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8261  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Good time to buy BTC on: September 11, 2017, 06:54:43 PM
Now good time to buy Bitcoin?
Please share your opinion.
If you do target for long term then anytime would be the best time to buy bitcoin but if you do make short tradings then for now on the current price is too high and its much better to wait a little more because dips would really happen later on specially on the recent China regulations for sure price would be affected on this one and if we did see the dip then better to buy on those points.
8262  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Service Discussion (Altcoins) / Re: Question about pump and dump groups on: September 11, 2017, 04:55:16 PM
A lot of people say that they are a scam because the admins buy the coins before the pump and then announce the coins and once the price increases they sell them off while the members of the groups lose money. My question is why can't the members also sell their coins after the increase. A small profit is still a profit, right? You can still make small profit with pump and dump, yes you won't make 100% profit or even when 50% but you'll still make a profit. Please tell me why is my thinking wrong.

well most pump and dump groups turns to be a scam. because you didn't know when they dump the coins. if you smart enough sell it when you gain a little of profit. and don't wait for the signal

That's what I'm saying. Make a profit and sell. Rinse and repeat.
If youre lucky enough to enter on those prices which you do see that you earn some amounts then if you are not waiting for the signal and you are wise enough then you would do such thing.Exiting as soon as possible if you do see the chances but if you are completely blinded because of your greed then you will surely wait for their signal but the truth is you are just being used for them to make money.
8263  Economy / Trading Discussion / Re: Time management. on: September 11, 2017, 04:28:23 PM
Most of us have a daily responsibilities.
How do you manage your time in trading and in bounty campaign as well as researching for the news and updates of your favorite altcoin?
I am an office worker and I am also a student in a private high school. If you think I can not do various activities then it is a mistake. I share the best time possible because my goal is to earn a lot of money. I sometimes spend time with bitcoin on holidays, I rarely use time for holidays and rest. So set the time according to what we want. If yes then Sacrifice some activities that are not important enough.
Sacrificing other activities would really make you have some time engaging on bitcoin but you must not really forget to set some rest time because having lots of money would be useless if your health would be the sacrifice.Just like on my situation i do really set up some times which is really for rest time.Im not forcing too much my body to do things on making me money because health is still precious no matter what.
8264  Economy / Economics / Re: What will happen if we use a one currency only? on: September 11, 2017, 03:24:20 PM
No matter the currency, corruption will be always here. Having only one currency won't change anything or if it does it's only about to increase it. Since it makes it easier. Big firms, for example, are able to corrupt in any currency, in any language, in any country...

On another side, if the only currency is Bitcoin, it can help to fight the corruption. For example, when the population pays the taxes, we could see for what purposes the money is used and where it goes, since transactions are public.

1Taxes4eg5rcr82HmO4KhjhatBvf        ===> 1Health4dezrfHolrcelojJHfhkjh5sSlmsS (address for the social security/health)
                                                          ===> 1Edu4PjJ5Quht9jugtyrFno69fegvDRGH (address for school/program education)
                                                          ===> 1Infra4khftd2fyui7nuyt4dftyhYgyu15ni (address for  infrastructures: roads,etc...)
                                                          ===> 1Social54rftgre5rtgg78KIRgijsdcde4rgr (addresss for social help, families...)

I love the idea but i can still see flaws regarding on this one.Who would be the one to handle those wallets? Who are on the possesion on its access? I bet that argument would really be long for sure.Not all governments on the world wont do nothing about on having the control of such wallet for sure they would really aim on having the power. I do see chaos on this centralization on all the funds.
8265  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Service Discussion (Altcoins) / Re: Where can I get free Waves and Eth? on: September 11, 2017, 02:19:00 PM
Iam new to this campaigns and wallet and my first wallet is Waves wallet and this wallet contains fee I want to know what website I should go to? to get free waves I dont care if its small but its good if I could get the required fee for the wallet.

About ether wallet I don't still get it if it has fee so I want to ask if where can I get free Eth?

To be honest, most faucets are so small that even getting the typical .001 Waves fee will take some time.  It's not impossible, but it may take 20-30 pulls from the faucet to get it cleared.  Probably better off just dropping a small amount of bitcoin into your wallet.

Its true that it takes a lot of time to get 0.001 waves.  But if you really want free waves,  you just have to try hard and visit every hour,  for wavesgo and wavesdrop anyway its free,  you only need a bit of your time. For me,  I got. 01200 waves by just visiting at least 5 times a day when I just a newbie.

