Yeah! It's true that with increase in price, more people attract towards Bitcoin. I remember lots of locals asking me how to buy Ripple (XRP) in late 2017. At one point of time, XRP was trading at the premium of 25% in India! But that was just because of Bandwagon Effect. People were buying because they heard others buying it. Such people contribute nothing to system, they are just here to make money.

I believe when Bitcoin will cross ₹10 lakhs again, we will see new Indians popping up in the forum but their posts would just be limited to either: How can I earn Bitcoin on this forum or Is it good time to invest in XYZ coin. But we don't want such members in this section. Rather we want people who are really interested in learning about Bitcoin and blockchain, who can contribute to Bitcoin core, who can submit BIPs. I know several such Indians but they aren't interested to signup here as there is not much intellectual discussion on this forum, especially in Indian section.

I was watching the game between SPAL and Juventus on Sunday and kinda made my mind that Juventus will lose at Lyon. When 20th ranked Serie A side can give you hard time, you hardly have a chance against Lyon. Even Barcelona played draw at Lyon last season and the 2018/19 Barcelona side was much better than this year's Juventus. I also think Juventus will lose their first position to Lazio in Serie A this week.

However, Juventus can surely win this fixture in second leg. Lyon is shit in away games.

By the way, who else thinks De Bruyne's arm band was the most irritating thing in yesterday's games.

Well, projects have to throw big bucks to hire big men for job. Quality comes with price. If not it's good you reject them.

Hell Yeah! I'm watching. How can one misses this madness from Pep!
KDB playing as centre forward, Jesus playing at Left Back, Man City dropping back, waiting for Real Madrid to attack and then passing the ball over the top. Pep has completely turned the clock. It's like me playing against 'Beginners' level in PES, shuffling the role of players. I won't be surprised if we see Ageuro as goalkeeper in second half.

Although, I lost all of my bets yesterday but I am happy after seeing Barcelona's performance. Most of you having opinion that Barcelona played bad and Napoli defended good. But that's not complete truth. Barcelona had the disastrous first half I agree but team played wonderful football in second half. Most of the Napoli players were tired after huge workrate in first half and Barcelona took advantage of that in second half. They were easily penetrating balls between lines and dominated the game which is less seen in Barca's away games this season. As a Barca fan, I will happily accept the result. We can easily beat Napoli at home.


Highest odds and that too for home game. Don't go for that, not at all. Real don't have any goal scorer, Benzama is in awful goal-drought. Hazard is injured. I don't see anything favorable for them.

Glad you came by. Thanks for your edits, I made necessary changes in introduction as well as point (1) i.e. the definition of Public Address. Please check and tell me if anything else needed correction. While writing such lengthy guide, it is normal to do such mistakes. As I said earlier, this guide have over 21K characters and I manually typed each line.

PS: I am never looking for merits. If I was really a merit hunter then you would most probably be seeing 2000+ merits on my profile, it won't be difficult for me. However, I don't have such temptations.

Maybe what you are saying worked in a kingdom having few thousands population but not at all possible in modern economy. In my country more than 1.5 billion people live, do you think government can even pick individuals and provide them recognition? I don't think attention-seeking generation of today will do anything of that sort if not getting enough attention.

Also modern countries are not run for kings, these are run by leaders from political parties who are mostly hated by people. No matter with what intention they deliver something, people will always hate them for no reason. For example, in my country Prime Minister requested rich section to giveaway their LPG cylinder subsidy. The amount saved from such subsidy would then be used to provide free gas to 'below-poverty class'. Guess what? In the country of 1.5 billion population, only 700K people gaveaway subsidy. There is no harmony left among people.

However, Income Tax Department here in India is trying to create some incentives for tax payer. Based on the amount of tax payed, tax payers are getting some recognition. Even I received Silver Certificate for my tax contribution. However, I cannot flaunt that on my social media else it will guarantee burglary at my place. In short, honor comes with risk in modern times.

