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5101  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Macron to deploy French army against yellow vest protests on: March 27, 2019, 01:45:55 PM
The police union is composed of the police, hence they will tend to have the same goals... not sure what your point is. I just find it asinine that you believe all these things:

"Now is France a dictatorship? Sure thing.
Is Macron an asshole feeling that he's a king in his country? Sure thing.
Am I happy to see the people trying to fight that? Sure thing.

Are the people failing to revolt and are the protests dying? Sadly yes."

and yet you still are not willing to accept that your government is lying to you. This is the crux of these issues world wide. You see all the corruption, but then you turn right around, pull down your pants, and bend over again and again for the same people who are responsible never once seeing the connection between the two.

Oh no don't worry I believe this strongly! We've seen... Terrible things last years under Macron. True mafia at work. They don't even hide it anymore.

I just want to say that on those 2 subjects they don't have to lie because sadly the protests are dying and they don't even have to use the soldiers directly.


And contrary to tons of people, I haven't bent over and voted Macron. I don't like extreme conservatives and I think protectionnists are wrong, but they certainly can't be worse than those globalists. Nothing can be worse than that.

I wish both extremists understood that their common ennemy is worse that their opposite extreme. Globalists and banks are worse than pretty much anything. Better Le Pen than Macron, better Trump than Hillary. But also better Melanchon than Macron and better Senders than Hillary. See what I mean?

I think again you are missing my point. Why do you believe a single syllable from the mouths of these people? You have agreed they have clearly established themselves as having no reputability regarding the common wealth of the people of France, yet you are still willing to accept their statistics and their "pinky promise" to not use the troops directly on the protestors. Misdirection and disinformation is a primary if not THE primary strategy of warfare, and whether you are willing to admit it or not, war is what you have there, albeit in the earliest stages. Combine this with the roll out of European internet censorship, and you should be able to feel the rope around your neck tightening with a little critical thought. The idea that they have no reason to lie and do not fear a populist revolt is absurd, it is the ONE THING these people do fear, a unified revolt. You even acknowledge their divide and conquer strategy. Why would they use this if it was not something for them to fear? I am of the opinion that you are being carefully lulled into a false sense of security before the floor drops out and there are much harder choices to make.
5102  Other / Politics & Society / New York State Rockland County Bans Unvaccinted Kids From All Public Places on: March 27, 2019, 01:27:21 PM
Is everyone starting to see the pattern here? Do you really think the government cares this much about your health? This is not about vaccines, this is about control and stripping the rights of ALL OF US.

PROBLEM - REACTION - SOLUTION  = THESIS - ANTITHESIS - SYNTHESIS  =  CHAOS - FEAR - SUMBISSION

https://www.zerohedge.com/news/2019-03-27/ny-county-bans-unvaccinated-kids-all-public-places
5103  Economy / Goods / Re: [WTS] My Sole For Bitcoins on: March 27, 2019, 10:52:15 AM
Can it play Crossroad Blues on the guitar?

Sure, if you can learn to use it as a guitar pick.
5104  Other / Politics & Society / Re: On the importance for nazis, commies and all extremists to stop fighting on: March 27, 2019, 10:45:10 AM
While your finger is on the crux of the issue, the division of the populace (divide and conquer), I still think you have not looked critically enough at the ideologies you espouse to realize many of the problems you list here are a direct result of these ideologies. This whole concept of the "rise of the right" is really just a reaction to the excesses of the left. Right wing extremists were well into the minority pretty much world wide until the left shifted The Overton Window so far to the left that formerly classic liberals are suddenly lumped in with the "far right". This right wing populist movement WAS CREATED by the excesses of the left. Now that people are finally standing their ground, the left wail and gnash their teeth over what they see as a right wing takeover, when they are simply attempting to correct an obviously failing course.

