Ist ja nicht auch so, dass zB. einige Poster hier im Thread, scheinbar total das Interesse an Bitcoin allgemein verloren haben und sich nur noch über entgangenen erwartete Gewinne beschweren, weil der Kurs nicht mehr steigt ("ich bin sehr enttäuscht") ...

Und das Gelaber hier immer von "Bitcoin ist aktuell unterbewertet" oder Blase hier und Blase da. Ist doch alles großer Unsinn. Da zur Zeit niemand eine faire Bewertung des Bitcoins berechnen kann, weil keine validen Bewertungsmodelle bekannt sind, kann man solche Aussagen doch gar nicht treffen.
Ist doch lächerlich, "unterbewertet" bla bla, ja was denn? Unterbewertet anhand welchen Kennzahlen oder Datenbasis denn bitte?

Noch besser, seit den letzten paar Tagen, weiss keiner mehr so los ist, es geht nicht aufwärts, also kramt man ein Jahr alte Fakten nochmal vorher, nennt es "neue MtGox-Theory" und es wird abstrus lospalavert. Als ob nicht a) das Vergangenheit ist, mit Null-Modelll-Charakter, b) dieser Überlegungen seit Monaten bei allen Marktteilnehmer eingepreist wird und c) schon die Frage [1] sich eben 100% heute nicht mehr klären lässt und d) selbst wenn man dies könnte, was wären denn dies Lessons Learned daraus, wenn man beweisen dass "Blasen 1 & 2" rein MtGOx-getrieben waren? Was wäre da jetzt Erkenntnisgewinn?

[1] = Hypothese: sogenannten "Blasen" 1 und 2 waren rein MtGOx-getrieben und so vollständig manipulativ

It's pretty obvious for everybody, by just looking in tech-history or applying scientific methods and instruments (network effects, brand knowledge hype, importance and volume of DM E-Commerce on TOR, ...), that the leading DarkMarket coin will be also leading privacy-coin for legal trades.

Any efforts that introduces an distinction of usage in wanted [legal] and not (so much) wanted usage [non 100% legal], by is excluding, discouring DM usage is flawed and will surely harm masssively or kill the project longterm.
There is only one avaible free market segment to conquer: its becoming "the leading anon cryptocurreny". The are no "two different" markets, with different user communities and people,  with one searching a good coin for legal trades only and the other searching a coin to pay securely on illegal DarkNet trades.
A coin is needed and will win this battles that is well performing and is secure in both (legal and non-legal).

Clear Example:
Like there is only one leading File-Encrypting-Software with TrueCrypt. TC is used for illegal and legal activities. There is no software focussing legal usage of file encryption & another one focussing illegal usage of file encryption. It's just one project dominated the whole market segmnet.

Like there is only one leading Mail-Encrypting-Standard with PGP. PGP is used for illegal and legal activities. There is no mail encrytions solutions focussing legal usage & another one focussing illegal usage of mail encryption. It's just one standard dominated the whole same market segmnet.

Software tools for hackers and pentesters arent defined in legal usage and non-legal usage. There is only nmap to scan hosts and not one (legal) nmap for pentesters and another nmap project for hackers to use in illegal activity.
There is only one Metasploit framework for legal (pentesters, devs) and illegal users (hackers, cybercrime users). No distinction.
Or look at leading messenger encryption, its being OTR used 90% users that encryptions chat. There is no chat encryptin for legal talks and another for crime related chat. Just one.


For me, it's evident and logically that leading anon-coin (biggest project, best community, etc.) for legal usage is the same coin, that is leading on DarkMarkets.

Also DarkMarket volume is very, very big and only grows. Buying weed on TOR is mainstream, like illegal downloading with torrents,  CP on TOR, clearnet web-based illegal streaming sites, warez-software-downloads sites, etc. This is stuff that wont go away. DM trading will get bigger and more professional.
I would guess that people, who need the coin to pay on DarkMarkets are 4 or 5 times as many as the people needing an anon-coin just personal privacy reasons/interessts.
If you talk RL bitcoin sellers in big cities, they always said that 80% or more of the people who bought Bitcoins from them, wanted to buy drugs on DM.



