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1841  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: October 06, 2014, 09:24:47 AM
Bitstamp is totally exhausted, I think there will be still some downtrend.
Everyone please ignore this idiot, I just did...
1842  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: October 05, 2014, 10:40:00 PM
more fun?
 Wink

I own this market!
You don't own yourself though idiot
1843  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: October 05, 2014, 01:38:18 PM
I have added more to my ignore list today than in all prior history. They are probably only one person anyway.
Lol me too!
1844  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: October 05, 2014, 10:42:28 AM
310. Everybody enjoying the cheap coins? This is what you begged for for mo ths. Where is the party?
And when are you finally gonna buy and shut the fuck up bitch?

You only know to blame others pathetic troll, what do you do differently than them? Bitching?

Ignored.

 Cool
1845  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: October 05, 2014, 08:00:21 AM
Good morning, a lazy Sunday morning... but most importantly $250 till the next weekend ?
It is today or never imo
1846  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: October 04, 2014, 11:04:04 PM
Seems show is over for now. Good night from Greece, have a nice sleep. Wink
Ellinas re?

Avrio milame, paw k egw gia ypno!
1847  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: October 04, 2014, 11:03:24 PM
ok 1x more dump if it will not brake $322  we are free to go up.

Because?
Aliens
1848  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: October 04, 2014, 02:11:18 PM
who pushed the price down from 550 to 350 wont stop here until he can see such statistics

buy   - 28 (21.2%)
sell   - 16 (12.1%)
hodl   - 68 (51.5%)
panic sodl   - 20 (15.2%)
Total Voters: 132

probably they will stop selling and start buying if they can see a table like this in numbers
when there will be real blood on streets

buy   - (20%)
sell   - (50%)
hodl   -  (30%)

how many times did you call the bottom in this year ?  5-10 times?

Where does this idea come from that they at one point will start buying back?
You people keep saying that. What is this based on?
Grreeeeedddd
1849  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: October 04, 2014, 01:14:49 PM
1850  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: October 04, 2014, 01:06:16 PM
FYI I got ALL IN on the way down @353$

 Cool
1851  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: October 04, 2014, 11:14:38 AM
http://t.co/oe8dcSlXwy
1852  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: October 03, 2014, 06:39:30 PM
As a society we reached the bottom:
http://t.co/vfh3arXMJO

Now only way is upwards!
1853  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: October 03, 2014, 01:28:27 PM
Are there still people here who think the dumper(s) is doing anything else than just trying to kill the market?
If so, please show me something that will convince me this is not the case.
If a gvt or bank wants to kill BTC it is easier to do so by pumping to death an alt and make it No1.

Or no?

I think a government or bank can do it way easier than this. I don't think that's what happening here.
I have no clue who else would do this and why. It's just that i can't find another plausible explanation for this market behaviour.
Maybe our mod who kept crying how there is no manipulation can explain this to us.
I keep my mind open to any possible scenario but I think that the manipulator is not trying to exit or destroy it.

I think they were amateurs and by breaking the 400 level they seriously broke investors confidence and now we are heading south without real breaks...

Last 2-3 days I see NO manipulation. Just my PoV
1854  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: October 03, 2014, 01:22:20 PM
Are there still people here who think the dumper(s) is doing anything else than just trying to kill the market?
If so, please show me something that will convince me this is not the case.
If a gvt or bank wants to kill BTC it is easier to do so by pumping to death an alt and make it No1.

Or no?
1855  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: October 03, 2014, 01:17:52 PM
9K btc dump incoming!
1856  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: October 03, 2014, 07:58:30 AM
Price will keep going down. Bitcoin won't reach massive adoption. Never.

It's good to buy drugs and nothing more.

it's great for gambling and buying weapons too
Any charts for weed/coca/heroin/ammo/guns USD pairs? Seriously.

I had a discussion yesterday on what patterns these 'assets' follow regarding price over the years.

It's also good for storage of value, especially for those people who want to diversify and hedge their investment portfolio (hedge against the dollar and/or other currencies).
This is what I believe too but don't we have data?

Is the amount of USD needed to buy 1g of weed today proportional of 2000? Or it has 'increased' in value?

In other words would I only protect my money from inflation or have profit on top of that (like with gold since early 80s)?

EDIT: Also regarding art, any charts for Mona Lisa/Guernica etc price over years? Is it exponential?
 

