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981  Economy / Economics / Re: How many Bitcoin do you have saved? on: October 09, 2016, 01:20:31 AM
I only have a very small amount of BTC, but I will try to make more  BTC . Because Iregard it as an investment , hold it for a long time。 So , I'm now looking for the way to how to obtain it , in addition to buy

It's not a big problem if you are a hard working person, you just learn to be more mature and resourceful on the ways to earn online, for sure there are a lot of opportunities here to make money, so it will just never quit of searching you can earn more and increase your holdings.

You can just buy some bitcoin and save them for the next few decades. Its price will rise quite a lot.
That seems to be a great idea but the big question is how many bitcoin do you need to buy?

Some people are buying a good volume of bitcoins to reflect their belief on the future but we have to understand that not all of us has the capacity to that, in other words we are not all rich here, some people are mere workers but of course they can save their earnings, and there is not fixed number of bitcoins to be invested as we do not have the same preference.
982  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Controlling your temper in gambling on: October 09, 2016, 01:15:39 AM
Im always doing the no.1. Its good to set a limit of win/loss coz staying in a gambling site for a long time is not a good idea as no one can win in the long run. So always set a limit of win and loss but sometimes managing the loss is hard resulting into breaking the limit you've set in loss.
you can always set the limit anytime you want , but remember to stick to the rules
it's will just useless if then you ignore everything you have planned
just be calm down , don't be hurry
play it using your heart not temper so you way will know when exactly you must stop at certain profit.
The thing is your heart is the reason of your temper in gambling, maybe the right statement would be play with your mind not with your heart. That is what professionals are doing in gambling that is why they are very successful as they are very clever not letting their emotion affect their decision making.
983  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Gambling addiction. on: October 09, 2016, 01:11:56 AM
Why is someone get addicted to gambling once he gamble ?
I think that people become addicted to gambling when they won one time because then they think that they can do it again and again.
They will ply until they win again and this just keeps going and going. It feels nice to know that you have won and leave with full pockets.
You are right but not only winning brings addiction but loosing too is very dangerous and makes us addicted. When we gamble and loose money, we are unhappy and within us a voice says that the next bet will be a winning one. So gambling is dangerous no matter if winning or loosing.

Ther is a fack about gambling on which I believe that an addicted continue to gamble if he continuously win and when he continuously lose then he one day leave it and if someone goes in mid then he will lose his time and money.
Gamblers with an addiction in gambling do gamble most of the time, and if he win he will still lose it in the end. Maybe that problem will continue unless he stop in gambling, the only solution I can see is just to let him learn the hard way and that is when bankruptcy happens to him.
984  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: How to win gambling with no lose? on: October 09, 2016, 01:08:46 AM
How can you think that you will win gambling without lose?
keep in mind that gambling is game and there you bet for your money and in bet one win and the other lose and it depend on luck that who win and who lose.
Maybe he is not ignorant in gambling and he has a plan to cheat in gambling.

That is a very stupid question actually because it is obvious that we the gamblers are losing so much our money and even our hard earned money in gambling.
985  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: How greedy you are ? on: October 09, 2016, 01:05:00 AM
spend all of my money to buying vga and mining ethereum classic.
i think im greedy to growing my money.
I think there’s a difference between wanting money and being greedy, in my opinion there’s nothing wrong with wanting a little bit more money, to want a more comfortable live, etc. Greediness is to want to obtain money no matter the cost. What you are doing is an investment that is all.
I certainly agree with your statement, being greedy means you have no satisfaction and you always want for more, therefore if you have that kind of attitude that is not good in gambling and you will only get a temporary win and still lose in the long run.
986  Economy / Economics / Re: Bitcoin worth to you or not... on: October 09, 2016, 01:01:17 AM
bitcoin really worth to me, it give me a good income and really satisfy from the income of bitcoin and hope that in future it will continue to give me income.

the opportunities with bitcoin earnings are growing with each passing day so it is sure that in the coming future we will see more income with bitcoin and will be a best option of income for us.

