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341  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Israelis chanting “There’s no school tomorrow, there’s no children left in Gaza" on: July 31, 2014, 04:36:10 PM
Wrong.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fascism
Educate yourself, won't hurt.
While education has no end, and each individual has to seek more knowledge I'm pretty sure I have a decent education and probably more than you'll ever do, but back to the point. and the definition is exactly what the current Israeli regime in control is.

Ehh.
US army committed plenty of war crimes in Iraq, not to mention the millions who have fled when the US invaded Iraq, same as millions of people always flee when there's a war and it's also no secret that american companies took over the oil reserves there "stealing their resources", and let's not forget the huge mess they left there, many times bigger than what the palestinians got now.
But all's good, when it's not Israel it's justified and reasonable.

Also, Israel doesn't systematically kill anyone. If they wanted to wipe the palestinians, they could of already done it 10 times over. That's just how people who hate Israel just because, think.

But hey, when you're a person who just believes whatever he reads on the internet, I don't blame you for being so ignorant. That's why you were so quick to post some hoax involving an Israeli soldier just because you saw a fake instagram post that fitted your agenda.

Again where did I rule out the impossibility of war crimes by the US in Iraq, see here is the biggest difference between you and me, you are claiming things that are totally false and can be proven just by quoting my self from previous comment, and then you dare to claim that I'm ignorant, it's pretty obvious who's the ignorant at this point but lets get back to the real point once again.
The US didn't go to Iraq for free, and the excuse they made about WMD in Iraq was found to be a lie later, and the contracts that US scored in Iraq after the war in the billions, but again comparing Iraq and Palestine is total and plain ignorance (a word you enjoy apparently) .

As for Israel killing systematically Palestinians, well yes they are, they are not killing EVERYONE for the simple reason that they'll have no excuse to give to the international community afterwards, they need to maintain a certain statut quo, but they are killing indiscriminately Palestinians in Gaza and the statistics proves so.

As for the Instagram post, do you have a prove it is fake? you are the one that is being unreasonable here, I had a neutral position on the matter without ruling the possibility of it being fake but you on the other hand decide it's fake from no where, well let me tell you, it was proven, thousands of times that Israelies are capable of such crimes being it extremist in the populations (remember the teen that was burned inside out a few weeks ago?) or IDF (the 8 years old kids that were shelled in the beach in front of the international press, or again the 5-10 yo kids that were shelled in the hospital, I can mentions thousands of examples like this), but for you Israel or it IDF does no bad, they are the defenders of peace.
342  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Israeli sniper braging about killing 13 children just today on instagram on: July 31, 2014, 04:18:17 PM
Not surprised you'd post such bullshit.

Not only is his twitter account is full of moderated posts (contrary to the fake post in the OP), but both instagram accounts that were used are private, how convenient.
https://twitter.com/daviddovadia

But I guess asking from some people to turn their brains on is just to much.

Why think when you can sheep.
How come his tweeter accessible post are limited to last 6hrs with the rest being very scarce tweets? how can you say for sure it is a fake, you have any prove for it being so? Notice how personally I didn't claim it's 100% real without any possibilities of it being fake, but your are here just rulling out it's fake without any proof and you are the one to talk about me posting bullshit?
343  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Israeli sniper braging about killing 13 children just today on instagram on: July 31, 2014, 03:32:17 PM
What so special about that small patch of land, why they are willing to be killed and to kill. Middle east is a big less populated swatches of land why not leave that curse land Israel and transfer to other peaceful place.
No one would accept millions of refugees, and why do they have to leave their own land and it's not like they have an options as Gaza is under siege and anything that wants to move out gets blown to pieces.
Do you seriously believe it? i doubt it's legit.
If it is my opinion you are asking for I can't say 100% it is legit as I have no prove, but I'm just reporting the news which seems to be legit as the profile does exist or did exist till a few mins/hours ago http://instagram.com/daviddovadia# you can still find information in google cache for example. is unbelievable, no there way to much proves that shows such behavious from some IDF soldiers, heck even the civilians does worse things, remember the teenager that was burned both inside out, and outside

Lol just a look at the source. besides being some random blog all of the articles are Gaza-Israel related.

Like said before I didn't copy the article till I check the instagram profil for my self
344  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Israelis chanting “There’s no school tomorrow, there’s no children left in Gaza" on: July 31, 2014, 03:25:41 PM
Problem is,Israel is not a Fasicst state.

No not whole of Israel but it's current leaders and people in control are.
How so? according to this logic the US is also a Nazi state because they bombed Iraqi children.