I would suggest, if you live in a country that put you in jail for developing software that's used in DarkMarket E-Commerce, then don't talk about DarkMarket-stuff in public.
There are core-devs who can talk about it, because they live in free countries or they are anon.

Dont do these strange, implausible and overcorrect statements of disapproving, any software-usage you cant talk about.

Obvious most discussion and information exchange about operating serious Dark Markets is private.
But what can be offered as "proof" or source:

See related discussions on http://thehub7dnl5nmcz5.onion (biggest and most influential public forum for DM operators, security auditors, pro vendors etc.)

deepdotweb.com is biggest dark market news outlet (most readers) and run by well known core dark market community members, it has 7 articles that recognize, introduce or rate Monero (i think 4 of 7 are very positve, 2 only good, 1 neutral, no negative writings about Monero there, but they clearly critize other bad anon coins and proposals), also only positive statements about Monero in the active comments sections,which are also influencing the readers)

There are a some general well known cryptocurrency experts, which have a very big pull and big influential in the security related decisions in the DM scene, these are Gregory Maxwell, Adam Beck and Krytopher Atlas, who all reviewed Monero and gave positives statements (non related to darkmarkets) about the project/implementation/goals.

Then there is a small number of only the DarkMarket scene known widely influential experts, mostly people, who do security audits and DarkMarket software and technology since years, for example Gwern  (gwern.net) and mdparity (Black Bank dev and operation & other DM software dev work, e.g. multisig escrow tools for sites and vendors) with had gave positives statements about CryptoNote in general and Monero in special. (I wont search URLs now, there is e.g. https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=8238133 where discussed problems in bytecoin, but see none in Monero, i just dont have the time for this, as you know most public darkmarket/TOR related content isnt indexed by google (classic robots.txt: disallow *)
- i dont make this up, you can and will find these postings/statement on public sources "The Hub Forums", https://reddit.com/r/DarkNetMarkets/, /r/themarketplace, other DarkMarket related sub-reddits or other related subreddits /r/crypto, /r/onions)

- Gwern can easily be asked about his opinion about Moneros pontential DM use, he has an board account:
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=4750

- i can personally vouch for one well known german dev, operator and (part-) owner of multiple big DM projects (currently owning 100% of one of the 10 biggest DMs and having a 25% stake in two of the 10 biggest DMs), that i happen to know from old hacking-related meetups in the 90ties, that when ready and reasonable, he will be rolling out XMR support on his markets, because he is an Monero-supporter and CN-believer

You would need some knowledge and background about Dark Market scene to understand who is influential and important. You would have to read alot of clearnet or TOR-only related information sources to get the full overview what the important people think or belive in (very distributed, many general subreddits, every DM has its own webboard or subreddit), where important people like the site admins, well known auditors (see above) or big vendors post about their opinions.

I give u some more, I cant talk public about in chat.

To clearify:
Monero and any other coin will only be added at an big, leading darkmarkets, if it really adds real world, really demanded benefits to the DarkMarkets special ecosystem and its operating security, while staying easyly enough to use.
If this hard work can be done and Monero reaches an status, where its by experts and user community considered to best coin for DarkMarket usage:
then from my POV, it can be said for 100% Monero won't fail because, 50% of the big DM admins stay with bitcoin and 50% support Darkcoin or whatever, and so it cant reach the needed network effects and volumina to stay vivid and relevant in DM trade,
which endangerous the whole project, by also cutting 99% of the chances to become the leading privacy coin for legal usage. (because leading DM coin will be the same coin, as the leading one in the "legal usage" sector)

Because Monero is still being developed. Correctly, as of today, all serious darknets are operating (trustless) multi-sig-escrow-process, so they require Cryptocurrencies with good proven MS escrow features/process, which is a feature that isn't built today in Monero.