You are right, I also believe on that concept and it is because people now going to start their businesses with bitcoin and they want to pay only with bitcoin and in that manner the value of bitcoin also increases.
That is the effect of the increase in demand, the price has nowhere to go but up. I have seen how bitcoin grow this year and I have witness a remarkable year for bitcoin, this year was a massive increase and people especially the investors are really benefit with a big amount of profit.
987  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: What do you want to see in Bitcoin casinos? on: October 09, 2016, 12:56:56 AM
There really isn't much to add to online bitcoin casinos. Most casinos these days have it all. Its better in a physical casino because you can get perks like drink or hotel rooms, but online that's not really possible.

Yeah online casinos has much more features but still they are not rich like offine casinos, as on offline casinos you can see a lot of other features which online casinos are unable to adopt, like at there we meet to friends and make new friends , there we can get the availability of different things for food etc and and others etc.
we can make a friend through a chat box unfortunately oshi.io didn't have yet this feature in their platform, it's impossible to implemented everything in offline asino to online casino like what you said. online casino provide another advantage beside it , you can gamble anywhere and anytime in online casino through your mobile phone. what i expect in oshi.io or any casino are the sportsbook just it.
Yes, this is the main advantage of online casino. We can do gambling from anywhere, and anything means through mobile also we can do gambling. And here we don't need big bankroll, how much we have with that we can do our bettings. No restrictions nothing. But only one disadvantage is we will not get that much enjoyment to compare offline gambling.
I will not see it as a disadvantage as in real life many people prefer to gamble online and bitcoin online casinos have help them a lot to enjoy. The fact that you will not spend to much time going to a physical casino, that is already a great advantage.
988  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Everyone looses in the long run on: October 09, 2016, 12:52:15 AM
Theoretically it seems sports betting is area where making money is easy and even loosing on some games isn't big thing. I talk about my own experience and of few other people closer to me. The idea id to share how it works and why everyone looses in the long run. We keep playing and winning/loosing but we are still in profit. This has impact on us and we start playing bigger and at some stage few larger bets are enough to level the all winnings to where we stated at or even worse than that.
Wow! Saying that would not make me believe, there are absolutely no easy money in sports betting and even in other forms of gambling. Still we need to work hard to develop our skills and a lot of factors to be considered in order to be successful in sports betting, if you want to succeed, you need to be full time and that means quitting your day job if you have one and that is not easy.
989  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Do you consider trading as gambling? on: October 09, 2016, 12:49:24 AM
to me gambling is some thing different from trading, trading is less risky than gambling, gambling is totally a game of luck while in trading you must have good knowledge about the product and must have good trading skill.

I do not think its less more risky because in my eyes it stays almost even risky to do, gambling is very risky if you are asking me, it has maybe some more options so maybe a little less more risky but its stays almost the same in my eyes..

But you understood wrongly because gambling is not for making money and just to have a fun so there is not point that it is risky unless you use gambling to make a profit then it is very risky. If you have some skills and go for long trades then it is more safer to make a money from trading. Both are different if you use it correctly.
In overall that is really what gambling are suppose to be, it is very hard to win here in the long run as in the first place most of us does not have a decent bankroll to start, let us take for example sports betting as people said it can be learn and strategy would work but there are a lot of factors to be considered and one of that is the bankroll.
990  Economy / Economics / Re: Best way for steady income on: October 08, 2016, 03:47:01 AM
Hello All,

What you think is the best investment to gain steady income in btc without actively doing anything?
So no trading/gambling/loaning etc.

Steady income more likely to be 'small & secure' than 'big & risky'.

Thanks,
BR Oinas
The best way for a steady income is to just have a job because Bitcoin is not going to let you have a steady income because the Bitcoin is not stable at all time.
Just take a job because then you will be sure that you earn money every month.
Yeah full time job will give you steady income and in bitcoin  you can earn steady income from signature campaign but what fiat you will receive in hands will depend on the price of bitcoin.
Not only with signature campaign but any work where we will be expert in doing and we will do that with whole heart, we will get a continuous and steady income from there i.e if we learn about trade with bitcoin and altcoin and start to do trade then I am sure we will get a steady income for longer period.
There are many ways to earn here but working will only give you stable income, when you talk of trading and investing that would not give you steady income as there are no traders that has consistently make money on a daily basis, some of them have a bad day also.
991  Economy / Trading Discussion / Re: How do I grow my btc? on: October 08, 2016, 03:38:23 AM
Altcoins trading can be a good alternative these days... with the high volatility you may have considerable gains, but the same volatility may also cause you losses. It is therefore important to know the market before investing.