A good analogy I think most people here would understand.... think about the value of Bitcoin. When the exchange rate goes up is Bitcoin really raising in value? No, what is actually happening is that trust in the classic banking system and fiat money is failing, as a result people are willing to pay more dollars for the same amount of Bitcoin. Bitcoin in this case is a store of value mush as gold is, and as the currencies inflate and lose buying power, Bitcoin and gold maintain the buying power it had. This inversion of logic, inverting and conflating the context with the subject is at the crux of these issues.

Again, I agree that this divide and conquer strategy must be stopped at all costs, and this is exactly the strategy the corrupt elite have been undertaking to make sure we are fighting each other and not them, but one of these groups has institutional power, and the other doesn't. I find it hard to blame those with the boot of these institutions on their throats for simply fighting to survive.
5105  Economy / Scam Accusations / Re: PBJ is trying to sell a method that makes unlimited gold at home. (Seriously.) on: March 27, 2019, 09:52:41 AM
I agree, this is a case of ignorance not one of fraud. I have seen these moonbats before, he is not the only one unfortunately.
5106  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Macron to deploy French army against yellow vest protests on: March 27, 2019, 09:47:16 AM
The police have inherent interest to play down the size of the protest in order to attempt to get the protestors to give up and go home. This is not a complicated concept. This would best serve the police and the government.
Yeah confusing the police union and the police is completely ok  Roll Eyes
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Is it because you can't read French? It is perfectly ok if that's the case and I understand that there can be misunderstandings because most sources are in French.

Soldiers will replace normal police forces on official buildings surveillance, buildings that are not on the path of the protests. Then those policemen will be able to go help their colleagues to suppress the protest. Those soldiers have been patrolling and guarding buildings since the begining of terrorist strikes in Europe.

Now of course it's completely unnacceptable that government is using full police forces to suppress it's own population and the use of soldiers will tend to limit the outbreaks of the protest (because there will be soldiers around the protest, far away but all around). It's completely dictatorial to see government putting soldiers not far away from its own population, saying "now try to revolt you peasants".

I just want you to stop giving misleading informations, the army isn't used against yellow vests, or at least not directly. Soldiers are used as a far away threat and to be sure Macron can put all the police forces in the battle.

But he's not sending soldiers against the population. Yet.


Now is France a dictatorship? Sure thing.
Is Macron an asshole feeling that he's a king in his country? Sure thing.
Am I happy to see the people trying to fight that? Sure thing.

Are the people failing to revolt and are the protests dying? Sadly yes.

We're in the same side here I believe, as incredible as it can be. But I just want to state what's really happening not what I would like to see hapenning Smiley

And if you have an idea on how to shake this up I'm all ears.

The police union is composed of the police, hence they will tend to have the same goals... not sure what your point is. I just find it asinine that you believe all these things:

"Now is France a dictatorship? Sure thing.
Is Macron an asshole feeling that he's a king in his country? Sure thing.
Am I happy to see the people trying to fight that? Sure thing.

Are the people failing to revolt and are the protests dying? Sadly yes."

and yet you still are not willing to accept that your government is lying to you. This is the crux of these issues world wide. You see all the corruption, but then you turn right around, pull down your pants, and bend over again and again for the same people who are responsible never once seeing the connection between the two.
5107  Other / Meta / Re: Prompt for forum rules. on: March 27, 2019, 07:41:10 AM
I guess Theymos do not want to provide  rules because he believes more in discretion then some written rules.
I guess he is afraid that people will find loopholes in written rules and try to beat them.

From what he has said, this seems to be the case. Personally I think this is short sighted and simply making the user base suffer arbitrary enforcement of unwritten rules just so he doesn't have to personally suffer the moral conflict of some times operating outside of those rules because it is best for the forum. IMO we need clear rules IF ONLY so users who wish to follow them know what they are agreeing to.