As assured before (by Monero community members with good connections and knowledge in DM operating scene), when both sides are ready Monero project (with software and ecosystem) and DM scene is ready (admins: with building trust in Moneros stability, hopefully chosing cryptonote technology as the prefered privacy coin, users/vendors: getting to know about Monero, learning Monero-usage incl. the multi-sig-escrow process, building trust, having easy access to Monero via exchangers, enough secure cashout possibilites are established) there will be big, leading Darkmarkets that will list Monero.
(Not all big ones from the start, but 40% up to 60% of the big ones like 3 out of 5, could be reached.)

But it will take around 12 months. Also remember it's a big, big step and major game changer for the whole DM community, they all (users, admin and vendors) have to reach an agreements about which anon coin to support. They are all depending on each other.

Drugs users and vendors are heavily using themselves and dont have much computer skills.
---> usability and simpleness of use for CC clients and tools (like scripts helping vendors and admins in management of there multi-sig-escrow-proccesses), will have a strong influence which what is becoming the preferred solution


Dont be fooled by the fact that some unknown market with nearly zero users and no non scamming vendors may be testing Darkcoin (in order to create some hype for its market or at least get traffic from dark community), or Coin123-supporters are using an public darkmarket script like Bit-Wasp and change it to their coin and setting up another DM no one knows, wants and which has by design zero future.
Or desperated marketeers of weak anon coins, will donate bribe to desperated admins of very small, unrelevant DM markets that generates zero incoming, so they halfheartedly implement their coin as marketing gag (and in most cases the DM is gone 6 weeks later anyway or the cashin feature of the coin that paid the bribe is deactived for various reasons, like being buggy/unstabil, no demand, bad desgined, ...).

Don't worry, there is no other anon coin with a better position in this battle to succeed Bitcoin as preferred DarkMarket coin and Monero already has a very good standing/reputation in the mind of important and influental in the DM scene.

But still, there is a long way to go. And alot of work to do. Everybody should contribute as much as possible, of whatever he can offer that helps the project, not only code and donated coins, but also man power and free working time, for executing the many open tasks or to be developed services and solutions Monero needs.

I would like to ask the people, who posted math- and statistic-based models or proofs which showed as clear outcome or resulted to the thesis, that Monero has a significant, long-term botmining-problem, that is harming the ecosystem und ecology development in for e.g. price.

Are you seeing, general problems, that all CPU-minable or maybe all CryptoNote-based coins share? (no specific Monero design related reasons)

Or you see a problem, that is inherent from Moneros coin setup restrictions (esp. distribution, mining setup, etc.). Meaning, it's a specific problem only Monero has in this strength.

Wobei genau Paycoin, eben besonders diskutabel ist weil,

a) sehr professionell umgesetzt ist (teure Domain, gekaufte Coindesk-Artikel, eigene Letstalkabout-Bitcoin-Folge (größter Bitcoin Podcasts), Suggestion von Glaubwürdigkeit durch Verwendung/Assoziation mit guten Image und seriösen Background, bis dahin (GAW Miners) und eben
b) extrem erfolgreich (ich hab es nicht nachgerechnet oder genau geprüft), aber guter Multi-Million-$$$-Gewinn scheint sicher, schaut man nur auf die täglichen Trading-Volumina

Falls es gelingt einen Großteil der gegen preminte Paycoins exchangten BTCs auszucashen, ohne verhaftet zu werden oder alles zu verlieren, durch gefreezte Crypto-Currency Accounts und Bankkonten, Cashout. Gelingt aber vermutlich aufgrund der offensichtlichen hohen Professionalität und bis jetzt perfekten Umsetzung für ein Scam-Projekt.

I dont think Botnet mining will stay a big danger, in the long term.

Only the very worst botmasters, really choose to install crypto currency miners on their victim machines.
There are several other sources of income, like DDoS attacks, theft of confidential information, spam, phishing, SEO spam, click fraud and distribution of adware and malicious programs that are paying better in total and have better risk/reward-ratio mining.