We should already realize that posters like Mah87 and Prophetx are so busy talking their book that they are lacking in a bit of broader perspective. 

Surely, if I were to attempt to argue storage of value with a narrow and limited perspective, such as within the last 10 months, I would be engaged in a losing argument.  Also, if I allowed other posters to limit the framework of BTC to just transactions of scandal and illegality and questionable morality (or at least questionable social acceptability), then I would also be boxed into a narrow set of rebuttals that I would be able to invoke to defend the validity of BTC. 

Nonetheless, we know that bitcoin has a much longer history than the past 10 months and we also know that on a monthly basis, bitcoin has been (on an ongoing basis) acquiring more and more "legitimate" liquidation avenues.  Surely, NOT 100%, but becoming broader and broader on a regular basis.  So whether bitcoin users want to use bitcoin for anonymous and/or black market purposes or for legitimate mainstream purposes, the number of venues available for such uses is expanding exponentially on an ongoing and regular basis.

Surely, the price of BTC has NOT come up yet to return to its November/December 2013 ATH - but many of us recognize that if we exercise sufficient patience, BTC prices are likely to return at and beyond those levels in the near future (could be 1 month or could be 20 months).  And, even if BTC prices do NOT return and surpass the November/December 2013 ATH in the near future, we are still going to find considerable value to have access to a variety of liquidation channels and to just hold BTC as a future hedge (so long as we continue to monitor its value, since it remains a very volatile and targeted asset class).

 So, again, whether the buying power of BTC has gone up or gone down will depend on a person's perspective of the investment timeline, and surely timing of buying into BTC may have NOT been great in the last 10 months for those who narrow themselves to such a perspective (or for those who have begun their involvement during this most recent 10 month period), which as I already mentioned, seems very incomplete and very self-debilitating in NOT focusing on the longer term value and/or potentials of BTC.

Why engage with those who are so purposefully and intentionally attempting to skew and to limit the argument? 
I have Mah on ignore though prophetx is not in the list of people I would not talk here. I think he has his agenda as we all do but is providing useful feedback too.

1857  Economy / Speculation / Re: Crunch time! on: October 03, 2014, 07:39:26 AM
Funny that the market takes so long to find a bottom while we here already established long ago, empirically, that the bottom is right above the previous rally's ATH Smiley So I've known since January that we will bottom out above $260, and also known that we'll stop above $32 last April.

How much will be the gap between actual bottom and the previous ATH is an unknown in the equation, determined by how this reverse (also known as "dutch") auction for cheap coins will unroll and how low people with money will allow it to drop.

Methinks: if a certain market bottom (or top) is taken for granted by the majority, it likely isn't granted to happen at all.
In fairness I still see a likely bottom around 250 but I don't discount a quick dip below 200.
Not that I'm going to take any coin out of cold storage because of this.

people used to say bottom was $1000 $900,$800,$700,$600,$500,$400,$300..
guess what? some day you will say the bottom is $0.01 and still goes wrong because bitcoin is going to nowhere but down lower and lower then the final capitulation

{debunked chart}




Like contemporary art:

1858  Economy / Speculation / Re: Gold collapsing. Bitcoin UP. on: October 03, 2014, 07:35:03 AM
Bitcoin is art, check this out:

http://www.ft.com/cms/s/2/933b4e62-f824-11df-8875-00144feab49a.html#axzz3F45k5w30

 Roll Eyes
1859  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: October 03, 2014, 07:33:41 AM
http://www.ft.com/cms/s/2/933b4e62-f824-11df-8875-00144feab49a.html#axzz3F45k5w30

WOW - Bitcoin IS art!!

1860  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: October 03, 2014, 07:30:07 AM
Price will keep going down. Bitcoin won't reach massive adoption. Never.

It's good to buy drugs and nothing more.

it's great for gambling and buying weapons too
Any charts for weed/coca/heroin/ammo/guns USD pairs? Seriously.

I had a discussion yesterday on what patterns these 'assets' follow regarding price over the years.

It's also good for storage of value, especially for those people who want to diversify and hedge their investment portfolio (hedge against the dollar and/or other currencies).
This is what I believe too but don't we have data?

Is the amount of USD needed to buy 1g of weed today proportional of 2000? Or it has 'increased' in value?

In other words would I only protect my money from inflation or have profit on top of that (like with gold since early 80s)?

EDIT: Also regarding art, any charts for Mona Lisa/Guernica etc price over years? Is it exponential?
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