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8141  Local / Débutants / Re: 50 % de frais de transfet normal ??? on: July 20, 2017, 11:32:58 AM
ok effectivement je viens de retourner sur coinbase les frais de réseau   sont de 1 euros quelques soit le montant (je suis aller j'usqua 500 euro Grin)
la faute a moi je n'avais pas vu merci pour vos réponse
dernier demande pouvez vous répondre a ma dernière question je peut virer des ethereum et litecoin sur le portefeuille blockchain (https://blockchain.info/fr/wallet/#/) ou pas ? si non pouvez vous me conseilliez des wallet

Oui sur Coinbase ces frais sont fixes peut importe le montant. Le portefeuille blockchain s'est exclusivement pour le Bitcoin. Donc tu peux pas. C'est comme si tu voulais essayer de mettre une roue de Peugeot 103 sur une Audi A4 Cheesy. Tu l'as peut être loupé mais tu sais que sur ton compte Coinbase tu as un wallet Litecoin et Ethereum?. Sinon ben tu utilises leur wallet respectif ou bien tu peux trouver des wallets qui supportent plusieurs cryptos en même temps du genre Exodus, Jaxx ou Coinjar et Holytransaction pour des versions en ligne
8142  Local / Débutants / Re: 50 % de frais de transfet normal ??? on: July 20, 2017, 09:35:52 AM
Ces frais là, ce sont les frais de réseau pour traiter ta transaction.
Quand tu as fais la transaction tu n'as pas fais attention que le montant total (transaction+frais) de la transaction était supérieur à la transaction initiale. Quand tu finalise l'envoi, il est marqué un message du genre, etes vous sur de vouloir envoyer XBTC à <adresse Bitcoin>




Si tu veux choisir de payer moins de frais, dans ce cas il faut que tu change de wallet pour un autre qui te laisse decider des frais. Concernant ceux en ligne, il n'y a que Bitwala (et Blockchain.info?) ou tu peux choisir les frais à ta guise.

Tu peux utiliser https://bitcoinfees.21.co/ pour savoir quoi payer
8143  Economy / Exchanges / Re: Best Bitcoin websites? on: July 19, 2017, 03:58:52 PM
You can consider Paymium if you want to buy using SEPA transfer or bank card. As you are from Spain you can top up your account with a SEPA transfer. Paymium doesn't ask any verification ID up to 2500$€ (buy/sell/trade included together) Kraken was fine but you can have a long delay, so I don't know if you' are in hurry. I use Paymium myself and no problem, I can't say top notch support as I never need anything lol. But I know they are kind with people

BTC in last few years many bitcoin websites are trying to attract the new bitcoin users.most famous bitcoin websites are Block chain,FreeBitco,BitcoinTalk,Coinbase,BTC-E,CoinDesk.

Dude try to read the OP at least. The member is looking to buy Bitcoin and you tell him...Coindesk, Freebitco...zzzzzz
8144  Economy / Web Wallets / Re: Bought bitcoins, 2 transactions in my bank account (same amount) on: July 19, 2017, 03:19:08 PM
You paid using your credit/debit card I bet? In this case, it is a normal practice. The same is done when you pay for a hostel, the gas station, automatic DVD shop, and some others things. They do this to be on sure to be paid for the quantity of product delivered (in your case: Bitcoin)
Of course, you won't be charged 2 times for the same thing. Depending on your bank system, you will get refunded, or simply the system will delete the second transaction from your bank history and it will be like if nothing happened (1 transaction only)
8145  Economy / Economics / Re: Bitcoin vs Taxes on: July 19, 2017, 02:41:27 PM
If you sell Bitcoin for Fiat, then you have to pay taxes.

If you didn't buy some bitcoins then nope. You pay taxes on the profits made from buying and selling only

However, taxation on bitcoins and its reporting is not as simple as it seems. For starters, it is difficult to determine the fair value of the bitcoin on purchase and sale transactions. Frequent traders and investors could use "first in, first out" (FIFO) or "last in, first out" (LIFO) accounting techniques to reduce tax obligations.

Not difficult, you know how much dollars you injected and how much dollars you receive from sales. It's up to people to keep track records of the money spent to buy

Well bitcoin kinda is already taxed, but only for US citizens, and only after you convert it to a Fiat currency. So we kinda have to deal with the high fee situation and the capital gains tax situation, but I will concede that most likely, virtually no one is paying proper bitcoin tax. I  use the Shift card that Coinbase offers; I'm subject to sales tax on my bitcoin purchases, which is interesting.

