I'm not really serious about it. I found it funny the guy that said I shouldn't wish death on my political opponents died when he was a political opponent.
It's an interesting concept because out of all our arguments, he went to leave a rep for that
I hope your not hinting that you think it’s funny that he died.. What are you getting at here? You killed him with your comments about genocide? OP here is a bit of a left wing extremist.. Kill all people who don’t believe in climate change, lol.. The vax too? Don’t forget my name on your list of dissenters to round up because I don’t believe the vast majority of the “man made global warming” story either.. |
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That post was created one month before you opened this topic. If your account changed owner before getting banned, the address is most likely posted by someone who isn't the original owner. Account GreatOrchid was created in 2014, you're showing a post from 2019. Why did you ignore this question? Are you the real original GreatOrchid?
If so, tell me.. Who is Lurker?
Lets see if you are really even you.. I have no idea who Lurker is, but eddie13 seems to think you should know. I would really need to dig hard in order to find any previous old addresses. I haven't much used those wallets since than as most of those wallets were been only used for bounties which were not actually permanent. I don't even have backup from past 4-5 years. But yet, I would try my best to find some oldest addresses and try to find private keys for those. Now coming back to lurker, he was one of my associate back in the past. I don't know why would that be creating a panic over here. Years passed since we were in last contact and that's why I didn't find replying to this useful. I thought it is nothing to be discussed about. Pretty good way to tell if your the original, or just an account hacker, if you know things from “years passed”.. That’s the entire point.. Not an extremely satisfying answer, but I say give him his account back with a signature ban.. This forum needs legit users.. |
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Also, i believe bitcoin's major purpose was to do with being an alternative electronic payment system  “Chancellor on brink of second bailout for banks” The purpose of Bitcoin is to save the people from the evils of banks, especially the feds.. To take the power of printing money away.. The financial stranglehold they keep us in.. It’s basically slavery.. Meanwhile.. “Trudeau announced C$4.5 billion ($3.43 billion) in measures on Tuesday intended to provide relief from high inflation to low-income families.” (Yeah sure) Print more money to ease inflation caused by printing money.. I think you guys just don’t get it.. I don’t care about the money.. I don’t give a shit about a little drop in price as if it hurts my pocket or it’s going to shake me out.. Lmao no.. I really care very little about short term price changes.. It may as well be $500 because I’m not selling shit at $20,000 or $30,000 or $50,000.. It’s the MEANING! The price dumping on an inflation report like this means that most of the market is in the hands of people that are in Bitcoin for the wrong reasons.. Probably only trying to profit.. If not manipulate the market in the direct opposite of performance that would signify it fulfilling its purpose.. |
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Bitcoin dumps off a cliff...
Maybe you haven't noticed but it was heavily pumped in the last 3 days and it dumped pretty much the amount it gained in that time. This doesn't have to mean that people are abandoning bitcoin or getting scared of the inflation report. It can simply mean that short-term traders who recently bought decided to take profits. It's funny that bitcoin can gain 15% and then dump 10%, but people will only see the dump ignoring that it's still up 5% Heavily pumped? To me that was more like “recovered a little”.. It just recovered a tiny bit and now that’s all gone.. |
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Important report comes out that inflation is pretty bad (USD)..
Bitcoin dumps off a cliff..
This is the exact opposite of what Bitcoin is supposed to do..
Has Bitcoin strayed too far from its purpose?
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Just noticing these new OP tags by the username..
When did that happen?
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Damn nicehash hit me with KYC because I haven't used my account in a while!?
