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981  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Gambling and investment - different discussion on: April 07, 2018, 02:19:39 PM
As you can see, casino is a business so basically, if a casino is missing fund, they will look for investors to fill up the missing puzzle.  Then when the casino is establised, it will then promote its site by saying enticing words, (business as usual) so players will then attracted to play in their site.  IF you just follow the logic, business , client/investors, customer  you will not be confused.
Yes, the last time I checked business is business and the only ways casinos are making shit load of money is just because some people who have so much to give out all in the name of gambling or thinking they can make a lot from gambling are giving out as much as they can to the house.

I always feel the targets are newbies since they are always looking for ways to get rich quick anyway and that shows the level at which they are willing to whoop people's funds for investors to gain much. They are two different levels, one is losing big while the other is winning and we all know the losers here.
982  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Criteria of a good gambler on: April 07, 2018, 10:29:06 AM
You cannot enforce anything because gamblers themselves need to understand the importance of such criteria for their better life. Even you will be enforcing, I believe it will not make any differences and all your efforts will go in vain. Gambling probably enables people to go in wrong sides of life and  it affects not just a gambler but they are family too. Even gamblers are not understanding this and not ready to come out of this problem is too. Very pathetic.

Its true that gamblers understand that their actions have a bad effect on their family and friends and society in general. But the truth is that they cant stop themselves from playing and thus they are forced by their minds to play (so to say). They are tempted easily by the greed which also fuels them.

The OP is writing stuff which is coming their mind, but its just plain assumptions. If all these criteria were fulfilled then the person would no longer be a gambler rather become a saint LOL.
Gamblers are very well aware about the consequences of gambling in their latter part of life but they stand like helpless creature in front of a devil named gambling. This devil has made them bough down in front of him just by giving more money in short time periods so that they can live a life they wanted to live. The greed of more doesn’t allow them to stop even if they are trying to stop on their own. I believe no one can be a good gambler for ever in his career with gambling as gambling never gives room for anyone to enjoy such a status. We may finish off neutral with gambling but achieving a status of good gambling, no I believe it will be highly impossible.
983  Economy / Trading Discussion / Re: Do you trade for money or emotional satisfaction? on: April 06, 2018, 05:35:10 PM
sorry before, but personally I do trade is to get money because that way I can get additional money that can suffice my family, so I always do trade with caution.
Dude, not only you but everyone who is trading, they are just doing it for earning money. There may be some people who do this for emotional satisfaction but in my opinion you must be truthful. Definitely we are praising bitcoins just for the reason that they are good to give us income. But what if these coins started taking off their schemes and become useless for us, do we praise them anymore?
What is even there in trading that someone would be getting emotionally satisfied ?
Every form of business, investment, and activities in making money is all about the money and getting wealthy in the long run while doing your best to make it work and live your dream, but getting emotionally satisfied, I see no correlation at all between the two.

Maybe actors, musicians may get emotionally satisfied while making money in their daily stuffs, but for trading, a dude is here to make shit load of money and that is it.
984  Economy / Trading Discussion / Re: Trading Advice Needed on: April 06, 2018, 04:38:51 PM
First of all you should choose altcoins that are interesting for you and that you want to invest in. Then you should decide on what exchange you are going to trade, but you should remember, that trading is very risky, be careful and cautious
I do not see that as anything that can help a newbie in trading. Yeah, we all know that trading is very risky, but how can the risk be minimized. The only way is by learning and knowing what to do. It is not just about hitting an exchange to start buying altcoin, when you are buying, what you are buying and where you are buying are some of the things you need to be able to make in your decisions and you cannot do that without at least making use of all the resources available to learn.
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986  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: IPL( Indian Premier League) Prediction Thread, 2018. on: April 05, 2018, 10:27:09 AM
First of all it is very nice to have separate discussion for one event/tournament rather than having all in one. Big thanks to OP.
Before I tried starting new threads for tour and ICC events but this community did not support that  Sad

It could be too earlier to predict the winner of 2018 IPL. But my inner thoughts flaggin chennai super kings due to their consistency in previous editions and their captain is the only man who played more number of IPL finals. His guidelines so far did magic for chennal hence why not for this year too ?

