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761  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Italian League Prediction Thread (Serie A) on: September 01, 2023, 08:29:15 AM
The good feelings is that Lukaku is now in Roman for the rest of the season on loan, he never wanted to leave Inter Milan, he always love the club but they disappointed him and made him look stupid. In football things like this happens but the happiness of footballer matters that's why the Saudi Arabia pro league is Excel now. They give players good comfort.
Not everything has to be compared like that even though it is both football, because the Saudi Arabian professional league is inhabited by teams with a very large financial level so that it clearly makes the players more comfortable to be there. Meanwhile, in Serie A, Inter Milan and AS Roma have very different financial strengths so it is not feasible to compare them with the teams in the Saudi Arabian professional league. After all, Inter Milan also used Lukaku on loan last season and that was not much different from what AS Roma did this season.

There is nothing wrong if Lukaku plays at AS Roma although indeed, maybe Lukaku also prefers to play at Inter. But in a case like this, I think it is still a move and or a transfer that is natural to happen too. Because it seems too, maybe there was a disagreement between Inter and Chelsea before, so that made Inter retreat to recruit Lukaku. Therefore, then I think at least Lukaku is also still lucky, because there are still big teams like AS Roma who are interested in recruiting him, even if only on loan. Surely it would be better, if compared to Lukaku who stayed at Chelsea but was not included in the squad list.

Of course, there is nothing wrong with Lukaku playing in Roma. The only thing is that probably some people are going to think that he is a traitor, especially the inter-fans. And he is definitely going to get a lot of hate when he plays an away match in the stadium of Inter. But other than that there is absolutely nothing wrong. He made his choice and he is free to do so.

And yes, I agree with the point that you made about him being lucky. Because if it was any other player, I don’t think so many European clubs, would have been actually interested in getting him in the squad. Just look at what happened with Gareth Bale and Eden Hazard.
762  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Bitcoin achievement on: August 31, 2023, 03:58:03 AM
I'm a little skeptical about OP's testimony here, I don't believe that bitcoin is a panacea to depression or anything like that, pretty sure that there's other factors besides bitcoin that made OP get out of the dark pit that he's in, also what forum are you talking about? I don't think there's a lot of active forums that talks about bitcoin besides Bitcointalk. And 2017 is such a short time frame to achieve all of those stuff unless you've got the money already which I think doesn't corroborate with your story that you're down on your luck before being introduced to bitcoin.

Bitcoin is not a panacea, but most of our sicknesses and troubles stem from our finances. Therefore, once our financial problems are solved, other problems in life will also be solved. Finance is almost the root of all problems in life and bitcoin can solve our financial problems.
But honestly, I don't believe the OP's story. As Agbe pointed out, it's definitely more of a story made up for merit than that's what he experienced. This guy looks more like a newbie to the market than an investor from 2017.
763  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Bitcoin movement: my thought on: August 31, 2023, 03:44:22 AM
I just thought of this, and I want you to view it from your own perspective. As everyone hopes that more people get to believe and use bitcoins, I think bitcoins can gain more new users on a large scale if anyone (whales ) can place their advert through a popular football club just as some companies do sponsor  football league. I think this will send a strong message to billions of people across the world who do know but does not embrace Bitcoin usage.
Let me site another example, let's take for instance, a club announces that they  will pay their players in BTC. This news can also help people adopt BTC.
It is bitcoin and not bitcoins.
Concerning your proposed advertisement in the boards during football matches and other places. I think this proposal would have been better if it was the first year of Bitcoin launch. I tell you that no single person that is playing football or even watching football that does not know about bitcoin. Anyone that has access to internet knows about Bitcoin and almost has heard about it. So, your proposal is necessary and no one will take that tax because bitcoin is a decentralized coin.

People that do not know about bitcoin are people that are living in rural places and maybe who do not have access to internet. Bitcoin does not beg people to be aware of it. It is just the battle of government to hide Bitcoin. If government should give bitcoin a level-playing ground, the adoption will be massive.

Bitcoin has become popular beyond our imagination, even in rural areas people know about it but they still don't really care much about it. Indeed, people need bitcoin, bitcoin does not need to beg someone to use it. So it is not necessary to find a way to promote it to people in the same way that companies promote their products. Using bitcoin has great benefits, so those who really need it will find it. We don't have to come up with all sorts of ways to promote it as a product to sell for a profit.

