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901  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: OFFICIAL LAUNCH: New Protocol Layer Starting From “The Exodus Address” on: July 31, 2013, 08:40:33 PM
is there a windows client i can download?


i am eager to generate myself 100oz of non existent GOLD  and sell it on this crazy system!  Tongue


Heh. Even once the protocol is fully implemented, you won't be able to do that. Funds used to purchase a new currency go into an escrow fund which is used to maintain the target value of that currency.
902  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: OFFICIAL LAUNCH: New Protocol Layer Starting From “The Exodus Address” on: July 31, 2013, 08:38:39 PM

I would also add a section that attempts to model the economic behavior and effects of MasterCoin. How many mastercoins will there be now? Ever? How is the expected rate of Bitcoin-Mastercoin expected to behave under a few  scenarios? Didn't you have such text in the first version of the paper?

The number of MasterCoins is defined as the number which are purchased. The last revision of the paper did have a complicated scheme to make sure bitcoins stayed valuable long enough, but I took it out since that seems like less of a concern now that bitcoin is more mature.


0. What is the MasterCoin three letter abbreviation? You should clarify that your original MasterCoin, and the new "usurper" MasterCoin are not related in any way, and that you have prior claim to the MasterCoin name.

I did mention the usurper in the OP on this thread Smiley I haven't decided on a three-letter abbreviation. I'm open to suggestions.


1. Aren't you begging the question?

Quote

Summary
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The new protocol layers described in this document
...
Will richly reward early adopters of the new protocol, in proportion to how successful it is.



Assumptions
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New protocol layers on top of the bitcoin protocol will increase bitcoin values, consolidate our message to the world, and concentrate our efforts, while still allowing individuals and groups to
issue new currencies with experimental new rules. The success of any experimental currency protocol layer will enhance the value and success of the foundational bitcoin protocol.
Hmmm. Maybe. I'm open to suggestions for rewording that.

2. Fair release schedule

You should pre-declare a date on which you will reveal the precise exodus address. Since the protocol gives bonuses to early adopters on a per week (and part of) before August 31th 2013, which isn't too far away, the address should be revealed way before that, and ample time (at least 1-2 days, preferably 7 days) should be be given where no extra bonus is given. In other words, people should have at least a few days from the moment the exodus address is revealed, in which all funds sent to the exodus address are capped in the amount of Bitcoins they send. There can be a bonus for early adopters, but everyone should have a fair chance to invest.
The cat is out of the bag now. The exodus address is posted in the latest revision of the spec and in the OP here. (The one Ripper was looking atbefore didn't have the Exodus Address in it)

Nobody has sent any coins there yet though, and I am delaying my own purchase so I don't make everyone mad by getting the best exchange rate moments after the announcement Smiley


3. Who has the private keys for the exodus address? If it is you, this should be stated explicitly. It can also be a m-of-n address where there are n "MasterCoin project directors". Or rather, is this a sinkhole address like the original MasterCoin design, which has no feasible private key? (instead of this, you can send to an unspendable script which is guaranteed to be a sinkhole, not just computationally infeasible)
The Exodus address is controlled by a wallet in an offline-only computer running the armory client. I'm the only one with access right now, although my family does have a procedure to recover that wallet if I die.


4. Hiding MasterCoin Protocol Data in the Block Chain
I would rename it to Encoding MasterCoin Protocol Data in the Block Chain.
I think this section deserves some more elaboration on motivation and technique.

5. Fake bitcoin addresses require more explaining. How does one generate a fake address? Where did the magical "20 bytes" come from?
The hash of the public key which becomes the bitcoin address is 160 bits (20 bytes) plus a checksum and version number. You can read about that here: https://en.bitcoin.it/wiki/Technical_background_of_Bitcoin_addresses

Basically, I'm replacing that 20 bytes with my own data.

6. Using block times gap to encode transaction is vulnerable. A coalition of miners might collude in order to postpone some of a group of transactions that were broadcast to the network at the same time. This might also happen naturally as network traffic grows - we do not know enough at this point to predict how fast transactions will get mined, and how that would depend on fees.
That is an interesting attack vector. Note that using sendmany avoids this possibility. Also, colluding miners might be able to corrupt a transaction which is broken up, but they couldn't change it.

7. I think that the Saving/Guardian model, while perhaps not adding anything qualitative to Bitcoin (it can be "implemented" by correctly securing and backing up your private keys and passwords), does add some nice ease of use to the protocol.

