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1361  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Test Cricket Prediction and Discussion Thread [self - mod] on: January 27, 2023, 11:03:57 AM
Explain this, why is India going to care too much about the money that they get from ICC when it is only 4- 5% of the annual revenue that BCCI gets? India is more likely to choose mental warfare against Pakistan rather than getting the money that they get from ICC in my opinion. At least that's what the Indian cricket board thinks.

LOL.. because it is simply too big. $405 million for a 8-year period sounds small for you?

Last time, BCCI fought tooth and nail to get their share increased. Originally Srinivasan had proposed $570 million for the BCCI, by reducing the allocation for associate nations to zero. Then Shashank Manohar came to power and he changed it to $293 million. High voltage drama followed for the next 12 months or so, and the BCCI at one point even threatened to pull out from all the ICC events. Finally a compromise deal was reached and the allocation for BCCI was again increased to $405 million, by reducing the share for associates.

Now tell me whether you still think that BCCI wouldn't care much about the grants from ICC.  Grin

I understand that it is too big of an amount. But when it comes to between being humiliated and actually going to Pakistan to play the Asia cup and giving up the money that they get from ICC, I think India is always going to choose to give up the money.

But actually, the honest thing is I do not think the situation is ever going to go down that way. I believe all the things are going to be fixed and India is going to go to Pakistan to play the Asia cup and Pakistan will also play in the world cup. But even if India does not go to Pakistan to play the Asia cup and the Asia cup is eventually moved to another venue, I do not think Pakistan is ever going to miss the world cup.

And honestly, I think India is too big of a club. And giving up only 40 million, or at least around 40 million is not going to be that much of a big deal for them if things genuinely come down to that situation.
1362  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Test Cricket Prediction and Discussion Thread [self - mod] on: January 27, 2023, 07:04:35 AM
Sithara007, Certainly, India does not care about the money that they get from the ICC. And that instantly puts them in a position of power. That's because they are self-sufficient. But Pakistan is not like that. Pakistan has to care about the money that they get from the ICC. So, India is in an advantageous position right now. Because if they do not take part in the Asia cup, it is not going to matter too much for them. But if that happens and Pakistan also decides to not take part in the world cup, it is going to be very devastating for Pakistan.
It is not like India doesn't care about the funds from the ICC. At the moment, they get around $40 million per year from the ICC, which is a huge amount (although it comprises only 4% to 5% of the annual revenues for the BCCI). But the point is that BCCI can function without any issue even if the ICC funds are withheld and the same can't be said about Pakistan. PCB is till dependent on the grants from ICC for most of their annual budget. And the dependence is going to increase further from 2024 onwards, when the next ICC funding cycle starts.

Explain this, why is India going to care too much about the money that they get from ICC when it is only 4- 5% of the annual revenue that BCCI gets? India is more likely to choose mental warfare against Pakistan rather than getting the money that they get from ICC in my opinion. At least that's what the Indian cricket board thinks.


I don't think that only PCB rely on funds from ICC. Except a few like India, Australia & England every other board depends on those funds. The biggest revenue generator for ICC is BCCI and it has now become so big that if India wants to move out of ICC many other countries would follow them and ICC would never want that to happen.

Most of the boards rely heavily on the money that they get from the ICC. Only India, England, and Australia are the exceptions in my opinion. Especially India because they have good earnings even without the money from the ICC. So even if they do not get the money that they get from ICC tomorrow, they will still be able to function easily like they are doing right now.
1363  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: ODI cricket and general cricketing discussion [self - mod] on: January 27, 2023, 07:00:27 AM
If you take the stats into account in ODI, Tim Southee never had a great performance against India in my memory and even if you check his economy against India is well over 6.15 but on the other hand Trent Boult does bowl well against India and even in a hypothetical situation with the form the Indian batsmen were in, i doubt they could have made any difference.
That may be true. But given how poorly the New Zealand pacers performed (especially Tickner, Duffy and Shipley), I think Boult or Southee would have performed far better. Lockie Ferguson was the only bowler who held his nerves against India. Anyway, the pitches were very unsupportive for the pace bowlers and therefore even the experienced bowlers would have struggled. On top of that, New Zealand is not a team with depth in their player strength, unlike the case with India, Australia or England. If 2-3 if their main players are unavailable, that will impact their performance.