OP, don't try to think of huge missions to introduce people to bitcoin. If you really want to spread bitcoin to everyone, the first thing you need to do is introduce it to your loved ones. If you can do that, it will be an important contribution to bitcoin.
764  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: French Soccer League Predictions and Discussion Thread (Ligue 1) on: August 31, 2023, 12:25:11 AM


As quoted from Marca, it is true that Kylian Mbappe has just uploaded an Instagram story on his Instagram and this has given rise to further speculation regarding his possible departure this summer. It is clear that there are 3 emojis and one white heart emoji which indicates his departure but this is only a possibility because we often see oddities in Kylian Mbappe's posts so far on his Instagram account.

Is it possible that Kylian Mbappe will not stay at PSG this season and it turns out that there has been an agreement with Real Madrid to make a splash with his transfer to Real Madrid at the last minute of the transfer market? If this is true, PSG must prepare to go through this season without Kylian Mbappe, especially with other news that Kolo Muani wants to join PSG and is just waiting for Frankfurt's decision.

I am just getting tired of this. Every day there are some new things happening which might not even indicate anything but there are some new speculations about this player. I think it is definitely high time that he should go to Real Madrid. He should stop playing games and make up his mind about what he actually wants to do. Whenever I see these types of things, I actually get angry because the transfer speculations around this player have been going on for ages and it does not seem to be stopping any time soon as well.

I would definitely like to wait for some official statement. And I am definitely not going to make anything out of the emojis that he is going to put on his Instagram story.
Lol, that's how it is when a player is labeled "star", whatever happens to them is always a rumor in the end. Even when he's out of sight, there will still be rumors, and the rumors will be diverse, and probably never thought of before.
Even the emojis he posts will become speculation, just like now. Lol
But I'm just like you, that I'm just waiting for official news, because I've been through so many rumors about her, and it's just a rumor, no official news, no confirmation that eventually sinks in.

I understand that Mbappé is a big star. And anything he does. He's definitely going to be starting some speculation about him, especially when he is not certain about his future. I also understand that the media is also going to try to take advantage of that, and make news out of almost nothing.

But what I am trying to say is, is there actually any reason to make anything out of the emoji that he put on his post? I definitely do not think so. He is definitely a big star but the media is just trying to print news out of thin Air. And right now I am actually angry about this because most of the News does not have any base. I mean why are they talking about him going to another club? Just because him giving some emojis on his post?
765  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: French Soccer League Predictions and Discussion Thread (Ligue 1) on: August 30, 2023, 04:37:55 PM


As quoted from Marca, it is true that Kylian Mbappe has just uploaded an Instagram story on his Instagram and this has given rise to further speculation regarding his possible departure this summer. It is clear that there are 3 emojis and one white heart emoji which indicates his departure but this is only a possibility because we often see oddities in Kylian Mbappe's posts so far on his Instagram account.

Is it possible that Kylian Mbappe will not stay at PSG this season and it turns out that there has been an agreement with Real Madrid to make a splash with his transfer to Real Madrid at the last minute of the transfer market? If this is true, PSG must prepare to go through this season without Kylian Mbappe, especially with other news that Kolo Muani wants to join PSG and is just waiting for Frankfurt's decision.

I am just getting tired of this. Every day there are some new things happening which might not even indicate anything but there are some new speculations about this player. I think it is definitely high time that he should go to Real Madrid. He should stop playing games and make up his mind about what he actually wants to do. Whenever I see these types of things, I actually get angry because the transfer speculations around this player have been going on for ages and it does not seem to be stopping any time soon as well.

I would definitely like to wait for some official statement. And I am definitely not going to make anything out of the emojis that he is going to put on his Instagram story.
766  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: ⚽ Football Transfers Speculation, Odds and Predictions on: August 30, 2023, 04:04:46 PM


Seeing West Ham's movements in the transfer market this summer was surprising, they managed to sell Declan Rice to Arsenal for around 100 million euros and then they invested by bringing in 3 new players to strengthen their midfield. Of the three players there are Mohammed Kudus, James Ward-Prowse, and Edson Alvarez.

