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1821  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: October 09, 2014, 09:40:50 PM
Whale wars
1822  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: October 09, 2014, 09:07:20 PM
Now let's tear down this Beerstamp wall again!
1823  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: October 09, 2014, 09:02:34 PM
Brain itch after some of that CTFC meeting but hell yes, CCMF.
What was the outcome of this meeting?
1824  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: October 09, 2014, 06:19:27 PM
Bears in HELL

1825  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: October 09, 2014, 03:56:03 PM
It just does not stop!
1826  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: October 09, 2014, 03:53:19 PM
Cut your loose Adam

EDIT: Because next 24h are crilicut
1827  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: October 09, 2014, 01:37:14 PM
Correction time, I am posting train video Tongue

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=83TVw2CJxhk
1828  Economy / Speculation / Re: Gold collapsing. Bitcoin UP. on: October 08, 2014, 09:08:54 PM
Off topic: I could not RT you, I unfollowed and followed back and now I can! Weird  Huh

Stephen Gornick pm'd me this morning and informed me about the retweet problem.  so i figured out how to undo that setting.  sorry!

i vaguely recall someone using the initials "RT" in a message, was that you?  i just realized that means "retweet".
Yeap, it was me!
1829  Economy / Speculation / Re: Gold collapsing. Bitcoin UP. on: October 08, 2014, 08:58:46 PM
ok, i'm going to have to refine my conspiracy theory on the BearWhale.  he is a distraction.  i now think the main benefactor of a manufactured selloff was economic actor Pantera Capital.

let me further say, this type of analysis is purely in fun and based on anecdotes. i am not accusing them of anything and will be happy to be corrected.  if i'm right, i don't necessarily have anything against them for manipulating the market like i'm theorizing.  i just find this one of the more interesting events in Bitcoin history and find it fun to theorize how and why it happened:

developments since the selloff that have occurred after my original theory about it being a non-economic actor:

1.  Dan Moorehead @dan_pantera, the day after the selloff, comes out with a detailed series of tweets focusing attention on the movements of address 159SCycgn8weAy2XGUEhD6V1RTFni7E3iq convincing me that the 30K dumper was indeed a whale who simply capitulated to the selloff pressure:

https://twitter.com/dan_pantera

2.  Pantera Capital, 2 days after the selloff, issues not only one but two uber bullish reports on Bitcoin.  its Bitcoin vs Gold report unapologetically and unabashedly forecasting $4.3M/BTC.  they don't normally publish this frequently:

https://cdn.panteracapital.com/wp-content/uploads/Bitcoin-vs-Gold.pdf

https://cdn.panteracapital.com/wp-content/uploads/Pantera-Bitcoin-Letter-September-2014.pdf

associated data and assumptions:

1.  @PanteraCapital & @RonGlantz popped up as my Twitter followers since spring/summer and i know they follow this thread.  here's the tinfoil stuff and it's truly not meant to feed my ego but since June, i've had the funny feeling that very often when i would put up a bullish post, it was immediately met with a selloff.  it got so bad that @kLee1977 told me "you bring bad luck!" to which i replied:

"@kLee1977 actually, u know wht? i bet those ask wall manipulators key off bulltards like me. long term tho, i'd bet on me Wink"

https://twitter.com/cypherdoc2/status/510080984243765248

2.  the day of the selloff, Oct 5, i sent this tweet to @PanteraCapital @BitstampUSD @damijanmerlak & @nejc_kodric:

"hey @PanteraCapital. u guys r invested in @BitstampUSD. y don't u ask @damijanmerlak & @nejc_kodric whats goin on with the huge wall?"

https://twitter.com/cypherdoc2/status/518969201814683648

never got a response from any of them.  i would have expected at least a denial.

3.  i think since June, Pantera used it's known considerable BTC resources obtained in the early days of Bitcoin, to sell/short down the market with a bot and occasional 1000 BTC chunks, keying off known bulls like myself to knock the market down with the goal of causing a whale or whales to finally capitulate, at which time they'd buy back the sold coins or cover shorted coins back at a cheaper price, at what turned out to be in this case @$300.  i doubt they had a specific price point; they were simply hunting for a large selloff source from a weak whale.

4.  a large economic actor like Pantera could afford to hire forum and Reddit trolls to help talk down the price.  no matter what anyone says, this type of trolling is effective in destroying confidence.  it is also well known that when there are big price moves either way ppl come to these meeting places to find out what's going on.  the fact that Severro, antibitcoinconsortium, falllling, etc. have all abruptly disappeared since Sunday indicate to me they were on hire by someone with substantial resources to manipulate the market.

5.  Pantera Capital is the major investor in Bitstamp and clearly has a close relationship with its founders.  only they would have the resources and confidence to leave large amounts of BTC and fiat on an unregulated exchange awaiting opportunities, manufactured or otherwise, considering what happened to mtgox clients.  

now it's time for them to talk the price up with bullish reports.

i welcome any thoughts or criticisms.
Off topic: I could not RT you, I unfollowed and followed back and now I can! Weird  Huh
1830  Economy / Speculation / Re: Stop calling 'the bottom' on: October 08, 2014, 05:06:37 PM
275$
1831  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: October 08, 2014, 02:57:21 PM
Is mmitech still waiting to buy in double digits??

 Cheesy Cheesy

Shroomie??

SHROOMIEEEEEE

Where are you pussycat??
1832  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: October 08, 2014, 02:55:46 PM
Hi again!

Any bear left for me?
1833  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [BBR] Boolberry: Privacy and Security - Guaranteed[Bittrex/Poloniex]GPU Released on: October 08, 2014, 11:07:33 AM

Bagholding till you die !

