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Fuck it I give up.
Sell it to the banks that is who it is designed for any way.
Sell it to wall street.
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Much better reply.. Thanks
Sorry for the negativity using a web site should be self explanatory. The point I am trying to make is that I am more computer literate than 70 percent of the people on the plant and I cant make heads or tails out of the site how is anyone else
I shouldnt need to read for 10 hours and have to look up a thousand terms
They post simple on the header and it is far from it.
If the site isnt ready or they dont really expect people to use it then . I will just move on. I have Thousands of trades and can offer a good amount of people to really build up the network, but if I cant tell them how it works or why they should use it or help with the problems that they have then I cant get them to join.
It shouldnt be so hard to figure this shit out.
You guy have a great flashy video on the site and a nice concept video on youtube, but how about one that is just a guy sitting in front of a computer walking you through the steps of how to use it?
Teach me how to use it and I will make a video, it would probably get a lot of hits
I know it is beta but most people would have given up a long time ago.
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This is my customer who has done what he said and had several successful transactions.
Beware of coindaddy he may have been scammed out of 6 k but it looks like he made up some of his loses by stealing from honest people.
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Tradefortress has recently come after me on this trust system. He's apparently irked about something on coinchat. He doesn't respond to pms but his accusation says that he 'risked' 1.5BTC on me. As I've never received any btc from him on this forum personally, and he has me blocked for pming him, I have no idea what to do about this accusation.
Another point is that I've never bought or sold any bitcoins, ever. Now that tradefortress, a "VIP" member has branded me as untrustworthy, I suppose that trading on here isn't an option for me if I were to be interested in the future.
Seems to me that the trust system is too subject to abuse by powerful members of the forum. I'm not sure what to do or how to resolve the attack on my reputation by a a powerful user here who even has my pms blocked.
Seems like a mistake. TF is a a bit of a bully though. No worries just make a thread about it and the truth will come out. Ask for him to provide evidence. |
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You are telling me that you got gifted 500 BTC and you have the nerve to charge 140 usd per BTC. You are a bigger dick than I could have imagined.
Show/Hide ignored creep.I could rush into a burning building, pull a puppy out, then perform CPR to bring it out of respiratory arrest, and you'd claim that means I'm into bestiality. Keep being ridiculous. Have you ever heard of paying it forward? You post that you have coins for sale at 140 dollars a piece when the market is 123 and that people have to come to your house in person to get them and that if anyone comments on how your price is fucking bullshit that you will neg rate them an that you where gifted 500 BTC and I am supposed to think you are some kinda saint Facepalm Like I said you are a bigger dick than I could have ever imagined. Your life will always be shit you selfish little troll. I am gonna hit ignore Good day sir. |
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What about other assets like derivatives contracts? Am I going to be able to buy and sell futures contracts? Simple Gateway Guide
This walks you through a simple ripple Gateway setup.
A Gateway must do two things
accept some form of deposit from a user and give the user Gateway IOUs. (Other -> ripple)
accept Gateway IOUs from a user and send that user payment. (ripple -> Other)
Getting started:
Set up and run rippled
Create a ripple account that will issue and redeem your IOUs. This is your Gateway Account.
Create a page to handle Other -> ripple
Create a page to handle ripple -> Other
Process for Other -> ripple
Collect from User their ripple Account where they want the IOU sent.
Once you get the money in from the Other source you simply make one RPC call to the ripple server to send the IOU to the user's account.
send an RPC submit: RPC API#submit
using something like this as the JSON: API Example Transactions#Basic IOU Send
User now has the Gateway IOU and can send it around to other people that accept your IOUs
Process for ripple -> Other
Collect from User the account they are sending from and the amount they are sending and whatever information you need to send them the Other payment. (Paypal address, dowlla ID, etc)
Tell user your Gateway Account address
Wait to see a transaction from the User's Account for the specified amount
You can either open a websocket to your rippled and handle the transaction events on your Gateway Account or
Periodically ask your rippled server for the recent transactions on your Gateway account and handle any payments
Once you receive the IOU back from the User you send the Other Payment. I dont even know where to start only a computer programmer could think this is a simple guide, man you guys need help What the fuck is a gateway? Create a page to handle Other? huh what? Process for Other -> ripple ? seriously Once you get the money in from the Other source you simply make one RPC? simply this is not simple!!! no explanation of what a RNC is when you get the money in from where how? send an RPC submit: RPC API#submit? no explanation what a API is websocket? Joel I have spent probably 10 hours dicking around on this site between today and other attempts in the past. I still have no fucking clue how to use your site. I dont know if you guys are trying to do to much or what? Look I am lucky if I can get a computer to turn on seriously my dad is a computer engineer who has owned his own software company for 20 years so I do have a little bit of experience. When you made this site did you only expect computer programmers to use it? Stop talk to robots and realize that human beings are going to be who users this. Should I just give up and come back in a year? I am all about building the fuck out of a trust network can I use you site to do that or not? |
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You are telling me that you got gifted 500 BTC and you have the nerve to charge 140 usd per BTC. You are a bigger dick than I could have imagined.
