, called me an "abuser" in their discord yesterday. If any of the readers have read my inital post, kineko themselves are under no illusion that I am an "abuser" when talking with them before I published this thread. It is my interpretation that this "abuser" wording is used to disarm this thread. But facts do not lie, do they? If I am an "abuser" why would they strike two withdrawal agreements? Proof: https://imgur.com/5s1b6F9 https://imgur.com/VlNwdy2If I am an "abuser" why would they increase my maxbet from 10k to 12k, 12k to 18k and 18k to 20k? Proof: when I publish my bet history. You will see my max bet steadily increasing through out the half year. If I am an "abuser" why would they personally invite me over email to their new sportsbook in November 2023? Proof: https://imgur.com/THUwqPTIf I am an "abuser" why would they pay me 1000 usdc in their wagering competition in Janary 2024? Proof: https://imgur.com/a/L6Mufh7I want to add an important detail. I have wagered on the largest events and bet on odds available for the whole market (bet365, stake, betsafe and such bookmakers had similar odds). I can post my bet history to back up this claim, if this is of interest. Koinkraft goes on to claim that "decision was made to freeze his account after through analysis of his betting pattern and bet history." My account was frozen yesterday. I had access and could be freely place bets until I published this bitcointalk thread. My account was not frozen. Also Koinkraft's claim that they did "through analysis of his betting pattern and bet history". What can one say? It is as believable as it exist flying monkeys. Greed bleeds through this project. Can you see it? what does he mean by “abuser”? How was there abuse after thorough analysis of your betting history? Are your bets on sides and totals or are there prop bets? Posting wagers does help. |
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This is a tough one since playing from the same household and computer with multiple accounts is banned everywhere. It sends a bad precedent if they make an exception. If someone can get Rollbit in here maybe they will make an exception. This dollar amount is small to cheat a book but more details are needed to see what happened.
I always ask if you can show us bet slips. I like to match up bets with the lines and limits. Can you post your bets.
Well, sure the household, IP and so on thing is just as on most other sites, yet it is not a 100% punishable criteria according to their rules. According to this it might still be possible to use both accounts after verification.  It wouldn't make a lot of sense to confiscate 140$ and lose 2 players because of this. Only if you tried to circumvent limits or abuse promotions, that's a different story. nice find. Looks like he was betting esports so we need a Rollbit rep to check in. |
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This is a tough one since playing from the same household and computer with multiple accounts is banned everywhere. It sends a bad precedent if they make an exception. If someone can get Rollbit in here maybe they will make an exception. This dollar amount is small to cheat a book but more details are needed to see what happened.
I always ask if you can show us bet slips. I like to match up bets with the lines and limits. Can you post your bets.
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Agree that I don’t know what happened other than intent. If the OP played from a banned jurisdiction at Betcoin and some others, then Betcoin would return his money. I am sorry, but I can't take you seriously, and I don't trust your neutrality. You seem to be motivated by other factors. Shilling Betcoin while pulling down other bookies you don't like. You remind me of another account (which might actually be your alt account based on the username) that praises Nitrogen Sports on every occasion. Sportsbet can’t keep stealing money. Yesterday Sportsbet stole $500 from an another player claiming attempted double spend using a rule stating “ in our sole discretion”. It was the same as the last one. At first they accused the player of multi-accounting and the changed to double spend using this rule. 7.6 If we determine, in our sole discretion, that you are using the "Double Spend" methodology, the Website shall void all bets and winnings. Specifically, if you win, then confirm your deposit on the Blockchain and attempt to withdraw, all winnings will be confiscated and your account will be closed permanently. We shall also exercise this right where similar activities are attempted from any connected accounts. I am not aware of the case and can't comment on your judgement. Regarding double-spending. Sportsbet.io has instant deposits. That means, you can play with your bitcoin even before the transaction confirms on-chain. However, you won't be allowed to withdraw your funds before the deposit transaction has been confirmed on the blockchain. If you attempt to manipulate this feature by double-spending, while at the same time requesting a withdrawal, then I completely agree with the casino for confiscating the player's balance and banning him. If that's what happened. It's manipulation and cheating and deserves to be punished. One does not mistakenly double-spend a