Have a short look at:
http://old.securelist.com/en/analysis/204792068/The_economics_of_Botnets?print_mode=1
http://krebsonsecurity.com/2012/10/the-scrap-value-of-a-hacked-pc-revisited/
https://www.iseclab.org/papers/cutwail-LEET11.pdf
http://arxiv.org/pdf/1309.0522v1.pdf


Besides making way more money with other streams of generated income (with less work).
What are other reasons why is mining a bad choice to monetize your botnet?

- the big, permanent full CPU usage even noobs will notice (and raise infection concerns or lead to OS reinstall, buying new PC, bad because new install is not infected)

- the introduced new CPU usage from mining could harm other services or tools you run on the victims (that are not usable with new permanent usage load, like webcam spying, RDP usage on victim, ...)

- cooling problems

- it often slows the victims computer to strongly to be able to do general computer work

- antivirus software is actively searching for findings (files, traffic or process activites) are related to mining (adds big unessacry AV detection risk)

- risk of victims provider or mining pool admin noticing the botnet mining and informing the victim

- u cant run out-of-the-box mining software, because you need encrypt the well known binaries (obfuscate it so much) so you dont get dectected by AV software (i think with most working crypters that make your suspious binaries undetected by AV you lose at least factor 4 in performance vs. unencrypted standard mining software)

- botmasters want to automatization as much so possible, a mining operation on the big botnet is to much work (selling the coins, switching pools, avoiding bans by pools, advoiding frozen exchange  accounts, finding correct time to sell the CC, updating mining software encryption, optimizing whats possible for you, choosing the right hype coin, which change often, ...)

- bad footprint on the mining network: because your clients arent using specific hardware options regular miners would turn on for there mining client (because you have to roll out a general setup that works everywhere)

- bad footprint on the mining network: you dont have the same hardware power as the general legitime CPU miners in average per machine,
the majority of botnet-member have old, slow hardware vs. the global average of deployed CPU - because the majority of botnet-members are old computers with old hardware (win 2000, win xp, vista) and in a typical botnet the majority of install are in poor underdeveloped countries (china, india, brasil, poor regions of turkey, ....) -> no money -> no fast pc
(another factor why alot installs are in poor countries because people use pirated windows the cant update -> security holes stay open forever)

- crypting is expensive; adding a miner to your current intalled malware will encrease monthly crypting costs (can be big jump, if u for example are currently reencrypt your malware every 7 days to stay undected and now with an added cryptocurrency miner you need now to encrypt daily, -> 7x your current crypting-costs)

- costs of changing your crypting-setup (establishing are working configuration & testing),
in most cases with more re-encrypts you need to invest in more botnet-infostructure, more C&C-servers to handle the increased work load (doing more encryption, serving it) and new proxy-server to roll out the new crypts (because increased traffics, avoid IDS dections by to often using the same proxies, which were enough, when there were old longer crypting-setup with with less routinly connections) needed with the new demands

- maybe your subscribed favourite crypting-service or software solutions doesnt even offer the possibility of your new encryption demand (alot have unchangable rules like: "re-encrypt only ever 72 h" or stuff like "only 4 re-encrypts per month")

- added of work managing thousands of different mining pools accounts or setting & running your own pool

- there are some AV-industry & IT-Security-people that actively fight mining botnet, because they want to support CryptoCurrency in general or a specific coin they support) a significant increased risk losing your whole botnet, vs. the small added benefits of adding mining software

- over 90% of botnet-members are multi-infected with typically being member from average 3 botnets and bad unpatched PCs that are members 7 or more botnets
---> mining cant get popular as income stream for botnets, because the victim has one CPU but alot of infections  



I think you get idea why long running mining operation in big botnets are very unlikely.