David Moyes have done a wonderful business  with all these names introduced. The signing of Ward Prowse and Kudus excited me because I know  they would  adapt very well to the Premier League and the Westham team in general.
Kudus has been been linked with clubs like Chelsea and also Man United  due to the influence of Ten Hag but he finally choose to end with the hammers. They have made good midfield signatures how well can Bowen and Antonio  score goals.  They have to be set for the double stressful season as they have been ungraded to play Europa League.

This was definitely a good move from West Ham. They were able to make the team a lot more stronger by just selling one player. Of course the money that they got was good for Declan Rice. But I definitely did not think that they would actually be able to make the whole midfield area so much stronger with that hundred million.


So far James Ward-Prowse has contributed goals and assists for West Ham in the last few matches, but soon we will see Mohammed Kudus' debut in this week's match considering he was just brought in a few days ago from Ajax. I think David Moyes knows very well the players the club really needs to be more competitive this season and it's not wrong for them to bring in talented players at a fairly reasonable cost. Maybe West Ham is the only team in the EPL that has made the best player transfers so far

I think if given enough time, the players are definitely going to perform well and also better as the season progresses. And I actually think that in this season so far, they have made the best transfers for themselves. At a time when everyone is throwing money around, they managed their expenses very well.



767  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: La Liga (Spanish League) Prediction Thread 2023/24 on: August 28, 2023, 06:13:18 PM

Yes, Real Madrid seems stronger than Barcelona this season. Real Madrid are still unbeaten in the 23/24 season. Real Madrid is at the top position in the La Liga points table with 9 points. As a Real Madrid supporter I expect them to qualify for the title this season. To make Real Madrid a strong team. I congratulate the coach of Real Madrid
I know for the fact that Real Madrid took all the time to prepare for this and since Barcelona beat them to take the La Liga title away from Real Madrid last season makes it more intense and confronting for Real Madrid in this season and there is no doubt in their ability to deliver a lot of winning in the games lineup for the season,  and it will not stop there,  Real Madrid will also extend that performance to the championship were their will be giving Manchester city a tough time in the season.

In essence, Bellingham presence in the Real Madrid squad has clearly had a positive impact on Real Madrid performance and match results so far. Because the fact is also, that Bellingham is also at the top of the La Liga top scorer list at this moment. Therefore, Real Madrid is still in very good form so far because I think, this improvement in Real Madrid's performance is also proof that Real Madrid recruited the right players like Bellingham.

But even so, I personally do not consider Barcelona weak. Because after all, Barcelona also did not get a defeat so far and yes, Barcelona only got one draw in the initial match. With results like that, then of course the competition between Real Madrid and Barcelona this season will remain fierce. Because Barcelona also still has a promising performance, of course, to be able to compete strongly in the race for the La Liga title this season.

Compared to any other team in La Liga, I cannot say that Barcelona is a weak team. And just like that, if I talk from the Champions League point of view, I will say that Barcelona is pretty average. So if I have to compare Barcelona versus Real Madrid right now, I will definitely say that Real Madrid is a better team. Of course, Real Madrid is not a complete team at this moment and neither is Barcelona. But the power of Real Madrid at this moment is definitely better compared to Barcelona. I am not saying that Barcelona will not be able to win the La Liga title. But Barcelona will have to be consistent in their performance. They have already dropped points. They cannot afford to do those things if they are actually thinking about being successful in the title race.

At the end of the day, I don’t think it is about strong or weak. I think it is about being consistent.
768  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: After all these years on: August 28, 2023, 09:26:44 AM
... Decentralization is not a weakness of the currency, in fact it is what makes Bitcoin unique.

Decentralization has made bitcoin unique and different from all other currencies. But it is also because of the decentralized nature that the government cannot control it and that is also the reason why they are not friendly with it. So it's very unlikely that they accept bitcoin as a currency, the government controls the economy, controls us with fiat. If they accept bitcoin as currency and let us use it, they are destroying themselves. So decentralization is unique to us, but it would be a bad thing in the eyes of the government.
769  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: I think we need to start asking people if...... on: August 28, 2023, 09:17:29 AM
I will probably disagree with your statement. We can own and invest in bitcoin even if we live in a country where bitcoin is banned. But for it to become a popular currency without government approval is impossible. One of the many reasons why bitcoin is still unpopular and many people dare not use it is because they fear a government ban. And how do businesses and shops accept it as currency if the government refuses? Individuals can use bitcoin quietly and stealthily from the government, but for businesses and institutions that is not possible.

