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921  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: presuring someone into Bitcoin investment on: August 27, 2023, 03:43:21 PM
The lesson here is there’s no need to convince someone especially if it comes with a highly potential asset, because whether he will reject the idea or not at the moment, in the end when all the people are into bitcoin, I don’t think he won’t change his mind and suddenly long to buy for bitcoin so he can invest and hold it like a valuable investment. Same goes with OP’s mother, educate her but never force her to invest suddenly. Bitcoin is a risky investment so one needs to study it thoroughly before she’ll come up with her final decision to buy and hold bitcoin.
922  Economy / Trading Discussion / Re: Bitcoin holder are not maximizing the bitcoin potential on: August 27, 2023, 10:57:58 AM
Yep, the world of Bitcoin offers more than just holding your coins! Its price swings can be a trader's paradise if played right and one takes proper advantage of the volatility. While the long-term holding strategy has its pros, experienced users who understands trading can make some good profit by day trading. That being said, it's not for those that can't afford to risk, and one should definitely educate themselves thoroughly before diving in. I've seen a bunch of people check out resources like the one you linked and it does help to get the basics down. But always remember, with reading or watching tutorials won't make you an expert. You need to trade, make errors and learn from it to eventually become good in trading. The risks involved is much higher than just holding. Hence, most people prefer holding since you still make profit in the long run.
In the end, it’s an individual’s choice whether he’ll stay hodling or trading, but surely he’ll chose the one which is less risky and less stressful without compromising the future amount of profits. Moreover, trading demands a lot of time and efforts, and only real traders can sustain it, and the rest are long term hodlers who share the same goal with traders. So we cannot jump to a conclusion that long term hodlers do not maximize the potentials of bitcoin, because the fact that they chose long term hodling than short term trading, for sure there is quite bigger and promising profits waiting ahead.
923  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Boxing: Regis Prograis vs Devin Haney on: August 26, 2023, 04:01:02 PM
All right, so here is the reason why Devin and his dad wanted to move the fight date earlier. For me, it makes sense to move the date otherwise they will go head-to-head against Tyson Fury's fight against Francis Ngannou. I mean this fight is the better match-up but most likely only for the boxing hard cores. But it is still a bitch move not consulting Regis Prograis especially since he is the defending champion. They can move the fight to a later date like a week or 2 after the Fury-Ngannou and not before that.




The Tyson Fury fight is in the early afternoon so there really shouldn't be a scheduling conflict. We often see that when there is a big fight in Europe or the Middle East, promoters will still schedule events for later in the day in the United States. It would only be an issue if they also want to make Haney vs. Prograis a pay-per-view fight because people wouldn't want to spend on two different fights in the same day. Neither of these guys is popular enough for this fight to be worthy of being pay-per-view. Haney is just being a diva for whatever reason.

I actually understand why they wanted to move the date. But I think that is not actually necessary to be honest. I believe the Haney fight is going to be a good one anyway. And there is no reason for him to make such a fuss about changing the date.

Obviously, people are going to want to see the other fight. Tyson Fury versus Francis, those two are definitely much more popular. And also will be able to bring in a huge amount of money. Because we got the interest of two worlds, two sets of fans, in this fight.

I assume this fight is on pay-per-view as well. Devin Haney is paid millions of dollars per fight since his fight over Kambosos so I guess a million or two is not enough for him anymore. I remember when Eddie Hearn upon knowing Haney's promotional contract with Top Rank expired mentioned that he is becoming an expensive fighter and that he might not afford his services anymore. So it simply means that his fights are going to be on PPV.

Devin Haney is popular only to hardcore fans and while Prograis is a KO artist, he doesn't have a huge fanbase as well. Fury-Ngannou is a mismatch and is nowhere near the quality of Prograis-Haney but Fury has a huge fanbase and Ngannou might have the backing of the huge MMA community.

Yes, just to be fair with Haney, if he fights Prograis, he should be considered the A-side as he has been fighting good to great boxers and beating them. However, Prograis, may not ring a bell for casual fans, but if you check his record, he is a very good boxer as well and a KO artist and he almost beat the last unified 140 lbs champion in Josh Taylor.

And that's what make this fight exciting for us, a KO artist in Prograis and then Haney using his defense to his advantage and maybe beat Prograis with that kind of strategy and not allowing himself to get hit by the power of Regis here. But this should be at least fair for Regis to also get a good money in the purse split as he had the belt here.