--> there always will be kids that are new to boting scene, that fool around and may run mining on their new SMALL botnet for 4 weeks or maybe 3 months before removing mining from there setup or giving up botting for various reasons (botnet get sold to serious operator or becomes inactive/be turned off)

--> no serious botnet-operation (the ones running the huge ones) will pick up mining because its endangeres their whole botnet, often being an $$$$$$$$$$-business they depent on and have certain responsabilites to third cybercrime partys they do business with

The result
In an scenario with Monero mainstream adoption they legitime miners will strongly outnumber the number botnet miners in the network.
Because the number of botnet miners is strongly limited by the fact that only small, new botnets with newb botmasters (kids) will mining clients on their victims computers for a small very limited amount of time.
(Also see, not all botnet miners will mine Monero, AFAIK the most profitable CPU-mineable coins often changes and is on alot of days not Monero)

Big text. I hope I did add some useful information to thread.

I think this posting by Coblee: “Litecoin Does Not Need Development Right Now” will go down in history final turning point and starting date of LTCs last phase of life, leading to complete project failure and price < 1Ct.  

Even now, well known hardcore Litecoiners for the first time don't believe Coblee anymore, they doubt the statement and think its wrong and questioned it in public.
(People that always until this point took als words from Coblee as "undoubtedly messages from god" and NEVER questioned a word he said before and always frenetic defended other controverse statements by Coblee before.)

rpietila: Thank you for your great postings and work. You are really outstanding. IHMO, you should really receive some gratitudes as recognition.

As I dont know you personally and you are much richer than me. I can only offer this post today. Thanks a million.

But I can promise you, to buy you some beers and pizza at one the upcoming Monero meetups in the future (we both visit).

Everybody should use rpietila as a role model and be aiming to reach the same level of posting quality.

From my point of view:

There seem to be, some well known to be wealthy posters and some boards accounts that always suggested they are rich and own super many Bitcoins, that claim they support Monero fully and saying they (seriously) want the project to succeed.
But they dont give the buying support, that is expected after such statements.
Even in very crucial market situations, where are little could help the coin/price alot.

This make me wonder why? Consindering
-  the history (not so long ago), and remember what big amounts of support well known altcoins (e.g. LTC, Doge, Quark) and really bad ones got.
- Are just the sheer number of people claiming to support Monero.
- and XMRs low price (where the needed stakes to support where alot of cheaper vs. coins who got support)



Question remains, if Monero is special in not receiving buying support or are "the old days" of making supports buys for the altcoins you like are over.

These are problems of human nature (risk taking), innovation distribution, the social order and economic system in general. This is not Monero related. (And most of it, isnt even that bad, as it first seems.)

Moneros distribution and whole launch is very fair. (What can't be said about most other coins.)

One thing alot of people forget or didn't notice. Monero is also superior vs. other coins, if u judge and rate soft factors, that make e.g. open source projects in general and cryptocurrency projects particular successful/sustainable/efficient/... or proven to be important and influential in management of successful (corporate) businesses.

From my expierence this even more valuable and a long-term strength, then (the much talked about) very good quantifiable, fundamental characteristics of Monero (hard factors).
(Remember, later arising problems, from then non ideal hard factors, can always be mitaged and dealt with as best possible with Moneros community, that is above average skilled and has great dev- and man-power.)

In other words
The skill-level and quality of Moneros core team and whole community is so very good and now provenly productive, that it's sure assumption, besides whatever happens or changes now & in future, they will build a very good, solid, useful product/coin.
(as sure as project predictions can maximal be)

This is an important fact that alot of people forget.Mostly because they didnt do intensive research on Monero, didn't came in contact with Monero community, just rate coins via their own classic favorite (bad) metrics or are fully uninformed about success factors in (project) managment, organization and operation.
That's why they often don't understand, why Monero is judged so understanding good and its community members are so confident and enthusiastic.

This is even positive, this keeps alot of unintelligent, uninformed people away. Because they prefer the latest, most shiniest and trendiest scam-coin/alt-coin, in their hope of finding their rocket to the moon.
Mainstream attention and over-hype could and would more harm then benefit Monero today.