Hi buddy. This thread is about Fortunejack. Are you sure this is the right thread to post that? I believe it would be better if you create a thread about nicehash with this post. This thread is about selective KYC.. It is basically the same exact situation with a different company, and is happening to many many companies, almost all of them, all almost exactly the same way, to likely thousands upon thousands of users across the crypto world, and I can only guess how many users just choose to forfeit their coins instead of jumping through all these hoops... Much of this discussion is about this topic and the ethics thereof.. Is their some worldwide law forcing all of these companies to do this? Or did they all just learn a dirty little trick, that some will support, that they can use to keep some percentage of users coins? |
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Damn nicehash hit me with KYC because I haven't used my account in a while!? "Your account is labelled as inactive. Due to our internal security policy, we instruct our users with sleeping-inactive accounts (accounts that weren’t used for several months) to complete the KYC procedure. This procedure enables us to diligently detect and prevent any malicious or unlawful use or use prohibited by our Terms of Service.” How the hell does KYC protect my account because I haven't used it in a while? KYC me because of inactivity? I'll say it.. THIS IS SELECTIVE SCAMMING! You know what the last thing Cryptsy did in desperation to slow down withdrawals when the gig was up and they were running out of funds? Enforce KYC for WDs ofcourse.. Times are tough in the crypto industry.. This selective scamming could be what's saving them from bankruptcy by the skin of their teeth.. -snip-
And they won't even reply.. If I had many miners on different IPs all over the place looking like a botnet then maybe, but I have only ever had ONE miner on this account! I have also never used their exchange or anything other than sell a tiny bit of hash.. Pisses me off too.. I haven't KYCd with them.. Yet.. Not sure if I ever will either.. Spent a lot of time earning a tiny bit of satoshis mostly for fun, because I like crypto, and they try to keep it.. As if they didn't make enough off of their cut.. These places know well that most people aren't going to KYC for a few bucks and that's money in their pocket.. This is why crypto is going to shit.. Especially "influential" crypto community members coming to threads like this supporting this BS.. I bet you support all laws everywhere and just want more and more laws all the time don't ya? Bet ya wish you'd go to jail for not using only your 1 assigned public key too.. OMG people might launder money and avoid taxes!! How EVIL! Shit isn't even $50! Oh yeah and now they force me to use 2FA too to even log in and see my not even $50 that my account couldn't even WD if it tried! ["my not even $50" - ahem excuse me.. my account entry on their centralized ledger that says I have something on deposit. - Not your keys, Not your coins!] You know why? Another method of selective scamming.. You think if I lose my 2FA I would go through all the BS it takes to get my account back for <$50? Maybe not.. Many wouldn't.. I'd probably put it off because I'm lazy (just like I am with KYC) and eventually forget about it.. Just another opportunity they use to possibly get to keep your coin! I liked how coinbase said "your account is quite valuable ... we recommend you use 2FA".. Ok yeah, probably a good idea to turn that on.. But for <$50? It's just an unnecessary hassle.. KYC and 2FA... "He he, lets see how many users don't make it through this maze so we can keep their coins!" (rubs hands together) I'm with you OP.. This stuff grinds my gears too.. Any excuse not to shell out a single shekel.. |
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Still, as I said above, if you want to port all your NFTs to bitcoin, then I, or anybody else for that matter, can't stop you. People like me are obviously not the target market here. So rather than arguing about the utility or futility of NFTs, let me ask you (as someone who is obviously heavily involved in NFTs) this: Why do you think people are doing all this activity on Ethereum instead of on Bitcoin? What should we do to get this activity on to Bitcoin instead?
