Since it is possible to detect majority of all nodes in the p2p network by visiting the bootstrapping irc channel, it seems fairly easy to determine where exactly all the nodes are in case any attempt to disconnect Internet, seize hardwares or some other action ever occurs. Is this something to be concerned of? For example, I can determine all the IP addresses of p2p nodes available and then proceed from there. |
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no reason to change that, as other clients only try to connect to 8333, afaict. IRC only advertises IP, right? No, both IP and port are encoded in the #bitcoin IRC usernames (see the EncodeAddress/DecodeAddress routines in irc.cpp). (so mizerydearia: no need to do what you done did...) Mm... On a slightly unrelated issue. Since it is possible to detect majority of all nodes in the p2p network by visiting the bootstrapping irc channel, it seems fairly easy to determine where exactly all the nodes are in case any attempt to disconnect Internet or seize hardwares ever occurs. Perhaps another thread should be used to discuss this. |
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no reason to change that, as other clients only try to connect to 8333, afaict. IRC only advertises IP, right? For IRC I set my user name to 8332 and my real name to 8333 as per server connection configuration and then connected. /whois necrodearia
[necrodearia] (8332@address.net): 8333
* [necrodearia] #bitcoin-dev #bitcoin
* [necrodearia] peacock.heliacal.net :Chicago, IL USA
* [necrodearia] idle 00:00:09, signon: Tue Sep 21 07:46:38
* [necrodearia] End of WHOIS list. Using this method, it is possible to embed port numbers that a client is using into their IRC connection so that ports are not restricted to 8332 and 8333. I suggest implementing this or a related implementation into a future version of Bitcoin. Satoshi o/ |
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It is "of course" for you, but how? Well, it depends on what you mean by project. If you are referring to a project for creating the animation that is supported by the bounty contributions from this thread, then I have no idea. I am not aware of any active projects as of yet. If you mean project as in this thread as being a project to offer bounty, incentive for an animation to be produced/designed, then unless everyone that offered to contribute retracts their offer, I imagine that it will continue. Patience is a virtue. ^_^ There is no need for rush. In fact, the longer that it takes for an animation to be produced, the more potential for the value of the bounty to increase and to possibly create even more incentive. |
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Of course, however, the community must* attract cg artists in order for this idea to take off and for quality Bitcoin-related animations to be common or exist. * If you participate in art/cg/design communities, mention Bitcoin if it seems convenient to do so. It would be amazing for artists to create or participate in a kind of community that offers compensation in Bitcoins for designed works. Slightly unrelated: http://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=909.msg10901#msg10901 |
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As long as Bitcoin community doesn't contain 10,000+ developers, trac seems suitable. Trac can communicate directly with the SVN repository and track live changesets that are linked to ticket IDs. http://retrospectiva.org/ looks interesting and it is based on ror, therefore it is obviously a serious bug tracker for adults |
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please remove me from the list, I gave up on this and uninstalled, thanks!
'this' as in the pay it forward project or as in bitcoin? I suppose to give up on 'bitcoin' would be similar to giving up on other types of currencies as well, and in such cases giving them away or destroying them. Or perhaps it's similar to giving up or quitting smoking, in which bitcoin in some way is detrimental to one's health and is necessary to prevent further association with or consumption of. I suppose in the sense that a new currency is existent and is currently limited in use cases compared to already established currencies, many individuals who put little to no effort into developing, contributing or helping to establish its use or future potential may pursue a kind of 'giving up' on Bitcoin since it doesn't meet a kind of expectation of currency as recognized by general society and ease of use of existing dominating currencies. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_currencies is a list of currencies, many in which you may notice several similarities to Bitcoin (e.g. difficult or time consuming to obtain) that could also actively be 'given up' on. However, it is likely that those types of currencies do not garnish any interest or attention and therefore unlikely to be considered as necessary to give up. However, additionally, it may be a currency that one has previously had none of and therefore is not in a position to 'give up' on considering lack of use. Humm, I'm not sure what my point is. I think I'm rambling. I give up. ^_^ lawl nelisky | | \|/ |
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<necrodearia> If I want to create a new mimetype to be handled by a cross-platform application that I am writing and to work across a variety of linux desktop environments, where would be a good place to start learning? <roxxo> necrodearia: maybe the XDG specification? <loomsen> necrodearia: freedesktop.org maybe |
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Yet another solution is clipboard monitoring. E.g. pop up when client copies "Send XXX bitcoins to 1e30430430843989UIURIUE".
That may be difficult to implement across variety of operating systems, especially if Bitcoin client were to be implemented on portable devices. |
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Regarding avoiding governments to shut it down... well... if it ever gets sufficiently widespread to threat their monetary policies, you may be sure they will try to shut it down. But... how do you shut down a P2P system?  By labeling everyone who participates as a t3l2l2ol2ist and slapping them with fake charges to aid in prosecution. Imagine: The LARGEST t3l2l2ol2ist network to have existed as of yet. Word intentionally obfuscated. p2p systems cannot be shutdown unless internet connection is barred !!
But the masses can become afraid by instilling fear |
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well. from my practice doing something and not knowing exactly why is not really good way to do things. Once someone will need such module for Drupal - let me know. my email is pavel@yepcorp.comO RLY? Kinda liek Bitcoin, eh? ^_^ |
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How to grow the Bitcoin idea and avoid that governments shut it down?
Help make sure well over 50% of the businesses using bitcoin are legitimate, tax-paying, regulation-complying business entities Don't forget the obligatory unwritten 1% Satoshi tax that you should manually calculate. |
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If it is possible to see individual or total of transactions sent to a specified bitcoin address, I suggest someone to write a patch to make this available in APITotal of transactions sent to specified address (or label) are getreceivedbyaddress <bitcoinaddress> [minconf=1]
getreceivedbylabel <label> [minconf=1]
Individual transactions can be dumped from 'listtransactions' patch, though that lists all addresses including desired bitcoin addresses. Does this work for addresses that do not belong to you? $ bitcoind getreceivedbyaddress 17NdbrSGoUotzeGCcMMCqnFkEvLymoou9j
0.00000000 If not, is it possible to determine as I asked above, but for all addresses, not just ones that are in wallet.dat file? |
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Maybe when gavin's mime type implementation is useable, someone could write an SMF plugin and then this forum should be the first SMF forum to use it. |
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If it is possible to see individual or total of transactions sent to a specified bitcoin address, I suggest someone to write a patch to make this available in API |
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Pestering them about a Bitcoin button is not a good idea. It was a gift, not a bribe.
Just give them the Bitcoins and follow up in two weeks. 2 weeks 2,419,200 seconds Same amount of time as expected time to generate 2,016 blocks |
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