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1221  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: [ANN] InfiniteCoin | IFC | Giveaway on: December 04, 2013, 11:40:33 PM
cool thanks! i8X4sq9qQPtm6GUZwjWbCDUyRcfGkBCfRk
1222  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: [BOUNTY] Announcements for Nxt (the first pure POS coin) on: December 04, 2013, 10:44:15 PM
Here is my candidate for the general article or whitepaper (please verify my statement on the genesis block in item #4 of the list):

What is NXT?

Nxt is considered a 2nd generation crypto currency.  With all the alt coins coming out that only change things such as hashing mechanism, time between blocks, starting difficulty, and so on, Nxt brings much much more to the table and was designated this way for a number of reasons:

1.  It is not an "alt coin" like coins such as litecoin, peercoin, and others who have their code based on Bitcoin's source code.  It is brand new from scratch with its own code.

2. It provides built in support for planned extra features such as a decentralized peer-peer exchange, colored coins, messaging/chat, decentralized DNS, and options for instant transactions.  We will describe these advanced features later in this article.

3. It is a 100% proof of stake versus the proof of work mechanism the vast majority of other coins are based on.  This effectively removes a large security risk inherent in most other coins, as now the issue of a 51% attack or other vulnerabilities inherent to PoW coins are now gone.  The biggest plus here is how green this protocol is (not a reference to colored coins) in power consumption, since PoS doesn’t require massive amounts of hashing power

4. It was announced weeks in advance, unlike mere hours like most coins.  The 71 stakeholders are responsible for distributing the 1 billion Nxt coins that were ejected from the genesis block via an injection of bitcoin (donated by them, 21 BTC total) into the genesis block.  This is a requirement for this PoS system to work and this distribution is now in progress.  Nxt is listed on http://coinmarketcap.com/ and people are trading on a 1on1 basis in the forums as well as on a temporary (centralized) exchange http://www.dgex.com.

Let's get into the first planned feature, a decentralized exchange.  How do we currently trade coins now?  Well you have to sign up for an account on a centralized platform such as Cryptsy/BTC-E/Bter/etc, transfer them your coins and pay them for transactions. This brings in a large concern that I personally have yet to be seen brought to light, in that it’s possible that the exchange could just bail with everyone's deposits.  This has actually already happened when the Sheep Marketplace did just that with 96,000 bitcoins, ending up as the largest theft in history.  The developers of NxT (BCNxt and his crew) are developing a peer-peer exchange into the software to allow for decentralized trading which will eliminate this trust point.  It will also eliminate trading fees!  Obviously this is all still completely secure and anonymous as are current bitcoin transactions.

But let’s not stop there.  If you can have a decentralized exchange based on the peer-peer model then what else is possible?  Well, quite a bit as it turns out; the developers are also building in a decentralized DNS system to compete with namecoin.  Also in the future we can expect messaging and chat systems that, like the p2p exchange, will also be completely secure and anonymous.  Think of what this will allow:  Completely anonymous websites, AND anonymous payments, to go with an anonymous support system in the chat/messaging feature, all 100% secure, encrypted, and irreversible.

Nxt (pun intended) is one of the more curious services: colored coins.  To understand the concept of colored coins requires a fairly deep view into bitcoin transactions that most people aren’t aware of.  With bitcoin, each transaction's output hashed address is based on a previous receiving address that originally received that coin.  So with the blockchain, a set of bitcoin transactions can be traced.  Not to a person mind you, but what is meant is that an individual coin or pieces of that coin can be traced back on a transaction by transaction basis.  Since this is a case, then if it was possible to expand the protocol to allow a person to designate or "color" a particular coin, then we can build a bridge from the virtual crypto currency world to the physical world.  In effect that coin can then be used to represent some physical entity here on earth.  Property, stocks/bonds, commodites, or really any concept that can be concretely identified could be used.  This protocol expansion is exactly what is being built into Nxt’s unique code to allow for the use of colored coins.

Let’s talk about Proof of Stake and green energy.  Everyone knows how bitcoin is based on Proof of Work.  That is there are thousands of miners around the world crunching away at hashes and gobbling up TONS of power.  Now, PoS doesn’t really involve ‘mining’ per se; it’s important to realize that unlike bitcoin, all Nxt that will ever exist already exists, so client wallets now ‘mine’ for transaction fees.  A growing trend is to refer to this as ‘forging’ instead of ‘mining’.  Since this can be done on a client wallet loaded on a PC (CPU mining), it is MUCH more environmentally friendly and power efficient.