I wouldn’t consider myself extremely heavily involved in NFTs, or a expert.. I have just done it for fun for a long time.. I have only ever used Bitcoin for NFTs, and more recently a little bit on Doge (same tech just cheaper, less serious).. What grinds my gears a bit is people porting them FROM Bitcoin TO ETH.. I’m not trying to sell any of you anything except the idea that we should be concerned about Bitcoin competing in this market, come to an understanding of why it isn’t competing, and do something about it.. I am not only showing that Bitcoin is not competing here, but also that ETH is even directly taking some of this market from Bitcoin that was originally on Bitcoin.. Why is this? Good question.. We should brainstorm about this (if anyone cares).. A main reason I can think of.. Nobody cares!!! Y’all don’t care.. Just dismiss it.. Even enforce your dismissal by bashing it entirely.. Another big reason could be awareness.. I don’t think people are even aware of the capability of doing the same things on Bitcoin, or why it would be better to do on Bitcoin.. With ETH 2.0 coming up so soon their is good chances that ETH could crash entirely, and I would not consider it a stable and reliable blockchain at all, is one good reason I would say it would be better to do on Bitcoin.. What should we do to get this activity on to Bitcoin instead? I don’t know.. Any ideas instead of just bashing and dismissing it? Awareness? Support? Usage? Investment? Interest? Development support? Network support? Exchange support? All of which are almost zero! Really, most of the replies in this thread show exactly why.. So much hostility.. Guarantee you wouldn’t find this same hostility in the ETH community, even if persons don’t like NFTs or tolkens at all, I bet their glad that they are using ETH and that they have almost all but cornered the market.. |
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These are my favorite types of arguments that people use against the prospect of having to learn something new: "We own the high ground by continuing to not understand the subject of discussion." Pretty much all the counterpoints being made in this thread come from a place of arrogant ignorance, and they largely overlap with the same arguments that no-coiners have been making against bitcoin for years: - NFTs are a fad - they're not real - they're not backed by anything - they're a ponzi scheme - they have no utility. Well, you're wrong, just as no-coiners are often wrong in their attacks on bitcoin. Its just more comfortable to make sweeping generalizations and stick with them forever than make slight alterations to your world view in light of new information. Two RAREPEPEs (Nakamoto Cards) Purchased in Same Dayhttps://twitter.com/EmblemVaultBot/status/1563077252983635969 Two wrapped RAREPEPE cards (the original & most valuable Rare Pepe) were sold within a few hours of each other; one for 6.64 BTC (~$142,400) and the other for 6.54 BTC. This is huge, not only in dollar terms and significance, but because the new price floor for these cards in now 12 BTC. I almost bought one of those back in 16 or 17 before the $20k pump.. I was there, had the funds, and could have got one for around 0.25 BTC in value iirc.. I didn’t and bought a bunch of other lesser ones.. That Nakamoto Card didn’t just boom out of the middle of nowhere, it always had high value soon after the Rare Pepe project started gaining traction.. It slowly gained and gained value.. From little to 0.25 BTC, to 0.5 BTC, to 1 BTC, all through the pump, and held all through the bear thereafter.. These were and are not some pump and dump.. These early cards always held very well and keep gaining.. Now, for those of you not in the know.. These times were before the term “NFT” existed.. Before OpenSea existed.. Before any of the NFT hysteria ever happened.. We all had TONS of fun doing this! And put down tons of use on Bitcoin doing this.. And now what? They are commanding the highest price after being moved to the ETH blockchain! To me this is sickening! How much more Bitcoin does it get than Nakamoto? WTF? And to the point of the value being the “art” and “real artists” etc.. Their is more to “art” than simply the supposed quality of the imagery.. Their is an entirely different concept of “art” in memes.. You can be the greatest artist in the world and not be able to create “memes”.. Great memes are the art of condensing one or many points and meanings into a simple concise image that is TRULY worth a thousand words, and the simpler the better.. A great meme is simplicity that describes or represents complex things, and that’s the beauty of it.. The “art” is in the meaning and the simpler the representation the better.. “Rare Pepe” itself is a meme, quite fresh back then.. Dorian Nakamoto is a meme.. The meme of making Pepes truly rare by stamping them on the Bitcoin blockchain in limited tradable and transferable quantities is and was absolutely genius.. The “art” isn’t that great? Well let’s see your great artists do something genius like that.. It’s a whole lot more than the subjective quality of the appearance.. And it’s being moved to ETH  Very sad.. Let’s have a little look at the general thoughts about/toward ETH within the project at the time..     dnd dice creatorHmm… Shit art you say? Let’s see your artists express meaning like that.. This isn’t just about the Rare Pepes project though.. It’s just a great and ironic example that proves the point of Bitcoin losing this market share this topic is about.. —————————————— Another great irony I’m seeing here.. “Merit cycling club” avatars arguing against the value of memes/“poor art”, while being paid handsomely to wear a meme avatar which is “poor art”, being merited by foxpup himself who pays them to wear this meme which is “poor art”, and meriting eachother..  Can’t make this shit up folks.. It is just a meme, right guys? Are you bicycling the merit speedway? Some sort of charity like a marathon to end breast cancer riding your bicycles to be paid in forum merits? Are you cycling merits amongst yourselves gaming the system in your club to control DT with your I’ll gotten voting power? Or, is it a poorly drawn MEME mocking other users who complain about you all meriting eachother? (Good example of a great meme, poorly drawn, “low quality”, one would only know the meaning of you were “in the know”, picture worth a thousand words) Also of great value to some it seems.. Hold on, let me see if I can figure out how much $$/BTC is being spent to show it around.. Calculating… Since I stand firmly against all these PAID2POST campaigns and feel only NET POSITIVE services should be advertised on the forum, I present...  BTC0.015 per week March 2019.. About 3.5 years.. 52X3.5X0.015=2.73BTC per participant.. Holy shit.. How many participants? Let’s guess 5.. Over 13 BTC for a meme.. Even at a paltry $20k per that’s a fucking quarter million $$ USD.. Y’all better 180 and praise the value of memes to the highest heaven.. Damn y’all are getting rich posting on this forum, on top of your CM signatures.. No wonder you post so much.. If only I could conform myself to the “in” crowd and spend all my time posting.. how people could be so stupid as to spend all that money on some MS paint drawing?
