I don't think that the negative trust is because of them running a game as you call it. it's rather the fact that whatever is going to happen the owner is going to get away with people's BTC.
I mean, this isn't anything different from a casino site? They have the same capacity to scam... Or even an exchange? Casinos and exchanges are businesses. They try to maintain a reputation to keep their costumers. I'm sure majority of users here wouldn't use a casino or exchange if their service quality wasn't rock solid. Most long standing businesses are ran honestly and surely are not built with the sole intention to scam people when the owner decides to close his sceme down. Why not let the consumer decide for themselves then instead of negging every possible scam. Why not neg someone when they do scam?What the fuck kind of reasoning is this? It's called being proactive and helping people. Go into the lending section then and lend your funds to every newbie who promises to pay you back. When I go to the lending section, I decide for myself what I want to and don't want to trust. Same with gambling sites. You answer that point. Why not answer the one I produced before? If ponzi is such a legitimate gamble as well as profitable for a long time operator, where are the long term ponzis? The concept is not new. There were streams of them last year. Where are they now? I wasn't here last year, also I'm talking about ponzi games... Not ponzis. Do a quick search. The skeletons of them are still here. And those were ponzi GAMES |
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I am not saying any of that. My argument is that I feel that any ponzi "game" operator are going to scam. I personally think anyone who invests in a ponzi is a sucker who will eventually be parted with their money several times over.
I think that anyone who is actively promoting ponzis (that I think will eventually scam) are enabling the scam that will eventually happen
I think that anyone who plays a dice site is a sucker and will be parted with their money several times over due to the house edge. I think that anyone promoting dice sites are enabling others to lose money. You can think that but at least that dice site is owned by a reputable member of the forums who has a high probability of NOT running with the funds if something goes wrong. In addition there is provably fair verification. I'd counter that anyone is a sucker to deposit their money into a highly suspect site, opened by a newbie that barely speaks English, promising unsustainable returns |
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I don't think that the negative trust is because of them running a game as you call it. it's rather the fact that whatever is going to happen the owner is going to get away with people's BTC.
I mean, this isn't anything different from a casino site? They have the same capacity to scam... Or even an exchange? Casinos and exchanges are businesses. They try to maintain a reputation to keep their costumers. I'm sure majority of users here wouldn't use a casino or exchange if their service quality wasn't rock solid. Most long standing businesses are ran honestly and surely are not built with the sole intention to scam people when the owner decides to close his sceme down. Why not let the consumer decide for themselves then instead of negging every possible scam. Why not neg someone when they do scam?What the fuck kind of reasoning is this? It's called being proactive and helping people. Go into the lending section then and lend your funds to every newbie who promises to pay you back. When I go to the lending section, I decide for myself what I want to and don't want to trust. Same with gambling sites. You answer that point. Why not answer the one I produced before? If ponzi is such a legitimate gamble as well as profitable for a long time operator, where are the long term ponzis? The concept is not new. There were streams of them last year. Where are they now? |
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I don't think that the negative trust is because of them running a game as you call it. it's rather the fact that whatever is going to happen the owner is going to get away with people's BTC.
I mean, this isn't anything different from a casino site? They have the same capacity to scam... Or even an exchange? Casinos and exchanges are businesses. They try to maintain a reputation to keep their costumers. I'm sure majority of users here wouldn't use a casino or exchange if their service quality wasn't rock solid. Most long standing businesses are ran honestly and surely are not built with the sole intention to scam people when the owner decides to close his sceme down. Why not let the consumer decide for themselves then instead of negging every possible scam. Why not neg someone when they do scam?What the fuck kind of reasoning is this? It's called being proactive and helping people. Go into the lending section then and lend your funds to every newbie who promises to pay you back. |
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He constantly promotes scammy websites. He was a massive proponent of Bitcoin-stocks which was an obvious front for his ponzi. After the collapse his response was that he is: Michaeladair you got kicked in the face! Told you this guy ain't paying out shit! He also deleted all of my posts.
Anyone who sent anyone negative rep because you believed Plutonium was going to pay you out is now screwed over.
