Looks like it. He(yakuza) is probably trying to play the game so people come to an agreement that negative trust shouldn't be awarded, then he can open one with his account, probably because a ponzi account by a hero member would be considered more safe.
Well the reason I made this topic was to make people thing ponzi as a gambling and not scamming. He sneaks it in the end that he might open one up  All the ponzis are scams. I dont care how you word it. Use a new account like all the rest because you will become red. All the ponzis are scam if at the end they disappear the ponzi opened with hero member account will almost eliminate the competition and the fact that I am free to use escrow to store the cold storage funds will eliminate the competition completely. They HAVE to disappear because eventually they can't pay all the investors! That's why it's unsustainable! |
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If you ignore the fact that you are running a ponzi (this is a ponzi), then the negative trust is still appropiate.
Your "game" is not fair to players: there is no way to verify that appropiate players are receiving a payout. I haven't looked real closely at how your "game" works, however I assume it determins who gets paid something similar to the early players profit while the later players get nothing. Even if you used the first blocks that confirmed transactions you could easily use your own money (via mixers) to play early on this would make it so the majority of plays would end up loosing.
There is no real way to "verify" bets. In addition to the above you need to be trusted that appropiate players get payout. Even prime dice, which is arguably the most reputable Bitcoin casino here allows players to verify their bets to prove they received appropiate payments.
You are asking players to trust you with large amounts of money while you have no reputation. Mu believe your first post was creating your game. This is very similar to a brand new user asking to be trusted with a short term loan.
You clearly are not new to the forum based on how quickly you made it to meta and how familar you are with the trust system. This means that you are either a scammer (and should not be trusted) or plan on eventually scamming and want to protect your existing accounts reputation when you eventually run away with investor money. I am sure you knew you would probably get negative trust the hour you started your game however, a reputable member could potentially provide a history of "honesty" with their game to get it removed. I somewhat thing it is the former. I somewhat doubt that badbear will confirm or deny this, however I would speculate that you can be linked to either a scammer or are using An IP masking service like tor or a vpn.
There was recently a ponzi that was "honest" with players for a while (a few weeks) and had over 700 BTC move through their address. This built up a lot of confidence with their game allowing them to quickly accumulate large amounts of Bitcoin very quickly which means if they delayed payouts even a short time then they could run away with large amounts of Bitcoin. The end game in these ponzis is to run away once enough confidence is built up.
H8HmIEPxaKAU6XR1itlUXfP4FM14+Uj5QrWyql9I11CdKawkiUZpoft76VRTqWH9JdC/7UQ3zbLVBV3wRqyybY4= ^^^^ signed What can I possibly add after this? Quickseller perfectly summed it up. There is no such thing as a legit ponzi. Same as a thimblerigger you are allways in full control, never is the other party risking their money. If you actually think that Ponzis are a legit form of gambling, why do you hide behind your alt? And another question: where do you come from? I wonder if this is some cultural thing. Edit: Id like to post some recent quotes your "happy" customers left: deposits increased from 13x to 148, the remaining btc for next payout reset like 3 times, and the line on the website hasn't moved since around noon... what's up with that?
Also why don't you make this honestly, you will make more money from fees than dishonesty, i.e. payouts it supposed to be equal to deposits unless there
is not enough to cover next payout, I really do not know what is wrong with some people i.e. OP
Remove "Round resets SOON" from front page, for gods sake... there is a timer
you are practically invite investors to not invest...
and last deposit 16ifqeioagCULqdxiHCtky4U3qxZ9i2svp 0.01984432
says "Return paid", but in the blockchain is not paid
And this:
"Your partner" apparently "yelled" at someone and removed the post. You dont even know about this. Strike that, might honestly been faked. You are both missing the point Again: if Bitcointalk were all on 0 trust how would we know who are scammers and who are not? Same thing with the ponzi section. Secondly we can't hold more than 1.95btc at a time on our site I've said this time and time again That's why myself and weekly ponzi do not deserve these ratings. As for those quotes, this is what happened when you don't have a self moderated thread. People FUD and trash the shit out of it. That's not our fault and we can't do anything about it sadly. bt234 is a FUD,and in all honesty I don't know what the other two quotes are talking about (I've been asleep so maybe my dev edited the site to fix those errors) Either way, you better read this thread properly you are both missing my point You didn't respond to any of his arguments. All you keep saying is that everybody is missing the point. I think you are missing the point and deluding yourself into thinking what you are doing is responsible gambling when in fact it is a large scam. Find another way to make BTC besides scamming people. |
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Casino is different from a Ponzi, why would you even compare the two?