Agree. So the A-side here is the challenger. I haven't fully watched the Taylor-Prograis unification fight but the stats are actually favoring Prograis slightly. Prograis keeps talking about wanting a rematch against Taylor or a fight with Ramirez yet he made the opposite move by refusing Top Rank's bigger offer and went to Matchroom.

I wonder if this fight is still a go. I hope this fight goes on. I want to see how Haney fares against a proven champion at 140 while I am also eager to see if Prograis still has it or if he is already declining as seen in his last fight.

I don't know why as well on why the rematch between Prograis and Taylor didn't materialized, or was there even a discussion about it? Anyway, if I'm correct, the later isn't having anymore of it as he might've though that his chapter against Prograis is already finish and there's nothing to prove anymore.

Now that Prograis is going to be challenged by an undisputed champion from 135, I bet he's thrilled by it specially after the fact that there are lots of fans thinking that he might lose this one because even if Haney is not a heavy hitter unlike like him, the unified champion got another asset that is quite difficult to approach.

It's because Taylor chasing that other belts as well, so he didn't get to rematch Regis, but fight Ramirez to get the last of the belts, thus declaring him the unified champion. Then take a break and then fought Catterall, supposedly easy fight for him, but it was the other way around as he almost lost that fight. So there were news of a rematch, then he got injured pulled it off (maybe a clear duck).
But then make the wrong move of fighting a fellow Top Rank fighter (Prograis as you have said goes to Matchroom, so the rematch is scratch), in Lopez and soundly beaten. So there are reports now that he wanted to move to 147 lbs in his next fight.

He might but there are still no clear indications that Taylor is indeed that inclined to climb the next weight class, which gave me some thinking that he might seek a redemption fight first or a rematch versus Lopez instead before exiting his present weight class. Who knows, but as of now, there are still no reports.

Going back to the discussion, is the date still the same or it was moved to a much earlier date? Because that was the issue and Regis lashed it out on the social media so that the people will know what Team Haney is trying to do.
924  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: FIFA World Cup 2026 :Canada/Mexico/United States: Discussion Thread on: August 26, 2023, 02:46:09 PM
Yeah, at the end of the day it's all about the money.

These leagues make a lot of money by simply having these young players, and in return they basically give them a scholarship.

Seems like a really great deal for the companies running those leagues. It's also a good opportunity for the young players that would have no chance to pay for the expensive university.

I guess that wouldn't work in countries were universities are free or reasonably priced.

So you are saying that the shitty college system in the United States is actually helping it to produce great athletes? I thought about it, and I would agree to it partially. I know that the tuition fee and other expenses in college system is extremely high for the American students, and that is one of the reasons why Bernie Sanders became popular suddenly when he talked about writing off student loans. And education is either free or affordable in most of the European countries (and also in non-European countries such as China). But I do believe that this scholarship system for bright athletes exist in other countries as well.



I don't think so.  These kids basically have to go through college to get to theor end goal of playing in the professional leagues.  Most major sports draft out of college because that's the route that has always been.  Basketball is kind of moving away from that, but it's not a 2 way street.  These colleges have just been making tons of money off these kids and the kids do it because it's "part of the process".

Well, if only they have that much option to reject the process and then go with what they wanted direclty, it could've been an easy journey for them. But unfortunately, that's not really the issue because if we look closely at the bigger picture, going colleges is also important to them even if these young ones aren't planning for it because their path towards greatness like to be a star in their chosen sports is not really guaranteed and if that happens, they can always go back with what they have finished and make it as a main source of income.
925  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: 2023 NBA Season on: August 26, 2023, 01:55:18 PM
What do you think about the Warriors signing Blake Griffin to a 1 year deal at the minimum to make a CP3 lob city reunion? I think it’s a great idea from a business perspective and I also think it’s a great use for your final roster spot. CP3 and Griffin definitely have a chemistry that makes them more dangerous when paired together.

https://clutchpoints.com/nba-rumors-warriors-eyeing-blake-griffin-chris-paul-reunion-to-complete-roster

It's a positive move for the Warriors to acquire Griffin, given his popularity even though he's no longer in his prime. However, having high expectations for him seems somewhat unrealistic in my opinion, considering his performance over the last two seasons.