bitcoin transaction. But if the player did so to bump the fees to get a quicker confirmation, it's a completely different matter, as long as the bumped transaction didn't go to another address not under the casino's control. I find it a little strange that Sportsbet is the only book grabbing deposits for attempted double spends. They started off with multi-accounting and then changed to double spend since the rule is "in their sole discretion". Sportsbet and Stake are the only two that I’ve posted negatively about and it’s due to recent problems. You make a lot of false allegations. I asked Theymos to change my username and he was nice enough to do it. I know that Sportsbet is your favorite book but you have to be objective. I’ve praised BC.game a couple of times recently, "Great job BC.game and all casinos should follow". I don't even have a rating up for them yet. I praised leebit 2 days ago. I praised Trustdice a day or two ago. You also ignore the times that I've stated Sportsbet is correct. I used Betcoin because I could have proved my point if needed. I'll continue to praise the good books and call out the bad. The goal is to help players. You want to back Sportsbet for an obvious theft while being unfair to Nitrobetting. When you were saying untrue things about Nitrobetting, at first I assumed that you didn't know better. Now I know that's not the case. Whenever someone asks why Nitrobetting isn't on your list, you continue to be untruthful even though people corrected you on multiple occasions. You are the last person who should be questioning motives. I have no idea why you keep posting erroneous information on Nitrobetting when you know it’s not true. At the same time, I don’t care why you do it. I don't think Sportsbet gives bonuses for sports gambling. The other reasons aren't plausible because of the markets bet and dollar amount. No book cares about a $500 bettor in a major market. It's not going to draw attention.
My guess is banned jurisdiction but I could be wrong. The whole point is that no advantage was gained by the bets of the player. We have to start treating these cases as they would with a fiat book. Fiat and crypto have almost identical ToS. Books just apply the ToS differently. I play at crypto books because I don't want to be hassled and believe that the bitcoin price will rise. There's too much hassle going on with some of the crypto books. Assuming that OP did accessing from UK, and thus violate their restricted region ToS, I believe this question you made earlier are now answered? [...]Sportsbet - give us one reason why a guy would multi-account betting $500 in major markets?
Oh, one thing that I forgot to address on the beginning of our discussion today, that question is actually... wrongly worded. OP was never accused of multi-acc, he simply got his account blocked upon withdrawal request, which now [if we assume the UK theory] become apparent why such situation happened to OP and why would a guy pull a stunt for USD 500 bet. Nonetheless, moving on, I am still interested in knowing more about your method to "figure out any crime" as it might be beneficial for future cases, so I'd like to repeat, " how do we figure motivation and intent? I assume user's narrative plays a big role in it, so it invites a question of how do we know they tell the truth and not hiding things, thus obscuring his intent and motivation?" Look for why a player would want to cheat a book. Circumventing limits, bonus abuse or bot use to gain an advantage is almost always the reason. Someone that only value bets may be using a bot. If all bets are value bets in small markets, he is using a bot. If someone is betting mostly widely available lines, he’s honest. Players getting an advantage is what books look out for. If a player posts 10 of his plays, he can easily be profiled and we’ll know what he’s doing. I've done a little bit of everything in the industry although things are 1000x more advanced now with biometrics and AI. If someone thinks they are going to get away with multi-accounting, they are dead wrong. Services such as Veriff are really good. AI is used for betting patterns. All data is being stored. Back in the day the only worry was multi-accounting and sharps. The only thing that needed to be looked at were bets to see if there was a reason to multi-account. If the bets were all value bets then this player had to be limited or banned. These people also needed to be looked at for multi-accounting because they get banned and limited everywhere. Players that only bet prop bets have to be looked into. Female players are also a red flag for multi-accounting. The thing back in the day is that it was no harm, no foul. The book didn't search for every rule in the ToS or look for loopholes. Deposits weren't being confiscated. Some books even paid out bad lines that other books cancelled. They would give you the choice. Take your winnings and get banned or cancel winnings and keep playing. Today the books are doing a lot of scamming. If a player breaks an inconsequential rule, by the letter of the law his money can be taken. I believe if there is no intent to cheat a book, then don't take his deposits. Looking at bets speeds up the process. If the bets aren't value bets where you can arb or take the weak