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If the highway patrol wasn't there individuals would get out of their cars and clear road debris
I think I can refute just about everything you said by way of simply pointing out that you don't understand human behavior, haven't witnessed it enough, and are biased by way of what you want to believe. Road debris is passed at 70 mph. By road debris, I mean ladders, lumber, chairs, bumpers, etc. In fact, it's nearly impossible to clear without a highway patrol running what is called a break, beginning a mile back. Ya right I havent been around dude you have no Idea what you are talking about. I have more life experience than you almost guaranteed my life has been a trip. Short list-- Spent almost 2 years on tour with widespreadpanic Spent 5 months in prison taken every hallucinogen know to man was in a fatal car accident where my girl friend was killed Owned several business watched my uncle die from pancreatic cancer was an auto tech for 9 years sunk my boat and had a 18 hour swim to shore traveled the south east on the north florida shroom guide am an ammature mycologist been living on my own since 17 live through hurrican katrina right on the gulf cost the eye pasted over me Am married with a son was on probation for 6 years have two felony convictions have lived in both rural and urban communities have paid over 100k to the state for various reasons Sold 480 thousand dollars worth of weed in 3 months Have carried over 100k in usd took 5 hours betwwen 2 people just to count And much more. I have been around |
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baltimore area. ive been picked up 3 times because of tickets over the years. they can't take what they can't find. blood from stones.  Wow 0.o how did you get a speeding ticket in the Baltimore Area? Thats where I'm at now, and they wont touch you if you are doing less than 20 over the speed limit. A friend and I got a friendly warning for going 93mph on I95, but I've actually never been ticketed. The best part about living around here, is the police in general aren't ass hats. I've found that if you aren't killing someone or peddling crack, they leave you alone. Must be nice |
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Human beings are self regulating people dont refrain from speeding because they think they will get a ticket the dont speed because they feel uncomfortable going fast.
There are exceptions, I am speaking to the real motivation that keeps people from engaging in risky behavior. It is not the threat of force from the state. It is the law of economics that people behave in ways that are in their own self interest.
If the highway patrol wasn't there individuals would get out of their cars and clear road debris, If there are no speed limits people would self regulate their speed, if there where no stop lights people would treat the intersection like a 4 way stop
The state is a gun pointed at your head everything they do is with the initiation of force against mostly peaceful people. Force and coercion is wrong not matter if it is the thief robbing the convenience store or the thief stealing from you with a badge they are both crooks who use guns to force other people to do what they want.
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I need a tutorial? You said I could offer PP. Can I make Paypal my issuer. I have tired messing around on the site a few times and every time I leave pissed off.
How the fuck do you use it?
Where is the order book?
Can I link alias to my ripple account?
Is there a way to find my contacts?
When I hit the link to be added to the mailing list it redirects to the home page? what up with dat?
Can I only pick 2 currencies to trade?
What if I want to offer BTC for PP or USD or MP?
IS bitstamp the only issuer at this time?
Where is a list of contacts that are issuers?
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I notice in the live feed that people are offering ILS what is that?
Also when I go the the live feed there is no back button, how to I get back to the main page?
Very cool graphic in the live feed though I dont really get what I am looking at?
I need a tutorial? You said I could offer PP. Can I make Paypal my issuer. I have tired messing around on the site a few times and every time I leave pissed off.
How the fuck do you use it?