I don't hold any bags, sorry.

edit: is this the general reaction in the BBR community to superNET though? Do people not understand it? I'm a little surprised tbh.

If nobody understands it but james, maybe there is a problem with james?

Do you even understand it yourself? Because at no point you explained it. Your last post about supernet is just words and words that goes nowhere. So once again : there is no technology behind supernet. all this talk about technology and teleport (people are being nice to james when they say they dont understand it, they are just too polite to qualify it as a sham) are just here to hide its true purpose: supernet is just a mega fund that aggregates the value of any coin that it lists. There is no value for anyone using it since you pay a fee to james; and you miss most of the rise in value of the newly listed coins since it happens before the supernet listing. Basically, it is a paying pump and dump group where james is the only one with insider information.

At best, snake oil. At worse, scam.

My post wasn't an attempt to explain what superNET is intended to be from user's perspective. If people want me to explain what it is intended to be from a users perspective I can do that. I can't explain it from a technical perspective though and I've never claimed that I could. I have a general idea of some of the technologies that are going to be involved, some of which are already developed and working.

AnonyMint understood Teleport after James explained it to him.

SuperNET is not just a mega fund of any coin it lists and if you're thinking about it that way you're totally wrong. SuperNET as an investment is closer to an open source company that is attempting to generate revenue that's payed back in dividends to shareholders.

What fee are you referring to? There's currently only 1% of the fund allocated for operating expenses right now.

I've yet to see someone criticize superNET on a conceptual level after actually researching what it's about. Ever criticism I've come across on this forum has been based totally on peoples assumptions of what they think it is, not what it actually is.
Source?
1834  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [BBR] Boolberry: Privacy and Security - Guaranteed[Bittrex/Poloniex]GPU Released on: October 07, 2014, 11:22:25 AM
CZ, could you give us a statement what exactly happened? Is windjc still involved with the marketing?

windjc is disagree with my descision. He has his own reasonable arguments that i respect.
Due to this issues he steped back from marketing now, anyway i'm thankful for his help.


Zoidberg

Thank god windbag is gone.  He was a burden on BBR, not an asset.  SEO marketing?  Oh please, spare us that crap FFS.

At least he gave us some cheep berries, thanks to his rage dump!   Grin Grin Grin
Damn I missed some cheep berries...
1835  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [BBR] Boolberry: Privacy and Security - Guaranteed[Bittrex/Poloniex]GPU Released on: October 07, 2014, 11:05:19 AM
CZ, could you give us a statement what exactly happened? Is windjc still involved with the marketing?

windjc is disagree with my descision. He has his own reasonable arguments that i respect.
Due to this issues he steped back from marketing now, anyway i'm thankful for his help.


Zoidberg


Is he the one dumping? Or maybe another whale?
1836  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: rpietila Altcoin Observer on: October 06, 2014, 03:26:54 PM
Sometimes it's good to do primary research. The thing I took for granted - that altcoins are shattered when BTC sneezes - has proven to be a myth of highest order:

Code:
COIN	CAP15SEP	CAPNOW	REMAINS	REL/BTC
BTC 670000 442211 66 % 0 %
LTC 17350 12643 73 % 7 %
DOGE 3260 2786 85 % 19 %
PPC 1752 1848 105 % 39 %
DRK 1342 1073 80 % 14 %
NMC 1026 940 92 % 26 %
PTS 559 620 111 % 45 %
BTCD 721 401 56 % -10 %
XMR 627 350 56 % -10 %
BCN 280 200 71 % 5 %
FTC 126 186 148 % 82 %
QRK 252 178 71 % 5 %
XRP 15053 13704 91 % 25 %
BTSX 7327 5984 82 % 16 %
NXT 3794 2513 66 % 0 %
XCP 646 529 82 % 16 %

I selected Sept 15 to be the start of data due to that being the start of BTC fall (admittedly, it was selected to give a bad picture about BTC). My intention was to show that alts fall in sympathy, and generally leverage BTC's move down. This had been my experience with XMR.

Now, the data seems to give quite an opposing testimony. Over this period of time, only two alts (XMR and BTCD) exceeded BTC's decline. When BTC declined by 34% (seen above as "66% remaining"), the basket of alts (I used cubic-root weighting) declined by only 17%.

What do you think of this?  Shocked
Only blind BTC fanatics (not your case) could not see this - I made a BTC fortune from alts.

Some are here for the long term (as BTC) whether anybody likes it or not.
1837  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: October 06, 2014, 02:36:58 PM
Why Klee is such an angry twat:

FYI I got ALL IN on the way down @353$

 Cool

I am buying 5btc for every 10$ drop, lets see if I get broke! Tongue
How much have you bought in the past 2 days?  Roll Eyes
I started buying @390

5 @390
5 @380
5 @370

OOPS! BAHAHHAHA.
Dont regret it Wink

I just despise certain kind of whining men like Shroomie and lowmytech, no problem with bears or bulls (I have been both).
1838  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: October 06, 2014, 11:43:07 AM
Just to remind you perma-bulls, this picture doesn't look good.




There is a chance that the new fiat will start panic buying, but I don't think we will be going over $380



750000 Bitcoins have been bought and sold during the last 24 hours on exchanges alone and you are telling us that the market depth is only 15 K to near zero?
Just hit ignore...
1839  Economy / Speculation / Re: Gold collapsing. Bitcoin UP. on: October 06, 2014, 09:33:12 AM
And the wall is gone in a huge buy.  Really thrilling times to watch!

That's great news. I'm sleeping. How did it happen?

That's bullish.
Was bought!
1840  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: October 06, 2014, 09:27:06 AM
Idiot you are ignored, don't bother...
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