side, then there is no advantage to the player. If there's no advantage it's not that big of a deal if you are playing at a banned territory since it's an even playing field. The book let you play there so they can't all of a sudden grab your deposits. The books that steal deposits have the right to steal by the terms. But what about terms such as "in our sole discretion". If the ToS is against something that a judge would throw out in court, then the ToS should be ignored. If not ignored then us players have to stick together and stop books from taking advantage of us. If you have players post all their bets, I’ll give you real life examples and tell you if there is ill intent. It’s similar to the last BC.game case. I took a look at the OP’s bets. He’s making pre-game bets on major football leagues. There’s no reason to multi-account. What caused the red flag to ask for KYC? I don’t know if you are using Veriff as a third party but they are pretty good with identity but this criminal behavior claim doesn’t seem to hold any validity. There’s no money laundering going on for this amount. If he did something at another book it doesn’t carry over to your book. Player should be paid from my point of view unless I’m missing something. This seems to be an overreach by Veriff or another third party being used. BC paid and I respect their decision. There wasn’t a lengthy process where BC.game searched to find something irrelevant. |
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I am failed to understand how do you find a connection and similarities of this case with one from BC. How is this case similar with BC and which case is it? OP barely tell us the whole story, and evaded my attempt to breakdown his complaints. I personally think there are a lot more than meet the eyes with OP's case, let alone make a connection on similarities with cases with BC.
And how do you figure motivation and intent, if I may ask? How do we know if someone tell the whole truth and made his intent clear instead of hiding things and distort his intent?
we know there wasn’t ill intent since the only reason to multi-account is to circumvent limits and abuse bonuses. OP did neither. I’ve seen cases at Betcoin where a player makes bets from a banned jurisdiction. Betcoin cancels winnings and returns the deposit. Sportsbet has to stop stealing deposits on first time infractions. And if they claim double spend, then prove it instead of using ToS “ in our sole discretion”. Speaking in general manner, I would like to argue that the reason for multi acc is not strictly to circumvent limit [an action made by casinos where they only allows player to place bet to certain value at max] or abusing bonuses. There are numerous others. Evading ban, evading self-exclusion, manipulating gambling pattern detection [they made new account before their abusive gambling pattern triggered casino's flags], even bypassing limit [as in withdrawal limit, not the betting limit] imposed for an account. Speaking specifically for this case, how do we know that this player does not abuse bonus or do anything detrimental? And circling back to my original question, how do we figure motivation and intent? I assume user's narrative plays a big role in it, so it invites a question of how do we know they tell the truth and not hiding things, thus obscuring his intent and motivation? I don't think Sportsbet gives bonuses for sports gambling. The other reasons aren't plausible because of the markets bet and dollar amount. No book cares about a $500 bettor in a major market. It's not going to draw attention. My guess is banned jurisdiction but I could be wrong. The whole point is that no advantage was gained by the bets of the player. We have to start treating these cases as they would with a fiat book. Fiat and crypto have almost identical ToS. Books just apply the ToS differently. I play at crypto books because I don't want to be hassled and believe that the bitcoin price will rise. There's too much hassle going on with some of the crypto books. |
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It is ridiculous and unbelievable. How is it possible that if I win and ask to withdraw money, I will be banned because I won the Manchester City and Wolves match by less than 7 goals. This is an international crime and these are scammers. Is there any update about your issue? The reason for your account lock might be different, they haven't blocked you for winning the bet. You should submit a complaint on Askgamblers against them for having a better solution. There are 13 complaints against TrustDice on Askgamblers, 12 of them have been marked as resolved. I just checked the last four complaints, all those were in favour of the TrustDice team. Was this bet live? The pregame total was less than 6.5.
It was obviously a live bet. The pre-match odds was around 1.10× for that scoreline. I just wanted to make sure the book didn't put up a bad line. Those should be cancelled. |
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This case is the same as the one against BC.game. In both instances the players made bets in major sports leagues. Here it's NBA and EPL. There's no reason to multi-account. BC.game made the right decision and decided to pay the player. Sportsbet should do the same.