I should have made the bet with Michael yesterday. I would have won today 😀
Yeah, I get kicked in the face a lot for trusting humanity. It's one of my flaws.I just don't see how disbelief to all that has not a lot of proof is a good way to go about life. Yet you're STILL promoting and supporting other ponzis??  Just in nextponzi, it seemed a bit legit... but now it's having some bugs and problems so Idk. Nextponzi is already offline and gone. Someone that is "too trusting in humanity" and massive proponent of scams is monitoring other people for whether they are trustworthy. |
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You think the idea of a ponzi "GAME" is new? They were here last year too.
Why are there no long term ponzi games if it so fair and profitable for an operator? But dice sites, casinos, and sportsbook have been in the Bitcoin world for years?
Michaeladair your arguments are weak and your promotions of ponzis is shameful
I dont promote all ponzi games, i just dont believe in leaving negative trust... Also theyre Ponzi Games... GAMES. i You didn't answer my point above that "You think the idea of a ponzi "GAME" is new? They were here last year too. Why are there no long term ponzi games if it so fair and profitable for an operator? But dice sites, casinos, and sportsbook have been in the Bitcoin world for years?" |
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You think the idea of a ponzi "GAME" is new? They were here last year too.
Why are there no long term ponzi games if it so fair and profitable for an operator? But dice sites, casinos, and sportsbook have been in the Bitcoin world for years?
Michaeladair your arguments are weak and your promotions of ponzis is shameful
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Pretty sure, this round will be quick and massive. WeelkyPonzy is very honest ponzi, at least two weeks. 24 hours must be sooo hot!  Pretty sure, this round will be quick and massive. WeelkyPonzy is very honest ponzi, at least two weeks.
24 hours must be sooo hot!
Same reply from two NEW users. Ponzi operator bumping his own thread with shill accounts. Use extreme caution if depositing in this ponzi |
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can some one write a unbiased review and process of weeklyponzi I will pay .01 500 word easy money.
I have been unbiased about it but a few think I am licking his ass because he has been honest in regards to how this has been run. He has had issues with his script though that caused some massive problems. He is trying to get people to return their funds that were over paid. It is unknown if he will cover the remaining amount to true it up. I doubt he will which will be a strike against him in my book. However he only started asking for money back from those users a few hours ago so it is too early to say. The user above has been harassing him on twitter and bashing him on here but has not given him time to actually get things fixed. Granted some of the OP’s twitter sure shows he will not be paying anything out of his Fee income to balance the game where it should be. He might be waiting to give people that have extra funds time to send them back so he has to eat less of the costs. I do not know but I do know the OP had the chance to run with 100 BTC when things went downhill last night and he did not. How many ponzi operators would do that? His game last week went the way it was planned. It had a few issues with his API/Script but he fixed those. This OP has taken the time to fix numerous things when most operators would cut and run when things get tough. You spent your time trying to justify and say that OP was legit and that he didn't take the money, etc. But I'm sorry, the fact is that OP has lost about 62 btc which is roughly 13000$. I'm reacting like that because I talk to him on Twitter and he said a lot of BS about blokchain API and then he said: I'm not prepared to throw away all my profit I've made. He is absolutely not ready to fix things and that's why I think he doesn't deserve our trust. What happened is his fault and I don't understand people trying to defend him. The only reason is to lure people to invest more in the ponzi to get money back. Again, as I said multiple times, I have 4 transactions unpaid and I would like too that other people invest to get my money back. But I'm not going to lure them intentionally by minimizing the loss of 62 btc. For the part where I say that OP could have done some investments himself and paid them double, I don't have any evidence. I'm just saying that we don't know what happened and OP doesn't want to fix it, so it could be a possibility. Some people said they were paid double but it doesn't add up to 62 btc. I agree he lost a lot of money. I was defending him from the people saying he took the money. With that said I have not followed everything you guys have been talking about on twitter. And you are correct we do not know if he was some of the double pay. I do thing if he wants to regain trust he needs to cover lost amount. However we know he is sleeping know based on his post history from last week. He had just started asking people for money back that were over paid right before he went to bed so I am hoping he will fix this issue when he wakes up and there has been time for people to repay. I