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Dear Bestchange users, please spread awareness about this new (possible) scam that's trying to use the name of Bestchange in its domain. I hope no one gets scammed at any cost. Below is the proof and link to the telegram post as well:



Source: https://t.me/crypto_lvl/1204

As much as you love your life, should you also love your Bitcoins, shouldn't you?
When we used to talk in early days that we should tell people about BTC, at that time the value of BTC wasn't worth too much. Even a $1000 BTC would have been to people like "this is scam, and will fall any day soon". But, when the days came when BTC, for the very first time, touched 10k, it brought too much awareness about it amongst media and media started representing crypto in their own way, as the saying goes, "too many cooks spoil the broth". However, then people started realising that this is something and that this does have some value (not talking about intrinsic value) and then, they started keeping BTCs more as a secret rather than bashing out in front of their relatives, friends or anybody else that they have crypto in their portfolio. There was fear, not just for getting robbed by people in their own area or anywhere else, but by the governments too because back then, the stance of governments on crypto was very strict and it wasn't good at all. However, things changed later and now, you only keep it a secret from every other person you see or meet in your life because you do have a fear of getting all your life savings being fucked up the moment someone takes access to your wallet and boom, it's gone (for some people, even buying 1 whole BTC from their complete savings and holding it forever is all they want)

@OP, at the end of your post, you have said that they gave you a nonsense reply
What I mean to say here is, if they've already replied to you, why didn't you post the screenshots of the chat/PM logs where you had a debate with them regarding your withdrawal?

I believe they also had a live chat on their website, did you try to connect with them directly?

It takes a lot of time to become a successful trader, and that's what most of us here would have sacrificed.
About money, I didn't go that way till I believed that I'm ready enough to trade real funds, that's when I trained my mind as well as my psychology a lot about the risk management and various other aspects through which I learnt trading. I never went to trade huge lots even after knowing that it was a demo account, that's because I wanted to prepare for real world trading and if I can do that, anybody here can do that.
The most important thing here is to achieve consistency which is why we need to give trading a lot of time, and also follow some successful personalities because the vibe that comes from them increases our faith that one day, we will also be one of them.

I'm only talking possibilities and not 100% guaranteed scenarios, so I'm not at all preparing or worried for anything because I work for BTC, I get it instead of USD based on the conversion rates and that's it. And yes, downside will always remain a possibility because of the fact that whatever goes up, must come down (I guess Newton's law maybe?!)
As well, I've come here 3 months earlier than you buddy (registration dates lmao)
So that extra experience speaks as well haha  

One last time, I'd again ask this:
What the F is this dee cornz, man?  

What I don't get here is, you've shared your withdrawals page and you were able to withdraw about 500 ETH and even 500k USD around 2 times (or more) if I'm not wrong as we all can see that there's a transaction ID shown there.

Didn't they come and ask you these things the very first moment you tried to withdraw?

I mean, why now? When you have already withdrawn there so many times, then what's the issue?

Lol there's nothing sort of fancy or even any fantasy that I've got for USD and I'm not against BTC at all. What I'm talking about is just a speculation we all are making here. Even macros won't want to lose the opportunity to play easy by keeping BTC's value low because then, it's actually easy peasy for them to not just manipulate it but also play good in futures and make lots of money, whereas increasing the value of BTC means reducing the size of the opportunity that they currently have. Those who are bragging about BTC a million dollar soon, BTC to 200k and blah blah blah, I'd ask them where are they now.

Times now are like, we may even see some big names be erased out of the markets due to macros playing it out big by adding enough selling pressure and making big parties bankrupt who hold too much BTC and even its long positions, to just get them liquidated.

It's crypto buddy, anything can happen here.
We saw it dump from $30 to $5, then from $1k to $250, then from $10k to $3k (probably even less) and recently, about $69k to around $16k, so anything can happen here and I believe there's much time left for halving so we can't even expect that to price in.

And what's this dee cornz, man?

For Bitcoin to be struggling hard to break above $30k again for months, I believe that it all depends upon the dollar's strength whether it'll be weak and let BTC skyrocket hard or if it becomes too much stronger, we may even see 1/10th ($10k) of what's speculated here i.e.; 100k

Let the time play its game because all we know now is, BTC had always been freely being manipulated until big players (institutions) put their foot forward into this and invested. Now, everything here moves just like we see in forex. So I believe that there are possibilities that if USD gets stronger and stronger, we don't have enough BTC supply here in terms of number to keep it strong against dollar which is why the fall will be big.

Anybody working in the banking sector nowadays is easy to be convinced for btc, that's because people know that currently they can't trust the banks due to what happened with some huge banking names recently, so even those in the banking sector can easily be convinced about crypto to be the most safe haven asset they can park their funds into.