Yes, house can detect the client seed. This is how the house can detect your client seed:

Bet 1: I used 'myFavSeed' as my client seed. After the bet, I clicked 'new seed' and site changed server seed plus generated new client seed for me, say 'dgbeigeinwo35353'.

Bet 2: But since I love my client seed, I again changed client seed to 'myFavSeed' and played the bet. After second bet, I once again generated new seeds to verify my second bet.

Everything will go well up till here. Since server seed is generated prior to client seed, house have no way to cheat you. But here comes the catch. Suppose house is maintaining the record of every client seed that you verified like this:

User.verifiedClientSeeds = ['myFavSeed', 'myFavSeed'];

Now house can check if client seed used in first bet is same as the second, if true then house will use 'myFavSeed' as dummy client seed and generate a server seed for a specific result. This server seed's hash will be shown to you for third bet.

If you once again choose 'myFavSeed' as your client seed, the result will be same as what house decided before game. However, in games like dice this may not be very advantageous for house. House may fix that the result will be 92.68 but still have no control over Roll over/Roll under which user may choose arbitrarily. But this thing can be disastrous in case of auto bet or if house even maintains the record of your betting habits. For example, if I picked roll over 50.5 four times whereas picked roll under 49.5 eleven times. Then house can draw a trend that I like to pick roll under 49.5 so it will present me server seed such that result generated with that server seed and myFavSeed as client seed will be above 49.5.

I don't remember reading any other list of renowned managers so this is a good thread. However, I don't think this thread belongs to 'Beginners & Help' section. In my opinion, this section is for forum newbies who want to learn about bitcoin and this forum.
But on the other hand, this thread maybe more useful for new ICOs or gambling projects which are looking for manager for their campaign. So this thread is more suitable in Marketplace section, more appropriately in 'Service Discussion'.

PS: I won't consider LoyceV as very experienced when it comes to managing campaigns.

It was a cloudflare error. Mumbai server of Cloudflare not working so I ain't able to access the website in India. However, I used proxy and it worked.

Hey admin/manager/anyone,
What's up with website? I cannot access 'Sports' section, it's taking eternity to load. I messaged Customer Expectations Team but no response. I hope Sports section will become accessible within 3 hours else I will miss important bets for tonight games.

This is my position for tonight games:


Chelsea vs Bayern Munich - Both teams are good. Bayern is comparatively stronger team however that doesn't change the fact that Bayern playing away game and this factor gonna play crucial aspect today. Although Bayern have exceptional away record during group stage this season (scored 16 goals and won all 3 matches) but several things have changed since then. I don't think Bayern will score more than 2 goals today. On the other hand, I even don't expect Chelsea to score more than 2. So on whole game is expected to be very tight and that's why I am going for Draw.

Napoli vs Barcelona - Ah! Barca's away form has been ridiculous since last 1 year. It would be biggest mistake to put real money on Barcelona on away games. But something has changed last week. I don't know if anyone of you have watched but Messi gave interview on Thursday. The interview was hands-down one of the greatest interview from football player. Messi replied on every present concern with Barcelona. I think that interview lighten him very much. We can see how stress-free he was playing on Sunday, scored 4 (wow!). So only for Messi, I am taking one more risk on Barcelona.

Both bets are for full-time.

Heisenberg never was the moderator of Indian section. Only Benson had been the moderator of this section. After his removal, no one served as the local moderator and most of the spam in the section goes unnoticed. Only those thread which are reported are looked by global moderators.

Not any particular site. I was talking to an experienced dev the other day when he told me about the possibility of manipulating seeds based upon whether user changes his client seeds or not. Since the code is written in back-end it is not easy to find out which site is cheating or not. Then I tried writing the code to do so and yes, it is possible to manipulate the seeds. However, my code have some front-end trails which when looked carefully show that something fishy going on. But I am pretty sure that someone more experienced coder than me can mutate front-end code in the way that it might become almost impossible to find out that your front-end seeds are being manipulated from back-end.