didn’t see the tweet about him not willing to repay with his profit. I can see why you are upset then. And if he doesn’t I will be standing next to you. I just want him to have time to fix this. And for the people saying all of the 60 btc double pay was on purpose and it was just to him was wrong because people have confirmed it was not. Just nobody really cares to pay back the ill-gotten gains. I really do not want to be protecting the OP here. However he in the past has fixed issues so I am giving him the benefit of the doubt he will fix them again. Yeah I understand what you mean. I don't really think he has done any of the double paid transactions, but since he is not willing to use even a little bit of his fee to relaunch the ponzi, I thought about it. I spoke to him by private messages on Twitter, that's why you didn't saw it. Well I hope he changes his mind when he wakes up and sees how things have slowed down. How can he expect users that were overpaid to send money back if he is not willing to pay for his mistake. Of course it goes both ways. How can users that were over paid expect him to take the lose when all they are doing is scaming other users. But if he wants this long term he has to run it like a business and do what is best for his image. The games will die off if he doesnt fix it. I think they will explode if he does fix it with his money. What image? He's some random dude from eastern Europe that played your dumbass for easy Bitcoin. He can disappear with all the coin then start up another ponzi. All the people hoping this guy will come back are delusional |
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My vote goes to 'yes'.
Newbie jail doesn't stop anyone from wanting to join the forums. The point of the forum is to read about Bitcoin and learn everything there is about it. Plenty of information before the newbie time limit is up. And any questions they may have has definitely been answered before. On top of that, it would stop scammy lending posts, ponzi posts, and make it more difficult for scammers and spammers to up post counts of new accounts to sell or scam.
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Can someone help me understand what this means:
-7 unconfirmed?
And all those pending ones when I view on blockchain it says no transaction found?
I was sending a whole heap of different transactions at the same time.
Wait for 1 confirmation, It should be okay for that. Please be aware that return is not guaranteed. Why are you depositing so much into a ponzi?Greed and stupidity Do you feel like everyone that likes to do things you don’t like are stupid? If they want to gamble with that amount of coin more power to them. As long as they know the risk involved it is their money to do as they wish. Do you consider me stupid because I go to a casino? When I go with my friends to play craps or black jack I expect to lose. But it is for a fun night. Here people like the excitement of risking money to make money. To each their own. This operator has shown he is not here to run away. He had the chance too. Granted there are things we wish he would do since his code had a mistake. But for the Ponzi part he has been as honest as you can be with this kind of game. Way to make a jump there. I think ANYONE who invests in a ponzi is a moron. I love to gamble for fun but "investing" or gambling in these ponzis is idiotic and promoting scammy behavior. If you want to be part of the short craze, go for it. But it won't stop me from making fun of you when he runs off with your money. Well last week he did not. Earlier tonight he did not. He could have with 100 BTC probably a good time to do it. But he chose not to. Yes a lot of them are scams. This one so far has been showing not too be. Of course it could turn out to be just like anything on the internet that is not policed very well. Just because it is a Ponzi does not mean he is a scam. If they try to pass a ponzi off as something that will go on forever or if they run with the money then they are a scam. But if you lose a game that you knew the rules and they were followed then you were not scammed you just lost. Even if it is legit (it's not - I guarantee you all the BTC in my wallet he will run eventually), you are promoting ponzi as a legitimate gambling activity for all the newbies that don't know better. It's not healthy for Bitcoin, and it's not healthy for this gambling section. Either way good luck to you guys and hope you don't lose too much money in this endeavor. You would have a point if you were against all gambling. There isn't a single gambling game in existence that hasn't been rigged and cheated people. Gambling is a scam by its very nature. If you were saying gambling isn't healthy for Bitcoin, you would have a point. Why is gambling a scam by its very nature?? There are tons of games that have very provable and set odds. Also considered a house edge. There are no odds in a ponzi. It is easy to abuse and manipulate. It's not healthy for Bitcoin because ponzis are considered investment fraud and when people hear about others getting scammed through these methods; they will automatically think Bitcoin is a scam as well. People here are setting up games that are provable. That is why everyone knows right now that there is an issue that needs fixing. While