During his time with Brooklyn, he averaged 6.4 points per game, and in Boston, that dropped to 4.1 points per game. It appears he's approaching the twilight of his career. Nevertheless, he now has a chance to compete for a championship with the Warriors, and the encouraging aspect is that he'll do so alongside his friend CP3.

Indeed, Blake Griffin was a beast during his prime but he is nowhere near in that shape. His contributions on the court in the last few years were nothing significant. It's more about building team chemistry and mentorship in the team.

Anyway, I am not really hyped about the Warriors this coming season. Although I admit that they will always remain a dark horse knowing how deep their championship experiences are. We'll see if CP3 can turn back a few years of his game since this might be his last chance of getting a ring.

Certainly, CP3 cannot waste this opportunity to win a championship, as his performance here could significantly impact his future prospects. If he doesn't perform well, he might face challenges in finding a team willing to sign him, especially considering he will become an unrestricted free agent in 2025. The team (Warriors) traded a young and promising player for an older and experienced player; it remains to be seen whether this trade will yield positive results.

I bet some of us here are saying that the trade wasn't worth it knowing that the Warriors are already good but their hands are tied on that point because if it weren't, Jordan Poole could've been wearing the same jersey and that specific trade did not happen. I mean, it was a just a bad season for the whole team and it's like they needed to have somebody to blame. J. Poole was already showing some signs of improvement that is undeniable but I don't know what happened to him specially in the post season where he could have been an asset to the team, instead, he became a liability.
926  Economy / Trading Discussion / Re: Have you ever used copy trading apps on: August 25, 2023, 09:59:28 PM
With all the negative reviews that I’ve been reading online, I think those are proofs that it will never make me profitable in trading. Copy trading will never make you profitable in time, but will make these channels richer without doubting. This is the reality but sadly, a lot of traders still fall for them believing that they will take shortcuts in making their trades successful and profitable. Perhaps because every trader is greedy, but others are just wise enough to control their greed.
927  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: [Boxing]: Jerwin Ancajas vs Takuma Inoue - Nov 15 on: August 25, 2023, 03:52:33 PM
He has a good chance of beating Takuma as Ancajas is still good his only 2 recent losses coms from Fernando Martinez and Martinez is way better than Takuma when it comes to power and aggressiveness, Ancajas for the record held the flyweight title for 6 years and I believe he still has what it takes to become a champion again.

And that is why this fight is very interesting, Ancajas is a former champion and has a good power. His lost to Martinez could be attributed to the fact that he can't make the 115 lbs (not excuse though, but fighters went to this hell as they have problems making weight, thus losing power and even their legs in a fight). So he is going up, so there will be no issues with his weight and so he could give Takuma a good fight and possible to win.

But seems the poll is divided amongst us.

One of the facts that gave some users here some doubts because Jerwin is not that kind of boxer who will ring a bell on their ears while Takuma, he is carrying the name of an Inoue, for which the users thought that he is like Naoya since he is carrying the same name and they are also brothers.

But if we compare it closely, Takuma is way too far from his brother's skills and comparing against Ancajas closely, unfortunately, Takuma is on the disadvantage here. Even though he is the champion, I doubt that he can still defend his belt successfully against a man who once give other boxers a hard time.
928  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: FIBA Basketball World Cup 2023 - Betting and Discussions on: August 25, 2023, 02:42:43 PM
It’s really impressive how Gilas manage to keep the game even with KAT32 aggression. Clarkson already had his rhythm after his cold game on the starting of the game. I’m not sure what’s wrong with Clarkson ball handling but he seems like easy to lose the ball even with an open space before he attack.

Kiefer already redeemed himself against all his basher after performing a very good quarter to cut DR lead to tie. He is really good point guard on this game because he can optimize and dictate his teammates well to have a good shooting position. Hoping that Gilas will win tonight against this strong DR.

I believe the majority didn't anticipate that the Philippines would make the game this interesting. Even though KAT scored well in the second half, Clarkson's consistency remains, and he continues to contribute effectively for his country. He shows no sign of tiring and is determined to secure this win. I'm thoroughly enjoying watching the game; I'm taking a brief break to share my thoughts here.

Let's go, Philippines! Those x5 odds are looking promising.



Unfortunately Philippines Fall short in the 4th quarter as JC was fouled out.

Final score 87-81, Philippines still covered the spread.  Smiley

Yes, congrats to those who got the Philippines at early line +12.5 and 11.5 as they covered the spread. And they almost pulled a upset if not for Jordan Clarkson fouling out with just 3++ minutes to play.