If some one finds a loophole and staff have to operate outside of those rules, as long as they can explain it and it is legitimately best for the forum I don't think there will be any issues. Additionally nothing is stopping the rules from being updated. In summary, expecting people to adhere to an agreement of which they were never given the terms of is asinine and will only result in way more conflict than is necessary.
5108  Other / Politics & Society / Re: How do you guys feel about the Boeing 737 MAX? on: March 27, 2019, 07:30:56 AM
I am not a pilot or any expert on this situation, but I have had interest in this issue considering the close proximity of the Boeing headquarters to me. Apparently there was an "optional safety feature" which would automatically cause the plane to correct course by nosing down, and if the pilot did not have the correct training they could be stuck in a very dangerous situation without knowing how to resolve the problem, as has been the case several times. Other pilots who did know the systems still found difficulty coping with this "feature", but because of their training were at least able to land safely.

As far as I am aware this has been something pilots have been warning about for some time. On a speculative note, I have a feeling there may have been some sabotage/espionage involved here, as there are a lot of HUGE contracts on the table right now where Boeing and Airbus are in tight competition for orders, and as you can imagine those contracts are worth tremendous amounts of money. In summary, regardless of what is the direct cause, this is very bad news for Boeing.
5109  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Packing the Supreme Court is an attack on Democracy on: March 27, 2019, 12:38:45 AM
The left won't be happy until they destroy the trust of all of our institutions and start a civil war. The problem is they are too dumb to realize that is where they are headed before it is too late, and by then they will have already made themselves marks so they will feel as if they have no choice but to continue.
5110  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Why The Hell People Aren't Helping? on: March 27, 2019, 12:05:30 AM
There are a lot of poor people in the world, and simply putting out your hand is not enough now days. You have to demonstrate exactly how the money will be used to produce positive results. One way to do this is to create some kind of for profit enterprise that donates a certain percentage of the income to your charity. One concept I was thinking of the other day that might help you get your project off the ground is to create a signature campaign. People could use the signatures voluntarily as a sort of donation, or you could use a separate fund to pay out users to wear your signatures that people could donate to. You could focus on signing up people from the nations you are trying to help. You could for example also get payments from people with smaller websites or services that wish to advertise through your program who would otherwise see a whole campaign signature program as overkill. With this extra exposure you should be able to get more people active in your program.
5111  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Jussie Smollett now ‘classified as a suspect’ for filing false police report. on: March 26, 2019, 11:51:05 PM
Jussie Smollet just had all charges dropped. Some one just turned states evidence. Bigger fish are about to fry.
He has the intelligence of a monkey. Go back and look at his story and remember that he actually thought others would believe him.

I cannot imagine him having information that could possibly be useful and if he does, I cannot imagine him being able to document the information so that it would actually be useful (no sane prosecutor is going to base their case on his word).

My suspicion is Michelle Obama got involved.

Exactly, he has the intelligence and malleability of a brain dead person making him the perfect political puppet to take huge personal risks to sell this narrative. Lets not forget that Kamala Harris introduced her "anti-lynching" bill the week that this happened. There are also people suggesting that Harris and Smollett are related, among other shady activities and personalities involved. I would speculate that they probably have some form of documentation to back up the complicity of these other higher level individuals along with any states evidence testimony he has/will give. Besides the local charges, just based on the charges of terrorist threats alone he could go away for a VERY long time. That kind of time has a way of making people very cooperative.
5112  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Jussie Smollett now ‘classified as a suspect’ for filing false police report. on: March 26, 2019, 06:49:08 PM
Jussie Smollet just had all charges dropped. Some one just turned states evidence. Bigger fish are about to fry.

Much more likely is "the Chicago way."

Not this time. Too many people want his head. I have been looking into this case and some high level people are possibly involved. Additionally he could still be brought up on federal terrorism charges very easily. If he is not brought up on those charges he most definitely did turn states evidence.
5113  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Macron to deploy French army against yellow vest protests on: March 26, 2019, 05:36:59 PM
You mean police union numbers? There is no motivation for them to lie  either right?

Nope there is no motivation for them to lie, if there is any motivation to lie it's to increase the number.

What's the goal of a police union?

-Obtain better treatments for policemen
-Obtain more ressources, better equipment and better conditions for police forces
-Obtain more money for policemen

They are always in conflict with government because of that. What is better for them?
-To give the vision of small protests that can be more easily taken care of, taking the risk to show how innefficient police is if they don't manage to take care of it
-To increase the number or give a fair number of protests so that they can negotiate with government to get more ressources and better treatments as they have extra work. Plus obtain from government ot have more lenient conditions as the policemen are under so much pressure.