Bitcoin is taxed not only in the US, there are several countries as well. Is no one paying taxs on Bitcoin? There are a loooot of people and companies paying those taxs. And trying to avoid to pay those is the same as looking to cheat the country, the population, own friend, family, etc. If people cheat the taxs then they shouldn't be eligible for a lot of things in their own country


Miner fees are much better than taxes. As you know government taxes are more than miner fees. So it is better that bitcoin is taking fees on transactions etc by miners. I would prefer that miner’s fees are much better than taxes. Taxes would decrease the demand of bitcoin in a market. If there is no demand how bitcoin will run?

You have to pay taxs on food, do you see a decrease of food market/demand?
8146  Local / Débutants / Re: Prêt pour le 1er aout ? on: July 19, 2017, 11:32:43 AM
Tout support dont tu n'as pas de clés, genre les wallets en ligne de type Coinbase, les plateformes d'échange du type Kraken, les wallets sur téléphonne (?). Pas de clé, pas de bitcoin, tu reposes seulement ta confiance en celui qui les gère. Et peux donc prendre une décision à ta place avec laquelle tu ne sera pas forcément d'accord. Je ne connais pas le wallet blockchain.info et le vault de Coinbase je suis même pas sur de savoir l'utilité Roll Eyes
8147  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Bitcoin blogs list? on: July 19, 2017, 11:21:31 AM
Is nobody reading themerkle.com ? It's one of the few I like to visit daily. It's not 100% related to Crypto, it covers technology, finance and security which are some topics I have interest about. I like because they publish some type of articles that you rarely find with others and the site is not filled with ton of harmful advertisements like some
8148  Bitcoin / Press / Re: [2017-07-19] Kraken Estimates Last Quarter’s Trading Volume 10x Previous High on: July 19, 2017, 07:49:54 AM
It can explain indirectly all the horrible delays people are facing there, for verifications, deposits, etc. If it's a general trend that can be observed with others exchanges, it's a good signal for the cryptocurrencies. I hope to see them updating all the thousand support tickets from people in waiting mode
8149  Economy / Services / Re: WhyFuture.com Twitter Campaign on: July 19, 2017, 07:27:18 AM
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8150  Other / Beginners & Help / Re: Bitcoin Wallet without transaction fee on: July 18, 2017, 09:30:56 PM
Cryptopay was not deducting any fees on outgoing transfers until recently, 2-3 weeks ago. Now there isn't any except Paymium (but it's not a wallet, it's an exchange) There is a wallet with low transactions fees but I don't remember the name...Airbitz or a name similar (and possibly it's a Mobil wallet) I saw a lady on twitter showing us she needed to pay something like $0.15 to make the transaction. Another cheap alternative is Bitwala that let you choose the fees you agree to pay. But in this case, there are lot of wallets that let you choose the fees
8151  Local / Échanges / Re: Smartcoin.fr Arnaque 50€ faite attention. on: July 18, 2017, 01:38:27 PM
J aime bien l'argument: bonhomme regarde ma chaine youtube. C'est vrai que c'est tellement important et évocateur. Et puis les insultes c'est vrai que ca fait très pro je trouve. On voit tout de suite le mec qu'en a pas marre du tout de fournir une aide. Même si l'autre partie à tord, faut quand même savoir prendre sur soi. J'espere que tu trouvera plus serieux quand il s agit de resoudre des problemes

Mais attend... Paiement par SMS et appel surtaxés, c'est pas le genre de service ou tu paie 1.5€ l appel pour être crédité genre 50 centimes Shocked
Y a des gens qui utilisent vraiment ca?
8152  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Confidence Returning to Bitcoin? on: July 18, 2017, 12:15:08 PM
Only the weak hands jumped to sell their coins immediately. Others have taken the opportunity to buy cheaper and are already making profits. Remember last month? Exactly the same situation, and exactly the same panic and exactly the same come back.
#HODL
8153  Economy / Speculation / Re: Will bitcoin dip below 2000 again before Aug 1? on: July 18, 2017, 11:44:52 AM
It may be a coincidence but see https://twitter.com/BITMAINtech/status/886839997440995328
As soon as Bitmain announced all its pools would begin signalling for the SegWit2X upgrade, the Bitcoin value started to jump like a crazy

We can`t be sure that this is going to be a hard fork.
Some exchange platforms cancelled their deposits and withdrawals, they are all waiting for August 1.
This is have impact over bitcoin trading,so i expect another price fall.
People will be too afraid to trade,send and receive bitcoins and the price will go down for a few days before and after August 1.