No, there is a huge difference here and no room in comparison, while there might have been some war crimes by some individuals, the US isn't colonizing and wasn't colonizing Iraq for half a century now while stealing it resources and kicking it people from their land and sieging about 2millions in a land strip while cutting minimum resources, the US didn't go for systematic killing of civilians as Israelies are doing, and wasn't going against international law, UN resolutions and supreme court orders
345  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Israeli sniper braging about killing 13 children just today on instagram on: July 31, 2014, 03:14:20 PM
What so special about that small patch of land, why they are willing to be killed and to kill. Middle east is a big less populated swatches of land why not leave that curse land Israel and transfer to other peaceful place.
No one would accept millions of refugees, and why do they have to leave their own land and it's not like they have an options as Gaza is under siege and anything that wants to move out gets blown to pieces.
Do you seriously believe it? i doubt it's legit.
If it is my opinion you are asking for I can't say 100% it is legit as I have no prove, but I'm just reporting the news which seems to be legit as the profile does exist or did exist till a few mins/hours ago http://instagram.com/daviddovadia# you can still find information in google cache for example. is unbelievable, no there way to much proves that shows such behavious from some IDF soldiers, heck even the civilians does worse things, remember the teenager that was burned both inside out, and outside
346  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Israel's Crazy Doctrine for Justifying Deaths of Over 1,000 Gazans on: July 31, 2014, 03:12:04 PM
1364 declared deaths as we speak; dozens of thousands of wounded, probably will pass the 1400 mark before the end of the day, but again there people that will still defend this genocide.
347  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Is anyone following the Israel & Palestine Situation. on: July 31, 2014, 02:39:16 PM
Israel always the victim… especially when it’s the executioner
http://rt.com/op-edge/176960-israel-gaza-conflict-executioner/

An Op-Edge with Nile Bowie is a political analyst and photographer currently residing in Kuala Lumpur, Malaysia.

There are different strategies invented by the Israelis and this is one of them, you can read all about them from Israeli sources as they described in details. and all this to counter any "peace offensive" (again an Israeli made word that you can find informations on) made by the Palestinian government such as the unity government that was formed by US and EU blessing just before the start of all these attacks.
348  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Israelis chanting “There’s no school tomorrow, there’s no children left in Gaza" on: July 31, 2014, 02:33:30 PM
http://palsolidarity.org/2014/07/video-israelis-in-tel-aviv-chanting-theres-no-school-tomorrow-theres-no-children-left-in-gaza-oleh/

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=h7qFACSfd_k

Killing children and then cheering on their demise. Sickening, twisted, and delusional people.

Don't forget to turn on captions for the video.

Am I supposed to think the whole country is represented by that group of skinheads/hooligans singing?
Sad people, no doubt about it, but Israel is meant to be more civilized than that... even if a huge majority (at both sides) is supporting that war... Damn! :/

Yes they are your typical nazi brainless thugs same that oppressed the Jews in the holocaust, Wake the fuck up!

Jews cant be Nazi,facist maybe,but not Nazi. please learn what Nazism means before talking bullcrap.

On topic:The Palestininans reap what they sow. and vice versa.

Both Nazism and Zionists are fascist ideologies, two sides of the same coin 

No,they arent.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Labor_Zionism

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Zionism
Defenders of Zionism say it is a national liberation movement for the repatriation of a dispersed socio-religious group to what they see as an abandoned homeland millennia before.[5][6][7] Critics of Zionism see it as a colonialist[8] or racist[9] ideology that led to the denial of rights, dispossession and expulsion of the "indigenous population of Palestine".[10][11][12][13]


"Critics"

Still dosent have to do anything with Nazism.
to be fair He never said Zionism has something to do with Nazim of vice-versa, he said they both are fascist ideologies which is quite true when you consider what's happening in Palestine right now, and the whole principals on which Zionism was built upon
349  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Israeli sniper braging about killing 13 children just today on instagram on: July 31, 2014, 02:28:31 PM
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The most moral army in the world demonstration again how humain they are. This solder is braging about sniping 13 children in one day and that's it is a normal accurance for him, and today US decided to restock Israel as ammunition seems to be going low

Army doesn't have a moral, it's an institute for death and destruction. I'm not too surprised about such things happening during endless war between Israel and Palestine, but rather that the guy is proud of it.  It might be a fake though.
 