After chennai, I expect knight riders may surprise us just due to their new captain. His only 9 balls of nittakas final in Lanka will justify this. Gambir returns to Delhi and Rohit's captaincy for Mumbai also we need to consider but chennai remains as a most favorite among these odds.
Seriously this seems so good to have a separate disunion for IPL because there was a thread with cricket match prediction and that was going so long. So good to OP for making such a new thread and discussion panel for this amazing event. And like you have said, Chennai supper kings would have been the favorite since long times so this time too, they will be making the mark.
987  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Does becoming a parent changes the gambler? on: April 05, 2018, 09:51:07 AM
This was the discussion topic we were having last night, a bunch of gambling friends and one of them an expecting dad. There were counter arguments that his child also would turn out a gambler like he is.

The arguments were that it is his in his gene and that'll pass on to his child, since every one in his family was a gambler.

The counter argument was that the child would make a logical decision and genes won't play any part in this.

Which brought us to another important question what if turns out a gambler would they both play together. Would he be comfortable?

Amid this he walked out and texted me he didn't wish to gamble anymore, so wanted your views on this.
Genes doesn’t run in the blood when we talk about gambling because gambling it is not a disease or insanity. It will always be depend on how we raise our child and the sorrounding that we allow them to see as they grow up. Well, if we let our child/children that gambling is like a normal thing and that there is no wrong about it. Then definitely our children will do the same. Always remember that the child’s brain is more smarter than us adults. So be a responsible parents if we want to raise a child that can make us proud.
That is exactly fine. Definitely this isn’t a disease that can be transferred from one person to another. While yes, if the father is gambling and his son knows that my father is just gambling and losing money every day. But someday if he is there in gambling, and father gets a win by chance. That was an addition to little money and now they got handsome money luckily, this child would be confident to gambling.
988  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: IS IT THE BEST TIME FOR GAMBLING? on: April 05, 2018, 08:25:12 AM
Ive read some news and threads saying that stocks and cryptos is dropping low and indeed its true. Bitcoins price drops to $7K and is quite disturbing.

Do you think its the best time for gambling? Given these following reasons.

- A certain loss on holding a coin can be obtained if you win on a bet in gambling and can recover what has been lost to you because of the drop.

-  Holding is not that practical because it can be much lowered in the future and better risk it on gambling than seeing it continue dying.

- Trading or Holding consumes more time and risk and it prolongs the pressure of loss in you mind and stress you through out the day and the only way to release it is to risk it in gambling.


As you can see, these things are only successful if you win and much stressful if you dont. What do you choose? What do you recommend? Need some answers.
Why taking the risk if you are not good into it? Yes indeed, we are also risking our fate with how bitcoin will recover, but it's not a good
practice not to have a patience to wait, this journey with crypto investment needed a lots of knowledge, instead of taking chances with
gambling much better to study trading and extend your journey allowing our self to understand more about the current flow, or just hold
your bitcoin and continue hoping till the value jumped high again.

For me, a person who is willing to use bitcoins in this gambling world, he is the most stupid and foolish person on this planet earth. Why it is, because bitcoins are amazing and tremendous coin from which you can earn so handsome amount and that is sure. But here if invested in gambling, these coins would be just a wastage after a single game and you would have just lost everything.
989  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Does ethics count in winning/gambling. on: April 05, 2018, 07:53:08 AM
It's very difficult to cheat in online gambling, but in real life, in casinos, it's possible. I think if the stakes were high enough I might get tempted to try cheating. Before you condemn me think about it for a second.
You are sitting next to someone at the table and see that he's not covering his cards well enough so that you're able to peek. Would you tell him, or try to ignore what you see? Or maybe you'd play along and call it luck? If it was a game with friends I'd tell him, but if those were strangers playing for money, i'd take advantage.
To cheat is a helpless, I try to warn him/her of someone cheating, I certainly do not agree with him. If I ignore the trick, it is a trick against me.


