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1321  Local / Altcoins (Deutsch) / Re: NXT, NXTL, NEM, Ethereum, Counterparty, eMunie wer startet am meisten durch? on: May 29, 2014, 12:41:36 PM
Wie gesagt, suche neue Coins mit Konzepten die neu sind.
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=629485.0
1322  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: rpietila Altcoin Observer on: May 29, 2014, 12:21:57 PM
You're not wrong.  The spinoff idea as a way to give "free stuff" to existing Bitcoin holders is fundamentally broken since it just rewards laziness and stifles innovation.  The market doesn't and won't accept that model.
This.
1323  Local / Altcoins (Deutsch) / Re: [Sammlung] CryptoNote - BCN, MRO, FTM, QCN, ... on: May 29, 2014, 11:30:02 AM
29. Mai: FAQ und Infografiken ergänzt
1324  Local / Off-Topic (Deutsch) / Re: [B] Gruppenkauf: BTC-Calculator mit Exponentialfunktion (!!!) [*WIEDER OFFEN *] on: May 29, 2014, 09:49:04 AM
Ich schlage zur Lösung der aktuellen Probleme und Unstimmingkeiten die Bildung eines 100-köpfigen Experten-Beirates unter Leitung von Ronald Pofalla vor.
1325  Local / Altcoins (Deutsch) / Re: Darkcoin Kursverlauf on: May 29, 2014, 09:32:36 AM
Gib uns doch mal Gründe. Warum ist XC gestern Nacht eingebrochen?
1326  Local / Treffen / Re: Leipziger Bitcoin-Stammtisch (Jeden DRITTEN Donnerstag im Monat) on: May 29, 2014, 05:58:52 AM
Ja, cool.
1327  Local / Altcoins (Deutsch) / [Sammlung] CryptoNote - BCN, MRO, FTM, QCN, ... on: May 28, 2014, 11:40:01 PM
Homepage
https://cryptonote.org/

Whitepaper
https://cryptonote.org/whitepaper.pdf

Features
--> Untraceable payments
--> Unlinkable transactions
--> Double-spending proof
--> Blockchain analysis resistance
--> Egalitarian proof of work
--> Adaptive parameters

Exchange (BCN, MRO)
https://cryptonote.exchange.to/

Forum
https://forum.cryptonote.org/


What is CryptoNote?

CryptoNote is the technology that allows creation of privacy-centric cryptocurrencies. You can visit their website here. The level of anonymity provided by CryptoNote isn't possible with Bitcoin code base by design. Bytecoin (BCN) was the first cryptocurrency to use CryptoNote and MRO is based on BCN's code.

Two of the main features of CryptoNote are ring signatures that mask sender identities by mixing and unlinkable transactions accomplished by creating one-time keys for individual payments. Their combined effect gives a high degree of anonymity without any extra effort on the part of the user.

Unlike Bitcoin, your funds are not held in the address you give out to others. Instead, every time you receive a payment it goes to an unlinkable address generated with random numbers. When you decide to spend the funds in that one-time address, the amount will be broken down and the components will be indistinguishable from identical outputs in the blockchain.

For example if 556.44 MRO are sent, the protocol will break it down into 500 + 50 + 6 + 0.4 + 0.04 and a ring signature will be performed with other 500's, 50's, 6's, 0.4's, and 0.04's in the blockchain. Unlike the "CoinJoin" mixing method, CryptoNote mixes outputs not transactions. This means no other senders need to be participating with you at the same time or with the same amounts. Any arbitrary amount sent at any time can always be rendered fundamentally indistinguishable (a mathematical proof is given in the white paper).

Ring signatures are explained below. Reproduced from CryptoNote:

A normal signature looks like this. There's only one participant, which allows one-to-one mapping.




A ring signature obscures identities because it only proves that a signer belongs to a group.




This allows a high level of anonymity in cryptocurrency transactions. You can think of it as decentralized and trustless mixing.




How does this compare to other anonymous solutions?

Ring signatures originate from the work of Rivest et al. in 2001 and the implementation in CryptoNote relies in particular on Fujisaki and Suzuki's work on traceable ring signatures. There are two other anonymity implementations currently available or in development. One is ZeroCoin/ZeroCash's use of zero-knowledge proofs. The others are based on gmaxwell's CoinJoin idea (such as mixing services for Bitcoin or the altcoin Darkcoin).