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Israel is the true beacon of democracy in the Middle East

Yeah.. there is no democracy in the west even, let alone in the middle east.  Smiley


It might fake but there are tons of videos, and reports of people doing and being proud of such things, this beyond not having morals, this is a psychopath murderer doing whatever he wants
350  Other / Politics & Society / Israeli sniper braging about killing 13 children just today on instagram on: July 31, 2014, 11:28:21 AM
http://countercurrentnews.com/2014/07/idf-sniper-admits-on-instagram-to-murdering-13-gaza-children/


The most moral army in the world demonstration again how humain they are. This solder is braging about sniping 13 children in one day and that's it is a normal accurance for him, and today US decided to restock Israel as ammunition seems to be going low
351  Other / Politics & Society / Re: ISIS Leader is a Mossad trained agent? on: July 29, 2014, 08:44:15 PM
Have any news sources said this? Those links are to crackpot nonsense sites, not news sites. I see nothing but a claim with no supporting documents. They didn't even seem to know his name, referring to him by his Nom de guerre. What a load of crap.

weren't all Snowden leaks made the same way, without providing any visible evidences ? so far no denial from any part, but let's see maybe things will be cleared out more once this news becomes hot if it ever does

My skepticism is because there is so little detail. It does not say when or where he received training, or for what purpose. It does not even say why they think it is him or how they would know it's him. His name is not Abu-Bakr Al-Bagdadi. That is the name he went by when he was the head of AQI. Which means something like "Abu, the guy from Baghdad".

It also makes no sense. He was likely a cleric from Iraq who became radicalized after the U.S. invasion. Before that he was a complete unknown. Why would he work with us or us with him? He is a religious zealot and they don't bend. It would be a sin against God to have anything to do with the west.

I visit the mid east a lot and these sorts of conspiracy theories abound. Sometimes there is a grain of truth. For example, Osama Bin Laden did receive some training and maybe equipment from the CIA in the 80's. At that time we had a common enemy in the USSR.  
Later he became radicalized against the west during the first gulf war.

Apparently it doesn't say trained but that he is/was member of Mossad, as for the training, this actually very possible as the west were and dunno if they still training insurgent in Syria

But I'm with in the lack of informations, and that's why I'm not taking positions on that matter, waiting for more informations and for the concered sides to speak out.
352  Other / Politics & Society / Re: More From "The Religion Of Peace": Pakistan mob kills woman, girls...... on: July 29, 2014, 08:40:54 PM
Another ignorant post that confuses, religion, country customs and different currents maybe you should learn about the conflict between Shiites and Sunnites before posting a sensationalist title like this one....
Also murderers don't need religion to kill they just uses it as an excuse, and the prove is that murders happen with or without religion.

And AGAIN... instead of CONDEMN the violence, here comes one trying to make an excuse for it.

About Sunnis/Shiites/Ahmaddya it doesn't mater who is or isn't right. Ahmaddya is the only non-violent sect and it's hated by the other two... wonder why it's mostly the only thing the other two "Allah uh-Akhbar zombies" fully agree with! Maybe being non-violent is a bad thing at Islam...

Where do you see not condemning violence ? did you miss the part where I name this people as MURDERERS,  I think the one that is being a zombie here is you, you are auto hating anything related Muslims and Islam in all your posts and generalizing and I can quote your several times, the difference between me and you is that I reckon that in everything there are bad and good people, bad, people should be punished but not because there are bad people in group/community/religion/nation, doesn't mean I have the right to condemn everyone ! but a fair judgement is not one of your vertu it seems

No you didn't. You said there are murders everywhere and your overall text reads like a "hey! There are others doing it". Then with some crap about that endless bs of false prophets that's behind that shia sunni endless violence.

And lostDutchman, that Kansas guy won't kill you. That's where the difference lies. I don't care too if muslims pray to allah, god or whatever. As long as they don't kill people over it.

Yup because the words Murderers refers to who in your opinion? you are being dodgy again, and also you are again trying to deform what I said which a mark of someone that is intellectually malsaint.

Also murderers don't need religion to kill they just uses it as an excuse, and the prove is that murders happen with or without religion.

So No "I'm not saying other are doing it" as in insinuating passively that's ok if others are doing it, I'm saying murderers such as the one mentioned do not need religion to kill, they are just using as an excuse to do, as murders happens everyone with or without religion, I was clear on this matter.
353  Other / Politics & Society / Re: One Week in Islam: What is Wrong With This Faith??? on: July 29, 2014, 08:29:16 PM
I don't think that anything is wrong with Islam as faith.
Problem is with people who practice Islam in their own way, with their own interpretation of their holy book, interpretation which justify killing of innocent people.
Purpose of any religion is to teach people spirituality, bring them to God and prepare for another world, God's kingdom.
Radical Islam use from Qur'an what fit their agenda and just skip other parts.  

Sorry to disagree. The trap most westerns fall into is to look at Islam as if it was Christianity, a bunch of fairy tales open to 1000 interpretations.
But Islam is way more than that! Islam is a political system, for today it would be considered something close to Fascism with Commercialism as main economic trend, and is not open for interpretation. It's based upon the example of the "perfect Muslim", Muhammad, and that example is a trail of blood and violence.

