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441  Other / Meta / Re: Ignore threads - user script on: April 28, 2016, 12:33:06 PM
This way you can still see them and reply if it happens to be an interesting thread, but they are easily separated from the "quality threads" that you didn't ignore.
I think you should just hide all the low-quality threads since the posts in these threads pretty much are all craps.

I mean, isn't this
https://i.imgur.com/hFr9RyA.png

Better than this?
https://i.imgur.com/OlG1GrH.png
It depends.. if you really ignore only the worst threads, then you could indeed fully hide it. For me I just hide any "gambling discussion thread" even though 1 in 10 is still interesting (and by not "fully hiding" them, I still have the option to see them.)



But if anyone prefers to fully hide them, change a part of the last line:
Code:
.ignored_topic .newimg{display:none;}
to:
Code:
.ignored_topic{display:none;}
(so just remove the .newimg)

Both Greasemonkey and Tempermonkey should offer you some "Edit" option (by icon or right-click.)
442  Economy / Gambling / Re: Primedice.com | Most Popular & Trusted Bitcoin Game | Huge Community | Free BTC on: April 27, 2016, 12:05:20 PM
Lol nice. I have more than double referred users but I am afraid way way way less commission hehe Sad Tongue
443  Economy / Gambling / Re: Primedice.com | Most Popular & Trusted Bitcoin Game | Huge Community | Free BTC on: April 27, 2016, 08:37:38 AM
PD affiliate system has been decent for me. But it is indeed all about getting lucky enough to refer some bigger players.
444  Local / 中文 (Chinese) / Re: Fun-casino - first decentralized Bitcoin casino. on: April 26, 2016, 04:22:54 PM
Can you please already explain how your site is the first decentralized casino? (or change the OP title)

Please change your title and opening post. You are not by any means "decentralized". You are lying by saying you are decentralized and giving a false sense of trustworthiness. I personally think that is negative-trustworthy.
I am very excited for what the future of bitcoin gambling brings us and I do think decentralized gambling on sidechains or something would be possible at some point. But your site is just a very ordinary casino site with third-party created games. Nothing decentralized.
445  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Service Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: ★ Chain Dice ★The first depends only on luck Bitcoin game ★ The client version ★ on: April 26, 2016, 04:12:12 PM
So you only accept DOGE games?
446  Economy / Gambling / Re: BITDICE.ME - REGISTERED CASINO. 2 YEARS OLD. ETH 💜. 2Y ANNIVERSARY! on: April 26, 2016, 09:57:36 AM
Site down?
447  Other / Meta / Ignore threads - user script on: April 26, 2016, 09:53:15 AM
As someone who is mostly active in the Gambling forum, the extreme spam of signature campaign spammers is really annoying. These guys managed to make almost 1.300 replies to a question "Can gambling be profitable in long term?" while there should be literally only 1 reply with "No, unless it's a skill-influenced P2P game like poker." Almost 1.300 of useless replies is just insane. I believe that separating "Gambling/overview sites" with a new forum "Gambling discussion" would be a good solution, see this topic. But unfortunately this new subforum hasn't been added yet. So I decided to make a simple "Ignore thread" user script.



Ignore threads
After installing, you don't ignore any thread yet. You can can ignore them with a simple + button next to the title in a thread overview (new posts, forum, etc.) You can also unignore them with a - button. This actually doesn't remove a thread from the overview, it just applies the same style as a "Moved" thread. This way you can still see them and reply if it happens to be an interesting thread, but they are easily separated from the "quality threads" that you didn't ignore. There is also an extra link "Ignored threads" where you can edit the whole list (although Chrome has some issue if the list is too big.)

Example - before:
https://i.imgur.com/PxTIBB0.png

After:
https://i.imgur.com/OlG1GrH.png



How to install

Firefox - Install Greasemonkey: https://addons.mozilla.org/firefox/addon/greasemonkey/
Chrome - Install Tampermonkey: https://chrome.google.com/webstore/detail/tampermonkey/dhdgffkkebhmkfjojejmpbldmpobfkfo

Install my user script by clicking this link: https://github.com/NLNicoo/itob/raw/master/itob.user.js (you can check the source too)



Gambling discussion threads
If you want to ignore the "gambling discussion threads" like me, add these threads at the popup after installing:
Code:
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List last updated: April 28, 2016, 01:52:28 AM - you will have to add new threads yourself


448  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Service Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: ★ Chain Dice ★The first depends only on luck Bitcoin game ★ The client version ★ on: April 26, 2016, 05:43:22 AM
Running an .exe file to play some dice game seems like a bad idea.
449  Economy / Gambling / Re: Dice game with a nice user interface like this? on: April 26, 2016, 05:31:18 AM
To me, it seems like that site copied the biggest bitcoin dice site's layout: https://primedice.com (although the colors of PD are light and your example dark.)

