Don't quote that spammer, I always report them, so their posts gets removed. But now his shitty site is still promoted here by your quotes

I am not really familiar with BitKong. But I had a quick look and this is simply not true. The beauty of "provably fair" is that you can indeed prove yourself whether it is fair or not.

1. The clientseed is made after you get the next serverseed hash with function "generateClientSeed" (in your own browser.) So you generate the clientseed in the browser after you get the next hash (so they are not aware of it before generating a serverseed - which is good!)

2. They combine the server seed and client seed for the end result as explained by their FAQ: https://help.bitkong.com/english/provably-fair-game/how-to-check-positions So they certainly do use the client seed.

Overall it definitely seems provably fair. Although I only had a quick look.



(PS, I have no idea what the "bit bonus thing" is.)

There is no winning strategy with gambling (unless it's a game that includes skill like multiplayer poker or sportsbetting.)

Anyone buying this scam is an idiot.

There is no winning strategy with gambling (unless it's a game that includes skill like multiplayer poker or sportsbetting.)

Anyone buying this scam is an idiot.

The short version would be that it was just an error on my side, fixed now (graphs still need adjustment though.)


I am using eastern time zone (NY.) I actually regret that and have considered switching to UTC many times but I kinda got stuck on it lol. But it's same for all sites so still fine from that perspective. (The JD stats text file was just copied from JD before it was switched to Clam and therefor obviously in UTC.)

Fun fact: last Tuesday my site recorded 25,160 BTC wagered on bustabit.. that is the highest wagered I ever recorded on my site for any site. It is just before Betking's 24,711 BTC wagered back in 2015 (and with exchange rate it's a massive $215M vs $6M in 2015.) All in 1 chart (blue spike = betking, brown spike = primedice, last purple spike is bustabit):



I believe the highest daily BTC wager ever was an insane 1,553,357 BTC on Just-Dice at 29 Sep 2013. However, with an exchange rate of $127, that's $197M. So in dollar-terms Bustabit, with $215M, actually had more wagered last Tuesday than that day on Just-Dice (and therefor most likely most wagered ever on any bitcoin gambling site in dollar value.)

Congrats

My site tracks the stats again since a few days: https://dicesites.com/bustabit Wagered is indeed massive, 8135 BTC on just last Friday. Note: profit on my site is not yet in sync with on-site profit (not sure why, probably need to do some commission recalculation.)

In that case the dilution fee should be much more clear imo. Even if I go to the FAQ through the "Bankroll - Overview" modal, that info is 3 clicks away. It should just be shown on the "Change BR" page (like bustadice.) There might be people now "trying out" that invest feature, not realizing they are charged 10%.


Congrats on the sale and new site

Yes, it's actually exactly the same, so it's nice to see it on a real site (and performance seems fine.)

Only difference I guess is that I said "weekly audit" but instead they "force seed-reset" from user on tipping/withdrawing/etc. but that's same idea (and probably more user-friendly.)

Most are using Bitcoin Core and connect directly with bitcoind's RPC commands: https://bitcoin.org/en/developer-reference#bitcoin-core-apis and notify options. Google a bit more on that and you probably find some ways to do it.

Was added many months ago already :p https://dicesites.com/bitvest https://dicesites.com/bitvest/ltc https://dicesites.com/bitvest/eth

Added yesterday already https://dicesites.com/yolodice/ltc They are all the way down on the frontpage list since wagering just started so still low amount.

I am too lazy to test, but does "read_site_data" API already include LTC data?

Speaking of volume, even though I don't list bustadice on the frontpage of my site (yet - as it's still relatively new compared to others), I actually do track their stats: https://dicesites.com/bustadice

Pretty decent wagered IMO. Relatively few bets though, so more likely "few big gamblers" rather than "many small ones".

Hi,

DiceSites is meant to be an overview of the most popular dice sites that have been around for a decent time. I believe "XWC dice" is still relatively new (compared to the ones I list.) Therefor I cannot add it yet. But if it becomes more popular in the future, I could list it. Good luck with the site

Correct.

The problem with SafeDice is that support (on issues that only admin can handle) can be too slow. There are just too many times a post where someone is waiting for a reply for weeks for a missing deposit etc. I have been following that for a while and afaik the problem is always resolved. So IMO the admin is trustworthy and I personally still have my investments there. But owner really needs to improve support. If you are a gambler and having a problem, it is obviously a terrible experience if you have to wait many days/weeks for a reply. So that's why I temporarily removed SafeDice and I hope to see some kind of long-term improvement.

Note I do still follow stats at https://dicesites.com/safedice and https://dicesites.com/safedice/xmr

AFAIK most bitcoin gambling sites are not yet using segwit (just yolodice, bustadice, betking, ..?) Most are using Bitcoin Core and it's not really ideal to use segwit just yet. But within some months Core 0.16.0 will be released with proper segwit support. I expect most/all bitcoin casinos to enable segwit by that point.

If the bigger companies (coinbase, blockchain.info, etc) use segwit too by that time, the fees could seriously go down a bit again (not cents, but lower than now lol.)

I am also curious to figure out if/how gambling sites can adopt lightning, but haven't been able to properly test LN myself.

Ah, I am not familiar with that. I see they have a fixed return of 4.08% a year (realistically 5% with referral commission.) Overall I am not a huge fan of "guaranteed returns".. but it does seem like they have some payments from mining and their gambling games have relatively high house edges (so relatively nice profit.)


Overall I would never recommend investing bitcoin into anything, including this freebitco.in feature but also any dice site that I list. Simply because there are real risks. Just to emphasize: even any site that I have listed can scam you Only if you understand the risks and can afford any possible loss, then you can consider to do it

Last time I looked they had a relatively high house edge (but acceptable on faucet site IMO) and a provably fair mechanism that could be improved: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=877078.msg16023076#msg16023076

Overall I think freebitco.in is fun for free moneys and maybe trying to gamble that free moneys. But for real gamblers I would suggest other sites :x



I believe the same owner of freebitco.in owns KingDice now, so that is an option (or a site that I have listed .) I actually followed KingDice for a while and kinda like the founder, but then he sold it hehe :p Obviously wetsuit has a long good (afaik) track record with freebitco.in, so nothing against him either If KingDice would be become more popular, I would certainly consider it to be added.

True. I actually update it sometimes though. But currently both the opening post of this thread and the FAQ on crypto-games is outdated too though hehe

Yes, that is how all sites operate They either send it to cold wallet or use the funds for a withdrawal. In the end balance on site is just a database entry on site.