Philippines after that doesn't have any offensive weapon, and it seems that they are at lost without Clarkson.

So kudos to Dominican Republic and KAT as he dominated the Pinoys when he go the ball at low post and seems just barreling inside for a score.

They appeared lost because their playing strategy revolved solely around Clarkson. Unfortunately, their upcoming opponents already seem to have figured out how to counter this approach. For instance, if the Philippines doesn't adapt, opponents could exploit this by getting Clarkson into foul trouble, causing the team to face difficulties on offense.

Plenty of mistakes were found which results into a plenty of turnovers as well, I could say that the Domincana also have their own mistakes, but the Gilas seems to have some difficulties to convert it to points which was a downside to the team. And yes, it's evident that the team's system is only revolving around Clarkson and they don't have that much confidence to make their own move to give a points to the team.
929  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Lessons Taken from Previous Bull Markets: How Will Your Approach Change? on: August 25, 2023, 08:46:10 AM
I will still stick to my old strategy, that is to buy low and sell high. Now that bull run is fast approaching, I think this is the best time to prepare my portfolio and do maximum buying while prices are still affordable. Because once the market becomes bullish already, then I don’t have the chances to buy anymore.

This time also, I will assure myself to sell some of my coins to gain some profits as well. Bull run is not about hodling your coins longer, but it’s the best time to sell so most likely I will take part in selling. And continue to hold some of my coins for future profits. That way, I won’t miss the chance to be in profits just like everyone else.
930  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Boxing: Regis Prograis vs Devin Haney on: August 24, 2023, 03:55:00 PM
All right, so here is the reason why Devin and his dad wanted to move the fight date earlier. For me, it makes sense to move the date otherwise they will go head-to-head against Tyson Fury's fight against Francis Ngannou. I mean this fight is the better match-up but most likely only for the boxing hard cores. But it is still a bitch move not consulting Regis Prograis especially since he is the defending champion. They can move the fight to a later date like a week or 2 after the Fury-Ngannou and not before that.




The Tyson Fury fight is in the early afternoon so there really shouldn't be a scheduling conflict. We often see that when there is a big fight in Europe or the Middle East, promoters will still schedule events for later in the day in the United States. It would only be an issue if they also want to make Haney vs. Prograis a pay-per-view fight because people wouldn't want to spend on two different fights in the same day. Neither of these guys is popular enough for this fight to be worthy of being pay-per-view. Haney is just being a diva for whatever reason.

I actually understand why they wanted to move the date. But I think that is not actually necessary to be honest. I believe the Haney fight is going to be a good one anyway. And there is no reason for him to make such a fuss about changing the date.

Obviously, people are going to want to see the other fight. Tyson Fury versus Francis, those two are definitely much more popular. And also will be able to bring in a huge amount of money. Because we got the interest of two worlds, two sets of fans, in this fight.

I assume this fight is on pay-per-view as well. Devin Haney is paid millions of dollars per fight since his fight over Kambosos so I guess a million or two is not enough for him anymore. I remember when Eddie Hearn upon knowing Haney's promotional contract with Top Rank expired mentioned that he is becoming an expensive fighter and that he might not afford his services anymore. So it simply means that his fights are going to be on PPV.

Devin Haney is popular only to hardcore fans and while Prograis is a KO artist, he doesn't have a huge fanbase as well. Fury-Ngannou is a mismatch and is nowhere near the quality of Prograis-Haney but Fury has a huge fanbase and Ngannou might have the backing of the huge MMA community.

Yes, just to be fair with Haney, if he fights Prograis, he should be considered the A-side as he has been fighting good to great boxers and beating them. However, Prograis, may not ring a bell for casual fans, but if you check his record, he is a very good boxer as well and a KO artist and he almost beat the last unified 140 lbs champion in Josh Taylor.

And that's what make this fight exciting for us, a KO artist in Prograis and then Haney using his defense to his advantage and maybe beat Prograis with that kind of strategy and not allowing himself to get hit by the power of Regis here. But this should be at least fair for Regis to also get a good money in the purse split as he had the belt here.

Agree. So the A-side here is the challenger. I haven't fully watched the Taylor-Prograis unification fight but the stats are actually favoring Prograis slightly. Prograis keeps talking about wanting a rematch against Taylor or a fight with Ramirez yet he made the opposite move by refusing Top Rank's bigger offer and went to Matchroom.