You can see a list of other popular dice sites on my site https://dicesites.com (normally PrimeDice is on top there, but they had some issues with their statistics being reset.)
450  Economy / Gambling / Re: Primedice.com | Most Popular & Trusted Bitcoin Game | Huge Community | Free BTC on: April 25, 2016, 05:56:07 AM
Not sure if this is currently a priority... but the wagered stat has been reset Wink (this is why PD is low listed on my site now.)
451  Economy / Exchanges / Re: Did localbitcoins just get hacked? on: April 25, 2016, 03:52:54 AM
Quote
...using multiple methods of Cross Service and Injections I've managed to gain access to their server.
As (hobby but fairly experienced) security researcher that made me laugh.

Obvious fake scam is obvious.
452  Economy / Gambling / Re: DiceSites.com - List of dice sites w/ statistics, graphs & verifiers on: April 22, 2016, 10:41:11 AM
API is enough, just need total bets, total wagered and max profit or payout. All stats should be only from dice.

Note: before I would add your site, stats must be thousands of wagered and ideally like tens of btc wagered every day. To be honest, I don't think your site is very popular in the dice community right now (since you just added it) - even if it's a popular sportsbook - so I highly doubt I would add your site at this moment. Also I much rather see a bit more transparency like a public bet list (which all other sites that I list do have.) Just saying so you don't make the API only to be disappointed hehe Tongue Still I would personally keep track of your site so I can always consider it.
453  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Provably fair dice - real or bulshit ? on: April 22, 2016, 10:07:45 AM
Since one of the inputs is a clientseed (that the site doesn't know when you get the serverseedhash), the future rolls are all random and the site cannot influence it. But after the first bet (or when the site has the clientseed), the site can indeed calculate all future rolls. The site just cannot influence or change them. A hacker could also do this and win all the bets, which is why security is so important for the site owner. Although with the "per roll" method, if the hacker can get the seeds, it's equally dangerous since it already has the clientseed so can calculate the bet result as well.



For the player, the weak point is mostly that "automated verifying" is easier with the "per roll method" (while manually checking or using a verifier is easier with the "nonce method".) Overall the "nonce method" is much better for the player, although I can understand the initial reason to have "per roll" for MP.





edit: another potential disadvantage of the "nonce method", is that all future rolls are already predicted. So let's say you have a bad losing streak so you stop betting and you start to verify your rolls (generate a new serverseed)... it's possible to see what your next bet result would have been. If this would have been a win, you could make yourself pretty crazy Cheesy This obviously isn't really a technical thing though.
454  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Provably fair dice - real or bulshit ? on: April 22, 2016, 08:19:40 AM
what do you mean with " MP apps should help the players by verifying each bet directly after it was made."? is the Bet ID not enough where user can check the outcome?

could you give us a sample MP app who implemented it so we could check and tell our coders to add it?
AFAIK ideal way for MP apps for each bet:

1) Get serverseedhash for next bet, show it to user, save it in browser (localstorage.) Note: if the browser is refreshed, STILL, use that same serverseedhash.
2) Generate a cryptographically-secure random clientseed, example of Ryan: https://gist.github.com/RHavar/a6511dea4d4c41aeb1eb Note: if the browser is refreshed, STILL, use that same clientseed.
3) Allow the player to change the clientseed, if he desires to do so.
4) Player clicks *bet*, you send those seeds to make the bet and get the result/serverseed back.
5) Check if the previously saved serverseedhash matches the hash of the bet result serverseed (in the user's browser)
6) Check if you calculate the same bet result with that serverseed (in the user's browser)

And repeat for next bet. This seems like a big process but is fairly easy to make and the player shouldn't even really notice.

You can see DustDice does this: https://github.com/dustdice/dustdice/blob/master/public/scripts/game-logic/engine.js#L205 This is just after making a bet. It verifies the game and it generates a new client seed.


* You will notice that in the process, the clientseed for each bet is different. That is the best way, but some players like to pick a "lucky clientseed". You could actually combine a random but still saved clientseed, described by Ryan here: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1065847.msg12018096#msg12018096


is there a provably fair option for the user to verify all his bets after his session and not to check after each loss? this is interrupting each players game and not preferable in our opinion
That is the "nonce method" (using the same seeds for 10, 100 or even 1 million bets, but an incremental nonce to make the result different.) This way, you can verify all the bets, since the verifier just uses the incremental nonce too. But MP doesn't use this method.

MP uses the "per roll method" so the verifying has to be after each bet. This makes sense if you want to automatically verify bets since you don't need to request a new serverseed every time. But it only works if MP apps actually implement the verification process Smiley
455  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Provably fair dice - real or bulshit ? on: April 22, 2016, 07:17:00 AM
I think the "normal verifiers" are "good enough".