I don't know what unions look like in your countries but in France union = trying to defend the workers. Here the workers are policemen and boss is the government so there is no reason to defend the view of the government...


And if you believe that soldiers have been used to suppress protests, you're even more guillible than what I thought. What do you think? That saturday we had the French army marching on the protests?

Edit: the most stupid thing is that the numbers in themselves are irrelevant, we're talking about their EVOLUTION not about their absolute value.

The police have inherent interest to play down the size of the protest in order to attempt to get the protestors to give up and go home. This is not a complicated concept. This would best serve the police and the government.


https://www.lemonde.fr/police-justice/article/2019/03/20/les-militaires-de-sentinelle-seront-mobilises-pour-l-acte-xix-des-gilets-jaunes_5438862_1653578.html

Sure looks like they deployed the military to suppress the protest to me...
5114  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Jussie Smollett now ‘classified as a suspect’ for filing false police report. on: March 26, 2019, 05:29:38 PM
Jussie Smollet just had all charges dropped. Some one just turned states evidence. Bigger fish are about to fry.
5115  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Macron to deploy French army against yellow vest protests on: March 26, 2019, 01:02:06 PM
Can't do anything against such bad faith.

Keep your beliefs that currently French are in revolution and Macron sent the army in.

Continue to deny reality.

Already sent you union's numbers. You refused them.

You mean police union numbers? There is no motivation for them to lie  either right?
5116  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Macron to deploy French army against yellow vest protests on: March 26, 2019, 11:08:14 AM
So you are really doubling down and arguing that Macron is calling in the military to stop already dying protests? If that was the truth, wouldn't that actually be something that could make the protests WORSE? I am very truly sorry you lack basic abilities for critical thought and are so totally ignorant of the happenings going on around you in your own nation.
First Macron is NOT calling the military to stop the protests, stop spreading lies.
Second, Macron is using the military to be able to use all the police of Paris to completely block and finish the protests. He couldn't do that 3 months earlier because the number of policemen wasn't high enough to suppress 200k people. But they successfully did for 40k. No damage this Saturday.
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Your link says nothing about the source of your numbers. Additionally you have tried to source these numbers before, and they were all from either the police or the government, both which have a direct vested interest in downplaying the protests. It is time for all little boys and girls to put on their big boy/girl pants and take a good hard look at what is going on around you instead of just parroting what the media tells you. You have to earn the truth, lies are distributed freely for all. Go earn it little boy.

No. You're confusing Unions and police I'm very sorry for your brain.
I've given you about 6 different sources and you refused them all for very various reasons. Because you don't care for facts.

https://www.lexpress.fr/actualite/societe/gilets-jaunes-des-tensions-a-nice-montpellier-lyon-et-toulouse_2069048.html
http://www.francesoir.fr/politique-france/quel-est-le-nombre-de-manifestants-gilets-jaunes-pour-cet-acte-14
https://www.europe1.fr/societe/gilets-jaunes-39300-manifestants-samedi-en-france-dont-4000-a-paris-3866825
https://actu.orange.fr/france/gilets-jaunes-39-300-manifestants-samedi-en-france-dont-4-000-a-paris-CNT000001dpNKe.html
https://www.lemonde.fr/societe/article/2019/03/02/gilets-jaunes-plusieurs-milliers-de-manifestants-pour-l-acte-xvi_5430620_3224.html

I can give you hundreds of those but you simply refuse them without any reason.

And most of all, you're denying the field experience. I was there in December. I was there two weeks ago. The protests are completely dead compared to what they were.

3 months ago, we blocked more than 40 roads inside Paris, 10 different subway station (central ones).

Last protest there was 2 roads blocked and one station.

3 months ago, the damages done were in millions every week

Last protest nothing got destroyed at all.