To grow your bitcoin without any trading experience I would suggest you to head over the the services sub forum there's so much stuff you could do for bitcoin that for sure one of those things matches your skills if you have got some skills. Especially IT can make a lot of money of course.
That is not growing your bitcoin because what you will do is offer your services to make bitcoins, I think what the Op would try to as is how to grow his bitcoins using his bitcoins, and the only way I can see that is possible to do it is thru investment.
992  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: The best way to quit gambling for good on: October 08, 2016, 03:30:47 AM
If you really want to quit gambling for good, then stop thinking about it and get yourself engaged in other activities which would divert your mind from gambling as that is the only possibly way to quit it. Else, there are many websites which could help you stop gambling.
That's right, do an activity that is not related or with connection to gambling. You have made a decision to quit in gambling because it has ruin your life already so that is a serious problem and every serious problems requires a serious solution and quitting is good, so you have to be very submissive for a change and let other people help your especially your friends and family.
993  Economy / Economics / Re: If you were in desperate need for money.... on: October 08, 2016, 03:25:42 AM
In that situation I will prefer to sell my unwanted stuffs to get quick money or else I will borrow it from my friends so that it can take care of me at the time of emergencies.
It is not easy to sell your unwanted stuffs so you will need to wait for more time before you can generate the money you need, borrowing from your friends is more feasible and for sure they will lend you money if you are really in desperate needs, the good thing is that you will no longer pay an interest.
994  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: is gambling fix your life? or wreck your life? on: October 08, 2016, 03:19:41 AM
i think gambling  has no such bad effect on my life, as i do gambling in limit and that is the reason that i never booked such a big lost in one time. 
I wish you continue with your limit always, but usually most of the gamblers are failing over time with their initial plans. As long as you will be following your plans of having some limits with your gambling, I believe you can escape from gambling addictions and its bad consequence of getting life wrecked.
That's because we let our emotions manage us in gambling, we usually fail when we are losing a big amount of money and we tend to chase our bets. Not really advisable with that kind of thinking and it is better to quit gambling than risk our future in gambling.
995  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: 2016/17 NBA Off-Season on: October 08, 2016, 03:14:00 AM
During the era of the Big 3 in Miami, it was not actually that easy for the Heat to really adjust to their new roles. Remember those losing streaks and arguments with their coach? Chris Bosh had to learn how to shoot more from the outside while Dwayne Wade had to accept the fact that he can't be the main man anymore. I think the Warriors are going to experience the same thing in the beginning but they are going to be fine in the long run.
Maybe, but I wanted to point out something here, Durant aint Lebron. They have a different style of playing and obviously Lebron James is a dominant player inside the court that Durant is not based on my opinion.

Steve Kerr is a great coach and I think Durant will fit in their strategy. I'm not saying Spoelstra is bad, but there is still difference in thier coaching. With that, Durant will adjust quickly.

Like what difference? It's more complicated to make 3 guys on the floor with the same style rather than those Miami Heat big 3 where even has a different role still hard to adjust.

Curry , Thompson and Durant are all main man. It will be more effective if one of them will step down to make room for another and in this case it must be Durant. Wanna know why Wade put trust on Lebron? He sees Lebron as a great teammate and can be a leader of their team that's why he step down. He clearly see how James lift the CAVS in their first final apperance despite of struggles in the playoffs. Do you think Curry and Thompson has the same thinking about Durant?

Like what I said above, this is the challenge of Steve Kerr on how he will blend his three superstars without the act of incompatibility since those three have quiet same position on the floor.  Leadership is somehow the question here since I think Klay Thompson is now the bossy in their roster after he outshined Steph Curry in terms of playoffs performance and he is the most productive one when GSW survives at OKC's 3-1 lead and the recent finals.