Basically goes like this:
"It's wrong to kill people, you're misinterpreting your religion."

Christians will just find something to support them to kill people at the Jewish books (AKA Old Testament), but Jesus killed nobody.

Muslims... well... Muhammad just opened the party by trying to force-convert 12 Jews to Islam, they refused and he killed them... shaite!
again generalizing, as usual without a minimum of facts, maybe that hundred of thousands/millions of Jews (mostly) and Christians that lived in Muslim countries for centuries were forced to convert or were killed according to you.... but yes because some dickheads pseudo-islamist murderer that has nothing to do with Islam, try to force convert some under death threats that gives you the right to generalize to the muslim community, that's like taking Hitler as an example and generalizing by saying all European are murderers without mercy, but I guess that's one way for you to express your hatred against anything Muslim which can be proven by just a simple search on your comment history.
354  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Anti-Israel protesters rally across France on: July 29, 2014, 08:11:51 PM
Those crimes were in those countries when they were pissed poor, no region escapes from such faith it's in human nature, the only difference is that when those countries were pissed poor as you say, there wasn't remotely as much media coverage as there is now, you can check african countries where Muslims are minority for example, type Central Africa massacre and check for your self and we can take any other example.

Again you are taking bad examples the US before the industrial revolution was poor, the US is a very large very rich country, from agriculture, mineral resources, water, animals ect ect and I'm not going to talk about ethnical cleansing of native population or salevery problems and heck even the representation in Hollywood movies of that era shows high crimes rates, and yet even today while it is the US has one of the highest if not the highest crime rate in the western world, as for Germany, after WW2 Germany was under colonization and army law, Germany was still a strong industrial country, and again that doesn't mean there were no crimes it means the crimes.

If you want to take an example take an example of real poor countries as in today (to have the same media coverage), where goverment can't even enforce the law.

Just one question, when has Islam ever live in peace with their neighbors and in what period has it ever dominance in commerce?

The country I live in, they don't even tolerate the local minority population.

I don't understand your the point of your question, because the answer would be the same everywhere heck to prove my point, maybe you need to check the list of deadliest wars in history http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_wars_by_death_toll
not a single war related to Islam in the top 15 actually, but I can understand that will all the media acharnament people can easly mistake, and this is the reason that I don't believe in media but I do a little bit of search before advancing something

But if you look at a list of ongoing armed conflicts with 1000+ deaths per year,8 out of 10 of those wars involves Muslims.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_ongoing_armed_conflicts
The only thing is that a part from Israeli-Palestinian conflict, the rest of casualties is related to Arab spring/revolution (with a few exceptions), and not real wars as the ones mentioned above
355  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Anti-Israel protesters rally across France on: July 29, 2014, 06:15:46 PM
Those crimes were in those countries when they were pissed poor, no region escapes from such faith it's in human nature, the only difference is that when those countries were pissed poor as you say, there wasn't remotely as much media coverage as there is now, you can check african countries where Muslims are minority for example, type Central Africa massacre and check for your self and we can take any other example.

Again you are taking bad examples the US before the industrial revolution was poor, the US is a very large very rich country, from agriculture, mineral resources, water, animals ect ect and I'm not going to talk about ethnical cleansing of native population or salevery problems and heck even the representation in Hollywood movies of that era shows high crimes rates, and yet even today while it is the US has one of the highest if not the highest crime rate in the western world, as for Germany, after WW2 Germany was under colonization and army law, Germany was still a strong industrial country, and again that doesn't mean there were no crimes it means the crimes.

If you want to take an example take an example of real poor countries as in today (to have the same media coverage), where goverment can't even enforce the law.

Just one question, when has Islam ever live in peace with their neighbors and in what period has it ever dominance in commerce?

The country I live in, they don't even tolerate the local minority population.