I wonder if this fight is still a go. I hope this fight goes on. I want to see how Haney fares against a proven champion at 140 while I am also eager to see if Prograis still has it or if he is already declining as seen in his last fight.

I don't know why as well on why the rematch between Prograis and Taylor didn't materialized, or was there even a discussion about it? Anyway, if I'm correct, the later isn't having anymore of it as he might've though that his chapter against Prograis is already finish and there's nothing to prove anymore.

Now that Prograis is going to be challenged by an undisputed champion from 135, I bet he's thrilled by it specially after the fact that there are lots of fans thinking that he might lose this one because even if Haney is not a heavy hitter unlike like him, the unified champion got another asset that is quite difficult to approach.
931  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Sudden Wealth Syndrome (SWS) In Gambling on: August 24, 2023, 03:26:42 PM
Getting a financial advisor isn't cheap because their job is not that easy either and that is why when making a move like this, we should make sure that it's only a temporary situation so that in the long run, we will see our gains instead of only thinking about the funds we're paying for them instead of seeing it as a profit. It will be waste if we're hiring them as long as we're living in this world because we're not on of those billionaire tycoons that are gaining millions even while they are sleeping and isn't that bothered about the fees they are paying for their advisors.
Getting a financial advisor is really wasting money because they only talk about money management, investment (low, middle, high risk), and how to invest. They might not completely understand about each investment they offer, Bitcoin can be an example. They know the definition, how to use it and how to use an exchange, but they don't know with non custodial wallet, verify signature etc.

It's mean you're either need to learn by yourself or hiring a consultant that completely understand with Bitcoin.

Bitcoin isn't the only investment that is profitable because there are others as well out there who can also gives us the profit we wanted, it's the same, we just have to have that kind of capital to start it up. And it's not a total waste of money specially if you don't know how to handle your money as there is a huge chance that you will just go back from your original situation if you aren't smart enough to invest on such person and businesses.

These financial advisors or by your words consultant have a knowledge that will really help the client's situation because they don't want to lose any client either as that's one of their main source of income. If bitcoin is your only concern about the investments, I'm afraid for you.
932  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: I will pass KYC later is a bad idea on: August 24, 2023, 02:43:37 PM
Verifying later on is a good practice for privacy, while the other way around is assumption of having a security of the deposit and future withdrawals. Where in fact your account can be locked even though you are already kyc verified, since your KYC is not the only thing they will look at when there's a "suspicious" activity on the account. For those users who have single playing casino, that's good, not for those who have multiple casinos. Why people plays in different casino? Simply because they don't share the same odds, games, game provider, etc.
How possibility is good decision for verifying document later? what happen when suddenly account get freeze huge amount withdrawing activities will get easily for KYC approving? I don't think gambler want to create multiple casino account because hunting bonus signup is difficult with small offer, better KYC firstly before depositing fund and when huge amount withdrawing there are not get problem from gambling platform or casino required for verifying account.
Since many cases with account suddenly freeze with withdrawing activities, its warning for all gambling platform have to verify account firstly before active playing in gambling platform.

It depends on you, really. If you are looking for a casino that has an options to be verified later on then you yourself should already know the risks that are associated to it and practice being safe on the side as anything can happen to your account. In situations like that, it's much better if you will just pour a small funds towards the account so that you can accept what will happen along the road and if you have a winnings on that, be aware that you should withdraw some of it bit by bit because if you will withdraw it all in one go, they might freeze it.
933  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Has Bitcoin Helped Create Big Changes In Your Life? on: August 24, 2023, 09:31:41 AM
I wouldn’t be staying here for long if I’m not gaining advantages from this forum. And I’m sure other people as well will never waste their time reading and studying the forum if there are no positive benefit they can get from learning bitcoin.

Honestly, when I was new to this forum, I come to doubt the potentials of bitcoin, as if it could be a life changer when we know it’s just designed to be a currency. But when I started learning how to invest in bitcoin, that’s probably the beginning to experience the benefits of bitcoin and that I’m also bound to see my life changing gradually. And now my efforts have started to paid off. Aside from bitcoin investment, I’m also into signature campaign which certainly give me quite a sustainable income to provide the needs of my family.
934  Other / Beginners & Help / Re: Be careful with your identity documents and KYC on: August 23, 2023, 09:32:50 PM
Avoid giving out your personal documents and personal data because it can be used to steal all your money.
Avoid giving out personal information cause it can be used in a thousand and one ways against you and once that information is public you can never regain privacy.
You should consider any email address, password, name age and personal details you've submitted to any website to be compromised cause there is a huge black market for such information.