Actually, it can be popular precisely because of the reason of disapproval by the governments. People often look for alternatives if the state forbids them to work white and openly in some field. The legal ways to transfer funds offered by most states cannot compare to cryptocurrencies. Generally, cryptocurrencies were invented as an alternative to traditional financial instruments offered by the state. And the more the state restricts the population in these matters, the more popular cryptocurrencies will become.

Bitcoin is really good so even if the government issues a ban, many people will still escape the ban to use bitcoin, but it cannot be said that bans will make bitcoin more popular. By far, the government is one of the biggest barriers for bitcoin to become more popular. People are always dissatisfied with what the government does, always go online to slander the government…but no one can agree or stand up against the government. Because they all know that against them there will be no good results. That's why if you live in a country that bans bitcoin and they know you use bitcoin, you will be punished by law and you can't do anything else. We shouldn't deny that the government's bitcoin ban is a huge disadvantage to it.
770  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: I think we need to start asking people if...... on: August 27, 2023, 09:52:31 AM
This can only possible in countries where Bitcoins are legal. Else if you ask for giving in Bitcoins in countries where Bitcoins are not legalised, then most of the time people won’t be aware of what Bitcoins are.

There is no correlation between the legalization of Bitcoin and people's knowledge of it. Bitcoin, on the contrary, is much more widespread in countries where it is not legalized, or partially legalized, as people perceive it as an alternative financial instrument capable of solving issues that national currencies cannot cope with. And in general, there are not many people left who are not at all aware of what Bitcoin is. Another thing is that not everyone knows how to use it. But this also depends more on the desire than on the conditions in which bitcoin is legalized.
Bitcoin is a type of decentralized currency whose buying and selling is possible on the internet so if you want you can own a bitcoin but it is correct that it depends on the individual's own will in using bitcoin. Bitcoin is still not legalized in many countries but many people know and are aware of it because of its use through the internet. Even if it is not legalized, it will continue to be used and become a more popular currency. From a financial perspective bitcoin is able to deal with financial problems.

I will probably disagree with your statement. We can own and invest in bitcoin even if we live in a country where bitcoin is banned. But for it to become a popular currency without government approval is impossible. One of the many reasons why bitcoin is still unpopular and many people dare not use it is because they fear a government ban. And how do businesses and shops accept it as currency if the government refuses? Individuals can use bitcoin quietly and stealthily from the government, but for businesses and institutions that is not possible.
771  Economy / Economics / Re: My wealth plan for next 3 years on: August 27, 2023, 09:45:12 AM
That's what I want to ask people who are intending to borrow money to invest. Why don't we work harder, save more to invest? Why do we always think of borrowing money to invest when there is no guarantee that the investment will yield returns without risk? I think those people are mostly lazy people and they don't want to work but want to be rich. Or they don't know anything about investing but only invest on the advice of others, so they don't anticipate the risk when investing by borrowing money.
Choosing to invest with savings I think is a good choice rather than looking for a loan to make an investment because investing with borrowed money will certainly get into trouble if we can't pay off the loan we take. I totally agree with you, those who invest with their borrowed money are people who only hear people talk about investing without a good understanding of all the risks that can occur in their investment, they only hear the good results without knowing the risks of losses that can occur in investing.
Using borrowed money to invest is not a wise choice. Let alone investing, even to make ends meet I think it should be avoided, unless there is no other choice but to take out a loan.
We cannot look for shortcuts to invest, and indeed when investing with borrowed money it is a shortcut, and it can be said that someone who does that is someone who does not think long about the situation they might encounter in the future.

I wouldn't recommend that at all, if we don't have the money for investment yet, then it's better to be a little late to raise the money for us to invest.