When trying to figure out any crime, look for the motivation and intent to commit a crime. The OP has no reason to commit a crime here and multi-account. The dollar amounts aren't circumventing limits and the lines are never advantageous at Sportsbet. Pay the player.
Sportsbet - give us one reason why a guy would multi-account betting $500 in major markets?
I am failed to understand how do you find a connection and similarities of this case with one from BC. How is this case similar with BC and which case is it? OP barely tell us the whole story, and evaded my attempt to breakdown his complaints. I personally think there are a lot more than meet the eyes with OP's case, let alone make a connection on similarities with cases with BC. And how do you figure motivation and intent, if I may ask? How do we know if someone tell the whole truth and made his intent clear instead of hiding things and distort his intent? we know there wasn’t ill intent since the only reason to multi-account is to circumvent limits and abuse bonuses. OP did neither. I’ve seen cases at Betcoin where a player makes bets from a banned jurisdiction. Betcoin cancels winnings and returns the deposit. Sportsbet has to stop stealing deposits on first time infractions. And if they claim double spend, then prove it instead of using ToS “ in our sole discretion”. Here's the latest case changed from multi-account to double spend. They disabled my account with 500$ balance
My username is Example6578, and they took 500$ from me. I deposited money to this website, first of all they dont allow me to withdrawal and ask me for KYC which I did. And then they rejected my withdrawal again and asked me via email for KYC again. I did everything they asked and then they blocked my account and said that I have another account Solarwind70, which is not true...
And now I am not able to login and my funds are gone they took everything from my account.. I dont know what I should do now, take care. They dont answering anymore via email, which is also a sad story for me
UPDATE: IT IS NOT TRUE, PLEASE BE CAREFUL EVERYONE
Date of experience: May 06, 2024 Hello Example6578, Thank you for sharing your feedback and we’re sorry to hear that your experience on our platform hasn’t been positive. Our top priority is to provide an experience that’s Fun, Fast, and Fair for all users, while strictly adhering to our set of guidelines. This creates a sense of confidence and security in our community. After a thorough investigation by our Player Safety and Assurance Team, it was determined that there was a violation of rule 7.6 in our Terms and Conditions, which you can read here: https://sportsbet.io/help-centre/help-other/help-other-terms-and-conditions/general-terms-conditions. We appreciate your understanding that this decision is final and will not be subject to further review. If you have any further questions or concerns, please feel free to email us at hello@sportsbet.io. Best regards, William Sportsbet.io Staff |
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When trying to figure out any crime, look for the motivation and intent to commit a crime. The OP has no reason to commit a crime here and multi-account. The dollar amounts aren't circumventing limits and the lines are never advantageous at Sportsbet. Pay the player.
Sportsbet - give us one reason why a guy would multi-account betting $500 in major markets? You can't possibly know what has happened here and what the player isn't telling us. There are so many questions left unanswered, and it seems he is only sharing what he wants to share. He said that he talked to Steve, but we don't know what about. Judging by his last post, it's got something to do with the United Kingdom. The UK is a restricted jurisdiction on Sportsbet.io. It begs the question, how did he register and play at the casino if he is from there? I am not saying Sportsbet decision is the right call, but I am saying there isn't enough information here to side with either party. Agree that I don’t know what happened other than intent. If the OP played from a banned jurisdiction at Betcoin and some others, then Betcoin would return his money. Sportsbet can’t keep stealing money. Yesterday Sportsbet stole $500 from an another player claiming attempted double spend using a rule stating “ in our sole discretion”. It was the same as the last one. At first they accused the player of multi-accounting and the changed to double spend using this rule. 7.6 If we determine, in our sole discretion, that you are using the "Double Spend" methodology, the Website shall void all bets and winnings. Specifically, if you win, then confirm your deposit on the Blockchain and attempt to withdraw, all winnings will be confiscated and your account will be closed permanently. We shall also exercise this right where similar activities are attempted from any connected accounts. Some of their rules in their ToS would be thrown out in court. Sportsbet took deposits again. |
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It is ridiculous and unbelievable. How is it possible that if I win and ask to withdraw money, I will be banned because I won the Manchester City and Wolves match by less than 7 goals. This is an international crime and these are scammers. I will ask for a lawyer because it is very dangerous. 7860 USDT    A lawyer is a waste of money and isn’t going to help. Askgamblers is a good place to go. Was this bet live? The pregame total was less than 6.5. |
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This case is the same as the one against BC.game. In both instances the players made bets in major sports leagues. Here it's NBA and EPL. There's no reason to multi-account. BC.game made the right decision and decided to pay the player. Sportsbet should do the same.