The problem here is, people are not patient enough to wait and start assuming lots of scenarios in case they see anything happening or not happening around something. Same is the case here, so everyone started assuming lots of things about you because obviously, you guys are running a mixer and people from mixer always keep their identity anonymous, which is why these assumptions take place. Anyways, congratulations on setting everything back up and running. 🙌

If you'd take it my way, though it may sound like I'm being partial but I'm not, I believe that it's jayce and 2-3 other signature designers have lifted the bars to a whole new level of designs where they don't just design the signature, but first understand the priorities of the customer and the project and then create almost a complete design that tells everything in it that a customer wants in his advertisement. Things have changed quite a lot since we saw Web3 came our way, because everything is now being upgraded to a higher level and to keep up with that, these designs were also needed to be upgraded. 

The way we are seeing endorsements coming our way every now and then through various channels such as YouTube, Facebook and other social media, emails, etc., I'm sure that the industry has gained enough popularity in the last few years due to the spark that got boosted because of various new types of games being invented by human minds every single day. I've become a fan of Dream11, and as you know that whenever a new idea comes in the market, many duplicates will come up following the same and that's why, we see lots of them popping up with new names but with bigger and better prizes. All we need to understand is that how they pay us and the mechanism behind the same in order to know whether we'll get our profits paid in real or not.

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Glad to see that you understood what icopress was talking about. However, I've quoted this part to make you understand that any moderator's likes and dislikes have nothing to do with your posts for not being counted in this "and any" campaign on this forum. Let me tell you that if a moderator does not like your post (if it contains spam) and if it is reported by somebody, I bet you won't find that post because it'll be deleted by that or another moderator, so chances of counting it here end itself.  

I'm not talking here about an already hacked scenario, but whenever such an incident takes place and the higher authorities immediately start contacting the mixers and if the mixers are, at all, interested in helping them out by stopping the mixing of the coins from the hack and return them to where they belong. I know nobody would use them if they do this, but isn't it good to stop the bad before it becomes worst?


I never said that any mixer is allowed to operate legally and that nobody can tell the mixers what to be done and what not, but does that mean that the government officials can't even try to contact these mixers to at least try their 0.01% chance at stopping the scammer from completing his crime and get away with the money as well?

Anybody here who thinks that using monero is the only option that is left for the scammer, then I believe that even for that option to become available for him, he first needs to settle his Bitcoins either through mixing or OTC and nobody would be able to complete a $300 million deal in one go (there's a chance that even the scammer gets scammed here) and if he goes through a mixer, I believe that a mixer may take some steps to stop this person.

Now, those talking about creating various new Bitcoin addresses and moving the coins there, every single transaction can be traced easily.

Lol, not like that obviously  
No mixer will ever respond to authorities because even they may get traced down and these authorities don't like mixers at all if I'm not wrong, and especially they won't respond if the authorities send a message in the way you described.  

Just in case, they try to get the specific mixer's email address for support or let's say, PM them here on Bitcointalk, will they ever address the authority's concerns about a hacker's address and that he may deposit to their mixer? And even ask the mixer to block that very address?

Then even if the hacker moves coins to various sources, it'll still be known because they're not getting mixed.

PS. I'm looking for mixing services to come to this thread and respond so that my confusion regarding the same gets cleared. I mean, if they're interested to reply here...

We all know about hacks, scams, password leaks and all the shit that's happening in the crypto world and we also see lots of scammers using mixers to eradicate the possibility of them being caught at all (though there are traces, but using mixer saves these scammers at the least, not intentionally).

Now, let's say that a hack happened some day at some exchange for about $300 million (or even $3 million, just e.g.), and the exchange immediately opens up about the hack. For a second, just think that the scammer keeps the coins in his wallet and doesn't move them for some time, however FBI and other major authorities are aware of this hack and they give orders to mixers that if a specific address is provided to the mixers (if they know exactly on which address the hacker has kept the coins), and they ask them to immediately report them about the same, then let me ask some questions:

1. Do mixers know where they're getting a deposit from?
2. If yes, will they co-operate here with the officials and let them know about the deposit?
3. If they do, how will they stop the scammer from moving his funds out of their mixer?

@OP, the reason behind that is the fact that Bitcoin is being valued in terms of fiat. Fiat itself is centralized, so we need alternatives that allow us to go for P2P and use those alternatives as escrow (here: centralised exchanges like Binance). However, nowadays I'm also aware of the fact that people are being screwed for using these P2P as they're suffering from chargebacks and even bank account freeze scams.
I also know that we all hate providing KYC when we talk about privacy and decentralisation, but at some point it's for our own good and that's where these exchanges help us out whenever we get stuck in those scams.
Till we can't transact BTC for its own value (not in fiat, but giving BTC a different value for its usage which isn't possible because we all are here for profits through speculation), I don't think Dexes will take over.