it isn't as simple as a dice game, it is much better odds than something like betting on a number in roulette. As for you proofs, they really don't mean much to a dishonest programmer. While programming a cooked game is a lot of work if it appears to be provable, setting up a paper wallet, sending coins there and screaming hack is very simple. How many game sites have been hacked? Are you so sure that none of those hacks weren't inside jobs? There are also "safe" game like a lottery. There is a reason small lotteries used to be called the numbers racket before governments started running them. Besides that the odds are insanely bad on lotteries. Are you against them? I'll say it again, there isn't any game that isn't easy to abuse and manipulate. There are many people that don't know that. At least these Ponzi games leave a easy to follow record of the abuse. That isn't true of a "hacked" gambling site. The Ponzi game is less random than many games of chance, that is true. Maybe that is why there is some much hate towards them. They are risky, but not any more risky than any other crypto gambling site. For the record, I'm not promoting Ponzi games or any gambling. I do like to see honestly though as it is a rare thing. We'll see how this one goes. Yes, there is provably fair here in Bitcoin gambling land where you can check hashes to make sure casinos aren't changing numbers on you. Otherwise, I think it's up to the gambler to go with a site that has a proven reputation. Why do bad odds imply a scam? It's not a smart gamble but it certainly doesn't make the lottery cheaters. They aren't rigging certain people to win. What stops the ponzi operator or his friends from depositing and then paying themselves out? Just because there is a blockchain doesn't make it easy to follow abuse. It will be interesting to see how the operator handles this situation. I don't think he will make up the amount lost and the fact that hes pushing forward with the 24hourponzi with higher limits without resolving the weekly one is bad news. There is a large scam in the works. You can quote this post at a later date when it happens. |
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Can someone help me understand what this means:
-7 unconfirmed?
And all those pending ones when I view on blockchain it says no transaction found?
I was sending a whole heap of different transactions at the same time.
Wait for 1 confirmation, It should be okay for that. Please be aware that return is not guaranteed. Why are you depositing so much into a ponzi?Greed and stupidity Do you feel like everyone that likes to do things you don’t like are stupid? If they want to gamble with that amount of coin more power to them. As long as they know the risk involved it is their money to do as they wish. Do you consider me stupid because I go to a casino? When I go with my friends to play craps or black jack I expect to lose. But it is for a fun night. Here people like the excitement of risking money to make money. To each their own. This operator has shown he is not here to run away. He had the chance too. Granted there are things we wish he would do since his code had a mistake. But for the Ponzi part he has been as honest as you can be with this kind of game. Way to make a jump there. I think ANYONE who invests in a ponzi is a moron. I love to gamble for fun but "investing" or gambling in these ponzis is idiotic and promoting scammy behavior. If you want to be part of the short craze, go for it. But it won't stop me from making fun of you when he runs off with your money. Well last week he did not. Earlier tonight he did not. He could have with 100 BTC probably a good time to do it. But he chose not to. Yes a lot of them are scams. This one so far has been showing not too be. Of course it could turn out to be just like anything on the internet that is not policed very well. Just because it is a Ponzi does not mean he is a scam. If they try to pass a ponzi off as something that will go on forever or if they run with the money then they are a scam. But if you lose a game that you knew the rules and they were followed then you were not scammed you just lost. Even if it is legit (it's not - I guarantee you all the BTC in my wallet he will run eventually), you are promoting ponzi as a legitimate gambling activity for all the newbies that don't know better. It's not healthy for Bitcoin, and it's not healthy for this gambling section. Either way good luck to you guys and hope you don't lose too much money in this endeavor. You would have a point if you were against all gambling. There isn't a single gambling game in existence that hasn't been rigged and cheated people. Gambling is a scam by its very nature. If you were saying gambling isn't healthy for Bitcoin, you would have a point. Why is gambling a scam by its very nature?? There are tons of games that have very provable and set odds. Also considered a house edge. There are no odds in a ponzi. It is easy to abuse and manipulate. It's not healthy for Bitcoin because ponzis are considered investment fraud and when people hear about others getting scammed through these methods; they will automatically think Bitcoin is a scam as well. |
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Can someone help me understand what this means:
-7 unconfirmed?