Well, you don't have to do everything on your own. Almost every gambling site provides the way to verify your bets. The site will either provide you a form to fill your seeds and display the result or provide you the bare code which you can simply paste in Notepad, edit your seeds in code and save the file with .html extension. Then you just have to open that file in browser to display your result.

Also, I am planing to make a site where I will review the provably fair script of most of the gambling sites and provide the form for users to verify their bets independently for each site. But since it is huge work to do, I cannot promise the date. Maybe will create in 2 months or so.

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And lastly, I would like to thank everyone who liked and appreciated the thread. I think I could make few changes in OP to make this thread more productive. Will do that in free time.

Your experience surely sounding fishy. I would recommend you to check the fairness of site.

I have discovered another way a gambling site can scam players. Under this, a site has a special code which sets the checkbox false if player has less than say, 100 bets. But as soon as player plays more than that, code checks if player has ever changed his client seed or not. If no, this means player never checked the fairness of game and doesn't care about provably fair at all. In that case, code changes the status of checkbox to true. Then provably fair code checks if checkbox is true/false. If true then fake seed hash is shown to player and game is rigged.

They most probably trying to scam you account. WazirX have very specific plan for unlocking whole tokens. If I write briefly, this is how they planned to unlock WRX tokens distributed as airdrop:

10%: Unlocked immediately and can be traded on WazirX and Binance.
30%: Will be unlocked in February but are not tradeable. You can only use these 30% tokens to pay for exchange fees on WazirX platform.
30%: Will be unlocked in 24 equal halves starting from 31st May 2020. So you will receive 1.25% of the tokens every month for 2 years until 30th April 2022.
30%: This portion will be unlocked based on the trading volume on WazirX. So for example, you traded $1000 worth of cryptocurrencies on WazirX, this will unlock 100 WRX tokens which will be paid to you in 8 parts each at the end of quarter starting from 31st May, 2020.

For complete details, check this medium article: https://medium.com/wazirx/wrx-release-schedule-sign-up-bonus-update-86cb48a3a2ec

UPDATE (31/08/20): BTCGOSU has launched a biggest third-party provably fair verifier tool where you can verify bets for over 25 casinos in single page. Check out now: https://www.btcgosu.com/tools/provably-fair-verifier/

Provably Fair Script is one of the basic element of online gambling, especially for crypto based casinos. However, most of the gamblers don't give dime about it while some don't even know what is it and how it operates. I started crypto gambling in 2016 and didn't know about Provably Fair for most of my initial gambling days. But believe me in the absence of Provably Fair, you are not gambling, you are just being cheated by the house.

The basic idea of this thread is to share my views on PF script and how to make most out of it. I have spent few weeks developing unique logic for Provably Fair script for upcoming gambling site clubbing it with blockchain technology. While developing it, I visited around 20 casinos and tried their PF script to understand current practice. However, this thread is not about my script but about current practice.

If you are in this section, you probably have heard about Provably Fair script and may be verifying your bets too. But have you ever tried to understand the logic behind it? If not, let me give a brief explanation on how Provably Fair system works.

Different gambling sites use different Provably Fair implementation however the basic idea is to generate a random number based on three factors: client seed, server seed and nonce.

Client seed: It can be anything. It is up to player to choose anything as his client seed. For example, I can use 'webtricksClientSeed' as my client seed or 'thisIsMyRandomClientSeed'. However, while choosing client seed make sure three things:
(i) Always choose new seed for new bet (never try same client seed with new server seed).
(ii) Don't choose easily identifiable seeds like I mentioned above (close your eyes and type random numbers and alphabets. I do like this and it works ).
(iii) Site will generate random client seed for you but don't use it. Always choose your own.

Server Seed: It is generated by server. Server will choose random string of random length and convert it to sha256 hash which will provided to you. For example, if server picks 'thisIsRandomSeed' as server seed then this will be provide you: 45006cccc7e44ee0b6c0752469de2fe1ad6bff589fb789bfb60773224cf2cc0a.
Since sha256 is one-way hashing you will know sha256 hash before making bet but you cannot decipher server seed before betting. The site will show you unhashed server seed once you change your seeds. Then you can verify that the sha256 hash of server seed is similar to what was presented to you before bet.