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sometimes the counterwallet cannot be accessed, is there any other site to access this counterparty wallet, I want to see my old wallet but can't access it because the website is always under maintenance, hope there are friends who share this information
https://freewallet.io/is this website safe and recommended, sorry if I ask because there are so many fraudulent wallets scattered everywhere so I am worried about losing my money and funds in my wallet, thank you for replying to my message, success always for you I have used it for quite sizable amounts (BTC and others) and have never lost my coins.. I have had smaller amounts of coins (BTC and others) sitting in these wallets for an entire year and they are still there.. I imagine it will also only be as safe and your laptop/device, passwords used, encryption used, etc.. I also always make small test transactions, and triple check my addys.. |
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we should be trying to get bitcoin to be the main backed asset for the pegged tokens used in the metaverse, before ethereum takes too much control and become the common currency of web3
Absolutely! Things like this.. It should be pushed that if you want to do serious/important things, it needs to be done on Bitcoin.. As above, what useful things are you envisaging which should be conducted on bitcoin instead of some shitcoin?
That $30 billion NFT volume is an obvious one.. Just because you think their stupid doesn’t mean it isn’t a huge market.. I think they can be a lot of fun, and then at times when some people want to pay stupid money for them, I sell them.. I think a lot of crypto users talk about NFTs just like nocoiners talk about Bitcoin.. They see a huge profit opportunity slip by so they have to come up with reasons to justify to themselves why they didn’t partake.. So there goes a $30 billion market away from Bitcoin to ETH, and news headlines all over the place for ETH and not Bitcoin.. All that tolken mania in 2017.. Scammy or not that pumped the price of ETH HUGE because of the use case and gas fees.. https://www.coindesk.com/markets/2018/02/19/the-real-problem-with-nocoiners/ what makes a nocoiner a nocoiner is not simply the absence of cryptocurrency from his investment portfolio, but his sanctimonious attitude about it. people who missed their opportunity to buy Bitcoin at a low price ... and who [are] now bitter at having missed out. The nocoiner takes out his or her bitterness on Bitcoin Hodlers, by constantly claiming that Bitcoin will crash, is a scam, is a bubble, or other types of easily refuted FUD. In other words, a nocoiner is full of what philosophers call ressentiment, defined by La Wik as "a reassignment of the pain that accompanies a sense of one's own inferiority/failure onto an external scapegoat. The nocoiner isn't just skeptical or even bearish about bitcoin. He feigns epistemic certainty that it will fail. A nocoiner doesn’t simply express doubt about the use cases for cryptocurrency – he declares, unequivocally, that there are no use cases at all, in the face of evidence to the contrary. Now if that doesn’t sound familiar… Hmmmm.. |
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Checking in for interest.. Physical is on fire right now
Oh? Is my brass Cas half worth 0.8X again yet? |
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sometimes the counterwallet cannot be accessed, is there any other site to access this counterparty wallet, I want to see my old wallet but can't access it because the website is always under maintenance, hope there are friends who share this information
https://freewallet.io/ |
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That is not possible on bitcoin and will never be.