Is this really worth it? I think this is just kind of a waste of time. Faucets, after all, are more often than not just taking our time off and receive very little amounts in return. Faucets are more attractive to newbies and beginners but once they got the hang of how the crypto works they will leave them. You better invest a little as a start so that you will have waves. That would take no hassle from you.
Just let them on wasting their time on faucet things since we did really experience such thing thing too back in the past when we are still a newbie and im sure they would find out that this thing would really be worthless and does really such a waste of time later on.For waves you can get it on wavesgo same to those who have said above but for me there are things which is more worth for your time.
8266  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: How to earn Bitcoin without investment on: September 10, 2017, 07:43:00 PM
If you want get bitcoin without capital.  You can join on bounty.  many projects are running bounty campaigns. you can join but to get their coins then after the division and the coin into the market you can sell it and you will get bitcoin
yes that is right that one can easily earn bitcoin without any investment, by joining a signature campaign.
This is actually the most common thing on earning bitcoin without any investment which totally a good option for you to make.Just pure hardwork and effort they you got paid up by them.Sounds easy but somehow hard to join on them depending on how good you are on posting constructive things.Not only that you can earn bitcoin by joining altcoin airdrops or any bounty programs.There are lots of ways though.
8267  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Speculation (Altcoins) / Re: Will Altcoins Explode After Going Down For So Long? on: September 10, 2017, 07:00:24 PM
yes most will go Kaboom. Market is flooded with coins. Some must drown. Unless you are a fire ant.

Correct, we are in a huge speculation phase. Most coins outside the top 10 in market cap (and honestly, even a handful inside as well) are pure speculation plays, and don't currently offer any huge value propositions.

What we will see in the future - maybe soon - is a small group of coins break away and gain even more market share, while the majority of these multi-hundred million dollar market cap coins fall back into the "penny stock" valuations where they really should be. I think there is still money to be made by selecting a decent top ~100 coin, waiting for a pump and then dumping your coins. But unless it's BTC/ETH/XMR and maybe one or two others, I'm not holding for the long term.
This is really the risk on engaging on any coins in the market on which most of the price is just being hyped up specially to those coins who do have high marketcaps and as expected prices would really go to bottom soon because hype will surely gone and regarding on the image i do really laugh at it.lol. Altcoins with low supply usually have the chances of exploding up since prices can easily be manipulated or pumped up or dump down.
8268  Economy / Trading Discussion / Re: Trading altcoin and holding bitcoin which one is more profitable? on: September 10, 2017, 04:27:26 PM
I think trading altcoin is more profitable if you know what you are doing .I personally trade altcoins and at the moment i am all in altcoins just few btc.
Altcoins might be profiting big, but bitcoin gives an assurance or an trust for the holding amount. Majority of the users make an good earning through altcoins and hold those earnings for long term usage in the form of bitcoin. So both were mutually important for a bigger profiting.
Correct, alts are great money makers but are not the best when it comes to storing your wealth long term since most coins disappear after a few years but bitcoin is the first crypto and it is still here so that gives confidence to investors that bitcoin is not going to disappear overnight.

Right bitcoin has been standing strong ever since digital currency was announced and opened. I have also read that despite the may issues that bitcoin had in the past, it has overcome it and have reigned and gain higher intention because of that. Many people are using it but still there are many people who don't know about it.
Yeah, it is kind of a shame that bitcoin has not gained wide adoption yet but at the same time bitcoin is not ready, people have been arguing about the best to way to scale bitcoin and we finally adopted a solution segwit, so I think the next decade in the life of bitcoin will be one of huge adoption.
If Bitcoin has problems, we will SegWit, HardFork, split chain ... and this scenario always repeat make me do not know when is time for Bitcoin improved all!? But I'm trader, so I think do not need care to this issue many much, unless when I hold my Bitcoin for long term, I will consider that.
As an investor those things do really tires me out because even im an active trader i do still have some bitcoins who are really being kept for future purposes and when i saw dips it does really sucks this is why i just let it be.Now on my traders side same as yours i dont really care at all on those events since i do make active trades which everytime theres a news i do somehow anticipated on which where bitcoins prices would go on those times.
8269  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Speculation (Altcoins) / Re: 80% of all alt coins in negative % change at the moment on: September 09, 2017, 06:39:23 AM
What you could be the reason alt coins dumping atm besides, China?
indirectly, yes.
there was a lot of FUD in the past 18 hours about China banning bitcoin so a panic sell started. and whenever bitcoin price goes down, altcoins get dumped hard unless they are already being pumped harder. without exception.

