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461  Economy / Trading Discussion / Re: Don't Spend Too Much Time Trading? is that true? on: July 30, 2017, 04:44:10 AM
Reality says different story. You have to spend lots of time in trading so that you can understand what you are really trying to achieve. Also you must make mistakes which is the only way of learning as you will know next time what to do and what not to do. So go ahead you don't have to be really awkward about it. 


And surely you will have to change your thinking and trade logically and with full alarming state. No emotions for good trader.



You don't have to trade with hard cash to learn the dos and don'ts of trading. You can formulate strategies on paper and then see how they pan out. That way you will also learn that deviating from your strategy will often result in a crash, thus you will learn that lesson without wasting money.
There are enough "safe" investments that you can park your money in before jumping into the deep waters.
462  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: What is a good investment you can do with BTC? on: July 30, 2017, 04:03:04 AM
Hello everyone!

So lets someone has some bitcoins maybe worth about 100 to 500$. What could be the investment do where the bitcoin holder is quite new to the crypto currency world and want to get guaranteed profit from the investment.

I know that holding bitcoins are good, but what are other good investments you can make with bitcoins?

Would like to know what you guys about this.

Thanks!
i think you should buy some good alt to make double profit from bitcoin and alt, there is a lot of alt have a good future like Litecoin,Veritaseum,Digibyte,Populous...
Don't listen to this guy.  Altcoins will lead you to the poor house quick, and anyone who offers a way to double your bitcoin is looking to steal it through chicanery.

If you're going to buy an altcoin, doesn't it make more sense to just hold bitcoin?  Those other pieces of shit are far riskier, IMO.

There are places you could put it, like online casinos and stuff, but there's nothing better to do with your btc than just hold.  Everyone is going to tell you that.

You could lend it out, but you have to watch out for scammers.  They are as thick as thieves around these parts.
While I do agree with most that you've said, it's patently false that the best way to invest is by just holding BTC. A better strategy would be to keep a majority stake in BTC and then spread a portion of the invested sum over promising projects. That will not only help the ecosystem and some genuinely good projects, but also create more profit in the long run with a comparatively low or no chance whatsoever to lose without BTC losing value.
Sufficient due diligence is required of course, but simply buying one piece of whatever financial instrument is never the right way to go, regardless of whether you are in crypto, in stocks or anywhere else.
463  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: What is a good investment you can do with BTC? on: July 30, 2017, 03:59:40 AM
Hello everyone!

So lets someone has some bitcoins maybe worth about 100 to 500$. What could be the investment do where the bitcoin holder is quite new to the crypto currency world and want to get guaranteed profit from the investment.

I know that holding bitcoins are good, but what are other good investments you can make with bitcoins?

Would like to know what you guys about this.

Thanks!
Hey!

My recommendation would be to park some in AiCoin. They already have a live-trading bot, which is based on Machine Learning algorithms (the stuff that makes cars drive on their own etc.). The trading bot will place trades on the top-performing coins and re-invest parts of the profits into an Investment Pool, from which investments into seed stage start-ups or ICOs in the fields of Blockchain and/or Machine Learning will be made. The latter are longer term investments with potentially massive gains.

This coin is the easiest way to invest in trading and equity without requiring any expertise in finance, mathematics or programming yourself.

I highly recommend that you read through their Whitepaper yourself though, and decide whether or not that investment is for you. Never trust anybody on this forum!
464  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: Alt coins worth buying on: July 30, 2017, 03:41:03 AM
AiCoin and Blocklancer are the most promising ICOs that I could identify currently. Surely there'll be some more, but these two are my favorites right now.

AiCoin is almost guaranteed to succeed and Blocklancer doesn't require any miracles to pop off either.
465  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Speculation (Altcoins) / Re: [POLL] After the Bitcoin correction, which coin will first hit 2X to 3X? on: July 30, 2017, 03:38:11 AM
Monero is already 45.88$ now, there is lot of need for privacy now the feds are making arrests everywhere and they're all related to bitcoin.

