If you long or short, you'll end up making more USDT on your investment instead of BTC. And yeah, if you're shorting BTC, it means you'll be able to "buy more BTC" when you'll make much USDT through your short as the value of BTC against USDT is going lower, so you're going to get much high, and vice versa when BTC goes high and you longed.

I'd not call that here as I don't want to show off my amount haha. 
But it was something not so big as yours, it was much lesser in number but it was some time back, so I believe that they were just finishing up their site and so they were busy in doing all that which is why things delayed. If they're grading your bets in 5 minutes, it's cool. I didn't bet since 2-3 days so I believe things have changed already.

The time I withdrew some coins from this site, it took around 30 minutes to be processed. They process it manually and even they grade the bets manually, I don't really like that thing as it takes around 1 hour for a bet to be graded from their end. I'd suggest them to automate the grading process at least if not withdrawals, because a gambler can wait for a withdrawal but he can't wait for the bets to be graded during an hour as he might want to bet on something else and if the gambler is like you @ronaldo40 who puts in his 100% in one game, definitely wouldn't want to wait that long if you want to win and quickly bet on something else. 

I'm shocked to hear that it still survived 32 reds. I didn't see your run, can you tell me what was your bet size and did you martingale? 2.6757x must be your set payout, right? And you're right, the variance does slip out badly if the reds continue. Btw which side of the dice did you play those bets with? Under 37 or Over 62.99?

Well, how can Telegram be blamed for all that shit happening there? They're active enough to even tag a scam as a "Scam" if enough reports have been made by real users. And about those non sense channels and groups, why don't you just leave those groups and also report them? I believe that 95% of the total users in such groups are nothing but bots so there's no point in believing anybody and DYOR is the mantra to succeed anywhere. Trust yourself and leave those mofos' non sense predictions aside.

Uncle Ben hehe.  
Okay, let's talk about the topic. I've voted no, and tbh I haven't achieved it yet as I've only earned BTC and just spent them whenever I got them. I mean, it's not like I'm a fan of fiat currencies but the fact is that, many of us treat BTC as a salary and so, we are bound to sell it in order to let our lives be smooth. I'm in BTC and with BTC, so owning 1 BTC or not doesn't really matter to me and I believe I'll have BTC with me till my last breath.

I am more than worried about those Venezuelans who have gone all in on BTC. I mean, there's nothing wrong in making crypto a part of your life, but taking crypto as your whole life is stupid. And even if the government is taking shit steps like these $0.23 worth of Bolivar-bills release, I believe that going all in on BTC is not a good idea because if it ever gets crashed (and that's imminent tbh), the whole country will be there to suffer just like they are suffering from their current Government.

@everyone,
Tbh, if the exchanges are stopping us from using mixers (I mean, by blocking deposits and even our accounts to frighten us), then I believe oeleo said it the right way that we should ask ourselves whether to use these "centralized exchange" services at all or not. Everything, from a custodial wallet to a centralized exchange has all the information of our coins going from our wallet to the other one which is literally not good. I mean, if someone uses a mixer to save themselves from getting traced, what's wrong with it? Why are these companies interested in fetching our personal data including crypto? Will they sell it to government and the officials will raid us and start asking for taxes while there's still no regulation for crypto in our country at all?

@shield132, let me give you an example to make you understand why "we" need to use mixers. Let's say you're a gambler and gambling is completely banned in your country but you still do it for your entertainment. Now, if you're too concerned that some day, your transactions will get traced somehow if you're making too much money through gambling and catch the eyes of your tax officials, you'll need to look for options to "hide" this activity from your officials. Obviously, gambling is not a crime and neither a monry-laundering activity, but if it's not allowed, then you may be put behind the bars with several charges on your name. So after thinking for your future, you decide to go for mixers and move your coins first to some wallets which have nothing to do with gambling industry, right? So that will save you at least, even if you are seen receiving too much money, your gambling activities are still under the hood.

@oeleo, Is it true that if we use mixing services and receive coins through them on our desired addresses, will those coins be categorized as tainted? I read this somewhere but don't remember exactly where.

The worst that I see is that, they've not even kept the prices transparent of all the so-called coins and tokens available there and I'm not so desperate a trader who would blindly download an app just to know that at what price are they selling BTC. I have seen many exchanges that work only through their apps but still, they show the ongoing prices of those tokens in order to keep everything open to the users and what's shown there is the same I get on the app.

I already know the website that you shared and I know some even better than these. It's like, the costs get adjusted every few days and I believe we'll once again see the fees popping up higher once we start the march towards $20k. Let's just wait and watch, and if the fee remains nearby the same values as you've mentioned atm, we'd be lucky enough this time that BTC will have things maintained the way it did in its low price days.