I don't understand your the point of your question, because the answer would be the same everywhere heck to prove my point, maybe you need to check the list of deadliest wars in history http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_wars_by_death_toll
not a single war related to Islam in the top 15 actually, but I can understand that will all the media acharnament people can easly mistake, and this is the reason that I don't believe in media but I do a little bit of search before advancing something
356  Other / Politics & Society / Re: One Week in Islam: What is Wrong With This Faith??? on: July 29, 2014, 05:59:50 PM
So since LGBT are now allowed openly in the US army, does that mean that the LGBT brigade is going to invade Saudia Arabia?  One extremist group vs another, I need to get me some popcorn.
Nah not about Saudi Arabia, for a couple of reasons, some of them are geopolitical of course and others can be related to the fact that when you talk about Saudi Arabia especially about Mecca and Medina, you are basically talking about the Vatican of the Muslim world, and as such the condemnation wouldn't make sense in this aspect.
357  Other / Politics & Society / Re: ISIS Leader is a Mossad trained agent? on: July 29, 2014, 05:55:08 PM
Have any news sources said this? Those links are to crackpot nonsense sites, not news sites. I see nothing but a claim with no supporting documents. They didn't even seem to know his name, referring to him by his Nom de guerre. What a load of crap.

weren't all Snowden leaks made the same way, without providing any visible evidences ? so far no denial from any part, but let's see maybe things will be cleared out more once this news becomes hot if it ever does
358  Other / Politics & Society / ISIS Leader is a Mossad trained agent? on: July 29, 2014, 03:38:04 PM
It seems that many news outlets are reporting this news and claiming that the proof came from Snowden documents that are under media control
http://www.globalresearch.ca/isis-leader-abu-bakr-al-baghdadi-trained-by-israeli-mossad-nsa-documents-reveal/5391593
http://www.infowars.com/nsa-doc-reveals-isis-leader-al-baghdadi-is-u-s-british-and-israeli-intelligence-asset/
359  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Israel has already won, the Palestinians must surrender to avert a disaster on: July 29, 2014, 11:23:58 AM

being in a European jail is better than being gunned down by a tank.

unfortunately there aren't many nobodies, 99% of people don't care, sure as hell don't care enough to go protest.

my country is safe because invading it costs more than the gain from the invasion.
if the Palestinians weren't so weak and could hurt Israel Gaza wouldn't be invaded either.
and anyway no one needs Israel for an example of an invasion, countries have been doing it long before Israel existed.

hence Israel is going away with it, and that why people should pressure their government to push resolutions and sanctions so we can have a peaceful solution and so that the massacre stops

but they won't, no one cares.

they do care especially when voting periods gets close at least in democracies, the wouldn't care about the voice of one person, but when it is hundred of thousands voicing their anger on the situation things are different
360  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Anti-Israel protesters rally across France on: July 29, 2014, 11:22:12 AM
But essentially you're saying that those with the ability to conquer have the right to shape the future of a country and the people within it. I suppose that has happened a lot historically.

Those with the ability to conquer have the social, economic and technology advantage on their side. They have earn the right to shape other future.

Those who are being conquered should learn their mistake adopt to new way of doing things. Should they correct their mistakse, they too have the right to do the same to their enemies.

And if someone robes or rapes you on the street one day, will you also blame yourself for it?

The social advantage include having law abiding citizens which contribute positively to the country they are residing in.

Raping and robbing happen often in the conquered nations as you often read on the news in Muslim and Hindu countries. Do you think such countries "earn" their right to exists? What surprise me the most is the west often accept these cultures into their country with open arm and invite the same kind of problems with bring down the immigrants own country.


Your argumentation is totally wrong/false, simply because, crimes will always flourish in poor countries/regions no matter what confession they are, and it's not about the culture per say, you mentions Muslim countries for example then lets do a comparison shall we, the amount of crimes in the UAE or Qatar, is much lower than most western countries you are talking about, yet on the other hand, if you take an example of a poor country such as Somalia or Sudan you'll find a lot of problem. it's the circumstances and living conditions, that push people to do such crimes in general not their culture or origin and saying otherwise is just stupid

Do you see this kind of crimes in Japan, South Korea and Singapore when these countries were as pissed poor as Somalia and Sudan? They were in bad position, learn their mistakes and decided to correct their mistakes.

You can also compare it to US before the industry revolution and Germany after WWII and see how quickly the countries recovered from extremely bad position to where they are right now.



Those crimes were in those countries when they were pissed poor, no region escapes from such faith it's in human nature, the only difference is that when those countries were pissed poor as you say, there wasn't remotely as much media coverage as there is now, you can check african countries where Muslims are minority for example, type Central Africa massacre and check for your self and we can take any other example.

Again you are taking bad examples the US before the industrial revolution was poor, the US is a very large very rich country, from agriculture, mineral resources, water, animals ect ect and I'm not going to talk about ethnical cleansing of native population or salevery problems and heck even the representation in Hollywood movies of that era shows high crimes rates, and yet even today while it is the US has one of the highest if not the highest crime rate in the western world, as for Germany, after WW2 Germany was under colonization and army law, Germany was still a strong industrial country, and again that doesn't mean there were no crimes it means the crimes.

If you want to take an example take an example of real poor countries as in today (to have the same media coverage), where goverment can't even enforce the law.
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