Now, on to the nuts and bolts of Nxt’s implementation of PoS.  Its elegantly simple: transaction fees are distributed out proportionally to all users based on the amount of Nxt a client has. (assuming that client is running and unlocked).  So if a client has 1 million Nxt, then they have 1/1000 of a chance of receiving the transaction fee for any transaction.  The math here is 1 million (amount the client has) divided by 1 billion (total Nxt in existence) is 1000, so that is 1/1000 of a chance.

Some extra notes about Nxt:

Nxt is a brain wallet, a very long and secure passphrase MUST be used to generate your account.

As stated, to forge (AKA mine) for transaction fees, your client must be running and unlocked on your machine.

The software is currently java based, and closed source.  Pieces of the code are available for review upon permission of the devs, but the full code will not be released until Jan2014 official launch.

Many people refer to this as 100% pre-mined, but this isn’t really accurate since there *is* no mining, and the PoS system depends on all coins being distributed out.

The Nxt official thread in bitcointalk.org is at https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=345619.0
1223  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: Nxt :: descendant of Bitcoin - Updated Information on: December 04, 2013, 07:41:22 PM
regarding transaction fees, is a > 1 integer required?  what is the long term goal for calculating transactions?
1224  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Service Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN] DGEX.com multicurrency exchange BTC <-> NXT no trading fees on: December 04, 2013, 07:30:59 PM
http://www.dgex.com/ -> is full of shit i deposited my coins 3 days ago and  my balance is still 0
i also tried to contact them via contact form but no reply what so ever , is it only for chosen ones?
i smell fish here

I've deposited NXT 5 hours ago and still nothing. This is a fucking joke.
Only one person works at dgex. He has a lot on his hands. Don't be impatient.

http://www.dgex.com/ -> is full of shit i deposited my coins 3 days ago and  my balance is still 0
i also tried to contact them via contact form but no reply what so ever , is it only for chosen ones?
i smell fish here

I've deposited NXT 5 hours ago and still nothing. This is a fucking joke.

You need to be more respectful and thankful theirs even a place to trade NXT instead of 1:1 which is a lot riskier.

not only that, but there are no trading fees.  just fees to export your bitcoin whenever you are all done
1225  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: Nxt :: descendant of Bitcoin - Updated Information on: December 04, 2013, 07:11:35 PM
I remember DGEX used to be one of first who offered Freicoin exchange back in january. That is one long scam going on  Roll Eyes

Seriously that guy did 'research' but failed to notice creator is paranoid about privacy as hell in very second post about nxt on original thread.

Also, trying to create panic sells with that thread title. He sure is buying...

panic sells thread title?  where pelase?
1226  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: Attention NXT Stakeholders/Investors on: December 04, 2013, 06:57:45 PM
I think it is a bad idea to fragment the Nxt community.

As BNCnext says:
Why do we need a domain?  Bitcointalk.org is enough.

+1 it's better to open here a sub forum, since NXT is a descendant of BTC not an altcoin...

I wouldnt say that.  altcoins are much more closely related to BTC than NXT is.  Besides, this board doesnt offer any specific altcoin forums.  IMO having a special area does help a bit, instead of clogging this one alt board up with tons of NXT threads we have quite a bit of discourse going on over there.  But it is a better idea to keep the main client thread on BCT.org open for expssoures sake.  Im a volunteer nextcoin.org forums moderator completely unassociated with the owner or dgex, Im not even a stakeholder; I just bought some with some BTC and see a way I can contribute.

While the owner of nxtcoin.org has advertised that it is the offical forum, well... I dont know.  They are voting on logo/coin graphics and having the nxt vs next and coin vs no 'coin' and such but IMO the NXT owner and devs should make the call on what is official or not, and they seem to be extremely busy with the client.
1227  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Has there ever been a coin geard to neutrality? (FRK doesnt count) on: December 04, 2013, 02:33:19 PM
By neutrality, I mean NOT designed for the benefit of the designer or early adopters? This coin would have the following features:

0. absolutely no premining
1. More than 2 days notification
2. starting difficulty fairly high
3. distribution of the coin such that most coins are not granted in the first few months
4. large number of coins
5. very fast notifications
6. non GPU/ASIC/FPGA minable