Give us one actual use case of tokens in real world then we talk about whether bitcoin should add this useless feature or not.
It is entirely possible and has been for like 8 years.. It is absolutely functional.. The point is that most run to some other shitcoin to do these things instead of using Bitcoin.. The vast majority of NFTs, tolken issuances, and smart contracts are being done on altcoins Because the vast majority of these things have no real world use. Bitcoin has a very clear and defined real world use - as a currency - with millions of people using it for this exact reason. What's the point of 99% NFTs other than to make profits for their creators? What's the point of 99% of tokens other than to make profits for their creators? I don't want them anywhere near bitcoin. Leaving out stablecoins, then the token with the largest marketcap is Shiba Inu. Knowing absolutely nothing about this token, I decided to read the text about it on Coinmarketcap: Once upon a time, there was a very special dog. That dog was a Shiba Inu, and this dog inspired millions of people around the world to invest money into tokens with the dog's image on it. Yeah, I don't want my global peer to peer currency, which is securing and transferring billions of dollars worth of value every day for people around the world, encumbered with this sort of trash, thanks. Shiba's success sparked an avalanche of copycats, such as BitShiba, Shiba Fantom, Shibalana, King Shiba, SHIBAVAX, Captain Shibarrow, SHIBA2K22, SpookyShiba and countless others. In total, there may be well over 100 Shiba Inu copies, and the number keeps rising constantly. Over 100 clones of a completely pointless memecoin. I'm more than happy for Ethereum to bog down their whole project by catering to this sort of nonsense. Tell me what problem Shiba Inu is addressing? What question can be asked in which Shiba Inu is a solution (other than how do we part fools from their money)? Next up is wrapped bitcoin, which would obviously be pointless on the bitcoin network. Next up is UNUS SED LEO. The only reason it exists is to bail out Bitfinex after they lost a whole bunch of users' funds. If you can present a token which actually solves a real world issue, and isn't either some part of a get rich quick scam or otherwise built simply to make the creators profit, then it could be a potential addition to bitcoin. Otherwise, I'm more than happy that 99% of tokens, NFTs, and so on are issued on altcoins. The only bitcoin "token" I use is BSQ colored bitcoins. I would be curious to hear if other people are regularly using other such projects? You don’t want all this thriving economy to be flowing on Bitcoin rather than its competitors? You don’t want Bitcoin miners making all this profit off of TX fees rather than the competitors? You’d rather all this volume be on Bitcoin competitors because you simply dislike them? Like it or not, OpenSea has done over $30 billion in volume.. On the competitors blockchains.. You know what they are even doing? They are even taking MY stuff, that I created on Bitcoin, wrapping it into Etherium, and selling it to be traded on the Etherium blockchain! I have even caught these f***s claiming to be the creators of MY stuff after having wrapped it onto ETH, and even some straight up plagiarizing MY stuff.. OpenSea lists things on 3 shitcoin blockchains, but won’t list things on the Bitcoin blockchain.. “I would be curious to hear if other people are regularly using other such projects?” I use the crap out of Counterparty on Bitcoin.. It’s worth less than 1/3 of the Bitcoin that had to be burned to create it now, and is only listed on one obscure exchange.. Everyone on this forum: “We don’t want that on Bitcoin! Ick! Let the shitcoins have all that economy..” Ok guys.. Well I like to use Bitcoin because I think USING Bitcoin is good.. I think pretty much ANY use of Bitcoin is good, and would rather give my business to Bitcoin than those centralized shitcoins (as loyse correctly points out).. But just because they are centralized doesn’t mean they aren’t competitors, taking economy away from Bitcoin.. Exactly what TPTB want.. Most “crypto” users don’t know or care much about the principles of decentralization, and are happy to just use some centralized competitor.. “Let them” I guess eh? Don’t compete? “Those Japanese cars will never be able to compete with the American big 3” they said.. “They aren’t really competitors because they aren’t exactly the same”… |
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People just aren’t interested in using Bitcoin and it’s a shame..