New Zealand is currently certainly not as strong as the other three big teams. They are suddenly lacking behind. And I have to mention one thing which is the games being played in India are obviously going to be beneficial for India.

I am not going to say that New Zealand is not capable of winning against India. Currently, I am going to say that New Zealand lost because they simply did not play well enough and wasn't able to hold their nerve. And New Zealand knows very well that the track is favoring the batting side. So, if they can somehow keep wickets in hand, the runs will come. But they could not do that as well.
1364  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Test Cricket Prediction and Discussion Thread [self - mod] on: January 26, 2023, 12:31:14 PM
^^^ Yes.. that's what I think as well. Although the PCB is unhappy about it, in the end they don't have any other choice. They are heavily dependent on the revenues from ICC. On the other hand, the BCCI doesn't care much about the ICC funds, as they are earning handsomely from the IPL (and now the WIPL as well). But things will get ugly at some point before the tournament. The Asia Cup is scheduled to be played in September 2023. The ODI world cup is supposed to start one month after this. So any impact from the Asian Cup will likely spill over to the ODI World Cup as well.
This is almost confirm now that there will be a neutral venue for Asia Cup and after 4th February meeting between India and Pakistan chairman's about ACC things will be more clear.
Pakistan can't afford to take any bold steps like not participating in world cup as they can't go against ICC but opposite is the case with India.
India will put immense pressure on ICC over this issue and make things according to their will.

Sithara007, Certainly, India does not care about the money that they get from the ICC. And that instantly puts them in a position of power. That's because they are self-sufficient. But Pakistan is not like that. Pakistan has to care about the money that they get from the ICC. So, India is in an advantageous position right now. Because if they do not take part in the Asia cup, it is not going to matter too much for them. But if that happens and Pakistan also decides to not take part in the world cup, it is going to be very devastating for Pakistan.
1365  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Italian League Prediction Thread (Serie A) on: January 23, 2023, 05:43:33 PM
In fact, no, this match was a battle but it didn't bring advantages for my beloved team (Juventus) not to mention that they brought home 1 point with a lot of effort (and tiredness)
It's not a win, it's definitely a total loss.
You are right, this is a total loss for juventus. The draw that was obtained by Juventus made them have to fall to 9th position. they recently got a sanctions because of finance violations. They should still be able to get 3 points in this match to keep the chance of getting to race for the top 4 positions. But, this draw will make juventus more difficult. Unless their consistency is still good even though the players are definitely disappointed with the 15 point deduction obtained by Juventus.

This match was obviously full of goals. A lot of fireworks from both teams in this match. But in the end, it is obviously not the desired result for Juventus. They just lost a lot of points which honestly I think is quite unfair. I wanted Juventus to win this match. But in the end, it came down to the weak defending of Juventus. They could not get all three points from this match. But I will say that after such a setback, they actually did well enough in this match. And we also have to remember that the match did not start very well for them.
1366  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: ⚽ Football Transfers Speculation, Odds and Predictions on: January 23, 2023, 05:20:28 PM
The prize tag on every players signed by Chelsea is so ridiculous. How on earth will Chelsea pay the sum of 106m just for Enzo Fernandez? I believe clubs are doing this probe to Chelsea's current situation. Enzo is leaving a lower league to play the most competitive/difficult league in football, and I doubt if he will play up to the expectations. Chelsea should have a careful thought on these transfer terms, £106m is so much for a young guy who just began making a name in football.

I mean it is not unknown to people. Chelsea does make some incredibly dumb transfers. Actually no. I'm not going to say that when they brought in Lukaku for almost 100 million that did make sense. The deal just did not work out for them, unfortunately.