Thanks!

8. "Selling MasterCoins for Other MasterCoin-Derived Currencies" seems to lack a time limit parameter, by mistake I assume.
Offers to sell are good until cancelled under the current spec, although that could easily be changed, I suppose.

9. "Registering a Data Stream" can use some motivational example. When would someone want to "publish the price of Gold" in the blockchain? What does this mean? (which Gold price? His price?)

Data stream providers make money when people bet on their data streams. Presumably they would get the price of gold per ounce from public sources.

10. <s>"Only the first payment sent from that address in a given day (as determined by block-chain timestamps) will be considered ticker data" - why is the timespan of "a day" special here? What does it mean to "be considered as ticker data"?</s>

After reading ahead, I understand the motivation of the division to days is the aggression factor of trust funds. It should be noted at this point of the paper ("Tickers and the reason for their granularity will be explained later on").

I don't want a ticker flooding the block chain, so I chose a day, since a lot of medium-term traders use that timescale by default. If a ticker published 10 updates in a day, the protocol would only look at the first one (the rest would be ignored). I agree that the day-limit could use better explanation in that spot.

11. Bet fees ("The other 0.5% goes to the creator of the data stream") - These should be configurable by the stream owner. I should be able to create streams with arbitrary fees.

I like that. I was trying to keep things simple, but this would be a fairly easy change to make.

12. Aggression factors - when during the day do the trust funds take action? One idea is at the end of each day, or (giving the data sources ample time to publish data whenever they want during the day).

I meant to mention in the paper that the protocol actions are calculated when the ticker sends the data, since the data is known to be accurate at that time.

I suggest giving an option for alternate aggression tactic - instead of increasing the buyout each day, simply buy X% of the relevant currency each day, without increasing X. It is not immediately clear which aggression tactic is "better", so it would be prudent to support both and let creators of coins decide which tactic they prefer. More variations on the aggression tactic is possible (you can allocate a protocol field to the tactic, and not necessarily decide on all the precise tactics now, but allow room for improvement in a future MIP (MasterCoin Improvement Proposal).

I definitely would like to experiment with other ways of doing this. I modeled my method after the integral gain of PID loops.
903  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: OFFICIAL LAUNCH: New Protocol Layer Starting From “The Exodus Address” on: July 31, 2013, 08:15:02 PM
I would also be interested to know who in the Bitcoin has reviewed the paper, and what was their general sentiment about it.

all i've seen about this project is this post, i am interested, i'm not sure i like the idea that my MasterCoin are sold at a fixed price by 1 central authority, and the fact that the MasterCoins are piggybacked on the blockchain, why not create a new Alt Coin?

See the intro to the spec for why I didn't make an alt coin.

Ripper, that is a lot of questions! I'm working on a reply right now . . .
904  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: [Necro Thread] It's here: The Second Bitcoin Whitepaper on: July 31, 2013, 07:05:52 PM
Sadly, I can't go to Amsterdam. I barely convinced my wife I should spend the money to get to the San Jose conference Smiley

Here's the official launch thread: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=265488.0

I'm locking this thread now, since that thread is live.
905  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: OFFICIAL LAUNCH: New Protocol Layer Starting From “The Exodus Address” on: July 31, 2013, 06:54:06 PM
Project Milestones, in rough order of implementation:


Again, please remember that these features will probably come a lot slower than you want them! Here's why:

Interesting conversation with my wife this morning:

She's not willing to trade my vacation/weekend/evening time for ANY amount of money. The poor woman hasn't learned to be materialistic, and is satisfied with what we have. She just wants my time and attention for herself and the kids.

However, she IS willing to trade very small amounts of that time as an investment in my project and in our future. For instance, she might take the kids to her parents' house for a weekend at some point to give me time to work on this.

Consequently, our burn rate using up project funds is going to be very slow, which is good, and progress will be painfully slow, which is bad.

Once I have the basic code in place, I should be able to set up some bounties, which should speed things up a bit, but it looks like I won't be paying myself directly to work on this unless I start doing this full-time.

Edit: Thanks to an enthusiastic community of developers, this project is going much quicker than I thought it would. Thanks everyone!
906  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / MasterCoin: New Protocol Layer Starting From “The Exodus Address” on: July 31, 2013, 06:53:54 PM
We have our own forum now which is now getting a lot of traffic (http://www.mastercointalk.org) so I'm locking this thread so our discussions are less spread out. Feel free to discuss Mastercoin and the Master Protocol there!