And all those pending ones when I view on blockchain it says no transaction found?
I was sending a whole heap of different transactions at the same time.
Wait for 1 confirmation, It should be okay for that. Please be aware that return is not guaranteed. Why are you depositing so much into a ponzi?Greed and stupidity Do you feel like everyone that likes to do things you don’t like are stupid? If they want to gamble with that amount of coin more power to them. As long as they know the risk involved it is their money to do as they wish. Do you consider me stupid because I go to a casino? When I go with my friends to play craps or black jack I expect to lose. But it is for a fun night. Here people like the excitement of risking money to make money. To each their own. This operator has shown he is not here to run away. He had the chance too. Granted there are things we wish he would do since his code had a mistake. But for the Ponzi part he has been as honest as you can be with this kind of game. Way to make a jump there. I think ANYONE who invests in a ponzi is a moron. I love to gamble for fun but "investing" or gambling in these ponzis is idiotic and promoting scammy behavior. If you want to be part of the short craze, go for it. But it won't stop me from making fun of you when he runs off with your money. Well last week he did not. Earlier tonight he did not. He could have with 100 BTC probably a good time to do it. But he chose not to. Yes a lot of them are scams. This one so far has been showing not too be. Of course it could turn out to be just like anything on the internet that is not policed very well. Just because it is a Ponzi does not mean he is a scam. If they try to pass a ponzi off as something that will go on forever or if they run with the money then they are a scam. But if you lose a game that you knew the rules and they were followed then you were not scammed you just lost. Even if it is legit (it's not - I guarantee you all the BTC in my wallet he will run eventually), you are promoting ponzi as a legitimate gambling activity for all the newbies that don't know better. It's not healthy for Bitcoin, and it's not healthy for this gambling section. Either way good luck to you guys and hope you don't lose too much money in this endeavor. |
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Are there any dumber members??
hahahah reading through his trust gives you insight into how dumb this dude really is  |
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Can someone help me understand what this means:
-7 unconfirmed?
And all those pending ones when I view on blockchain it says no transaction found?
I was sending a whole heap of different transactions at the same time.
Wait for 1 confirmation, It should be okay for that. Please be aware that return is not guaranteed. Why are you depositing so much into a ponzi?Greed and stupidity Do you feel like everyone that likes to do things you don’t like are stupid? If they want to gamble with that amount of coin more power to them. As long as they know the risk involved it is their money to do as they wish. Do you consider me stupid because I go to a casino? When I go with my friends to play craps or black jack I expect to lose. But it is for a fun night. Here people like the excitement of risking money to make money. To each their own. This operator has shown he is not here to run away. He had the chance too. Granted there are things we wish he would do since his code had a mistake. But for the Ponzi part he has been as honest as you can be with this kind of game. Way to make a jump there. I think ANYONE who invests in a ponzi is a moron. I love to gamble for fun but "investing" or gambling in these ponzis is idiotic and promoting scammy behavior. If you want to be part of the short craze, go for it. But it won't stop me from making fun of you when he runs off with your money. |
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Can someone help me understand what this means:
-7 unconfirmed?
And all those pending ones when I view on blockchain it says no transaction found?
I was sending a whole heap of different transactions at the same time.
Wait for 1 confirmation, It should be okay for that. Please be aware that return is not guaranteed. Why are you depositing so much into a ponzi?Greed and stupidity |
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Haven't seen that kind of drop in awhile but was able to nab a few coins when the bottom fell out to $160
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Fucking nuts
Not even sure what parts of the story to believe. Must have been in some serious money troubles to go to that extent. Doesn't feel very much like self-defense.
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There's already a thread on DefaultTrust: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=914641.0And you are asking people to remove trust from ponzi operators in particular. You won't get sympathy on this board for those who start ponzis. They have a terrible track record and also been proven unsustainable. The negative trust for any member engaging in these activities is completely justified. |
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