But this one really seems to be dumb. There is no reason for them to spend so much money on this player at all. And I also do not understand how Chelsea is spending so much money. Like 106 million euros for Enzo Fernandez? Really?
1367  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Cricket match prediction discussions on: January 23, 2023, 03:18:16 PM
What the heck is wrong with Michael Clarke? This dude established himself as one of the best batsmen in cricket, but completely lost it and is the new Warne these days.

https://circleofcricket.com/category/Latest_news/82278/watch-michael-clarke-slapped-by-his-girlfriend-over-cheating-allegations-video-goes-viral

He ended up cheating on his girlfriend and had a public spat with her and some relatives. Some videos actually posted subtitles. I don't think he will be returning as a professional commentator anytime soon.

He should simply retire from anything related to cricket since his reputation has already gone down the drain.

I think we should not disregard the fact that he was one of the best players ever to play cricket. Just because he has some issues in his personal life. If he has some personal issues he will sort them out I believe. But just to bash him because of his personal life does not seem right to me. In these types of celebrity cases, we will never know who is right and who is wrong. Unless the case goes to the court and the guy is basically like "Johnny Depp".

Anyway, actually, I also believe that it will be good for him if he stays away from cricket for a little while. At least till this problem sorts out.
1368  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: First thing i will do if Bitcoin become legal tender globally on: January 23, 2023, 05:48:41 AM


WHAT IS THE FIRST THING YOU WILL DO IF BITCOIN BECOMES GLOBALLY ACCEPTED JUST LIKE THE INTERNET?
For me I will open my Bitcoin mining farm that will be public with a website and registered under the law for clients that will want third-party services that will align with global best practices of cryptography and digital asset management.




For now, bitcoin is still an investment asset for me, so if that happens, nothing will change, bitcoin is still my preferred choice in my portfolio. Additionally, once bitcoin becomes legal tender, meaning we can use bitcoin for payments anywhere in the world, I just like everyone else use it as a payment method. I never intended to open a Bitcoin mining farm like you, but I will definitely step up to invest in bitcoin because then it really becomes as safe as gold.
1369  Economy / Economics / Re: After Budgeting, How Do I Deal With Unexcepted Expenses? on: January 22, 2023, 09:24:20 PM

Suggest ways to deal with unexpected expenses?



Life is always full of surprises and called surprises we will never anticipate. Other than setting up a savings account, there's no better way for me to cope with it. And that's also why many people say that they don't have a savings account in the bank, but they only have money to invest in bitcoin, which is an entirely wrong plan because unexpected things always happen in our life. Continue budgeting your monthly expenses as usual and add emergency savings, that's what we can do.
1370  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Premier League Prediction Thread 2022/2023 on: January 22, 2023, 07:03:14 PM
Jurgen Klopp is actually a good coach. And he has also proved himself in the past with Liverpool. But the problem is this season nothing is working.
I don't see any reason why anyone would argue Jurgen Klopp not to be a good team. I think Liverpool should be excused for there performances this season but, they've been the team that has kept Manchester City on there toes for the past 3 seasons. It was high time we see another team pick up the task and that's what Arsenal is doing in a reverse method. Other than Arsenal playing catch up, they've got Manchester City playing the catch up and Arsenal are always taking there chances at increasing point gaps when given.

As much as most of us won't want to give in, the S. Mane transfer from the Liverpool team contributes largely to Liverpool's bad shape this season and Nunez isn't doing much as his replacement.

First of all, it was not the best decision to let Sadio Mane go. Secondly, no one thought that Darwin Nunez is not going to play well for Liverpool. Everyone thought he was going to be their next big goal scorer. But that did not happen. Right now anything Liverpool is trying to do is working against them. And it is obvious that this season Liverpool is in no way going to give Manchester City a fight.