Do not rely on your Banks to do extra checks or on the exchange to be more careful with who the allow to register an account.
Simply, do not link your personal information to your bank account, that way you could avoid losing your money from your bank account. Or just avoid giving out all your information even when you see that there’s no shadow of scams, you may not be scam at the present but eventually your information will be used against you in the future. Caution is still the best key not to fall from every form of scam.
935  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: How real?That football players required to bribe before they are allowed to play on: August 23, 2023, 01:45:02 PM
Unfortunately that happens in world three countries, I didn’t hear stories but i witnessed that one of my family members that player two years for our local football team in third division, when it was time to join Senior team as he was so talented the coach and team responsables asked him to pay some large money to allow him join otherwise they won’t. So I’m very sure that this thing of bribing actually exists everywhere in our countries and that’s why it’s very possible for what happened to Mbapee.
I imagine how many talented players got disappointed and stopped their careers because of this. Since i noticed that foreign player from our country are more successful than here. For example Karim Benzema, Zinedine Zidane and more players from my region wouldn’t get as successful as if they stayed here.
What those people fail to realize is that due to their shortsightedness not only they affect many young talented players, they even affect themselves.

If those talented players were allowed to continue their natural development not only this will increase the overall level of their national team and their local league, this will also bring a lot of investment from inside and outside the country and they will be the first beneficiaries, as they could claim that success as their own, but they are so concentrated on just getting a slice of a small cake they do not realize they could get much more by simply doing nothing.

I definitely agree with you about it. What they are doing is they are already underestimating the newly sprouts that could make their team proud someday and instead of giving them the support and guidance that they needed to mold them and showcase what they are made of or what could they bring for the team, unfortunately, a short change is what they've got. And again, corruption is eating the industry that is why people aren't that convinced because they know what is happening behind the scenes even if they don't have any evidence for it.
936  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Tyson Fury vs Francis Ngannou Boxing October 28 on: August 23, 2023, 12:54:40 PM
We could call his recent weight though as out of shape, but he can carry that body, and he is still very agile so we can't question about his shape or what because he could be a freak of nature.
He looks out of shape, judging by the picture shared, but it doesn't matter as he has already proven that he is the best in the heavyweight division. When he defeated Wilder, he solidified his legacy in the division he currently reigns over. So, even if he does not look as intimidating with that body, I have no doubt he can still be the best once he steps into the ring.
One thing I noticed about that picture is that Fury looks young, so I will remain with what I thought about it, a very old picture of Fury. But as you have said, we all know what happens when he made his comeback, he proved everyone wrong, as he beat Wilder who for me the best HW during that time.

So looks could be deceiving, specially if you look at Fury, tall, fat and chubby, but he packs a power that I think will ko 99% of the fighters right now. But let's see against Francis who touted to be having a more powerful punch than him, it's just a question on whether he can land one big shot.

That picture was taken way back 2014 or 2015 which means during that year, Tyson Fury indeed looked like that, a boxer who looks like no passion at boxing at all but that was all a history because he is now a different version of himself and it is still debatable who will give him his first defeat in his career. Some people will say that Francis Ngannou might be the one but there's just one problem though, Ngannou is not a boxer so no matter what angle we try to look at it, Fury still have the upper hand in this fight.
937  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: [Boxing] Inoue vs Tapales for Unified Super Bantamweight Title - November on: August 23, 2023, 12:16:02 PM

Top Rank and Bob Arum should convince his handlers to at least go to US and explore their options there. Maybe there could be more money in the US market for them and they really need to break in the current market. Inoue is amongst the p4p right now, the US audience needs to see him fight live in their soil just like what Manny did during his prime. Asian fighter conquering US and making jump in weight classes.

That's the only criticism leveled at Inoue, despite him being a great boxer. I read an article stating that Floyd wants to see Inoue fight in the US. This country offers better opportunities for boxers like him, and he could also find better challengers in a larger market. I suppose he needs to accept that challenge to silence those who believe Inoue's victories are due to his fights being mainly in Japan.
Why does Floyd's statement matters? He said himself that he's just an ordinary fans now, just like us, because his time with the industry was already over and he certainly don't have any say whether the boxer chose to fight in his own country or not. But I get what's he trying to say because since Inoue's name grew bigger, he doesn't fight anymore outside Japan because they say that they can also get that much profit in their own country.