If you want to stay on bitcointalk, we have a new thread for discussing Mastercoin and the Master Protocol here: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=558012.0


I am VERY excited to announce that I now have a complete specification for building a protocol layer on top of bitcoin (like how HTTP runs on top of TCP/IP).

The coins of the new layer have
  • Additional security features to make your money much harder to steal
  • Built-in support for a distributed currency exchange
  • Built-in support for distributed betting (no need to trust a website to coordinate bets)
  • Built-in support for "smart property" which can be used to create and transfer property such as titles, deeds, or stock in a company
  • Capability to hold a stable user-defined value, such as an ounce of gold or U.S. Dollar, with no need to trust a person promising to back up that value

This is a significant improvement over anything we've had before, including colored coins. This protocol has been my life's work for over two years now, and you can finally get a piece of it today!

The name of the new protocol layer is “MasterCoin” (a name I invented and published long before the alt-coin of the same name), and it is 100% message-based, meaning that it encodes all its protocol data as hidden messages in the block chain which have special meanings, such as placing a bet, or transferring MasterCoins to another address.

Once you own MasterCoins, you have the building blocks for creating GoldCoin, USDCoin, EuroCoin, and any other real-world asset you can imagine! These child currencies will then be “meta stable” (holding their values as long as they remain sufficiently backed by MasterCoins held in escrow). Their target values are maintained by protocol actions which control the available supply.

Want more details?


About me:

MasterCoins are intended to be an investment opportunity on par with buying bitcoins when they first came out. However, as with bitcoins, there are a lot of risks too. Before you buy MasterCoins, please take a few minutes to read my summary of some of the ways this could go wrong and you could lose your money: https://sites.google.com/site/2ndbtcwpaper/MasterCoinRisks.pdf

Perhaps you have heard of the Genesis Block, from which the first bitcoins were created. MasterCoins have a similar starting point in the bitcoin block chain, called the “Exodus Address” (http://blockchain.info/address/1EXoDusjGwvnjZUyKkxZ4UHEf77z6A5S4P). MasterCoins were created by sending bitcoins to the Exodus Address during the month of August 2013. That fundraiser is now over, and anyone wishing to buy MasterCoins will have to purchase them from an early adopter.

Bitcoins raised in the fundraiser are being used to fund the development of software implementing the MasterCoin protocol. The fundraiser was structured like a kickstarter, but it is also an investment. If we're successful, the purchased MasterCoins could be worth a tremendous amount of money someday. Thanks to everyone who participated, helping us raise over half a million dollars worth of bitcoins. We're tracking every every expenditure of that money in a public ledger: https://docs.google.com/spreadsheet/ccc?key=0AtCyUJvk_IyNdGpVcnpBN2tOczFmbVRnck5TWjZuRFE&usp=sharing

Again, the fundraiser is over, and bitcoins sent to the Exodus Address do not create MasterCoins anymore. Until we get the bitcoin/MasterCoin distributed exchange set up, you can purchase MasterCoins (using a very manual process) here: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=287145.0

Do not attempt to purchase or use MasterCoins with a web wallet such as MtGox or Coinbase (YOU COULD LOSE YOUR MONEY). You must use a wallet where you can control a sending address by sending all your funds to that address first, then creating a "message" by sending funds from that address in a special format. Web wallets such as BlockChain.info will work fine, since they give you complete control over the addresses in your wallet.

Many MasterCoin functions are now available online (Note site disclaimers! There may still be bugs!):

We now have:

We are currently running a 300 BTC coding contest towards implementing MasterCoin's distributed exchange feature. ALL serious entries win a prize. Details here: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=292628.0

Feel free to ask any questions here, although please keep a civil tongue and be aware that I will delete posts on this thread which are off-topic or impolite.

Thanks!


907  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: [Necro Thread] It's here: The Second Bitcoin Whitepaper on: July 31, 2013, 02:50:13 PM
Hey guys,

Here's a sneak peak at the complete MasterCoin specification: https://sites.google.com/site/2ndbtcwpaper/MasterCoin%20Specification.pdf

I spent a lot of hours on it, and it is ready to go. I've been privately circulating it among bitcoin experts since Monday, with positive responses.