Definitely, Arsenal is doing a good job. They are on the top of the table. And they are also looking very good to win the title. I believe that's because, unlike Liverpool, Arsenal made some really intelligent decisions regarding the transfer of players.
1371  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Premier League Prediction Thread 2022/2023 on: January 22, 2023, 03:18:26 PM
It was not even a nice game. That game has been showing us how those clubs were wasting their money for nothing. Liverpool can't even win the match even though that was played at the anfield while Chelsea was not fully using its new players.
Chelsea is a bit better in the first half but the performance from Chelsea has been decreasing a lot when the game entered into the second half. Liverpool was starting to attack chelsea during the second half which is really disappointing.
The players owned by Liverpool like nunez and gakpo were useless at that match. How can the public hyped the gakpo's transfer to Liverpool? Gakpo's skill was average football players. That's an over rated guy
both teams have had problems this season. and they haven't been able to fix it even after spending quite a lot on the transfer market. if their coach doesn't maximize the new players they have to contribute to the squad to the fullest. it would be a very wasteful and wasteful purchase for the team. maybe what needs to be done is to change the coach.
It is feared that a change of coach without going through consideration will end up like the fate of Chelsea, where after officially replace Thomas Tuchel Chelsea show no progress under the hands of new coach Graham Potter.
While for Liverpool, the club needs to support Jurgen Klopp to overhaul Liverpool's main squad with the players Klopp wants. I'm sure if the club gives him financial support, Jurgen Klopp can get Liverpool back to how it was before.

Jurgen Klopp is actually a good coach. And he has also proved himself in the past with Liverpool. But the problem is this season nothing is working. And I do not know if they will work properly even if the coach is backed up with money. And that is the same case with Chelsea. They are not doing well, especially after the change of authority. So I believe Liverpool is also very fearful that if they change the courts, they might also end up in the same situation like Chelsea. Nothing is starting for Liverpool right now.
1372  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: UEFA Europa League 2022/23 Season on: January 22, 2023, 01:33:54 PM
Eric did brought Manchester united into bright light,he was able to discipline the players and built a team that is very strong and superb. It is Eric vs Xavi on the match day as both coach will want to show their quality that they have all it takes to win the match. Barca are performing excellently which will not make it easy for Manchester united to win the match. If Lewandoski is macked out it will be a problem for the club since De pay is gone.
Since Depay has already left, I'm sure they're looking for a plan B. The worst-case scenario for Barcelona is that Lewandowski is injured before their match against Manchester United. I'm not saying they won't have a chance, but they'll face a lot of pressure from Manchester United, as well as a goal drought because they don't have a striker who can simply finish the game for them when necessary. This is supposed to be a tough match, but given the present state of things, we may have to just see Manchester United prevailing against Barcelona.

Barcelona versus Manchester United match is going to be quite difficult for Barcelona. And I do not know what Barcelona is going to do if somehow for some reason Robert Lewandowski, who generally does not get injured for long periods of time, does end up getting injured.

Barcelona will not have a proper striker if that happens. As long as Barcelona have Robert Lewandowski on the team, I do not think they will have to worry. But it will be better if Barcelona does keep a replacement for Robert Lewandowski. Obviously, they are not going to find someone like him. But they will have to get someone who will be a good substitute.
1373  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: La Liga (Spanish League) Prediction Thread 2022/23 on: January 22, 2023, 05:55:15 AM
We had a talk before about ATM and they indeed won the game vs Valladolid. 
The victory that atletico Madrid had will be a relief for the supporters of the club who would have watched the game hoping that their team do not turn out to be the losers at the end of the day. The first goal scored in the Eighteenth minute set the  momentum for the other two goals that followed. With a few more of this kind of positive results maybe the supporters of the club and the management of the club will consider leaving the coach to get the team back to their usual self again.

In this match, of course, Atletico Madrid was supposed to be the winner. Because they were playing against a team which is currently fighting to stay out of the relegation zone. If Atletico Madrid somehow ended up not winning this match, they would have been a great shame for them. I am also happy that Atletico Madrid was able to win this match. Hopefully, now they will be back into winning ways.