1. Comparison with ZeroCoin and ZKP-based approaches:

You can read about ZeroCoin and zero-knowledge proofs (ZKP) here. The ZK environment allows an anonymity set that includes everyone in the network because the validity of an output can be proven without knowing the corresponding public key until it is spent. The largest risk is that this is recent research-level cryptography that hasn't been subjected to years of cryptanalysis, so exploits may emerge down the road. Ring signatures are much simpler and more mature, with many peer-reviewed papers published over more than a decade.

Other issues with ZKP include the RSA private key used to initiate the accumulator, which must be trusted to be destroyed by the generating party. It also obscures the entire economy, not just sender/receiver identities. If the ZK system is compromised, then an attacker can continuously spend coins that don't exist using false proofs. This damage is hidden from everybody due to total blinding and consequently at any given time it's not possible to know if the network has already been compromised. There is a tradeoff between these inherent risks and the maximal anonymity set provided by ZKP. CryptoNote aims for a different balance through the dual layers of privacy provided by one-time keys and ring signatures.

2. Comparison with CoinJoin-based approaches:

MRO is more qualitatively similar to mixing implementations like CoinJoin. The differences arise in the departure from the Bitcoin protocol, which allows MRO to use new cryptography to provide decentralized and trustless mixing of superior quality. The critical problem with mixing services is the need to trust the operators. As an example, blockchain.info's mixer gives the following disclaimer: "However if the server was compromised or under subpoena it could be force to keep logs. If this were to happen although you haven't gained any privacy you haven't lost any either."

The CoinJoin-inspired Darkcoin performs mixing with selected "masternodes" since it still uses ordinary signatures that can be mapped one-to-one. The motivation is that a randomly selected node is less likely than a single service to exhibit bad faith (such as keeping logs) . In practice, a few VPS companies host the vast majority of nodes and this approach relies on the integrity and good behavior of these nodes. MRO's more fundamental cryptographic approach doesn't have these vulnerabilities and the quality of anonymity is much higher.

MRO's ring signatures are also far more secure and convenient than CoinJoin because they mix outputs not transactions. This means a transaction doesn't involve waiting around for other senders to mix with. Nor is a user restricted to mixing only if others are sending the same amount. Arbitrary amounts can be sent at any time without anyone else's participation. This feature makes a timing analysis of the blockchain useless. The degree of anonymity is also a choice rather than decided by the protocol: do you want to be hidden as one among five or one among fifty? The size of the signature grows linearly as O(n+1) with the ambiguity so greater anonymity is paid for with higher fees to miners.


Overview of a transaction

Bob decides to spend an output, which was sent to the one-time public key. He needs Extra (1), TxOutNumber (2), and his Account private key (3) to recover his one-time private key (4).

When sending a transaction to Carol, Bob generates its Extra value by random (5). He uses Extra (6), TxOutNumber (7) and Carol's Account public key (8) to get her Output public key (9).

In the input Bob hides the link to his output among the foreign keys (10). To prevent double-spending he also packs the Key image, derived from his One-time private key (11).

Finally, Bob signs the transaction, using his One-time private key (12), all the public keys (13) and Key Image (14). He appends the resulting Ring Signature to the end of the transaction (15).



wichtige Wiki-Links
CryptoNote: https://en.bitcoin.it/wiki/CryptoNote
Bytecoin: https://en.bitcoin.it/wiki/Bytecoin
Mining-Algo CryptoNight: https://en.bitcoin.it/wiki/CryptoNight
...

Liste cryptonote-basierten Coins
- Bytecoin (BCN)
- Monero (MRO) [ehemals Bitmonero BMR)]
- Fantomcoin (FTM)
- Quazarcoin (QCN)
- Mountaincoin? (Huh)
- Poolberry (Huh) - https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=577267.0

wichtige Infos zu einzelnen crypnote-basierten Coins
Monero
- aktive Kooperation mit dem I2P-Anonymisierungsnetzwerk,
siehe: https://geti2p.net/de/blog/post/2014/05/25/Monero-partnership


tbc

Let's go!

Bitte Infos/Links, etc. ergänzen. OP wird fortwährend ausgebaut.