MasterCoins will be available for sale soon, and I hope it will make a big splash Smiley
908  Other / Off-topic / [RUMOR] Did Jed McCaleb (Gox Founder) leave Ripple? on: July 26, 2013, 07:46:03 PM
I got an interesting email from Quora recently:

Quote
Question added to the topic "Bitcoin"
     
The question "Ripple: Why did Jed McCaleb leave Ripple/OpenCoin?" was added to the topic "Bitcoin".

View question: http:/​/​www.​quora.​com/​login/​auto_login?.​.​.​

Thanks,
The Quora Team

The link has some kind of auto-login token, so I didn't include the whole thing, but when I clicked on it, I got redirected to this: http://www.quora.com/Why-cant-you-delete-a-Quora-question?__snids__=152503989&__nsrc__=4

Apparently, someone asked the question, then tried to delete it. Maybe Jed didn't really leave, or maybe he did but someone would like to keep it quiet . . .

At this point, it's just a rumor, but I'm curious if anybody can confirm or deny this rumor.
909  Bitcoin / Development & Technical Discussion / Re: Ecommerce bitcoin integration and verification on: July 16, 2013, 07:24:20 PM
I came up with a really easy way to accept bitcoins on a website without installing anything, but it relies on blockexplorer.com: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=4324.msg77187#msg77187

Also copied to here:
https://en.bitcoin.it/wiki/Lazy_API

It's a really easy (lazy) way to get started accepting bitcoins on a website without installing a bunch of stuff.
910  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: PLEASE HELP: Campaign to get a bitcoin "niche ETF" on: July 15, 2013, 05:45:58 PM
How do you feel being exactly 1 year ahead of the curve on this one?

If an ETF actually materializes, I definitely want to invest some of my ROTH IRA in it. Any future gains from that investment would be tax free!
911  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN] MasterCoin [MST] The master of all alt coins!! on: June 25, 2013, 03:20:03 PM
I saw "MasterCoin" and got all excited because I thought maybe somebody had finally implemented my whitepaper.

Oh well. Good luck with this.
912  Other / Politics & Society / Re: The kill/trade game on: June 14, 2013, 08:18:29 PM
Yeah, I'm calling it here. And from now on, the rounds are 24 hours. Starting when I post this round's results.

Soon, I hope?
913  Bitcoin / Mining / Re: can mining algorithyms be changed to benefit humanity on: June 12, 2013, 03:54:15 PM
Here's my crazy idea for changing proof of work to create a rapidly evolving artificial intelligence: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=215333.0

Even if it works, it might not be a good idea Smiley
914  Bitcoin / Project Development / Re: Will you be my co-founder? (Professional Salary, Equity Stake) + Investor Poll on: June 10, 2013, 03:07:22 PM
You guys are all awesome, even those who disagree with me.

I've got some cool people who say they are interested in being a co-founder (but haven't made any decisions yet, so feel free to get in touch). Unfortunately, the money side of things is not rosy enough yet. At this point it looks like I would be the primary source of funds for the venture, and there would not be enough funds to convince my wife that our little family would be financially secure for the two or three years it would take to get something like this established.

My plan is to revise the paper so that it is a complete technical spec. This may take a long time, as I am determined that my three small children and my day job will not be in any way neglected. For reference, the last draft took me six months under similar constraints.

I really hope somebody else will beat me to the punch. I'd much rather be an investor than a founder. Smiley
915  Bitcoin / Development & Technical Discussion / Re: cvTokens - Stable currency without trust on: June 06, 2013, 10:58:34 PM
Are you aware of this pull on github (#2577: Treat dust outputs as non-standard, un-hardcode TX_FEE constants)?

I called your proposal a "colored coin" proposal because it is built upon moving satoshis around. At current fees in the default client, moving those satoshis around costs 5430 satoshis. That tiny price will quickly add up if you try building stuff on top of the standard protocol.

Edit: to answer my own question:
Quote from: dacoinminster
Please don't treat micro-transactions as non-standard. A small amount of bitcoins can represent large amount of value in higher protocol layers. Colored coins is just one example.

Could we perhaps just raise the suggested fee on transactions which contain "dust"?

Yup! But it's not a deal-breaker. Upon further consideration, I realized it's just another form of "you have to pay to put data in the block chain" which is fine. It doesn't prevent message-based protocols from working.