They will be playing against Real Madrid in the Copa del Rey competition in the next match. And after that, they will have only one day's break and they will face Osasuna. So a little hard time for them manages the squad.
1374  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: ⚽ Football Transfers Speculation, Odds and Predictions on: January 21, 2023, 09:32:01 PM
Manchester United are interested in bringing Tottenham and England striker Harry Kane, 29, to Old Trafford this summer. What do Tottenham and their very stingy manager think about it?  Grin
Harry Kane is one of the most valuable football players in the Premier League. If he had played for other teams, he would have won trophies and changed the fate of the league. I think he should play for one of the teams like Real Madrid and Bayern Munich. He is 29 years old. He could add a few trophies to his career if he plays for these teams for a few years. Otherwise, he will end his career without winning a trophy. However, a successful striker like him should have won much more. Harry Kane should definitely leave Tottenham.
I personally do not think that Harry Kane is going to be very interested to go to Manchester United right now. Because obviously if he wants he can get a better team compared to Manchester United. And personally, I would also like to see him go anywhere else than Manchester United. And I also think this might be just a rumor.


Moroccan winger Hakim Ziyech, 29, is keen to move from Chelsea and join Barcelona this month. The World Cup in Qatar obviously raised his price. Will the clubs come to an agreement?
Hakim Ziyech can be a good player for Barcelona. So I think he will also be interested to go to Barcelona. Of course, the world cup has increased its price. But Barcelona will obviously try to get him for as less money as they can because they are not in a financially stable situation right now. But anyway I see this deal happening


Liverpool are still in talks with Roberto Firmino over a new short-term contract, and the 31-year-old Brazil forward says he intends to stay at the club. This seems like the best solution for both parties. After the departure of Mane, Liverpool cannot afford to lose Firmino as well.
The way Liverpool are playing right now, it is not going to be a good decision to let Roberto Firmino go right now. Liverpool is facing a lot of problems in almost every aspect of the game. Having a player like him is going to give stability and a little more depth to the squad.
1375  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: 2023 NBA Season on: January 21, 2023, 05:07:48 PM
Wild Lakers win, Grizzlies thought that they are cruising into the game, but the Lakers didn't give up and made defensive stops specially in the last 4 minutes of the game. I think it was just the breaks for them, Dennis with a steal and then the go ahead basket and lead.
Brandon Clarke missing the 2nd free throw that could have tied the game.
So the 11 game winning streak has been put on a stop by the Lakers.
Kinda wild how the Lakers stole that game from the Grizzlies. The seemingly invulnerable Memphis Grizzlies lost to a Lakers without Anthony Davis, one of the playmakers for Lebron James. Even Lebron didn't really carry the Lakers as Westbrook unbelievably posted more points than him. That last quarter is a wild ride, and if only the Grizzlies amped up their defense on the last minute, and figured out what the Lakers are going to do in order to get the most of the last 20 or so seconds, they could have prevented Schroder from making the play and perhaps win this game. Overall a great basketball to watch where you don't see the usual superstars making points one after the other.
Lakers were able to live on the reality that Davis is not playing with them, they understand that winning is necessary for them to improve their ranking. Dennis is such a big asset for the Lakers, I hope they will not let him go, and I hope Dennis won't be too greedy to ask too much that the team cannot afford to give to him.

A very interesting game between the Lakers and the Grizzlies. I actually did not think that the Lakers are going to win this game. I absolutely cannot find any word except for.

"Hijack" because this was certainly a hijack by the Lakers. The Grizzlies had a good all-around performance. But in the end, the performance of LeBron, James, and Westbrook got the Lakers to the winning score. They also had some help from the other players on the team, one of them being Dennis. I also agree that he is oftentimes very helpful for the Lakers. And they really should not let him go.
1376  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: Ethereum Shocks the World on: January 21, 2023, 01:43:05 AM
Ethereum Shocks the World: Half a Million Validators and Rising, Is Ethereum the Next Crypto King Or BTC?

tell me if it's a stupid question
This is the oldest forum about bitcoin, and to be honest, the people here are mostly bitcoinists rather than altcoins, and I also prefer bitcoin to altcoins. You cannot compare ETH or any altcoins with bitcoin because they are entirely different.