I think I will try to tells the employee that there is one person that trying to cheat the games. I think if I tell him, it will be a little debate because I am sure that he will defend his self and say that he doesn't did that. so it will be better if I can meet the employee and tells about this by a secret so that person will get the time with them.
Personally I will not do anything like that but I will simply leave off that place for sure. Because I just want not to create any problem for myself and for the on-going environment of others rather than finding a solution for cheats. It may sound selfish but that is the reality actually I am believing in to. It may against the general ethics of human being still I do follow this for my peaceful life.
990  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: The consequences of gambling on: April 04, 2018, 01:18:55 PM
The consequence of gambling is to be able to accept loss and not become blindly in gambling if you receive a big loss, since loss in gambling is the most important consequence that must be faced.
Loss is not the most important one. The dire consequences of gambling too much include getting addicted to it, not giving proper time to studies and family. Furthermore people start drinking or using drugs to beat the depression they develop because of losing gambling. Some people even borrow money from others to regain their losses. These all are the things that need to be considered as side effect.
Who told you my friend that loss doesn’t matter in life. Basically all the things in life revolve around the loss. Not only in gambling but also in other fields of life whether it is a business or something else because the main reason for putting all of efforts is to earn money and if that money will go in loss, then you will never get full reward of your efforts and you will become disappointed from your life.
991  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Can maths help you win in gambling ? on: April 04, 2018, 12:44:56 PM
I think there is no word to win in the gambling game. No one can win the gamble till today. But yes Mathematics can help you in some gambling games. To win the game, however I think it's too insignificant,
I am unable to understand your statement. Can you define that what you basically meant by ‘there is no word to win in gambling’. Are there words present to win every game in life? What are you saying man. Gambling is totally a luck dependent thing and math has no role in winning of any person in gambling because if math was really beneficial for winning in gambling then every mathematician would have been a millionaire.
992  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Gambling: Culture on: April 04, 2018, 12:11:29 PM
Gambling has been a part of every culture even if you are residing from a different country. Different ways and strategy but same goal. Probably it is because people always want to earn money in I think every aspect, so even if it is only a small amount of money earned through gambling, they’d still go for it.
Yes, the urge to have too much wealth and cash is the major motive for gamblers to get into this game. They think that this is the easiest way of making some of it without working hard but they forget that there is nothing in life that you can get without working hard and struggling. The easily earned money is the one that is usually easily lost. So better not promote this culture of gambling rather stop it.

But if we see in this point wise, that it is habit of every human to earn money a lot in a short way, then we see gambling is only fastest way to earn money. But without experience, we just think about it that we will be rich from gambling, but in fact it is all different result. But i don't think and i will never use Culture for gambling, because gambling is clearly separate from every culture. But you can call, it is become our habit to play gambling.
Even many culture in this world is not approving gambling as part of lifestyle, many people are into gambling as a daily event. They never bother about their culture nor traditions when they are considering in engaging themselves into gambling. I do see it is due to their addictions that is the reason they are including gambling into some exceptional cases.

When a person is more conscious about his culture then definitely he will start avoiding gambling but their addictions may not allow them to do so.
993  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: gambling ends on: April 04, 2018, 10:46:02 AM
Gamblings are fun. I dont think it is going to stop and besides there is a lot of gambling varieties. You name it but i think you also know it. So if one stops there is still a lot and a lot more are coming out.

Gambling has become a hobby of many people, gambling will never stop. When a gambler stops, a new gambler will appear. So the gambler could just stop, but the gambling stays on track. It is difficult to dismiss the things that have been loved by many people.

If stopping the gambling it is helping the person it is good for his and his family as he would not be addictive , giving time to his near and dear ones, and would not be losing money in gambling. Thus it is good to see till the time it helps people in a positive way.

Gambling is daily activity for a gambler, the don't understand how positive or negative from gambling. For a gambler, gambling is like you eat if you don't it just in one day maybe you will die or you will feel very hungry. No one can't stop gambling especialy in this world. I think when you invested in bitcoin is like a gambling too, when you put money and give a time for the price high and you will sell when the price high then your money manipold.
For most people gambling will never finds any end because they are into such activity as their day-to-day routine life. They are not finding any differences from other common people in their lifestyle. Only for the people who are caring about their responsibilities may find differences from the rest of the people so that they will find solutions to end their gambling activities.

Gambling make people to forget their regular life like in getting into their responsibilities and which helps gambling itself to be active all the time is without any end.
994  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Gambling: Culture on: April 04, 2018, 09:46:09 AM
Gambling has been a part of every culture even if you are residing from a different country. Different ways and strategy but same goal. Probably it is because people always want to earn money in I think every aspect, so even if it is only a small amount of money earned through gambling, they’d still go for it.
Yes, the urge to have too much wealth and cash is the major motive for gamblers to get into this game. They think that this is the easiest way of making some of it without working hard but they forget that there is nothing in life that you can get without working hard and struggling. The easily earned money is the one that is usually easily lost. So better not promote this culture of gambling rather stop it.
995  Economy / Marketplace / Re: I'm going to buy some bitcoins on: April 04, 2018, 05:52:50 AM
it is right time to buy some bitcoin because price is low and we have chance to get some more profit in future may be we can not get the chance because that is fact the price gonna rock in 2018 dec and after some time if want to invest that will be little difficult people are just waiting making plan to what they wanted to do in future, just keep patience.