But back to this thread: I'm really looking forward to reading the whitepaper!
916  Bitcoin / Project Development / Re: Will you be my co-founder? (Professional Salary, Equity Stake) + Investor Poll on: June 06, 2013, 09:59:14 PM
dacoinminster, the project you are seeking to start is already underway. I'm not sure if you remember, but we met at the conference after your panel. As I said then, we the Freicoin developers have been working on a proposal with similar goals for some time. It now has a name: “Freimarkets: assets, credit, and exchange”.

Explained in bitcoin terms, it is basically colored coins on steroids, plus decentralized, distributed p2p markets. Together with the “smart contracts” possible though the bitcoin scripting language, these provide all the primitives necessary for the issuance and management of just about any kind of financial instrument. We are currently working on a white paper describing in detail the modifications to bitcoin protocol, but here is the high-level executive summary:

Therein we propose a new transaction format, nVersion=3 transactions (Freicoin's interest/demurrage modifications having defined nVersion=2), which enable one level of independently verified sub-transactions, as well as relaxation of the rules regarding coin generation via coinbase transactions for the purpose of supporting user-defined assets on the block-chain. Combined with suitable extensions to the peer-to-peer, JSON-RPC, and user interfaces, these two protocol changes complete bitcoin’s repertoire of low-level constructs, allowing the emulation of a wide variety of financial instruments.

Together this enables the following sorts of applications:

* Issuing new assets by means of asset definition transactions (coinbase transactions other than the usual first transaction of a block), then transferring ownership of these “colored coins” through normal Freicoin transactions. Such assets are allowed to specify their own interest/demurrage rate, reference an external legal contract (typically governing their redemption) and may be destroyed when no longer needed by a special class of non-spendable, prunable output script.

* Atomic exchange of assets of differing types through inclusion of inputs and outputs for both in a single transaction.

* Signing orders (partial-transactions) that are binding but not completed until they get into the chain as part of a balanced transaction, and have attached expiration dates or can be explicitly cancelled by double-spending the signed inputs.

* Executing an arbitrary number of these orders atomically by creating a complete valid transaction where the orders are included as sub-transactions, thereby executing an atomic trade/exchange without requiring both parties to be online or in direct contact with each other.

* Composing orders from separate markets into an atomic trade with intermediate assets, enabling payment based on transitive trust relationships

In other words, any of the multitude of things Open-Transactions or Ripplepay were designed to do, could now be done on the block chain. Further, there is no reason why this could not be implemented on Bitcoin itself. However, it is such a drastic change in scope from what bitcoin has traditionally been that getting the required consensus may not be worthwhile or even doable. The smaller, more focused Freicoin community has already rallied behind this as the next major technical development, and it will be deployed to that network within as soon as development and testing is finished.

As you may know, I'm currently working on UTXO indices for bitcoin, and you would be excused for wondering how these two proposals could be related. The thing is, we anticipate user-issued assets and distributed exchange to grow demand for blockchain transactions considerably. Actually considerably is an understatement: I would not be surprised if it exceeds regular bitcoin traffic by a factor of 100x or more. Therefore we are working to get UTXO indices implemented first so that the core bitcoin layer can scale, then implement “Freimarkets” on top of Freicoin. Using existing scripts, users would be able to make atomic trades across chains (bitcoins <--> freicoins), and then use Freimarkets to issue their own transactions or participate in the p2p exchange.

I obviously feel Freicoin will succeed as a currency, on its own merits. However playing devil's advocate, even if you are not bullish on FRC it's still true that it's unique system of demurrage makes it an ideal fee currency that doesn't threaten bitcoin's utility as store-of-value. And the scale of hard-fork changes required for Freimarkets makes it a non-starter on bitcoin itself for pragmatic reasons.

Your idea about exchanging NewCoins for the bitcoin crowdfund investment is interesting, but unfortunately mismatched to the current situation on the ground. If you want to invest in this new idea, invest in freicoins - they will soon be the fee currency for the proposal. If you have bitcoins to contribute to the effort then contact me offline. My time is only paid for for the first couple of months, but this is expected to be a year-long endeveour. If additional funds were available, I'd be able to bring on extra programmers to make it happen sooner. (I already have one in mind, but if anyone technical is reading this and interested, contact me offline.)