Oh wait you're going to put up 1.. no point debating over it
He sneaks it in the end that he might open one up All the ponzis are scams. I dont care how you word it. Use a new account like all the rest because you will become red. |
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Just like there were plenty of scams at the beginning of the internet. People will get smarter and eventually learn, it just will take time.
There are always a lot of "newcomers". Many of them happy to jump into every kind of shit in hopes of making a few quick bucks. It's quite worrying that lately there are a couple new Ponzi games popping up on the daily basis. People seem not to learn... I dont get it! how r ponzi's still on the rise?? there is enough info abt whats gonna happen in the end..ie. ppl losing money.!! but still they r running successfully! HOW??  Greedy people that are realllly stupid. A fool and his money are soon parted |
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Ok i sent more and got the return (0.65)... it's working  Obvious ponzi shill. No one is getting paid out. These are SAME people as nextponzi. Pathetic attempt at scamming people |
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If it has a website, it belongs in Gambling. If it does not have a website, it belongs in Games and Rounds.
What about this one. The OP is not asking for anyone to post anything, but is telling investors suckers to send bitcoin to the ponzi address (from a non-shared wallet, like QT or multibit) then the ponzi OP will eventually send money back to the "sending" address. It does not appear to have a website Games and Rounds. If it has a website, it belongs in Gambling. If it does not have a website, it belongs in Games and Rounds.
So the posts with BTC addresses directly in the forum without a website can be reported? Yes, though one of the ones you reported did have a website. Thank you for moving those. They are now creating multiple threads with the same title on the front of the gambling page. Isn't this blatant spam at least worthy of a few day ban? |
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Another BTC price drop and another 1 BTC available today
Kosh, could you go over 1 BTC? What kind of a rate can I expect? *edit* For WU* *edit* Sorry no WU for me. Only selling through serve, quickpay, and vanilla reload at the moment. |
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Pretty obvious scam attempt
Newbie with all easily reversible methods.
Refusing escrow is the icing on the cake
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Are there any good texas hold em games going? Doesn't seem like they are advertised very much. Thanks for letting me know.
sealswithclubs is decent, long running, trustworthy, their software is fine. Looking forward to pokerstars accepting bitcoin, im assuming they are just waiting on the legal angle. Has there been any kind of announcement of something like this? |
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TL;DR: Sand in my pussy. Too much time sitting in front of a computer makes it itchy. I'm not gonna answer easy questions and instead insult intelligence. Also, get that post count up. Only achievement you'll see in this lifetime.  Jesus Christ. Pitiful. Do you actually think you're scoring points or even annoying me repeating the same childishness? Saying things like 'sand in your pussy' are schoolyard insults and would be embarrassing coming from someone even in their teens but I think may actually be talking to a child here and you're just proving everything I said right, but it's clear you don't have the intelligence or wit to respond so you just put your fingers in your ears whilst you repeatedly bash your head against a wall and parrot your childish irrelevant mantras. I just read your post and you seem to be obsessed with my age now. Maybe your responses have devolved this discussion that much to "schoolyard insults" But I'm a graduate student so let that give you an idea of my age. Carry on with your posting legacy please  Oh, and feel free to address my 3 points about gambling, scams, and drugs whenever. That was what started this all after you called my method of thinking idiotic as well as anyone who thinks that way. |
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If it has a website, it belongs in Gambling. If it does not have a website, it belongs in Games and Rounds.
So the posts with BTC addresses directly in the forum without a website can be reported? |
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Poverty is the only reason.
What poverty? Many Arab countries are extremely rich from oil. Nations such as Saudi Arabia fuel the divide between Sunni and Shiite. They endorse terrorism such as ISIS. You will never hear anything bad about Saudi Arabia in America though because of their energy alliance. All the hate and violence stems from greed. |
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The Games And Rounds section isn't meant for that kind of stuff.
Ponzis don't really fall into "Spreadsheet games, forum-based games, and discussion of individual rounds/games on other sites.".
Besides, using a ponzi is considered gambling.
Some ponzis were already moved into there. They are forum-based in that the transaction IDs and promotion activity are through this forum. They are also round based and have time limits. All the threads in games and rounds fall under this description. They are all considered gambling. They are in a gambling subsection |
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Ponzis should definitely have its own board, but there is also a problem with that. If it has its own board it encourages more of these and people with their fake sites will be scamming people there with ease. On the other hand it will separate real gambling threads from the ponzi schemes, and while ponzis are gambling sites they work in a different way.