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If China even has that big impact. Could it be connected with some of the published news yesterday that local exchanges will be taken down in China?
China has absolutely zero effect.
it is the FUD that affects the market. if China is wiped from the face of the earth tomorrow, i promise you that next week the FUD comes because of another country. possibly Russia. if Russia was wiped from the face of the earth it would be Korea, then another....

but so far China exists and everyone falls for the FUD every time. so it is easy.
Which this fud cycle continues again and again. Its not surprising which those fuds are usually the cause of such price decrease. China might give some effects but its not the thing to be worried of. People do always talk about it and it cant be avoided because we do have our own views or maybe just trolling.  Cool
8270  Economy / Service Discussion / Re: Cloud Mining? Good, Bad, Ugly? on: September 09, 2017, 05:41:26 AM
Hello all I am new here and have recently tried Cloud Mining with some success.

By some I mean I will (should) make ROI on the small amount of hash power I purchased.

  • My BTC mining generates ~20.00 USD each month but is on a contract that will expire once profitability is null for the cloud miner.
  • My ETH mining generates ~15.00 USD each month but is on a contract for two (2) years.

Its a small investment but it was mainly for testing if a scam.


My question is this:

Has anyone else tried out cloud mining with a limited contract based on profitability?

If so how long did it take to reach?


I have tried cloudmining but on hashocean scam which after that incident i didnt go back to invest on any cloudmining site.If you do mean either genesis or hashflare mining then i would say they are not completely safe even they are already operating for years now. Talking about profitability i would say it would be much longer because of difficulty rise. Since you do put up small amounts then its good just for testing out.
8271  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Service Discussion (Altcoins) / Re: EtherDelta offline? on: September 09, 2017, 03:31:24 AM
etherdelta (dot) gitnub (dot) io is 100% scam, don't login on it. Your private key is private, don't share it with any scam sites.
https://etherdelta.github.io/ it's the right one. Check the URL, not the https thing. It does not show that it is safe to give your private key.
Ive been nearly be fooled on those letters gladly my eyes were too active to see whats the difference regarding on the link.I didnt expect that this is an another desperate moves by those hackers creating another phishing links for the sake of money.For those noobs out there better watch out on this link and always log-in on the legit one which is being already mentioned above.
8272  Economy / Economics / Re: If you were in desperate need for money.... on: September 09, 2017, 02:48:18 AM
If that desperate situation is life and death moment. I will kneel down and asked for it in a good way. I won't take bad actions for it will only cause more problems. To repay the one who provide that money, I will worked double time, night and day and make extra side line or signature campaign for instance. But we all know that it changed when we're in that situation is different. So I just have to breath ang relax for a while and think of what is the best way to do in that case.
even you kneel down, nobody convinced to loan their money to you sir. because you dont have anything to guarantee your loan. or else you need to loan shark that have a big fee.
so i think that you need to provide much money for sake of emergency, like investing bitcoin or real estate even altcoin can help a lot in emergency.
In times of emergency it wont really matter and im sure i would do the same thing too on those times that you do have any options.Chances of getting some loans on that way is slim but its worth to try.Theres no harm to try it out specially your loved ones life is at stake.Kneeling down wont really be effective on this way since loan is a business not a charity but assuming there are still people who do easily got convinced because of his pity to that someone.
8273  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: Investing in ICO, still promising? on: September 09, 2017, 02:35:47 AM
I am a person that gains profit from investing in ICOs but now I'm having second thoughts. I know some ICOs are potential scam so I am really picky to where I put my money.
Anyway, considering with what happened to Ethereum price and with the nearing Aigist 1, do you guys think that it will still be profitable to invest on ICOs mostly on ERC20 tokens and those accepting btc payments?

ICO still promising . You just need to research some ICO that is worth it, ICO that grows fast . You need risk and invest to the that you think have a potential to success.
True,you would really need to risk in able to profit something because if you dont risk you wont potentially earn.ICO is really still promising as long we do hit the right project then we would really make some profits but thinking off that this wont really be easy considering that there are lots of ICO do launch recently which things make harder for you to select.This is why we should really research things up in able to hit the right projects.
8274  Economy / Trading Discussion / Re: How to know about next pump? on: September 09, 2017, 02:14:32 AM
Pump and dump is linked with greed and fear. At the moment in the  case of bitcoin the greed and belief takes it to moon.
Greed taking it higher..  and for sure some will be dumping .. but more new greedy buy those.. So its a cycle of bullphase..

Incase of altcoin the problem is second and thrird wave of bull activity is missing.. 



 

Ya. and any news on bitcoin will effect to the price. then we just try keep following all the news and be the first.
Either on Bitcoin or on Altcoin we do always seek out or would like to know first about the news related into it because we would really love to ride the possible wave that it would potentially give us profits later on but knowing on when theres a pump is nearly impossible but we do have indication that it might happen and as a trader its our own move on how to seek out those indications.
8275  Economy / Economics / Re: Can you really make money on Forex? on: September 08, 2017, 08:46:42 AM
if you are lucky, or experienced. Got budget. Of course you can.