3 mlonths ago there was 400 arrests every week and more thatn 300 policemen hurt

Last protest 20 arrests and one policeman had an heart attack



You deny reality, that's your problem. It doesn't change reality.

I see, so he says that is what they are for, and Macron is trustworthy right? Obviously he is so trustworthy these people are all calling for his removal, he wouldn't lie to the people who want him removed right? I looked through each of your sources and I don't even see any mention of unions. I do however in every one of your sources see the numbers referenced by The Ministry of Interior, and again the government has vested interest in downplaying the real numbers.

https://www.lexpress.fr/actualite/societe/gilets-jaunes-des-tensions-a-nice-montpellier-lyon-et-toulouse_2069048.html

"the Minister of the Interior announced the assessment of 40,500 demonstrators yellow vests throughout France, including 5000 in Paris."


http://www.francesoir.fr/politique-france/quel-est-le-nombre-de-manifestants-gilets-jaunes-pour-cet-acte-14

"However, the figures circulating in the media remain those of the Ministry of the Interior since the yellow vests do not officially communicate any number, need a centralized counting system. For this Saturday, 16, the Ministry of the Interior announced that at 14h, the number of demonstrators identified was 10,200. A figure down from last week (12,100). In Paris, the event gathered 3,000 people, according to official figures that must remain questionable. The police prefecture also added that 16 people were arrested at 17h.

On social networks, government estimates are widely defeated and challenged. On one of the Facebook pages entitled "The yellow number" ( see here ), sympathizers of the movement propose to count the number of demonstrators by trying in particular to trace information from the field, including in small towns where movements do not bring together a few dozen people. And the numbers are very different from those of the Ministry of the Interior. For Act 13 on Saturday, February 9, the Facebook page estimated that the number of demonstrators amounted to at least 118,222 yellow vests, listed in 215 municipalities. That is almost ten times the number of the Ministry of the Interior."


https://www.europe1.fr/societe/gilets-jaunes-39300-manifestants-samedi-en-france-dont-4000-a-paris-3866825

"The "yellow vests" were 39,300 to parade throughout France, according to the Ministry of the Interior."


https://actu.orange.fr/france/gilets-jaunes-39-300-manifestants-samedi-en-france-dont-4-000-a-paris-CNT000001dpNKe.html

"About 39,300 "yellow vests" have demonstrated throughout France, including 4,000 in Paris, according to the figures of the Ministry of the Interior provided at the end of the sixteenth Saturday of mobilization of this social movement, marked by some clashes in the regions."


https://www.lemonde.fr/societe/article/2019/03/02/gilets-jaunes-plusieurs-milliers-de-manifestants-pour-l-acte-xvi_5430620_3224.html

"According to the Ministry of the Interior, there were some 39,300 in France, including 4,000 in Paris."

So as you can see all of your sources are getting their numbers from the same place with the same incentive to lie about it. Also your own sources note the actual number is under dispute. Additionally they do in fact confirm the military has been deployed to deal with the yellow vest protests

https://www.lemonde.fr/police-justice/article/2019/03/20/les-militaires-de-sentinelle-seront-mobilises-pour-l-acte-xix-des-gilets-jaunes_5438862_1653578.html

In summary, what I said was accurate, and your conclusions are based on flawed information. Also your presence on 2 occasions is irrelevant because not only does that not represent the entire national turn out, I highly doubt you spent the time to count, even if you could figure out how to count that high.
5117  Other / Politics & Society / Re: New Zealand ChristChurch mass shootings >:( >:( on: March 26, 2019, 06:21:27 AM
I left you a merit because you are obviously in desperate need of validation.

How funny that I was drawn here by your (censored) obvious and desperate need for validation.  Smiley
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5103785.msg50314684#msg50314684

On topic: Can anyone provide any other global solution other than waiting for religion to die?

Well we could try giving more, bigger guns to more crazy extremists and see how that plays out.