ETH will not be able to replace bitcoin and become the king of crypto, but if you ask about the market capitalization, ETH can surpass bitcoin in the future, I think it can. The cryptocurrency market is always full of surprises. And in the past, ETH overtook BTC in terms of market capitalization but that didn't last.
This forum started on BTC as it was the first crypto but later on they add altcoins boards because altcoins are also created later on. There is nothing wrong with altcoins as long as they are a worthy one. They can be a good addition to our crypto portfolio if we are into diversifying. There is also nothing wrong if you prefer BTC over the alts.

You should stick or go to where you are happy and there is no need to follow what others are doing. If the good performance of ETH continues then it might steal the spot of BTC. This can be a big deal to some but if BTC supporters don't want this to happen then they need to support BTC harder than usual.

To be fair, ETH can still usurp BTC, but it will be tough, and ETH has to work a lot more if it wants to happen. I don't remember the exact time either, but what @fuguebtc said is true, there was a time when ETH's capitalization surpassed BTC, but that didn't last long, and since then ETH hasn't had a single pass over BTC. Everything can happen.

Many people hate altcoins because they are centralized, that's not wrong, but depending on the purpose of each person's participation in the market, we will have different options. I am here to make money so I will invest in bitcoin, altcoins as long as it gives me profit.
1377  Economy / Economics / Re: We are not out of the woods yet on: January 21, 2023, 01:30:02 AM
However, it is so curious to see that bitcoin / alts stood positively even during the pandemic when miners were at risk of getting shut off completely.


When the pandemic hit, not only the crypto market but the entire financial industry stood up and boomed because the government pumped a lot of money to save the economy at that time. In my opinion, the economy during the pandemic is not so bad compared to what happened in 2022. 2022 is really a bad year for the world economy and bitcoin because of the consequences of the pandemic and made worse when the war between Russia and Ukraine disrupted the supply and demand system of the world market.
1378  Economy / Economics / Re: what is the key to your success investing in bitcoin.. on: January 21, 2023, 01:13:11 AM


I, who don't have much experience in bitcoin, want to ask what is the key to your successful investment in bitcoin?
and I want to ask if you have ever experienced investment losses in bitcoin?


Not just bitcoin, when you invest in any field or do anything, the only way to success is knowledge. Only when you have knowledge will you know what you should and shouldn't do to achieve success. There is no secret formula for success when investing with bitcoin, all you need is knowledge. So instead of trying to find tips or shortcuts to get rich quickly, you should focus on gaining knowledge and spending more time on bitcoin.
1379  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: Anybody else confused by the dead-coins pump ? on: January 20, 2023, 03:16:24 PM
I wouldn't be surprised as we all know nothing is impossible in the crypto market. The increase in the price of a coin sometimes does not necessarily come from potential coins or from major events, any coin can be pumped and can happen at any time. Cryptocurrency is still a manipulated market, and it happens very often for altcoins, so you shouldn't be surprised that dead coins can go up several hundred percent. Don't be surprised but don't be curious invest in them, you'll regret it in time.
1380  Economy / Economics / Re: Fiat and crypto and stock is bs, but property is real on: January 20, 2023, 03:07:31 PM
Putting your ideals to others is bs too.

I can't imagine how you could say those things if you needed fiat to buy properties or to maintain those properties. Fiat is the currency that is still needed if you want to buy products, services, or even properties nowadays, you can't deny that fact. Cryptocurrency is much better in your properties investment, in my opinion, high volatility means high profits in the long run.

Or maybe you couldn't see it or you're just ignoring that fact because you've lost a lot in the past bear markets.

To be fair, fiat is still king at the moment, and we would be in trouble without it.

But I disagree with you saying crypto is better than real estate, so far, real estate is considered the best investment, even more than gold. Regarding profitability, real estate may not equal crypto, but in terms of safety, crypto can never be compared to real estate. A good investment is one that is weighed against both risk and return.
Most people invest in cryptocurrencies with the expectation of making a high return with a small initial capital, but when the goal is reached, people will also convert it into gold or real estate. That's true, it is okay to risk a small amount of money, but when it is a large amount of money, it is another matter.
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