Nonce: In context of Provably Fair, nonce is mostly regarded as the number of times you have made bet with the combination of same client and server seed. For example, if I make two bets with 'ClientSeed' as client seed and 'ServerSeed' as server seed then the result of bet will be generated on the basis of 'ClientSeed+1+ServerSeed' for first bet and 'ClientSeed+2+ServerSeed' for second bet.

Here is graphical illustration of what I just said:


Now coming to how results are driven from these seeds. As I said earlier, different sites use different logic to determine result. However, there is one basic logic which is being used by around 80% of the casinos, notably Fortunejack, PrimeDice, Bitsler etc. This is how it works:

Step 1: First of all let's assume three variables. Server seed = 'ServerSeed', client seed = 'ClientSeed' and nonce = 1. Now we have to use hmac authentication by hashing our variables using sha512 hashing algorithm. Server seed will serve as a secret key to generate hash while client seed and nonce will be used as an input like this: 'ClientSeed-1' or 'client seed - nonce'.

Step 2: So the hash of the above seeds will look like this: 671e7387e26fa724d089521805430866b29f6849ad2928a26e5ed01101f72f57883b972f20f9464 d99ab13c2adcf37bd955863c69697739628d70969adba1ab3

Step 3: Not going into technical term and by simply sticking to layman's language, we have to take first 5 characters of hash i.e. 671e7. Now we have to convert these 5 characters from hex value to integer value which will be: 422375.

Step 4: If the integer value is between 0 and 1million (1,000,000) then it's ok. But if it is more than or equal to 1M then we will use next 5 characters from hash. But since in our case, 422375 is less than 1000000 so this number will determine the result.

Step 5: In this step, we will simply divide the value with 10000 and take the remainder for next step. In our case, 422375 when divided by 10000 will leave 2375 in remainder which will be consider for final step.

Step 6: In this step, we will simply divide the remainder by 100 and this will determine the final result. In our case it will be 23.75. This should match the dice roll. If not then site is most probably cheating you.

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Now coming to the most important part. Probably this part is the main reason why I created this thread. Although, the above system is foolproof but site owners can easily fool you if you ain't paying enough attention. So here are the few points you should consider while gambling:

(i) Always copy server seed hash shown to you before betting.
(ii) After bet is complete, create new client seed. Make sure server seed is also changed along with it.
(iii) Once new client seed is created, site will show you unhashed server seed of previous bet. Copy it and convert it to sha256 hash using some third party online tool.
(iv) Match the server seed hash that you copied in step (i) to the one generated in step (iii) and make sure both are exactly same.

Two days ago, I tested my code with few people. I shown them different server seed hash before bet and after bet I kept first 6 characters same, last 3 characters same and few similar characters in the middle. It took just 30-40 seconds for my machine to generate such hash. With more powerful machine, I can speed up the process and create more matching characters. To my surprise, none of the tester noticed that they were shown different server hash before and after bet. It is human tendency that they only consider few letters (probably starting and ending ones) when presented random word like hexadecimal hash. So with bare eyes, no one was able to notice the difference. So be safe and make sure you verify every bet you make. Being a coding enthusiast, I can assure you that it is very much possible that house can easily manipulate results without player even noticing.

Another thing you can do is to use cross-casinos verification. For example, Fortunejack and Bitsler use same script, you can verify your fortunejack bets using bitsler's verification script.

Leipzig playing amazing football. No wonder why Bundesliga is so close this season.

Are we gonna see 3 German sides in quarterfinals? Well it seems like unless Tottenham can bring back their luck element in final minutes like previous season.

Nice. Congratulations.
I choose 67

At last Champions League is back! I am already having mental orgasm.

1. Parlay on Atletico and PSG (total odd: 8.41) Checked

2. Aligned and charged both of mine laptops side-by-side to enjoy both games Checked

3. Chilled two cans of Redbull to survive till 3:25 AM. Checked

Bringgg it on UEFA, I am ready