But an alternative for such automated verifying would be a more simple JS file (potentially as browser extension.) It would have the same risk, but since it won't have a bot, it should be way less lines of code and therefor easier to check for anyone who runs it Smiley





PS, for MoneyPot, I think the apps should make automated verifying in the user's browser. Basically it's MoneyPot who could cheat the players, so the MP apps should help the players by verifying each bet directly after it was made. (And also ensure the client seed is unique for each bet.) I assume some MP apps might do this already, but I never really looked at it.
456  Economy / Gambling / Re: 🎲 DiceSites.com - List of dice sites w/ statistics, graphs & verifiers on: April 22, 2016, 07:00:46 AM
I think you can finally remove dicenow.com, cause practically nobody plays there for months
I soon hope to have some filters including "Popular", "New", "Inactive".. with only "Popular" activated by default. So that would solve this as it would be hidden by default. PS, still "Inactive" and "New" would be fairly limited, not all sites.


Can add Luckybox.cc to the list. They just opened and it is active. Opened less than 12 hours now and Already bet of 0.126btc done.
DiceSites currently is supposed to list only the most popular dice sites. In general I only add sites who have been around 6+ months and have thousands of BTC wagered.


Hello,

Can you add us too please : Bitsler.com 

btc thread : https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1268718.0

Thanks

William
I am still not sure where I can see the total wagered stats of Bitsler, could you link me to that?


Hello.

Just to inform that we also have a provably fair Bitcoin Dice.
www.betbtc.co/casino/dice

We use the same verification method as primedice.
I think you don't have public stats or even public bets.. is that correct? I cannot add any site without this information.
457  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Provably fair dice - real or bulshit ? on: April 22, 2016, 06:43:09 AM
Edit: This look close to what i want, i will check it out, thanks.
Yeh, some things to consider though:

- In theory site could change your bet history. Like "high" instead of "low" for a bet. Or the bet amount (bigger on losing bets - this is something dicebitco.in was claimed to do too.) Or just put fake bets in between while you are betting, but remove those when you generate a new serverseed. All of this is detectable though, especially because most people just want to check that last ~10 bets on which they lost... so you most likely remember how those bets went. But what I mean: in the end a verifier just makes the list of bet results/numbers, it obviously doesn't know the actual winning/losing amounts etc.

In theory the ideal third-party provably fair verifier runs in the browser and saves all the bets you make on the fly and verifies them right away if "per roll method" or after x bets if "nonce method". I believe seuntjies dicebot has something like that already, the only problem is that you will need to run a .exe file or inspect thousands of lines of code. Personally I like seuntjie and his bot has been around for years, but I would still never run a .exe file related to bitcoin gambling :X
458  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Provably fair dice - real or bulshit ? on: April 22, 2016, 06:20:58 AM
Provably fair is only there to check that the result of the roll wasn't tampered with in any way, you can use third party verifiers(mentioned below) to check your rolls and to learn more about how the provably fair works. As far as their making money is concerned, it is the universal truth that in the end the house always wins.

Have a look here:
https://dicesites.com/provably-fair
The above site is good to check the roll of dice on your bet was not tampered with but how many people actually check each bet they make?

I guess you could probably have someone write a bot to record all the hashes that are shown on each bet and run them after play, anything like this already available?
That's why the "nonce method" is so great, because you use the same seeds for x bets. For example BetKing offers a "Click to verify" button after you generate a new serverseed. This links to my site with already all the seeds pre-filled.

So after I made 33 bets, I want to verify all of them, I click the "Generate server seed" button and then "Click to verify" which brings me here:

https://dicesites.com/betking/verifier?ln=32&cs=uFrya5K5HyvjBH5&ssh=FEA42BEC5229729C5A88A5D8069685858BD99EA8479DCD73EA54857DA82DCD82E33D99068146E9CC029B671C8C16BB43C5E8ED7D761DFBBA757AE0341685357D&ss=gM5zrDWBoRT7Mb3Gq2%2FUwo6WBpkLDiMTTs0b%2FVAHSY1ovSxMxBgKAuvEwsuJZEYPUT9OxNRPZkPaz2CN48bI0gE%3D

All you have to do is compare that list of bet results with your BetKing bets. So verifying bets on BetKing literally just takes 1 click (or 2 if you include generating a new serverseed.)
459  Economy / Gambling / Re: 🌟🎲🌟 MoneyPot.com -- Your Trusted Bitcoin Gambling Wallet (Upgraded Speeds!) on: April 21, 2016, 03:42:22 PM
That's the great thing of not owning a gambling site. I can say anything without looking like a jealous competitor Cheesy
460  Economy / Gambling / Re: 🌟🎲🌟 MoneyPot.com -- Your Trusted Bitcoin Gambling Wallet (Upgraded Speeds!) on: April 21, 2016, 03:38:55 PM
Seems obvious to me that this newbie account "gruntt" is an alt account of "site owner Roulexus" (just look at that 10min post difference.. lol.)

Their claim of "manipulating MoneyPot" is obviously bullshit too.. potentially to get players to his shit Untitled Dice copy gambling site.
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