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When money is presented in the form of IOU, there is always a risk of default. IOU money's value is always a percentage of the face value depends on the risk of the default. It does not have the same credibility as honest money like gold or bitcoin (no promise of future, works already paid)
Currency= fiat / bitcon Money= gold and silver/ commodity based The main difference between money and currency is that money is a store of value over time when 100 years passes and bitcoin is still valuable then you can start calling it money, but it wont it is just a currency! Stop comparing bitcoin to gold! Bitcoin is not real! and there is nothing honest about bitcon right now. Joel do you see what I mean? It is like beating you head against the wall to get people to understand the credit theory of money. You cant present money as an IOU it is an IOU. I can present an elephant as a cat but it doesnt change reality. What you are talking about when you are saying money presented as a IOU is called a loan! A loan is an IOU on a IOU Please watch these videos http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iquemUNNYY8http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jqvKjsIxT_8 Watch this one first. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tj2s6vzErqY |
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Which is it Joel are you working busily to comply with regulations or are you gonna let people do as they please?
There's really almost no conflict. Satoshi didn't violate any regulations when he made Bitcoin, so far as I know. Yet he built a system that lets people do as they please. What about money transmitting laws? If I use your system am I gonna have to register as a money transmitter? What about my other question am I gonna be able to list any asset in the future like bushels of corn? If so are you guys gonna 1099 me? Are you gonna do what paypal did to ebay sales? |
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Not looking good. Why didnt you start here TF? Shit if you wanted to debunk ripple start here. |
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I guess if I minted a piece of goldwith a promise on it you could open you mind a little. Think about what I am saying. That money is debt and the problem with the monetary system is not that it debt based but a ponzi scheme
You made a statement I debunked it. Moving on...with my "ridiculous" reasoning and logic. Sure you did. Try reading debunking economics by steve keen, followed by the new depression by richard duncan. Then you might actually understand the real problem with the global economy and not make statements like the problem with the current monetary system is it is debt based all monetary systems are debt based money is debt or credit or an iou or a promise how ever you want to look at it If you missed it I already said I agree with you on the part where our current IOU system is broken. You claimed Gold is a form of IOU where gold makes a promise. If you still can't see what I was getting at, there isn't much more I can say to get through to you. Moving on... Right we agree that the current system is broken, but for different reasons you say it is broken because it is debt based i say that all money is debt based even gold. That ALL money is a promise or an IOU "Innes goes on to note that a major problem in getting the public to understand the extent to which monetary systems are debt based is the challenge in persuading them that "things are not the way they seem" Graeber echoes earlier theorists such as Innes by saying that during these eras population perception was that money derived its value from the precious metals of which the coins were made,[6] but that even in these periods money is more accurately understood as debt. "When you make a promise to someone, it is equivalent to you taking a debt" Moving on.. |
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So if accounts can be frozen ....
remind me how this is any better than the current banking system that does that too?
Not accounts, balances. Nobody can freeze your account, and the freeze feature (if it was implemented) would only freeze a single balance, not an entire account. In any event, here's a repeat of my explanation in case you missed it: The "freeze" ability hasn't been implemented due to lack of demand. The restrict ability is implemented, but no gateways (that I know of, anyway) currently use it. These options have to be enabled for an account prior to any assets being issued by that account. So if a gateway chooses to use either of these features, everyone will know it before they choose to use that gateway. We don't want to tell other people how they have to use Ripple. We want to enable people to do what they want to do. Of course, we do want everyone to know what they're getting into and we want the rules to be hard to change after the game has started. We don't want to tell other people how they have to use Ripple Which is it Joel are you working busily to comply with regulations or are you gonna let people do as they please? |
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I guess if I minted a piece of goldwith a promise on it you could open you mind a little. Think about what I am saying. That money is debt and the problem with the monetary system is not that it debt based but a ponzi scheme
You made a statement I debunked it. Moving on...with my "ridiculous" reasoning and logic. Sure you did. Try reading debunking economics by steve keen, followed by the new depression by richard duncan. Then you might actually understand the real problem with the global economy and not make statements like the problem with the current monetary system is it is debt based all monetary systems are debt based money is debt or credit or an iou or a promise how ever you want to look at it "Innes goes on to note that a major problem in getting the public to understand the extent to which monetary systems are debt based is the challenge in persuading them that "things are not the way they seem" |
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Avoiding regulation is not one of our goals. In fact, we're working very hard to figure out how everyone from individuals to financial institutions can use crypto-currencies while complying with existing regulations Is this not a deal breaker for anyone else? Shit this is the kinda problem I was talking about. You guys are hung up on lines of code, dude comes out and says this and all I hear is crickets Just so I dont assume anything...what is your problem with it? What was your assumption? Is that not a problem for you? |
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I guess if I minted a piece of gold with a promise on it you could open you mind a little. Think about what I am saying. That money is debt and the problem with the monetary system is not that it debt based but a ponzi scheme
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