But it should also be noted that investing with savings is correct? I mean, if it's savings for the near future or for emergencies, don't use them for investments. Invest only with idle money that we do not need and if we lose it, it will not affect us. Do not use savings to invest, it is as risky as borrowing money to invest because when there are no savings and you need money, you will also have to borrow. And in my opinion, the expenses for life needs and savings should be what we need to have before thinking of investment.
772  Economy / Economics / Re: Economic Crash may take bitcoin to 1M dollar on: August 26, 2023, 09:43:02 AM
The idea of Bitcoin hitting $1M is wild and we have been hearing about it for years. It never happens though because as you know, BTC has always been the rebellious when it comes to the market and its price. It has always being doing its own thing. There is no way one could predict accurately what the price is going to be. Sure, if there's a global economic meltdown, everything might take a hit temporarily, Bitcoin included. But given its decentralized nature, whatever effect Bitcoin is going to show, it is going to be temporary. So even if it stumbles with a market crash, I bet it'll bounce back quicker than most and might reach the $1,00,000 mark (but its not going to happen. lets be realistic here), but eventually we will see a correction and it might go back down to $100k. But yeah, if the traditional system's going under, more people might see Bitcoin as the lifeboat. So we will see the price going up in the long run.
IMO, there isn't just enough impulse from the market and that's why it hasn't happened yet. We have to admit that we're still far from it and even a couple of halving comes, it may not even enough yet.

Despite that we've been hearing that for years, that's typical to have predictions come and go and some may happen but most of them won't.

So a lot of factors will be combined to make it happen and maybe value of fiat by that time will even be lower.

But why do we just expect bitcoin to reach 1 million USD and pray for the world economy to fall into a serious crisis? As we can see, the highest inflation in the past 40 years has caused us a lot of difficulties, even affected our bitcoin investment. Many people cannot keep their bitcoins because of the economic crisis. And, is there any benefit when the economy collapses and it still makes sense for bitcoin to hit $1 million? Also, does anyone think when the USD depreciates severely, will that 1 million dollars save us from the economic collapse?

I still hope and believe that bitcoin hits $1 million but due to increased demand, not the hope of an economic crisis.
773  Economy / Economics / Re: My wealth plan for next 3 years on: August 26, 2023, 09:31:07 AM
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I think it's a bad idea to borrow loan and invest in cryptocurrency especially shit coins like the AIDOGE you mentioned. I believe you've been in the crypto space for a while and you should be familiar with the term pump and dump. These projects are created by developers to enrich their pockets, they lack utility and there's no guarantee that whatever shitcoin you choose to invest would make a x1000 return.

I greatly agree, loaning money to buy shitcoins is like gambling.  I would support the idea if the money loaned is to be invested on Bitcoin because we know the halving is nearing and the possiblity of breaking ATH is just some years away.

My advice, don't take the loan to invest any shitcoin rather work hard. Whatever amount you are able to save you can use it to buy Bitcoin. Take a DCA approach and be accumulating your Bitcoin holding gradually.


This is a much better option, instead of paying interest, if we work hard and look for side jobs, we might find ourselves getting better in financial status.  By finding an additional source of income, the incoming funds can be used to invest in any investment ventures we plan and it also saves us from paying debt + interest that can possibly put us in a dire situation.

I completely agree with you. Instead of taking a loan or borrowing money just to invest (with the risk of it not even gaining profit), it is far better to work hard, find more sources of income, and use the extra money gotten from those to invest. That way no matter what the outcome of the investment is you wouldn't be held responsible for any loan or debts, as it is your own money. You wouldn't have to deal with additional financial problems and responsibilities aside from the investment you lost.


That's what I want to ask people who are intending to borrow money to invest. Why don't we work harder, save more to invest? Why do we always think of borrowing money to invest when there is no guarantee that the investment will yield returns without risk? I think those people are mostly lazy people and they don't want to work but want to be rich. Or they don't know anything about investing but only invest on the advice of others, so they don't anticipate the risk when investing by borrowing money.
774  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: UEFA Conference League 2023/24 Season on: August 25, 2023, 05:48:34 PM
It was definitely a good performance from Besiktas. But I have to say they were definitely a little lucky otherwise they were going to draw the match. The goal in the 94th minute clearly saved them to win the match. And I can definitely say that the second half of the match was absolutely lit.

And even though I absolutely agree that the goals were really good from Besiktas, I will definitely say that the match was quite even. Dynamo Kyiv definitely played well in this match also. I have to say they were a little unlucky to be honest. But it was only the first leg. I believe they will be able to perform well in the second leg. And I also definitely believe that in the second leg, Kyiv will push harder to win.