I'm just not on board with the idea that gun control = government tyranny and loss of liberty. The U.S. military could crush any militia no matter how well armed. I think Waco and the handful of other militia-led incidents in the past 30 years pretty much proved this. But as mentioned earlier, I strongly believe this isn't going to effect U.S. gun laws, largely because of the NRA. There's no such equivalent in New Zealand. Regardless, New Zealand still has a comparatively large proportion of gun owners; nobody's taking their guns away either, they're just saying you can't have the really big and fast guns. Seems smart IMHO.

No one is advocating "giving more, bigger guns to more crazy extremists", and this statement is indicative of your unwillingness to have a legitimate debate over this subject. While this is about much more than just preventing government tyranny, lets address that point.

"The U.S. military could crush any militia no matter how well armed."

First of all, using the US military against the domestic population is generally not legal, but lets ignore that fact and break down what may theoretically happen, and what has happened historically. Generally speaking "crushing" an uprising of domestic population is not going to be popular among the military, nor would it be productive in quelling such an uprising as once the people see this, the government makes its intentions of murdering dissidents clear which will result in even more resistance nationally. This tired argument is often made by people who do not understand anything about the logistics of the military, their oaths, or their training.

The fact is you don't occupy land with tanks, jets, and nukes. You occupy land with soldiers, and soldiers are not bullet proof. Furthermore that hardware requires logistical supply lines which again rely on people on the ground. Also nuking ones own population would be quite counterproductive considering the goal of tyranny is usually to control more resources, and laying waste to those resources is contradicted. Additionally wars like have been happening in Afghanistan show you exactly how long people with small arms can hold off the most advanced military in the world.

Short of full on warfare there have been many examples of people preserving their freedoms against a tyrannical government such as "The Battle of Athens" in 1946 in Athens Tennessee where the local population stood up against the corrupt local government to prevent vote fraud. Other more recent examples are the standoff at The Bundy ranch, and at the occupation of the Malheur National Wildlife Refuge. Giving a corrupt government force the choice between having to resort to violence to gain control in of itself is a method of maintaining freedom because it forces those involved to be DAMN SURE they are in the right, or else they will be the ones in a box or a cage after it all gets settled. This is what is known as deterrent effect, and it is not easily quantified resulting in it being dismissed by casual observers such as yourself.

Waco was a mass execution, and the charges which brought them there to begin with were based on fraud. Of course I don't expect you to know any of this being the casual tourist to these topics that you are. Even this is a perfect example of what results when the corrupt forces make the choice of murder over backing down, and the world witnessed this holocaust, took note, and made preparations for further tyranny. Again, this is just addressing the SINGLE ISSUE of government tyranny, not even touching on the right to self defense, national defense, criminal deterrence, etc.

Unfortunately these events are being used to systematically take rights of self defense and free speech by playing off the manipulations of fearful simpletons such as yourself reacting in a knee jerk response with little to no critical thought. You might have strong beliefs, but if they are based on your emotions they don't count for much. Additionally I find it convenient you simultaneously are pro-gun control while you spout about your beliefs as if what you believe is not skewed by your bias. Excuse me if I don't really give a shit about your poorly informed belief system.
5118  Economy / Invites & Accounts / Re: **[HOT SALE]** Amazon Account With $1500 Balance! Buy Anything At Amazon Worth $ on: March 26, 2019, 04:39:31 AM
How was this balance obtained?
5119  Other / Politics & Society / Re: New Zealand ChristChurch mass shootings >:( >:( on: March 25, 2019, 09:29:03 PM
I'm not trying to "argue" with you. I just wanted to know if you believe Sandy Hook actually happened or not.

Why is techy trying to censor your question?

No doubt he will now report this post in an attempt to censor me.  Sad

On Topic:   Religion causes violence.   Ignorance causes Religion.  We need to spend more on education, not military.

I left you a merit because you are obviously in desperate need of validation.
5120  Other / Politics & Society / Re: #breaking Michael Avenatti arrested (report) again on: March 25, 2019, 08:46:30 PM
https://www.cnbc.com/2019/03/25/michael-avenatti-to-be-charged-with-wire-and-bank-fraud.html
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