An experienced person earns huge amounts of money on Forex. On the contrary, the newcomer may lose a lot of money. Beginners should learn from experienced people to engage in trading
It does really need knowledge and experience on forex.I would say that im a trader too on forex and binary options and now i did decide to engage on crypto trading too.I would say that they do have different volatility on prices.This is why i do decide to go in full time with cryptos because possible incomes might really be big in a short period of time.On forex it is somehow crucial but there are lots of millionaires on this field if you do really know on what you are doing.
8276  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Service Discussion (Altcoins) / Re: WARNING EtherDelta down / compromised? $1 Billion USD+ worth of funds on: September 08, 2017, 08:10:26 AM
Someone in this other thread https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=2159950.new#new claimed that they tried the .com and it worked.
Anyone else tried / can confirm?


Don't try that site or trust anyone's random comments on the internet

Best to wait until an official statement by Github, I can't believe they were down or suddenly deleted EtherDelta's repository
Either I, didnt tried to access the site with that domain since i dont really trust up on the things which are being said randomly and as you said its much better to wait for official announcements on Github. This thing do really give me some worry since i do stored some big amounts on the site i didnt expect that it would go down for now.Hope they would be up soon.
8277  Economy / Trading Discussion / Re: how to start trading with a very small amount on: September 08, 2017, 06:38:54 AM
Trading in very small amounts will lead to very small profits. Reasonable. I'd recommend increasing the number of your bitcoins to at least a small amount only at a glance. And with larger you can try some place to trade. In case if it will not be profitable in one, in another it will be at least something.
I think if you are starting doing trade for the first time even with smaller amount, the main focus should be on learning all the ups and downs instead of focusing on profit and loss. I will suggest everyone to go on with small amount and then keep on increasing amount when you think it’s feasible.

Yes, you are right every beginner should learn to trade with a small amount of money because without learning he might lose all the money which he invests. Trading is not one day it will take some time to get knowledge about trading so it is always good to trade with small amount and you can learn new thing about trading with that small amount only.
It would really takes time and you are right we should really need to put up small amounts when we are just starting not on rushing up on putting huge money because for sure you will really lose up that amount in no time.Jumping into things without any proper knowledge would really put you into trouble.Better to start on small then if you do see you are profiting gradually then its the time you decide to add up your capital.
8278  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Is China the core up holder of Bitcoin? on: September 08, 2017, 02:58:52 AM
i am sure that china holder big amount of bitcoin, i can see that in china there is many big mining company which operate and mining bitcoin. if we take a look in huobi which is market cny-btc, the bitcoin movement is so fast and if we are not familiar then we can not follow and take profit. the banning of ico yesterday is because the government wants to protect their citizen from being scam by the ico and they don't create regulations about the ico so if something bad happen they can not do anything.
I got your point just to think off that they are holding most of the biggest mining farms of bitcoin which we can really presume that they hold up some big amounts of bitcoin but even if they have such possesion they cant easily manipulate bitcoins price.They cant dump it easily they would decide to do such thing but i do consider them as whales which would really give impact on the price depending on what actions they would made.
8279  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Mining (Altcoins) / Re: Mining MONERO is a worthless endeavor nowadays...and it will only get worse... on: September 07, 2017, 05:37:12 PM
You can always switch to another Altcoin though, if one turns out unprofitable, find some less-known coin that seems just a tad promising, UBIQ, ZenCash and many others out there. Had tried Monero with my hardware and Minergate, wasn't making much. The minergate miner could be at fault though, didn't try another one.
True,if you found out that it is not profitable anymore on mining Monero then switch into other coin since there are lots of selections out there to be mined.Its not surprising for sudden mining difficulty jump considering that there are lots of people who do mine monero and also this thing isnt just happening on monero alone but most all altcoins in the market which is mineable either on cpu or gpu.
8280  Economy / Economics / Re: The Bear Case for Crypto on: September 07, 2017, 05:23:39 PM
Interesting article.  Thanks for sharing.

As for BTC, I think it's a slow development and it will take a long while before BTC is relevant enough to justify its current high price.  

I keep struggling to justify the current price of bitcoin as an actual currency/technology.  I think most of the current price is investor premium, which could evaporate very quickly, and probably will at some point.  In any case, while I don't think bitcoin is going anywhere, even in the long term, I don't think it's going to become any kind of default global currency.  I don't see any way of definitively determining what a bitcoin should be worth, which will prevent the price from ever stabilizing for long periods of time.  Without a more stable price, its use in commerce will remain limited.


Thinking off on making it as a default currency is not really possible.I dont know why some people do think off on this way on which they do really believe that bitcoin would able to reach such state which i do see it has slim chances or doesnt have any chances at all. Bitcoin is really depending on its investors on which anytime could really perish if all would decide to leave it.
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