It won't encourage people after they lose their BTC savings. These aren't even a gamble as the operators are the only sure winners. I guarantee if there was a board with only ponzis. It would be dead after two days. My program has stated TIME and TIME again that it is a gamble. Operators of any site are sure winners. I haven't seen on dice site bust, because they've all got house edges JUST LIKE we take fees from every transaction. We state you can lose your money, if people are so blind that they can't see our bold writing then I can't take the fall for that. I disagree. Ponzi's are the same as Casino's. If you make a ponzi section then you're going to have to make a Dice section or a Poker section as well as it is a type of gamble. Games run differently and just because Ponzi's are just starting to become an honest gamble, you can't exclude them from the Gambling section. Sure some sites will have bad intentions JUST LIKE MOST DICE SITES who run with investor money like Dicebitco.in...but this happens everywhere. I have no idea why everyone is so against a ponzi game that is honest about being one, and then HYIP's that claim to invest money don't receive a scratch on their profile. Beats me. Do casinos shut down because they are unsustainable? No. There is a reason the model is profitable. They have a HOUSE EDGE. You take a cut AND create an unsustainable model. As soon as the ponzi doesn't get new investments, YOU RUN and close up shop. Don't compare ponzis to any other type of gamble. There is a reason they are illegal. No, we don't close up shop, we start a new round. And again (100th time) we state that people at the bottom lose, we don't run we just start a new round. Lol, are you retarded or just plain stupid? I'm starting to feel sorry for you, I feel like I'm spoon feeding you this information like a toddler. You will close up shop as soon as no one invests in your scam. Time will show I am right. Let's see where you stand at this time next week. Usually when someone results to insults (poor ones btw), they are on the defensive about their actions. But there is no reason for us to close shop. Even if there is one or two deposits in a round we still make profit. When the round ends, the final balance is the owners as we've stated on site and on the forum countless times. And no, I result to the truth. Because I am literally spoon feeding you what can already be read on our thread, on our site or anywhere that has our name in it. Great. You write some stuff in your thread that I don't agree with. Is that understandable to you? Eventually, you won't even get those one or two deposits and you will be finished. That is the real truth. Given by your trust rating, I see that many people agree with me as well. |
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Shouldn't these ponzis be moved to games and rounds?
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Ponzis should definitely have its own board, but there is also a problem with that. If it has its own board it encourages more of these and people with their fake sites will be scamming people there with ease. On the other hand it will separate real gambling threads from the ponzi schemes, and while ponzis are gambling sites they work in a different way.
It won't encourage people after they lose their BTC savings. These aren't even a gamble as the operators are the only sure winners. I guarantee if there was a board with only ponzis. It would be dead after two days. My program has stated TIME and TIME again that it is a gamble. Operators of any site are sure winners. I haven't seen on dice site bust, because they've all got house edges JUST LIKE we take fees from every transaction. We state you can lose your money, if people are so blind that they can't see our bold writing then I can't take the fall for that. I disagree. Ponzi's are the same as Casino's. If you make a ponzi section then you're going to have to make a Dice section or a Poker section as well as it is a type of gamble. Games run differently and just because Ponzi's are just starting to become an honest gamble, you can't exclude them from the Gambling section. Sure some sites will have bad intentions JUST LIKE MOST DICE SITES who run with investor money like Dicebitco.in...but this happens everywhere. I have no idea why everyone is so against a ponzi game that is honest about being one, and then HYIP's that claim to invest money don't receive a scratch on their profile. Beats me. Do casinos shut down because they are unsustainable? No. There is a reason the model is profitable. They have a HOUSE EDGE. You take a cut AND create an unsustainable model. As soon as the ponzi doesn't get new investments, YOU RUN and close up shop. Don't compare ponzis to any other type of gamble. There is a reason they are illegal. No, we don't close up shop, we start a new round. And again (100th time) we state that people at the bottom lose, we don't run we just start a new round. Lol, are you retarded or just plain stupid? I'm starting to feel sorry for you, I feel like I'm spoon feeding you this information like a toddler. You will close up shop as soon as no one invests in your scam. Time will show I am right. Let's see where you stand at this time next week. Usually when someone results to insults (poor ones btw), they are on the defensive about their actions. |
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Every account has a place in their profile for a BTC address, and many people have something in their signature that mentions they can send tips to a certain address if they liked their post.