Es darf frei über die revolutionäre neue Coin-Plattform diskutiert werden.
Bevorzugt Tech-Themen als Kurs-Verläufe. Wink

Begründet eure Aussagen! Versucht hochwertige Beiträge zu schreiben!
1328  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: rpietila Altcoin Observer on: May 28, 2014, 07:47:39 PM
I'm not following wolong since the doge & unobtainium days... where is he writing that stuff about drk and xc? I haven't seen something mentioned in either thread (and I read ~90-95% of the posts).
All Wolong-quotes are from public and private Pump-and-Dump IRC channels on Freenode (IRC Network). Like #marketmakers or where ever the P-and-D crowd chills now.

Wolong has no forum accounts, website, twitter or facebook. Wink
1329  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: rpietila Altcoin Observer on: May 28, 2014, 07:43:44 PM
r0ach: Do any of the XC privacy features actually work?
1330  Local / Altcoins (Deutsch) / Re: DARKCOIN - erste und einzige vollständig anonyme Cryptocurrency! on: May 28, 2014, 06:12:33 PM
Das Schiff sinkt nicht. Es geht in eine Abschuss/Launching-Position um zu starten, denn es fliegt gleich zum Mond. Wink
1331  Local / Altcoins (Deutsch) / Re: NXTL: Next Coin Lite - deutsche Fassung - Faire Verteilung on: May 28, 2014, 06:06:35 PM
Das macht gerade keinen guten ersten Eindruck auf mich. Zeitweise dachte ich, NXTL hätte das Zeug um mit NEM gleich zu ziehen. Mittlerweile bin ich eher davon überzeugt, dass NXTL weit hinten den Erwartungen aller zurück hängen wird.
 Sad
Versuch mal Deine Meinungen irgendwie zu begründen. Niemand lernt was aus Deinem Posting.

http://www.agentur-vivace.de/wp-content/uploads/6W-Fragen-in-der-PR.jpg
1332  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN][DRK] DarkCoin | First Anonymous Coin | First X11 | First DGW | ASIC Resistant on: May 28, 2014, 12:28:26 PM
HELP EVAN BUILD A DEV TEAM
1333  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: rpietila Altcoin Observer on: May 28, 2014, 12:23:41 PM
I care 0 % about Wolong. Fuck him. I care about good innovative tech in coins or good coin/community management.
1334  Local / Trading und Spekulation / Re: Der Aktuelle Kursverlauf on: May 28, 2014, 11:55:09 AM
kneim: Ich meinte jetzt schon bezogen auf den Kurs, statt auf mich persönlich. Wink
1335  Local / Altcoins (Deutsch) / Re: NXT, NXTL, NEM, Ethereum, Counterparty, eMunie wer startet am meisten durch? on: May 28, 2014, 11:51:35 AM
Ich habe in irgend einem Thread eine lange Liste gesehen mit Projekten die für NXT in Arbeit sind. Die fand ich sehr beeindruckend. Wenn ich die finde, poste ich die nochmal hier. Da waren echte Kracher (z.B. offener Marktplatz ala eBay/Silk Road direkt im Client) dabei.

Deshalb hat mich NXT wieder interessiert und ich hab in dem NXT-Thread nach dem Transfer-Volumen gefragt, was dann wieder so niedrig war (eben die 1200 am Tag), dass ich mich gewundert habe.
1336  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN][BMR] Bitmonero - a new coin based on CryptoNote technology - LAUNCHED on: May 28, 2014, 11:37:32 AM
Monero = BitMonero?
1337  Local / Trading und Spekulation / Re: Der Aktuelle Kursverlauf on: May 28, 2014, 11:16:14 AM
Langweile ist back, at least bei mir.
1338  Local / Altcoins (Deutsch) / Re: [BCN] Bytecoin (CPU - Mining, echte Anonymität) on: May 28, 2014, 12:07:37 AM
Bump.
1339  Local / Altcoins (Deutsch) / Re: Darkcoin Kursverlauf on: May 27, 2014, 06:04:48 PM
Statement von Evan ist Bombe.

1.) der nächste MasterNode-Versuch ist/wird kein Hardfork sein
2.) er hat direkt  meinen öffentlichen Vorschlag von heute früh aufgegriffen ein Team zu bilden




1340  Local / Trading und Spekulation / Re: Der Aktuelle Kursverlauf on: May 27, 2014, 05:21:55 PM
Das sind die Blöcke. kneim verpeilt irgendwas oder schaut irgendwo, wo die Blöcke nicht sichtbar sind.
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