If you have an extra money for investment, i think now is the time for you to buy while price is low so you have a good profit once the market price will rise.
Buying of the bitcoin is only a good idea if you have some solid plan about the future in your mind. There is no such point of just buying the bitcoins and then selling them after some period. you should only go for buying of bitcoins if you have a plan of holding them for a longer period and that too without losing your control over your emotions even for a second as this can be a huge disaster.
996  Economy / Marketplace / Re: Hacking is the Big Problem on: April 04, 2018, 05:22:04 AM
Guys…

I read the new the Japanese Exchange Coincheck loses ¥58 billion in the hacking attack. It’s not a single case in this after a few weeks ago Etherdelta was also Hacked. So how can we ensure that our money is safe on exchanges?
Hacking means steal any things or valueable information. Many a times hackers hacking Ether delta DNS systems. For reasons they hacked altcoins from mew .
You are very much exposed to hackers and attackers at time when you put in any kind of information on internet or you play with the things related to it.

If you will not be having a good knowledge and awareness regarding the things related to that of cyber security and keep your credentials safe on internet, it will be very much difficult for you to keep yourself away from such kind of attacks.
997  Economy / Marketplace / Re: Will bitcoin disappear in the future? on: April 03, 2018, 11:25:59 AM
Bitcoin will not disappear as long as we believe in it
I can’t find some good reason because of which we can say such kind of thing that we won’t be able to see bitcoin after some period as this will never happen and that bitcoin will remain there for centuries. The way people are responding towards bitcoin and the way they are investing their money into it is an indication of this thing that bitcoin is going to have a very bright future in future.
998  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: How can you save money while playing gambling games? on: April 03, 2018, 10:20:46 AM
When you do gambling im afraid its about spending money and not saving. Sometimes people thought if they gamble they can get more profit but basically they are losing money. You cannot save when you gamble unless if you are so lucky you will win big and can save some. So basically gambling is not a good idea.
Only losers and those who are afraid of working hard are the ones who go for gambling in order to earn their livelihood. Otherwise all those who are wise and civilized, who understand the realities of the life never go for this stupid game in order to become stable financially.

I have never seen anyone becoming a millionaire or billionaire with gambling. For this, you have to work hard to succeed financially in life.
999  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: please help me seriously to leave gambling ???? on: April 03, 2018, 09:45:29 AM
Today i realised i am in huge huge trouble due to gambling...i just kept loosing amount in gambling quickly...decided many times to leave gambling but never happened....today i counted that i have lost almost 10 bitcoins in gambling in last 1-2 years and the amount i loose is going to keep on increasing...
  i just tried to do every thing but nothing is quiet working...what ever i earn i dont know what to do with them and in some time i loose them again...
i am realising i am in big trouble,already in huge loss what to do... Embarrassed

Just for your information, there are de-addiction centers out there which specifically deal with addiction to gambling. I don't know about your location, but I guess such centers may be available in your vicinity as well. And I would advice you to get admitted to one very soon, before you completely ruin yourself financially.
Even if there are not such centers, he can go to psychologists. Psychologist are easily available everywhere and I don’t think so they would not be able to cope with this situation or treat this patient. Such centers are not often found everywhere which help people out with any kind of addiction. Moreover he should discuss it with someone who really cares about him and is sincere with him.
1000  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Is Gambling addiction a disease? on: April 03, 2018, 09:11:25 AM
For me, it is somewhat a disease already, why? Addiction for me is also sick. Once you've become attached to that addiction, you can never go out on that unless there is someone who will help you stop that addiction. Just like when we are sick, we need to medicate to make us well. I think it is also like that.
That makes sense. Definitely this is nothing but a disease. A wealthy person with a healthy mind goes in a casino on some friend’s request for some time. There he sees how people are doing and earning fake money that would be just going away from them the very next day. But still an image is built on this mind about greed of money and he comes out as poor person with diseases mind.
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