What?  Shocked Can you tell me which platform are cancelling deposits/withdrawals until the August 1? I have not read something similar. So please kindly post a source here. Because on Bitcoin news websites or here, I have not read something like you are telling and I am a little surprised if it's true
8154  Economy / Web Wallets / Re: Funds stuck in BIT.AC Wallet. No reactions from administration. on: July 18, 2017, 11:25:04 AM
Unfortunately, nothing much you can do other than keeping emailing them and/or sending a message in the forum. And of course stop using this website, until the problems are resolved. Give them at least 24 hours to reply to your support ticket, as it's not a company over staffed I guess. It's never funny when you lose money, I hope your problem will be fixed asap. You can also find some recent complaints from members here, you may find a hint. Good luck still Sad
8155  Local / Le Bitcoin et la loi / Re: Rapatriement en devises on: July 17, 2017, 09:20:55 PM
Je voulais dire "Tu verras pas de grande differences" Mes excuses...
Ce que je voulais dire par la, c'est que ces cartes sont toutes fournies par la même entreprise: WaveCrest donc ils ont tous des frais plus ou moins similaire (C'est comme des revendeurs si tu veux) Par exemple en comparant tu verras que les frais pour un retrait à la tirette c'est quasi tout le temps 2.25€ peut importe si tu as eu ta carte sur Xapo, Cryptopay, Spectrocoin...

Avant il y avait une limite (de 2500€ si je me souviens) on avait pas besoin de donner son identité en dessous. Mais depuis le 1er Mai, tous les citoyens et résidents francais doivent fournir les preuves d identité et autres avant de commander la carte. Et les autres pays d europe, ils ont eu la limite baissée à 250€ (je crois)

Ca m étonnerais fort qu ils envoient des infos quelque part dans notre pays, sinon les cartes du genre PCS , ect le ferais deja...
8156  Economy / Exchanges / Re: Warning to Kraken users - trading not working properly on: July 17, 2017, 07:21:00 PM
I got this weird thing not long ago, I didn't understand what could be done this so I was blaming myself. As it does not happen every time if you noticed. Glad to read that it's not a mistake from my side and that I am not the only one.
8157  Economy / Trading Discussion / Re: Where would you invest $100? on: July 17, 2017, 05:21:48 PM
While BTC and ETH are the best ones here, you can hardly make a good amount of profit with your initial $100 investment. Basically, because these are already expensive ones, they will not double in a week's time. I would suggest you go with those that are on top but still on the bottom part. You may have Litecoin, Ripple, Siacoin. I personally have some Adex also. Very new but promising.

It depends on what you are calling "a good amount of profit". Getting a 10 or 20% profits I wouldn't call it bad. Still better than the 0.75% yearly we get in banks (as in my country). You can find a new altcoin just fresh and invest some bucks. If the price triple after 3 months you get 300$. Of course, more you invest more you can earn. But starting with 100$ you can still make something good
8158  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: SegWit2x support growing day by day, WHY FORK FUD and PANIC on: July 17, 2017, 04:26:48 PM
You forgot that most of the people, especially here, just repeat like a parrot what they read 2 hours back. Often without knowing what they are talking about. Yesterday I asked for fun to a guy who loves to speak about Segwit, etc, "What is a fork?" He couldn't give a simple answer Cheesy You can test it yourself with your friends here. Make 10-20 posts saying Bitcoin will go below 1000$. The next day most of the people will repeat "Bitcoin will go below $1000" and add their twist "Better you sell now"... One week after, you will then see those same people posting "Nothing will happen, we all know that"  Cheesy
8159  Economy / Trading Discussion / Re: Can you suggest a better way?? on: July 17, 2017, 03:26:12 PM
It has been advised here and there multiple times to not hold any bitcoin in a wallet that you have no control over. Simply because you don't have access to your private key. No private key, no Bitcoin. It's available these days because the August 1 is coming, but you shall keep in mind this advice all the days of the year. You can keep a small amount in an exchange for example for your day trading, or in an online wallet for your daily transactions, etc.
8160  Economy / Service Discussion / Re: [LIST] Free EU bank accounts that you can be opened directly online on: July 17, 2017, 02:39:04 PM
revolut.com now gives you a full EUR IBAN (Lithuania)

It should work with all the exchanges.
@HostFat
Did you read the news about Revolut this past week? They plan to add Bitcoin and other cryptos as well since a lot of people asked for. People will be able to exchange and spend crypto currencies. It will start with Bitcoin and gradually they will add some others. It will surely give a boost to this start up
https://news.bitcoin.com/uk-fintech-start-up-revolut-to-adopt-bitcoin-as-it-raises-66-million/
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