Is the bcash issue fixed yet? I (temporarily) removed SafeDice from my site. I still have my own investments on here and not too worried. But admin should really improve support on such issues I understand delay with limited hot wallets or in this case a hard-fork that needs an updated node, but this is really taking too long. I hope it's solved soon.

Mm.. just when I say "I always list any altcoins".. I am not 100% sure about ICO tokens lol. I guess it is traded on HitBTC and if wager is low it would simply be listed low, so I guess I could add it. Mm will still think about it :X

That is bustabit: https://dicesites.com/bustabit

I actually do track the stats of bustadice: https://dicesites.com/bustadice but it isn't linked/shown anywhere. I basically just want to wait a bit longer like I always do for new sites (although considering RHavar holds 1 key to the multisig cold wallet and controls audit server, I consider the odds of "new site scam" much lower and might add it a slightly earlier than normally :X but still waiting now.. hope they keep good wager volume)

In general, site has to be around for a while and pretty popular. I think most of the dice sites that ended up being a scam were either relatively new (less than a year) or inactive. Although in theory any dice site, including those on my site, can scam of course.

Are there any dice sites (that share bet+wager statistics) that are missing according to you?




For bcash specifically: I always list any altcoins and don't care so much. But it is clear that the bcash proponents only want to "overtake bitcoin" and are trying to confuse newbies by saying it's "the real bitcoin". I think that is essentially fraudulent behavior and I will personally not support that altcoin in any way.

Personally not gonna list stats for bcash games. But SafeDice has it.

I guess it is listing "total bets of those seeds", but because nonce starts at 0, they should deduct 1. So if those were really all your bets, it's a bug on BetKing where "previous nonce" in that modal has to be 1 lower

I currently don't have time to try it out, but if you tell dean about it, I am sure he will look at it

Did fill in 976 as last nonce?

Because your last bet 21735089 was nonce 975. So there never was a bet with nonce 976 and 32.4557 would have been the result of the next bet You could even fill in "1000" as last nonce and see the next 125 bet results.. that's how provably fair with nonce works

My guess is that you made 4 bets on another game first.

Yes, both GridCoin and Stratis are missing, I will add them coming days.

Glad to hear it was resolved.


Completely unrelated: I actually had a bug in my bitsler verifier if a SPACE was used in the client seed. This is fixed now.

The PD FAQ says max win is 30 BTC (so on 2x it's 15 BTC = less than 21 BTC.) Unless FAQ is outdated (which is possible I guess.) Technically SafeDice has a higher max profit but the HE will be 1.7 - 5% on those amounts.


edit: either way, bustadice BR/max profit indeed looks good

Doesn't even reach 10% CPU here lol. Quickly looked in source code and didn't see anything special either.

Rationally we should expect scripts like that on shit sites where the site owner has no other way to earn money from their visitors. A gambling site is quite the opposite of that, so it would not make any sense for them to screw over their visitors like that.

Looks good Some questions:



Who is the "neutral third party" of the cold storage?

Can you still adjust investment amounts without being charged the dilution fee (eg to lower the onsite amount or increase/lower the offsite amount of your investment - I obviously don't mean increasing onsite which is of course charged.)

The audit system sounds a bit like the idea I had 3 years ago, so cool to see that I am just confused to not see the audit hash anywhere and not mentioned in the verifier either. If audit seed is used in game calculation, wouldn't it be needed in verifier too?

No, I personally never logged anything from them.

Correct.

The way I remember it, was that theymos was hoping others could give some feedback on it too. But no one did and it was never implemented :p

The package should still work fine. Although, I think it was also not good against bruteforcing, as it is using the default SMF way which isn't good.

If theymos is still interested in it, I could still add proper anti-2FA-bruteforce in that package and it can still be used :p I guess it kinda depends on when that new forum is finished too :X

edit: actually I see it uses CAPTCHA now on login, so that is actually a way to protect against bruteforcing.

Great to read this, fully agree

Compare it with the bet results you got from the site. Best to read https://dicesites.com/provably-fair if you really want to understand how provably fair works Paragraph under "Verify both steps - the easy way" is about the verifier.

That is actually a pretty smart way to do such promo never even thought of that kind of usage for a verifier lol.

I believe Seuntjie's bot has an in-build verifier, so TBH you wouldn't even need to use another verifier. (not sure if Seuntjie's bot automatically verifies it though?)




Verifying the results is mostly 2 steps:

1. Check if the serverseed HASH is the same compared to the one the verifier generates. This should automatically make a green or red (if wrong) message above the bet results. So this step is pretty easy.

2. Check if the rolls are actually the same as the rolls that you had. This you will have to do manually by simply comparing them with your roll results (for you: excel data.) If you already see a list of bet results, I assume the first roll listed on my site is the last bet you made (and next is second last, etc.)




So I guess understanding the "nonce" idea is important here (also for jamyr ) If you make a bet with a new set of seeds, the nonce starts at either 0 or 1 (depends on which site.) After that, the nonce goes up by 1 after each bet. So if you made 7,983 bets with those seeds and you want to check the last 100 bets, you will probably fill in "7983" as "Last nonce" and then "7883" as Starting nonce. I cannot "guess" how many bets you made, because like Lutpin said, it could be an huge / unlimited amount of bets :p So you will have to fill this in manually.

Normally you can easily see the "last nonce" when you go to "My bets" on a site and click on your last bet that you made with that set of seeds and look for "nonce". Or sometimes the site shows it when you generate a new serverseed. Or it might be in that excel data Seuntjie generates.

Yes, don't use coin.dance, use https://www.xbt.eu instead.

It is not "last 336 blocks", but a "336 blocks lock-in period", if we don't succeed in these 336 blocks, we have to wait for them to finish and try again next 336 blocks, etc.

No, 0% house edge = 0% house edge.

Most bitcoin (dice) games have a 1% house edge. Some even 0.3-0.5%. That is very low already. There is nothing "on top". The casino still has a risk to lose (a lot) of money short-term as variance can be bad (and good for player obviously.) So I think it's fair.

The only way to reasonable have 0% house edge games is if it's player versus player. But generally the entertainment/usability for the player is less that way, so these sites generally don't even get popular despite the 0% edge.


edit: There are some games like blackjack or video poker where the play/skill of the player changes the expected profit. I guess you were talking about that. In that case 0% HE is somewhat possible. Most gambling games (dice, roulette, slots, etc) don't involve "skill" though.

If you load the site it says:

"Max bet profit: 8.00677298 BTC"

So around 8 coins is max profit. You probably could bet 80 coins on 1.1x though (as it's max profit, not max bet.)