All the goals scored by Beşiktaş were perfect. Don't trust writers who try to belittle it. Aboubakar took an excellent penalty kick. It was very risky, but he successfully knocked the goalkeeper down and dropped the ball into the opposite corner. He made it seem so easy. Omar Colley scored the header again in a corner organization. Scoring a goal from a corner is difficult and takes a lot of work. Beşiktaş wasn't productive enough in this regard, the work done here began to bear fruit. Bakhtiyar Zaynutdinov scored a legendary goal in his first match. Milot Rashica also assisted. It's great that new signings contribute to the score. As a result, Beşiktaş won a very important victory against their tough rival Dynamo Kiev in the Conference League and opened the door of the tour.
775  Economy / Economics / Re: Were Banks and Governments behind this Dump? on: August 25, 2023, 12:05:46 PM
I'm digressing a bit with what you're saying, but I want to ask you 1 thing.  are you greedy for money, and are you after money?  are you entering this market not for profit but to support the bitcoin revolution without any profit? if you are also money hungry then don't call any investor greedy.  don't just blame or criticize Elon or anyone because once they enter the market, they are investors just like us.  Whether they sell or buy bitcoin is no different than us so don't try to criticize anyone when the market goes down.
I am a small investor but I am not greedy but just like I said Elon is after money like anyone else in the world because its the necessity. And I am not criticizing at least that was not my intention that's why I also included in the first sentence that market is open for anyone so either they sell or buy or hold they have no restriction on making it public.

Not every money maker is greedy and not every greedy person is money maker too. And Elon made moves which to some people are greedy and to some are not. Because greedy is a characteristic that based and labelled by different minds with different ideas. Means its distinct property not everyone must have the same thoughts about greedy.

I also disagree when you say that you are not greedy. We all need money and are greedy, even the fact that we take risks to invest in bitcoin shows that we are greedy. Greed is not bad as long as you just want to make money and benefit yourself and not harm anyone. There's nothing wrong with making money with your wits and thoughts, not by stealing from others. I am also a greedy person, because I also want to have a lot of money to have a happy life like rich people, and I do not want to lie about this.

The market is a battleground, I also don't want to blame anyone for dumping because that's the law of finance and we need to accept that. If we lose, it means that we are too weak and the person to blame is ourselves. What guarantees that if we were Elon, we wouldn't do the same thing as him?
776  Economy / Economics / Re: Having a problem a Personal Finance? on: August 25, 2023, 11:52:51 AM
[b.] Always hang out here on the Bitcointalk forum; you can see and learn a lot from this platform.
Most tips shared around here are related to how to secure your crypto. I don't think you'll learn how to manage your finances like how much you should allocate your money for saving and investment unless you're fine listening to some random user opinion. Just a few days ago somebody replied to a thread saying that they should never sell their Bitcoin until the price hit $150k or more. Are you sure that is a good advice? There are tons of other suggestions like this. I'd rather not use this forum as my primary source for financial learning.

There are still a lot of non-crypto related topics discussed on the forum but the opinions shared here are mostly the feelings and thoughts of each person. There are even people who have never experienced it and have no knowledge of it, but they still make silly opinions and try to justify that it is true. I still enjoy being active on this economy board as there are also quite interesting topics but to be honest, there aren't too many good tips shared here for me to learn and apply. If we want to discuss economics and finance, the forum is not the ideal place.
777  Economy / Speculation / Re: take advantage of opportunities on: August 24, 2023, 09:31:08 AM
today i saw the btc market it went down 5% and now it is $26800 and i saw very scared people and many are selling their btc cheap but i will not miss this golden opportunity when people are panic selling so i will buy it. and I'm lucky to still have balance left on my exchange.

Are you also taking advantage of this opportunity, friend?
When the Bitcoin market goes down, there is a golden opportunity to buy it. Because when the market was above $30000 people invested very little but when the market came back around $25000 many invested heavily. But there are many foolish people who panicked and sold their bitcoins after seeing this volatility in the market. Basically we know that the bitcoin market often rises and falls on this occasion we should never sell bitcoins at a low price. And I will say that those who get frustrated by the volatility in this market will never be able to invest successfully but will face losses. As currently the market is down and the only opportunity to invest is to invest from the current market where profit can be expected within few days.