Waves should also see 10$+ is just to good and I think people are looking for reputable coins to invest in ICO fever is dying.
ICO fever is just on halt in my opinion. I don't think that ICOs will be stopping anytime soon. A lot of scam or just unsuccessful projects will burn a lot of inexperienced and lazy people, sure. But in the long run ICOs will be the easiest way to gather funds for any kind of venture. They will become more sophisticated, rather than disappearing.
466  Economy / Web Wallets / Re: Question in regards to upcoming fork on: July 30, 2017, 03:33:11 AM
As long as you are the only person with access to the private keys you're fine.

You may want to think about whether or not you want to pull your Bitcoins out (e.g. transfer into Fiat or Alt) or if you want to keep them in though.

It is unclear whether the price of Bitcoin will drop, remain constant or start climbing. There's a chance that BTC+BTCC combined could drop below the current value of BTC. Similarly there is a chance that the combined value of both coins will stay the same or go up after the fork. Most people seem to be "HODL" on the real BTC and dump on the BTCC and if their sentiments are true (and not market manipulation), then the price of BTC would remain stable, while the price of BTCC would quickly drop into oblivion.

I would thus recommend doing your own research on potential price movements and then decide on your own which route you'd like to go.

Generally speaking you are fine as long as you and only you have access to your private keys to your Bitcoin holding wallet though.
467  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Speculation (Altcoins) / Re: Best ICO to invest on: July 30, 2017, 03:27:03 AM
It's not a good time to join ICO's. Almost every single latest ICO's started trading below ICO price. It's better to buy at market if you really want to hold that coin. I think people wait for first week of August, we can see future clear after that. Don't forget that we are in the middle of the summer, money usually flow lesser than other seasons.
This is true, however there are some exception.

AiCoin would be one of them, since the value of the Token is directly tethered to the value of its trading portfolio. Only a fool would sell their coins well beneath the actual value, since the founders will use parts of the proceeds to repurchase a fixed amount of tokens every month at something like 5-15% under the current price. They also have a running product (which outperforms all bots that anybody who is not an expert in ML/Big Data has access to) and have a rigorous legal framework that protects both the company and the token holder.
468  Other / Politics & Society / Re: On the theory of only one god on: July 30, 2017, 03:23:22 AM
I dont believe in the bible because their plot is full of holes that makes me even more confused like the bible said that humans came from adam and eve but science that conducted some research about the matter said that humans came from apes. Seriously how many have died in died all for the sake of this religions, how many countless wars has been in his name? The bible also said that "The world is a dangerous place not because of the people who does evil but the people who does nothing and watch" although not exactly but close enough.
I am not religious whatsoever. However, there is a lot that can be learned from scriptures such as the Bible regardless, as long as you don't take them literally. If you keep in mind the times during which the scriptures were written and consider them as a collection of allegories, you will find a lot of similarities to Philosophy and Science, both ancient and modern alike.
You can find valuable lessons in just about anything if you pay enough attention. And if you don't pay attention, you won't find valuable lessons even in the most rigorously conducted scientific studies.

In my experience, everybody is trying to express the same thing when it comes to "the nature of existence", however, everybody uses a different set of language to convey their ideas. This is largely due to difference in culture, society, politics, education and general upbringing and life experiences.

There is a literally infinite amount of ways in which you can convey one and the same message. In some of these ways you will not even realize that the same message is being conveyed unless you pay very close attention to the fine nuances and understand the background of the writer/speaker.
469  Other / Politics & Society / Re: On the theory of only one god on: July 30, 2017, 03:03:03 AM

I wonder if maybe it had something to do with what the ancients believed in terms of heredity, namely being only masculine in nature: the sperm of a man to be like the "seed" (as in plant seed) sown into the fertile "soil" of a woman's womb, herself only providing nutrition and nurturing and caring but zero essence to the baby in making. This belief has led to the tradition of telling and documenting a tale of virgin birth as well. God needed to be singular and masculine because only he can "create" (pass on his essence). A female (companion) is incapable of passing on anything, unlike the eternal kingly sperm of a godly male. Supremacy is actualized by singularly (contributory factor:100%) being able to pass on your traits.


A female companion very well passes on genes though. And in most myths God created man, thus God would be beyond the concepts of masculinity and femininity or embodies both simultaneously. Breaking the singularity is what would create male and female, or ying and yang from that perspective. If you think about it, without at least an illusion of duality, God wouldn't be able to experience anything other than God.
470  Other / Off-topic / Re: Should I Go To College ??? on: July 30, 2017, 02:59:33 AM
I'm not sure if this has been suggested yet and the thread is too long to check.