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I've also come across rumors about Inoue potentially fighting Tank Davis at a catch weight. I think that could be lucrative for both fighters. However, the question remains, do both of them see this as an opportunity?
I hear that one too but both camps aren't saying something towards each other to make the flame grew bigger. Maybe that will happen soon if Inoue will climb another ladder again because right now, they are divisions apart each other.


Maybe Floyd is just giving his advise to Inoue? Everyone of us wanted to see him fight in the US for sure as it is the mecca of boxing.

As for the rumours of Davis and Inoue, yeah, it was Stephen Espinoza, President of Showtime (SHO) who throws that idea to the public that it could be great if we will see this 2 pound pound fighter face off in the ring.

But for now it's a fantasy fight, even at a catchweight, I don't see it happening. Maybe if we see Inoue going as high as 130 lbs in the next couple of years then yeah maybe we can entertain it. But so far, Davis can go as high as 140-147 lbs.

Huge chance that both players will not meet each other in a same category because they are divisions away, I know that it's becoming a trend nowadays that a boxer will climb that much but as of the reality between Inoue and Davis, I don't see it happening specially that I know Davis wouldn't settle for less as he always like to be in the advantage. Just like the his fight against Garcia where different clauses are included in the contract just to secure his safety and to increase his chances, and it did happen.

That's about right. Inoue is still approaching to be the undisputed champion at 122 and it might take a year or two before he can accomplish that including his mandatory title defense if he chose to have some before moving up towards another weight class again. While Tank Davis, I don't know what are his plans but considering his weight and age, he might jump towards another weight class as well in a year or two.
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939  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: BITCOIN: Give people time! on: August 22, 2023, 08:47:44 PM
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940  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Boxing: Regis Prograis vs Devin Haney on: August 22, 2023, 03:25:24 PM
We have witnessed Tank vs. King Ry, Inoue vs. Fulton and Crawford vs. Spence. I am shaking my head why this young Devin Haney does not fight Shakur Stevenson and risk is undisputed lightweight championship against the best. These young boxers are sometimes only good in trashtalk, however, the opponents in their records are not big names.

Perhaps that's the reason why the Haney's sign with PBC, as he doesn't want to rematch Loma or fight Top Ranks Shakur Stevenson. But maybe they realized that they eat more than they can chew in choosing a reigning 140 lbs titlist in Regis Prograis. Much better, and has more power than any fighter that they have fought and so they want to take control of the negotiations in any way they can.

@Darker45 - if I'm not mistaken, the date is supposedly Oct 28 for them to clash.

This might be why we continue to witness more boxing fans start watching MMA. The organization behind boxing is in disorder because of these different promotions that compete against each other and these different championships that have their own mandatory rules. I reckon this makes it difficult for the best to negotiate with the other best and also much of the time, they avoid each other.

Haney's choice don't really make any sense in my perspective because if they want a strong boxer to establish his name, then his mandatory title defense, Shakur Stevenson is the answer for that and that is a big pot of money waiting for him. But for some other reasons, they choose to take some risks, a much risky fight against a much veteran fighter that can somehow compete against him, Regis Prograis who is also a champion at 140. And if he gets successful in his campaign, I guess the other three champions are much easier because they already took the down the bigger tree.
And you know what's another thing that Devin Haney says that it doesn't make sense, is that after his 140 lbs fight against Prograis or whoever it was, he says that he will go down to 135 lbs and fight Shakur.

It's because why he not fight Shakur right now? And instead choose to go up at 140 lbs and chase another belt? And then right now we heard stories that he is offering low money to Prograis?

We don't certainly know what's up with him or their camp or his promoter, PBC. But I know that it's a stunt again because PBC has been known to do these kind of tricks but one thing is for sure, this particular step don't help Haney in his case or whatever it is because it will not make his name pretty as why would it be now if it's already clear that he is ducking Shakur Stevenson.

I remember that he actually have the balls to say that "I'm Number 1" in front of Shakur while Shakur responded "hey, for now" and then skipped the mandatory fight while hiding behind the reason that he is more interested to fight Regis at 140 but he's making himself already special by making demands even if he's not in the position to ask for it.
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