When trying to figure out any crime, look for the motivation and intent to commit a crime. The OP has no reason to commit a crime here and multi-account. The dollar amounts aren't circumventing limits and the lines are never advantageous at Sportsbet. Pay the player.
Sportsbet - give us one reason why a guy would multi-account betting $500 in major markets?
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Sorry, but what is the connection between their verification requirements and your gambling addiction? I am guessing they don't allow you to play because you can't pass SOF verification. Is that it? If you are an addict, I hope you can get control of your life and seek professional help in order to recover.
OP has created another thread about his issue in Service Discussion board: stake.com Neglecting Gambling Addiction Protection, Lack of Fund SourceThis is how OP has described about his gambling addiction to Stake team: The message I sent to support explains the addiction 20213/03/17 :
Hello
to team stake
Mar 17, 2023, 7:19 PM
I swear to you, stake is the best in the world. But I lost more than 240,000 usdt in a roulette casino this week. I swear to you, I am in great shock. I don't eat anything. Please give me credit and compensate me for my losses. I will not forget this for you. I cry all day.
Now OP is complaining that Stake team didn't close his account by seeing that message. They hadn't asked him to complete the source of funds verification when he deposited big amounts and lost there. And it seems like Stake team has recently asked the OP to complete the source of funds verification, and he is facing difficulties to complete the process. Frankly speaking, the message he sent doesn't look like a self-exclusion request message or gambling addiction message. The user had described about his losses and asked for lossback by sending the email. Like all other casinos, Stake has a proper system for Self-Exclusion Policy. OP hadn't followed the method. this is interesting. If you lose $240,000 they don’t ask source of funds. If you win $12,000 then you get asked for source of funds. |
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We sincerely apologize for the inconvenience caused by our customer service team locked the account before the settlement of your sports bets. We have reactivated the withdrawal permissions on your account. You are now able to proceed directly with the withdrawal of all your funds, including the winnings from your settled sports bets. Should you encounter any further issues or require assistance with your withdrawal, please do not hesitate to contact our support team.
Great job BC.game and all casinos should follow. You entered the thread, explained the problem and then made the proper decision. A tad longer than two weeks but not bad. All should try to get things done within two weeks. Even when a casino rules against the player, a ruling should be made in two weeks. |
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If FJ says that you can’t bet sports then they shouldn’t be able to force a rollover in the casino. FJ should let the OP withdraw his balance or allow sports betting to complete the 2x rollover.
Can’t do a bait and switch after receiving funds.
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Betcoin, Nitrobetting and ParlayPlus are pretty good as far as not asking for KYC. If they ask, you've done something wrong. Stake and Sportsbet are bad with KYC since innocent people seem to be getting caught in the net. Delays can be long. Maverick and Roobet are mandatory KYC. The rest are in the middle as far as sportsbooks go.
Not really. Nitrobetting aka Nitrogensports held my money hostage for weeks many years ago. They asked me to verify and log in with a "unique IP", not even allowing to use my phone carrier IP, it was hilarious. And even after I took care of absolutely everything they still let me wait around 5 weeks to finally let me withdraw. Of course they had their baseless multi account question like "what is your connection to user 12345678", which was total nonsense. So please don't name a site like nitro to be trustworthy, KYC free, and so on, because they are not. Sure KYC might be annoying but sportsbet.io and stake both gave me 0 troubles regarding that, I verified right after registering and was never asked for anything again. Sure I am not a fan of stake overall, they deceived their players a lot with promises that were never upheld, but KYC was never an issue, just the empty promises. That’s absolutely crazy to be holding your money for 5 weeks. Sportsbet and Stake are still the most intrusive by far with the longest delays. Proving source of funds is insane. Even when using the exact same third party for ID checks they are always getting declined by Stake but accepted at other books which makes no sense. |
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