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The vast majority of NFTs, tolken issuances, and smart contracts are being done on altcoins, 90% of which can already be done on Bitcoin, and meanwhile Counterparty (the cost to do this on Bitcoin) is only on one obscure exchange with almost no volume..
And development is very slow because interest is very low..
The only good points I’ve seen in this thread so far is about get rich quick scheme hype and fake market cap..
Still the vast majority of this action is being done on ETH while it can be done even cheaper on BTC..
Look at all these exchanges listing ETH tolkens and none listing ones on Bitcoin..
It seems to me that Bitcoin maximalists have just given up on this market segment..
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I know that some people might consider this off-topic, but look at it from a radically different angle: If you want to advertise stuff for free, why don't you give your inputs on BIPs and upgrades to the Bitcoin Network? You are on a bitcoin forum after all, and it does not cost any money to do that. You don't even have to be a developer or technically competent to participate in those discussions. The headlines and subjects of most of those initiatives are simple enough for the average user to understand. I am seeing a major problem that is slowly growing bigger and bigger. It's that most people assume that since they don't understand how something works they think they can't give constructive feedback. This creates a loop, and eventually nobody else is talking about the proposals and they grind to a standstill. And it is not only limited to Bitcoin too, it can be seen in any software engineering space where further development depends solely on the advancements made by individuals around the world. If you look in the archives of the "Development and Technical Discussion" forum and the bitcoin-dev mailing list, you can see that a lot of ideas have been proposed that have gotten literally no answer, and then the people who have proposed them have disappeared ever since. Simply because there is no dialogue! The projects you guys are promoting are developed by small bands of people like you and I, and they also depend on feedback to keep going. If you shut off the feedback, one of two outcomes is going to happen: 1) it is going to die out or 2) if it is a more sustainable project it will become hardened by its own ideas to the point where it becomes a rogue project - and this has happened to quite a number of projects: From mixers and wallet software to mining pools [Hi Roger Ver] to even non-crypto projects such as Brave, some boffins wuld also include ElasticSearch (even Facebook and Google started with halos on their heads). Or for an example that is closer to home, it isn't hard to see now a rift occuring in the network, because institutions and software are clinging on to old standards. Other people try to update these standards to improve the network, and get discouraged when nobody adopts them. Look at how many exchanges are still using Legacy addresses, for example. This post isn't simply a wild biosphere of theory. I am making efforts right now to support the new address formats inside signed messages. But the problem I have is not a technical one, it's that nobody is giving feedback about anything. So how are people like me supposed to know if anybody agrees with the changes proposed? So please, while you are busy making posts to meet your signature campaign quota, I urge you all to consider setting aside a few posts for constructive comments on these proposals. Remember, that the prices will only go up on the condition that Bitcoin-related work is further advanced. Promotion will only be fruitful if corresponding amount of dialogue is made. I read dev and tech at times but your right, I don’t comment because most of it is over my head.. Maybe I should even if my comments come from a poor understanding because it will bump threads and probably lead to me learning more from replies to me.. What I would really like to promote is more awareness of what can be done on Bitcoin through counterparty because it is so much fun to use and leads to so much use of Bitcoin.. Things that can be done on Bitcoin through Counterparty also has so much potential to bring market share back to Bitcoin from all of these other shitcoins promising smart contracts and tolkenization.. I want Bitcoin to lead these markets and it not just be thrown away to other shitcoins.. |
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Look at the top altcoins.. All that market share taken away from Bitcoin mostly for the promise of tolkenization and smart contracts..
Most of that can already be done on Bitcoin, and with more development time and expertise even more is possible..
So why are you all so complacent to let all that market share slip away to other shitcoins when it could be kept in Bitcoin itself?
All of you supposed Bitcoin maximalists, have you ever even used the DEX on bitcoin? Did you even know their was a DEX on Bitcoin? Have you ever created or traded assets on Bitcoin, even just to experiment and see what can be done?
Why not?
I just don’t understand..
Why is this development not encouraged and funded?
Is everyone just content to let this market segment slip away to other shitcoins?
Bitcoin dominance is only 40% right now..
Is that OK with you?
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