But have you considered studying abroad? In Germany the living cost is lower than in the US, and the tuition fees are less than $200 per semester. The education is generally better than what you would get at a US college as well. When I talked to friends who study MINT subjects at US Colleges I was quite shocked to find out how much time they waste on very basic garbage (several semesters) that we take out in around a week or less.

Depending on your field of study I would either go abroad for a degree or forfeit a US-based degree entirely. A lot of tech jobs can be reached by doing Nano-degrees on sites such as Udacity. Those are far cheaper and far better preparations for jobs in the tech industry.


The ideal route would be a degree abroad, supplemented with one or more Nanodegrees. US colleges are definitely overpriced and offer very little value in terms of teaching. Unless money is literally a no-brainer for you, avoid the US at all cost regardless of field of study.
471  Economy / Trading Discussion / Re: Don't Spend Too Much Time Trading? is that true? on: July 30, 2017, 02:48:28 AM
In order for me to be any good trading I have to spend a day or 2 trading before I make my first trade it seems..

Figure out what rhythm the markets are in..
The markets don't really follow any rhythm. Even the slightest change in policy, technology or whatever else can have a huge impact on the markets and throw all your predictions out of the window. That's why it's important to learn how to create a portfolio that won't burn you even if large chunks of it go up in flames.
472  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Is taxation theft? on: July 30, 2017, 02:32:36 AM
Later actions alter past actions.

If you have sex with a girl without her consent it is not rape if you later bring her flowers and offer to take her to a fancy dinner.

Just like taking money from someone without their consent is not theft if later you spend the money well.

This is really sick. Are you from Saudi Arabia? You can't make up for a rape by taking out the victim to a dinner later. Sex without consent is rape, and it must be punishable with the death penalty in addition to torture.
He was obviously illustrating how taxation is criminal and not actually condoning rape... He's saying that taxation without consent is the same as rape and can not be justified by good actions later on.
473  Economy / Trading Discussion / Re: Don't Spend Too Much Time Trading? is that true? on: July 30, 2017, 02:25:51 AM
You should spend little time executing trades. But you can not possibly spend too much time researching and studying trading and trading opportunities. While there is money to be made in short-term trades, that is best left to trading bots.
If you spend more time researching and studying than actually trading, you will be making more profit in the long-term for sure. Your learned skills will also be useful for the rest of your life! So it's better to learn more than to spend too much time trading manually.
474  Bitcoin / Mining support / Re: Looking for an experienced miner on: July 30, 2017, 02:22:37 AM
If you live in Germany or something like that you have almost no chance of GPU mining profitably. You would need to run in the range of 100 miners to get good enough electricity prices, which would cost you around 250-300k Euros in hardware alone. Then you would need to rent out a large enough space, and also need to consider insurance in case your hardware breaks down or gets stolen.