Something like that would IMO be flocked to
1228  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: To Kill Gldcoin or Not? on: December 04, 2013, 04:05:03 AM
test it on bitcoin
1229  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: Nextcoin.org forums - Dedicated to NXT on: December 03, 2013, 07:31:05 PM
I agree that everyone should move to nextcoin.org for NXT discussion, except I do believe its best to keep the main client thread going here in Alt on BCT.org for exposure's sake
1230  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: NxTalk.org - secure Nxt forum - we've launched giveaways! on: December 03, 2013, 04:09:30 PM
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1231  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: Nxt :: descendant of Bitcoin - Updated Information on: December 03, 2013, 12:59:24 AM
Take note of megacoin
I'm sure everyone noticed the $0.012 to nearly $2 recent jump in 2weeks.  Yes thats 150x.  Look at their website and ANN thread in bitcointalk.org. nothing revolutionary about this coin at all. All marketing. Different languages etc

Take note take heed
1232  Other / Beginners & Help / Re: cryptsy on: December 03, 2013, 12:32:15 AM
Well you didn't really answer my question. I've already done a few buy and sell trades but don't understand how they are matched up?  Why can I not just accept terms of an open proposal?  Why must I creates a whole new offer?  Its obvious that from the few trades that I've done that SOMEONE accepted it.  How did they do that?
1233  Other / Beginners & Help / cryptsy on: December 02, 2013, 11:58:05 PM
How do you use this?  How can I click on an open buy or sell offer and agree to it and execute?  It seeems lie I just have to create a new offer each time?  How are other people accepting my offers?

And do both buyer and seller pay fees?
1234  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: Free Devcoin Giveaway for Everyone! Over 100 coins left to give away! on: December 02, 2013, 06:11:22 PM
kick, ASS!  18Sjq43yxxN6KrLjmRe57KZtT47B1V5zbv
thanks!
1235  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: Nxt :: descendant of Bitcoin - Updated Information on: December 02, 2013, 05:33:27 PM
no, I IMed with CfB on this very board, he asked I post the info in this thread...  not a scam, Im a huge supporter of NXT.  sorry to cause any confusion, I would never have posted what I did w/o clearing it, but CfB did ask me to in IM.  Dude Im really confused right now.

It's OK. I just don't want people ask me about something not related to client development and technical issues. I'm just one of the stakeholders. My stake even less than 1%.

I understand.  Like I said, there is a dev hidden section for all ya'll dev behind the scenes stuff.  Hopefully a dedicated forum will allow multiple threads and more even more discourse, this 1 thread here is kinda limiting
1236  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: Nxt :: descendant of Bitcoin - Updated Information on: December 02, 2013, 05:29:05 PM
I have cleared this with CfB and most likely he or his designate will take over.

Hm? I have not even seen this forum yet.
Scam?


no, I IMed with CfB on this very board, he asked I post the info in this thread...  not a scam, Im a huge supporter of NXT.  sorry to cause any confusion, I would never have posted what I did w/o clearing it, but CfB did ask me to in IM.  (but everything was my idea here) Dude Im really confused right now.

Just wanted continuity and an expanded area for NXT discussion.  My goal was to make it happen then hand over the keys to the devs
1237  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: Nxt :: descendant of Bitcoin - Updated Information on: December 02, 2013, 05:17:32 PM
All,  due to all the BCT.org issues this weekend I created a forums site at nxt.freeforums.net in hopes of continuity.  IMO just 1 thread in alt  is just not ideal.  A separate forums site would really allow much more discourse about NXT by allowing multiple threads on different issues.  Please sign up and we can start new threads over there.  I have cleared this with CfB and most likely he or his designate will take over.  I have already created a few different boards there for breaking up the discussion.
1238  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: Nxt :: descendant of Bitcoin - Updated Information on: December 02, 2013, 04:57:57 PM
I donloaded the latest version. Made a .bat for 'java -jar start.jar' but somehow I can't connect to the local host. Am I doing something wrong?

Open http://localhost:7874/nxt and then http://localhost:7875

is it necessary to just attempt to open the 7874 before the 7875?
1239  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: At just $1, QUARK will be #3 on the planet on: December 02, 2013, 03:52:26 PM
All altcoins are going down atm, including quark. Don't know if I should sell or keep them.
Maybe sell half...

yes its dropping,  ill buy more
1240  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / how do you buy ripple on: December 01, 2013, 04:21:48 AM
Anyone know?
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