But well, if Durant really needs a ring he must cooperate with the pioneers there and I think in just few games he can adjust.
Whatever their decision the only way we can determine if they really perform well is only base on their record, it is not really easy to blend superstars as they have their own pride and people will not be unanimous of who to support as their best player in the warriors squad.
996  Economy / Trading Discussion / Re: I've got $20k to invest. Please recommend! on: October 08, 2016, 03:07:02 AM
Investing that much money requires a lot of thought so I couldn't just tell you like this but I'd advice you to really look up where you should invest into without just taking blind advice from a thread cause there are a lot of scammers looking for big investors like yourself.
yes mate thats a huge amount much better to make research and study your business if you have interest from it, knowing inputs or listening to an advise is not bad but it is much better to go and make your own assessment funding something or leave your fate to others is not a good idea mate big amount of money is too hot for scammers so be very careful.
In the end it is our decision that really matters because that is our money at risk, when we are in a business there are only two outcome either you lose or you win by making profit, that's why some called business like gambling your money.
997  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: the easiest way to make a profit from gambling? on: October 08, 2016, 03:00:55 AM
hello, I would like to try my luck from gambling.

what kind of gambling that you think is easy to make a profit? and what strategies are you using?
If you want to make some easy money with gambling then you need to bet money on sports games because you can just pick the better team.
the odds can then be in your favor so you have a higher chance of winning.
Uhm I dont think you can make easy money even in sportsbetting.  Maybe you got a higher chance of making a profit compared to dice or any casino games but you still cant make easy money. Remember it is still a gambling and theres no way you can make easy money in gambling.
type of gambling that is easy to make a profit is the sports betting I think. because I think it is easy to predict, there is no manipulation of results or fraud. You even easier to bet on big teams. although it does not guarantee to always win, but at least most of them always win.
We have a decent chance to make profit in sports betting but it was not that easy mate, everything has a risk and it requires a lot of information to improve your knowledge in sports betting, if you are a good sports handicapper you will certainly make money in the long run.
998  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: When gambling makes you cry. on: October 08, 2016, 02:52:31 AM
gambling never made me cry, and the reason is that i always do gambling in a limit and never try to exceed that limit, when reach to that limit then i stop gambling for the day and never try to play gambling any more on that day.

I also never cried at gambling because its something that I love to do and its also that gambling is something you have to do for the fun and enjoyment and not for the profit.. its just stupid if you do!
I never cried because of gambling, but I never been disappointed a few times, because I really was expecting a victory in a game of chance, but it never happened, and it made me upset, but I guess it will not make me cry, because gambling is my choice and I am already getting ready before starting the game
You are still in the safe zone dude, although you lose but I know you can afford what you have lose in gambling, you will only cry in the future if you will not be able to control your self in gambling and eventually you will be addicted. It's a disease and hard to cure, so we should always be careful.
999  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Do you consider trading as gambling? on: October 08, 2016, 02:47:34 AM
Yes, trading can be considered gambling as both need luck because markets may go against us and during that situation, we cannot do anything. The only advantage we get here is we are able to cut the losses by getting out earlier, while in gambling, once it goes, it never comes back.
True trading can be considered as gambling too where both need to waste money and risk money you cant say that you dont need to waste money there you need luck and you will know what to do
But, the risk levels in trading is minimum compared to gambling as trading allows us to use our knowledge in time to time. But, if we are extremely lucky, we can trade in gambling-way like without any research and analysis, we will be able to book profit in trading. Maybe that is the reason people are calling trading also a gambling.

Well, if you trade without reading anything or doing some research then that is definitely gambling, since you are just putting your money on the table and hoping for the best.


It's even worth than gambling, because in casino you know the odds of each bet, but in blind trading you have no idea what's going on, you can't say that chance of price of going up or down is 50%.
Blindly trading is like gambling base on your luck. And that is not good if you want to succeed in trading, you cannot make profit in the long run, you need to exert some effort for you to be successful in trading and do the right research and learn from your mistakes by improving your method.
1000  Economy / Economics / Re: When do you buy Bitcoin ? on: October 08, 2016, 02:45:18 AM
Bitcoin is not for sale. This is an investment for a long time. What is waiting for investors ahead of a very good income dreamed of all. Just a few years to wait.
Lol actually what you meant? of course bitcoin sale. anyone can buy any number they want bitcoin, bitcoin is a commodity and currency, anyone can use it, the problem here is when the right time to buy bitcoin
There is no need to worry when to buy bitcoin as we know already on the standard principle that we buy bitcoins when the price is low, now it should be base on the decision of a certain investor to evaluate and determine what is the low price, for me I see the current price as low.
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