The market needs movement, it needs buying and selling. If everyone is adamant about holding bitcoins and not selling, how can you buy bitcoins cheaply? They are not stupid but maybe they are new, do not have too much knowledge about the market or are selling according to their plan. Financial markets are a battleground and there will be winners and losers, you cannot expect everyone to win. The market doesn't print money to distribute to all of us for free, our profit is someone else's loss.
778  Economy / Speculation / Re: Is there still hope for the price of BTC to hit back $69k this year? on: August 24, 2023, 09:11:48 AM
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And the founder Nicholas Merten is saying things will get much worse for Bitcoin and we will tumble further then at this moment. I really hope he is wrong on his prediction.
I think is a wrong prediction because if the price of BTC go down more than $20k this year,it will be difficult for holders to breath well because many are waiting for the price to go higher before the end of November so that they can sell to start buying Christmas and new year things. this prediction will not stand because the price of BTC is still standing in $26k which the price can still move to reach higher in a way people will believe that the price will reach $50k next month.

No one is wrong and no one is right because that is the future and as we all know bitcoin is unpredictable. The better thing we should do is always have a plan for 2 scenarios, not too subjective and not too pessimistic with our investment. Furthermore, if you believe in history repeating itself then you should believe in the scenario where bitcoin will drop to $20k again and I don't rule it out either. Things will not be as easy as we would like and that is why people think this is a very fierce market.
779  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Premier League Prediction Thread 2023/2024 on: August 24, 2023, 01:55:52 AM


The problem with Chelsea is they are stuck in a downward spiral. They are stuck in a loophole of bad performance. The next match for Chelsea should be really easy for them, it is against Luton Town. I think some people who do not forward English Premier League regularly might even not have heard this name before. This is going to be a very easy chance for them to grab 3 points.

To be honest, even if they do grab 3 points from this match I don't think which is going to be the end of their problem. They definitely have some problems going on. And I agree that they do have a problem with adaptation. Doesn't matter if it is before the match with the tactics or during the match on the field.

Luton Town is barely well-known in the Premier League, and I only became aware of the club after its promotion to the premier league this season. I haven't seen any of their previous matches, so I'm not sure how well they can perform. However, when playing against a team like Luton Town, three points should be considered a bonus for Chelsea. Chelsea are currently unpredictable and cannot be relied on; even when they played superb football in the first half against West Ham United, they still ended up losing 3-1 to them, which I never expected of them. If they're clever, they'll obtain the three points; if they're not, they'll fumble and give the three points out.

That’s exactly what I was saying. Chelsea should easily be able to get three points from this match against Luton Town. Chelsea is definitely a better team compared to them in every aspect. So this should not be a problem on paper.  But we all know that recently Chelsea has not been performing as they should be on paper. They have been losing a lot of matches that they really should not be.

So I don’t know how this match is going to end. I definitely think this match should be an easy three points for Chelsea. But the way things are going, I will say that a draw is definitely not out of the conversation. And what if it is a loss for Chelsea?  That is definitely going to create some huge questions and also some huge problems for the club.
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The experience of Xavi Hernandez is also not anything close to someone like Guardiola. And even in this short time, he has actually been able to win the La Liga title under some extreme conditions. I understand that Barcelona did provide him with some decent amount of money to be honest. But if Barcelona wants more, they will have to spend more. And that is something Barcelona cannot do right now.

Xavi has been with Guardiola.  If you look at the games, they have the same philosophy. You have to remember Guardiola takes a long time. He is also building a team, with his long period as coach unfairly comparing Xavi and Guardiola. I think Xavi is quite a genius, he has the potential to have achievements like Pep Guardiola.  He still has quite a long time to be a coach at the current age. Regarding players, maybe they have limited funds due to economic circumstances. Even yesterday I heard that they still have some players who have not made the official list in this season's competition.

Yes, I understand that he has been in the team which was coaching. And the team also got a lot of success as well. He also seems to follow the same tactics as Guardiola as well. But that does not mean he has the same experience. And experience is very important for a coach in my opinion.

If you are a player you need experience, but you also need to be younger. But when you are a coach it doesn’t matter how old you are as long as you have experience. Unless you are more than 70 probably because at that age, it is hard for a human to think straight most of the time.

Anyway, I think Xavi is doing a good job with Barcelona. Under all the problems that he is facing, and we all know he is sometimes not even being able to register players that they have acquired already,  he is definitely handling things better than a lot of other coaches.
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