I do remember you! And I'm following your efforts on Freicoin with great interest. I'm not sold on using Freicoin as the base, but something like this will succeed, and it may be you simply because you got there first. Smiley
917  Bitcoin / Project Development / Re: Will you be my co-founder? (Professional Salary, Equity Stake) + Investor Poll on: June 06, 2013, 03:05:31 PM
What? Only thoughtful, intelligent replies? What forum am I on?

Regarding merged-mining, that would make my ideas just another alt-coin, which I definitely want to avoid, and I would lose the ability to crowd-fund. Still, I expect that a message-based protocol built on top of bitcoin would be considered abuse of the block-chain by many people. Unfortunately (or fortunately?), there is really no way to prevent people from "abusing" the block-chain with experiments like this. As long as a transaction is valid from a bitcoin miner's perspective, it will get included, regardless of what other information it carries.

Croesus, if your method had a way to crowd-fund and invest in its success, I would be all over it. You're one of the few who really understands where we need to go.

It sounds a more detailed technical spec is the next big job (defining the actual message formats).

If you are a potential co-founder, or just want to make an intelligent comment like the ones above, please post!
918  Bitcoin / Project Development / Re: Will you be my co-founder? (Professional Salary, Equity Stake) + Investor Poll on: June 05, 2013, 07:20:08 PM
Tons of comments on reddit, but so far none here. Strange . . .

Usually there are at least a few trolls who come kick up some dirt on my threads. Did all the trolls get banned?
919  Bitcoin / Project Development / Re: Will you be my co-founder? (Professional Salary, Equity Stake) + Investor Po on: June 05, 2013, 05:46:43 PM
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920  Bitcoin / Project Development / Will you be my co-founder? (Professional Salary, Equity Stake) + Investor Poll on: June 05, 2013, 05:26:49 PM
For a long time, I've been advocating for a crowd-funded protocol layer built on top of bitcoin, using messages in the block chain to represent transfers of value. I wrote a paper last year (see my sig) about how such a layer could enable distributed exchange, distributed betting markets, better security features for your "savings" wallet, and self-stabilized user-created currencies built on top of it all for representing gold, dollars, crude oil, etc.

You can see me talk about how I want to invest in such a crowd-funded effort when I was on the Bitcoin Conference 2013 panel about "Bitcoin in the Future": http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_qdr_Z3hrqQ

I would love to invest in something like this (by purchasing the "coins" of the new protocol layer), but so far, nobody has tried it.

Obviously, I have thought about trying to launch such a thing myself, but there are two things holding me back:
1) I don't have anyone to do it with me. I'd really like to have a co-founder (or two) to work alongside me
2) I don't know how much money the crowd-funding effort would raise, and I don't want to launch such an effort unless I'm pretty sure it will succeed.

This thread takes a shot at solving both problems. For the poll, assume the following:

  • Bitcoins raised for crowd-funding automatically convert to ownership in the new protocol
  • Like Kickstarter, if enough funds aren't raised, everybody gets their bitcoins back
  • The real identities of myself and any co-founders are known - no anonymous people who might disappear.
  • The roadmap of features are laid out in advance, but not set in stone. For instance, if technical hurdles come up, the plan might change, but the goal will always be to maximize the value of the new protocol layer you funded.
  • If the new protocol layer is successful, early investors become fabulously wealthy, and the value of bitcoins rises too.

For finding a co-founder, the biggest requirement is to find someone who understands what I am trying to do, and agrees with the general approach (although not necessarily agreeing on every last detail). I need someone with strong technical skills and decent inter-personal skills. If they currently hold bitcoins, they should be an investor in the crowd-funding, but they would receive a professional salary and significant equity in the organization created by the crowd-funding, in addition to the ownership stake they bought in the new protocol layer.

I myself would invest the vast majority of my bitcoins in the crowd-funding (and would thereby own a lot of the "coins" of the new protocol layer), but unfortunately that is not enough to get the kind of money we would need to pay a couple professional salaries for at least a couple years until the enterprise becomes self-sustaining. (The organization gets a small percentage of the new protocol which slowly vests over time - the organization becomes self-sustaining by selling their stake in the protocol as needed once it vests).

Please vote in my poll, and post in this thread about why YOU should be my co-founder. You can learn more about me and my bitcoin pedigree here: http://www.linkedin.com/in/jrwillett (Also, please connect with me on LinkedIn!)

Sister post on reddit is here: http://www.reddit.com/r/Bitcoin/comments/1fqgn0/will_you_be_my_cofounder_professional_salary/
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