Check out things like BurstCoin, SiaCoin, etc. and calculate if those could make you profit. Electricity is pretty much irrelevant with HDD coins, as already mentioned. But I'm not sure how profitable those currently are. The last time I checked it could take well over a year to get your money back.
475  Bitcoin / Mining support / Re: Two PSUs for 1 Miner? on: July 30, 2017, 02:18:42 AM
I would definitely check out other stores as well. However, there's a chance that high wattage PSUs are unavailable or on back-order still, since there was a massive spike in demand during May and June. The dust is slowly settling since the market has been crashing, but it could still take some time until PSUs are easily available again.
476  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Is betting a good choice for a newbie? on: July 30, 2017, 02:14:22 AM
Only way to earn Bitcoin through gambling reliably is by investing in a Casino's bankroll. The ROI is pretty good as well, since you gain off of the bankroll and the increase in BTC value simultaneously.
Gambling is still a damn lot of fun though, which is also why all the vanity shops in online games make use of random crates. Humans are just wired to love chance games.
It's good but majority of the gamblers does not have enough capital to invest, we know the return is not that fast so if you do not have enough money you will just get discourage. With a little amount we sometimes think of using that amount to gamble although we know the risk is high but it's the best way to grow our money faster.
I guess that's true. I forgot to consider that most people don't have $10,000 lying around to drop into a bankroll without worrying about it, and even that wouldn't make gigantic returns in absolute numbers, although the interest would be enough to live off in some places.
477  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: do you use analysis when play gambling? on: July 30, 2017, 02:07:57 AM
Of course, mate. Analysis is required when gambling. Before playing, you should analyse his psychological state; is he nervous? scared? confident? indifferent? etc...Then in each step he makes, focus on him if he changes his attitudes. If he is confident from the beginning and then starts to lose his confidence, you will find his face pale. That's why you should do your analysis in order to win a game.
Are you talking about making analysis on someone to play poker ?
I think in poker more than just analysis required , but also you need to level up your skills everytime.
You won't win instantly by making any kind analysis , i disagree with the last statement of yours.
That type of analysis is definitely not an instant-win thing, true. It's something that will slowly ramp up your chances of winning over time. If you can get to a point where you earn more than you lose over large stretches of time, then you just need to keep playing. But that's a point that most people will never reach because they never focus on the right things (e.g. how to improve even a tiny bit).
The analysis you make does not really mean will guarantee you a win every time you play, still you need to win in the long run is what you need regardless of the game you played. I do analyze games in sports betting but I did not have a win most of the time but others do, and I believe if you are good enough then for sure slowly you can grow your bankroll because you are smart.
That's exactly what I said. That type of analysis increases your chances of winning over time. There is nothing in the world that will ever guarantee you that you will win every time you play and that isn't needed for making profits either. You just need to win more money than you lose over large numbers of games and you're good to go.
478  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Is betting a good choice for a newbie? on: July 30, 2017, 02:03:59 AM
Only way to earn Bitcoin through gambling reliably is by investing in a Casino's bankroll. The ROI is pretty good as well, since you gain off of the bankroll and the increase in BTC value simultaneously.
Gambling is still a damn lot of fun though, which is also why all the vanity shops in online games make use of random crates. Humans are just wired to love chance games.
479  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Is taxation theft? on: July 30, 2017, 02:01:45 AM
For all you jokers who like taxes. Why not tax 100%? Tax everything. Tax even your mind so that you become a robot to Government, not able to think on your own, because you free will was taxed away.

Cool

I would happily donate tax/money if I knew it was used for good causes, such as keeping the city safe and clean, research of all kinds, education that isn't dreadfully bad and doing more harm than good, etc.
That said, since tax money is being blown for nonsense I'm completely against it in its current state. In my country you end up giving away around 60% of your income (VAT, Corporate and Income tax) if you are self-employed, which is just downright criminal.
I really hope that the Blockchain will create a shadow-economy that will force governments to comply with the wishes of its citizens. Governments could do so much good, but they just don't out of greed. The dumbest part about this whole shitshow is that if governments did actual good, they would be ending up with much more prosperity themselves. But nope, people keep supporting short-sighted morons.
480  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: the easiest way to make a profit from gambling? on: July 30, 2017, 01:51:06 AM
Gambling should play for entertainment.It is not much easy.It is always risky.Try to play responsibly.Hope you will be Profitable.
That's true, gambling is very risky if we are aiming in profit, because for sure we will going to bet again and again. There is no easy way to make profit in gambling. Even if you are already a professional gambler there is still a risk.
Yes this is right, there's no easy way to earn money using the gambling. Even the winner of the lottery it bet many times before they hit the jackpot, after that, it is not easy also to manage the money. The money from easy way can easy to consume, I'm sure the other money was used in non-sense things like gambling. And who win allot of money has a big problem because if you think he/she are focus on gambling, there's no time for the family. Even you always win allot of money at the end it will back to zero.
Getting money "easily" doesn't mean you'll blow it. It just so happens that most people who hope to make a fortune from gambling also hope that everything will easy-sailing on its own without them expending any effort. That is the type of person that will fall face-down into the dirt no matter how much fortune rains down on them.
On the other hand, a person that always looks for small ways to improve themselves will likely be fine even if a stranger walked up to them and handed a few millions over.

The biggest issue is, that nobody is ever taught what money is and how to manage it and only very few people actually go out and learn about this themselves. That is why there is a 1% and a 99%.
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