Empfehlungen zur Verbesserung des Diskussionsniveaus

Es kann ja alles diskutiert werden, auch eben das Handeln (Swing-Trading, "Investments") von offensichtlich schlecht designten & entwickelten, nicht dauerhaft überlebensfähigen und/oder nicht sinnvollen Crypto-Currencys und eben auch (für die, die dies möchten) Scam-Coins (aller Art, von legal aber unethischen Projekten, bis hin zu weltweit-verfolgten schwerkriminellen Projekte von professionellen OK-Gruppen), sowie klassische, erwähnenswerte Pump&Dump-Kampagnen, also: Coins mit manipulierten Marktdaten (Handelsvolumen, Liquidität, Insiderinfos, ...).


Problematisch ist eben zur Zeit

a) dass die Poster, die darüber schreiben möchten selten relevante, neue Informationen posten oder überhaupt diskussionswürdiges
(sich permanent wiederholende Betrugsmaschen, zu wenig bekannte Informationen um sinnvolle Diskussion zu erlauben, Themenstellungen die zu subjektiv sind oder zu denen im Forum feste Meinungsbilder bestehen, weil sie bereits x-fach diskutiert wurden in 10000 Threads, ...)

b) dass Postings über das Traden solcher Coins häufig zu postiv/fast werbend formuliert sind
(so dass es immer wieder zu Streit/Meinungsverschiedenheiten kommt mit Postern die strikt gegen solche Coins bzw. Scams sind und offen äußern was sie von diesen Coins halten), da müssen die Poster die über solche Coins schreiben wollen,
- einfach cleverer sein in ihren Formulieren (nicht overhypen, klar formulieren, was Sache ist, eben auch Projektschwächen eingestehen, damit anschliessend dann interessante/erwähnenswerte Fakten noch diskutiert werden kann)
- ihr Ego etwas zurückstellen und nicht etwa Scam-Projekte verteidigen, weil sie sich von Kritik bzw. kritischen Hinweisen persönlich angegriffen fühlen
- ehrliche Erfolgsbilanzen bzw. Tradingerfolge/-ergebnisse benennen, ambesten soweit möglich nachvollziehbar und gesamtheitlich (nicht nur über Tradingerfolge mit einzelnen Coins, sondern eben dass Gesamt-Tradingergebnis in %), investierte Zeit in Research und aktiven Trading/Abwarten in h pro Woche wäre auch noch interessant

c) gut wäre auch, wenn veröffentlich wird in welchem Umfang ihr in so eine Coin investiert habt, damit eben Leser das Risiko bzw. Bedeutung dieses Investments für euch einschätzen können
(so ala: "habe 3% meines Altcoin-Trading-Kapitals investiert" vs. "habe 100% investiert, cashe noch FIAT nach und beleih mein Haus, damit ich mehr Coins kaufen kann", :-])



Soo, könnte man diese Themen sinnvoll diskutieren. Es reicht halt wirklich nicht, nur zu sagen "ich hab aber mit P&D-Coin oder IPO xyz 300% gemacht", "ich trade alle IPO-Coins, irgend ein Dummer kauft die schon", "ich trade erfolgreich jeden Swing, egal wie schlecht die preminte Scam-Coin ist".

Weil solche Statements keinen Anknüpfungspunkt für sinnvolle Diskussionen bietet und niemand weiß, was konkret gemeint bzw. glaubhaft ist.
Beispielhaft: Wieviel % verdient wurden bei welchem Risiko (% Portfolio, % Gesamtbesitz, ...), was der Poster überhaupt unter "erfolgreich" versteht, (zB. 30% vs. "keine Verluste macht"), zeitliche Dauer des "Erfolges" (zB. 2 Monate "erfolgreiches  Freizeit-Trading" vs. 2 Jahre Vollzeit-Trading von Crypto-Currencys), usw.


Gilt für den gesamten deutsche Foren-Teil:
Versucht gute Postings zu machen, weil wenn die Posting-Qualität schlecht ist, posten die Knowhow-Träger und Leute, die wirklich Ahnung (Fachwissen) und relevante neue, wertvolle Informationen besitzen, haben nichts mehr. (Und es bleiben nur die schlechten Poster übrig.)

See quote.