Miners are not getting ^less fees^ tbh and based on the current value of BTC, it looks justifiable. When we talk about miners, it's them prioritizing the high fee transactions which is why the low fee transactions just remain in the mempool and it gets clogged, this gives even higher boost and edges it up to more higher fees than the already high ones. Even if we try to send our transaction with a low priority fee, I don't think that miners will be mining it any time soon because big players are already paying hefty amounts in fees to them.

Wait!
Are we doing the wrong thing by blaming miners? Aren't some firms intentionally paying high fees to keep the bar up and make the end user pay more fees to get a place for their transaction in a block? Think it for a second. Why would miners intentionally do that?

You may be correct but there was a thread "Breaking Mixing Services" where a user named Felix Maduakor stated that he was able to crack the details of transactions taking place in most of the mixers except Chipmixer. He claimed that he was unable to find the sources and said that he tried his best but couldn't crack any of the Chipmixer transactions till the date he was active here.

That's not true, those who are concerned about their privacy or get concerned at some point of time, would definitely go for mixers.

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If they manage to know about our transaction coming from a mixing service, they'll definitely do something to stop us withdrawing it or just block our account right away. I'm scared of this.

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They're doing good, but only for these exchanges and it's totally against the protocol IMHO. I mean, what's the meaning of dealing in crypto when your transactions will be traced by these companies? It can be useful in hack cases but this is literally centralization when they are able to be the place where every single address can be traced and categorized. I mean, I see it as something negative but your views may be different on this.

So China said they were unable to track those transactions on time while still having complete control on every single breath of their citizens? They're just trying to ruin the game for crypto as they don't like people succeed, not even theirs. And if they were still not able to trace it but were totally in control of letting their citizens stop the use of crypto and stop mining, it's honestly a shame for them that a few people in that gambling gang managed to slide down their own currency under their nose.

It's not true that alts will start declining quickly as they do follow the trend of BTC and rally more when BTC holds around a specific price. But, you should also see that everything is pegged to BTC and if BTC rises so quick, even the most shittiest alts will rise in terms of USD. Is it justifiable? No, because today's investor is not some old-school pump and dump puppet who just takes things for granted, but does complete research before entering the markets and invests carefully. That carefulness stops, and sometimes, even declines some shitcoins while working alts rock on. During this bull run, don't expect those non-sense tokens to rally as what they will gain, they'll spew 'em out badly and will make you lose much more.

The major reason behind BTC's dominance slippage is the rise in the values of DeFi tokens and that can't be ignored. They rise quickly, dump even more quickly and then again rise. Sure DeFi was not the reason alone, but there are more and more tokens being added on the list and marketcap is being updated for all of them which makes the entire marketcap of the alts to increase against BTC alone, so it's not a big deal when we see a slippage occuring there.

As you can see, they didn't open an exchange immediately but are using another exchange as a medium to buy BTC for their customers who put their money in crypto through PayPal (at least that is what they wrote in it). Now, it's impossible for PayPal to match the total number of BTC's demand for their wide range of users which is why they are not allowing us to withdraw our crypto but just keep it inside, see it and sell it when we see the value increased. Do you really think they are looking into any such business like entering an exchange business, that too crypto? I don't think so.

I hope everyone here knows what mixing services are, and for those who don't:

BTC mixers work as a medium, a medium that works like an escrow, gives you back your own coins but on your desired addresses and that too, from different places so for you to become non-traceable at your end. Now, these mixers don't know where these coins will be going to, so it's only you who knows about your coins, your addresses and your transactions.

So, what's the reason behind this thread?

Actually, most exchanges are reluctant to providing their users the authority of using mixers while depositing on their platform and I have heard so many news about exchanges stopping and freezing the account and some didn't even release the account as of today. I'm a privacy conscious person and would like to ask you whether I should still use mixers when depositing on an exchange or not.

And why would someone be interested in taking your tokens when they're "worthless" atm? As there's no guarantee that your project will work out, why would anyone give their time and efforts for the same if they are not sure what exactly they'll be getting for it? Trust me, nobody does any job for "free" nowadays.
 

Wow, and can you give me some links to the channels (not talking about Telegram channel) which can give me assurance about the significance of your token in order to make me believe that we'll be able to do Impex business so cheap (or even free as you stated).

China's strategy to create fear amongst crypto users about their (China's) possession of BTC has turned old and already known to many users. I believe that the negative influence China had on the users was because it probably controlled more than 50% of the total mining hash power, but now things are under control and everything has been spread out. So there's nothing much to worry about.

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Honestly, I'm not a user of okex but I've heard a lot about them before, and it's quite shocking that they've kept their users' funds under their possession for more than a month. Doesn't it look like a scam already happened and they are trying to hide it? I mean, an exchange hack or if that guy Robin may have run away with their funds?