As it was mentioned above, there is no real need to integrate a 3rd party app for any bitcoin payment, tipping included
There's likely 'no real need' for many things but it is a nice addition. How many people will actually boot up their wallet to copy and paste an address and send a tip here? A third party application just makes it more convenient and a bit of fun, not to mention you'll actually know where the money came from. I think it can also act as a nice 'plus 1' feature but one where people can actually reward with something of worth to show their appreciation. There are a lot of people on the forum that strongly believe that you should always 100% control the private keys to your bitcoin. Any tipping feature that is "on forum" would obviously not allow that. Some people could leave a tab open for their blockchain.info wallet, or could leave multibit open all the time. I really don't think copying and pasting an address is that big of a deal to someone when they care enough to be giving away money. The tipping would just be for novelty. The reason it is popular on reddit is because it introduced people to Bitcoin that had never heard of it before. Everyone on this forum has heard about it so not much point. I could see some uses for it in the Gambling section for games and sports picks though. |
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But you can't stop from answering them. Get that post count up. Only accomplishment you'll have in this lifetime. Yawn. I guess I enjoy watching you continually make a fool out of yourself but ignoring children who continually spout nonsense isn't one of my virtues I guess. You see, this is where you're wrong again and you only continue to embarrass yourself and prove your puerility and mentality with more irrelevance and ad hominems showing your true intelligence. And I've already done far more than the maximum 400 posts this month so my post count is irrelevant yet again, but we know that's all you've got here (apart from childish insults and attempts at 'burns'), so maybe you should stop getting your post count up with more of these short simplistic off topic replies (which is pretty much your only contribution to this forum) and actually create some posts with worth apart from futilely whining about ponzis and post counts. Feel free to answer my original points whenever instead of detracting to other smarter people to answer them for you. I know you can't comprehend my words very well but I've told you several times to create a new thread if you honestly think you're the first genius to come up with an unrefutable argument here (you haven't and if you think you have I truly feel sorry for you), but I have said multiple times before both I and others will shoot your arguments down so not really 'detracting' (I think you meant deflecting), but I suspect you don't want to because you know you will only embarrass yourself. Again, make a new thread and you will get many replies including mine. I don't particularly want to type up an argument to your run-of-the-mill ignorant claims as I've done so many a time before, so you'll be vaguely annoying me if you do, but it looks like you know you haven't got a watertight case so you'll just likely continue to pad your post count up in here making off topic posts and hoping to avoid actually putting any effort into them. *Expects nothing but an irrelevant childish insult back*. TL;DR: Sand in my pussy. Too much time sitting in front of a computer makes it itchy. I'm not gonna answer easy questions and instead insult intelligence. Also, get that post count up. Only achievement you'll see in this lifetime. |
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Ughh. Dude looks like a total creep. This is the type of people you're donating your BTC to when you "invest" in a ponzi |
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Ponzis should definitely have its own board, but there is also a problem with that. If it has its own board it encourages more of these and people with their fake sites will be scamming people there with ease. On the other hand it will separate real gambling threads from the ponzi schemes, and while ponzis are gambling sites they work in a different way.
It won't encourage people after they lose their BTC savings. These aren't even a gamble as the operators are the only sure winners. I guarantee if there was a board with only ponzis. It would be dead after two days. My program has stated TIME and TIME again that it is a gamble. Operators of any site are sure winners. I haven't seen on dice site bust, because they've all got house edges JUST LIKE we take fees from every transaction. We state you can lose your money, if people are so blind that they can't see our bold writing then I can't take the fall for that. I disagree. Ponzi's are the same as Casino's. If you make a ponzi section then you're going to have to make a Dice section or a Poker section as well as it is a type of gamble. Games run differently and just because Ponzi's are just starting to become an honest gamble, you can't exclude them from the Gambling section. Sure some sites will have bad intentions JUST LIKE MOST DICE SITES who run with investor money like Dicebitco.in...but this happens everywhere. I have no idea why everyone is so against a ponzi game that is honest about being one, and then HYIP's that claim to invest money don't receive a scratch on their profile. Beats me. Do casinos shut down because they are unsustainable? No. There is a reason the model is profitable. They have a HOUSE EDGE. You take a cut AND create an unsustainable model. As soon as the ponzi doesn't get new investments, YOU RUN and close up shop. Don't compare ponzis to any other type of gamble. There is a reason they are illegal. |
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