Sollte keine private Meinung sein, hatte es eigentlich für die Allgemeinheit ergänzt. Weil mMn. universal relevant für alle Projekte, in denen die Idendität und Vertrauenswürdigkeit des Herausgebers.


BTW, prima, dass es noch ein paar so gute Poster wie Dich gibt, die hochwertige Beiträge mit verständlichen Ausführungen erstellen.

Sukrim:
- Arbeitest Du für Ripple?
- Sollen/werden die XRPs nun zukünftig (doch wieder?) als Währung vermarktet? Oder bleiben/sind es wie bisher weiter Netzwerk-Token bzw. Software-Systembausteine ohne (gewollten) monetären Wert (Knappheit).
- Mir scheint, das aktuelle Interesse und der Hype um Ripple ist mehrheitlich durch Unwissen und Geldgier getragen, statt durch veränderter/verbesserter Basisdaten.
(Hab jetzt nur die aktuellen Forenposts zu Ripple gelesen.)

Ob der Herausgeber, 21 Privat-Personen aus dem NXT-Projekt & der Szene sind oder ein VC-finanziertes US-Unternehmen ist, bleibt immernoch ein himmerweiter, signifikanter Unterschied.

Verstehe nicht, was Du ausdrücken möchtest.

I.) Dass im Monero Projekt noch einige/viel Arbeit zu leisten ist, hinsichtlich Softwareentwicklung und dem Aufbau eines gesunden, lebendigen Business- & Technologie-Ökosystem für CryptoNote-basierte Coins ist offenkundig.
Meiner Einschätzung nach, ist dies aber durch die im Projekt vorhanden enormen Potentiale (aus Fundamentaldaten des Projekts ableitbar) bei weitem gerechtfertigt.

II.) Es wurde von Seiten der Monerco Entwickler und der Community nie behauptet, dass Monero a) früher als Q2/Q3 2015 voll einsatzfähig und hinreichend stabil ist oder das b) Monero als Crypto Currency bereits funktionsfähig und für Endbenutzer ready-to-use ist, wie bspw. eine von Bitcoin- oder NXT-geforkte Clone-Coin, bei welcher nur die Logos & Namen ausgetauscht werden.
Denn CryptoNote ist eben eine innovative, neuartige Crypto Currency-Plattform, die a) mit vielen etablierten Bitcoin-/Crypto Currency-Paradigmen & -Standards bricht und b) noch im Aufbau ist.

III.) Monero ist meiner Einschätzung nach, sowohl im Rennen um die Führerschaft im CryptoNote-Segment, als auch im großen Wettbewerb aller Anonymous Crypto Currencies um die Vorherrschaft und Etablierung als Nummer Eins Privacy-Coin und damit gleichzeitig führendes Zahlungsmittel im Deep Web E-Commerce gut positioniert und nicht benachteiligt oder zurückgefallen gegenüber anderen Projekten.
(--> alles in Ordnung, da man also in den beiden Nichen, die man adressiert, mit der aktuellen Wettbewerbsposition konkurrenzfähig ist)





Ergänzung: Vermutlich habe ich mich schlecht ausgedrückt, als ich schrieb "Ausschliesslich Monero". Damit wollte ich sagen, Monero ist das einzige Projekt, welches ich zu 100%, fokussiert und dauerhaft unterstützte. Ich wollte nicht ausdrücken damit, dass Monero, das einzig gute CC Projekt ist respektive die einzig langfristig chancenreiche "Hot Coin".
Andere Projekte kann ich nicht ernsthaft einschätzen, da ich sie nicht näher kenne.

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http://www.haufe.de/marketing-vertrieb/online-marketing/sparkassen-finanzgruppe-beteiligt-sich-an-payone_132_286474.html
http://www.businesswire.com/news/home/20141217006184/en/Bitcoin-Companies-Showcase-World-Bitcoin-CES#.VJLmgIr3MvY
http://europa.eu/rapid/press-release_STATEMENT-14-2767_en.htm (== Commission welcomes political agreement reached by European Parliament and Council on capping inter-bank fees for card-based payments)