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1221  Economy / Speculation / Re: PnF TA on: August 19, 2015, 12:49:38 AM
ATR double bottomed 175$




Resistance 285-300, support 185-200.
1222  Economy / Speculation / Re: PnF TA on: August 19, 2015, 12:46:20 AM
CLOSE support 200-204:

1223  Economy / Speculation / Re: Direction is NNE (north northeast) - MOON TIME on: August 19, 2015, 12:41:52 AM
#REKT ?

Hope not...
1224  Economy / Speculation / Re: PnF TA on: August 19, 2015, 12:35:19 AM
Catapult ended:



'Support'  168-172, though the box size changes below 200, so take this with a grain of salt. TA anyways is pretty much useless for the next hours...

Well, it might be a mistake - but I am out of BTC and in fiat. Looking at the chart(also your PnF charts), I don't see a convincing bottom. (yet)

Long term:

315 -> 125 -> 215 -> 75 -> 145

Or maybe 315 -> 125 -> 240 -> 75 -> 145

so sub 100$ it is?
Probably not yet...

Jesus f@ckin Christ!
Just woke up.

Thank God I had cancelled my bid!

Holy shit....

What's your 1 month prognosis klee?
125-240 range chop
1225  Economy / Speculation / Re: PnF TA on: August 19, 2015, 12:16:24 AM
Jesus f@ckin Christ!
Just woke up.

Thank God I had cancelled my bid!

Holy shit....
1226  Economy / Speculation / Re: PnF TA on: August 18, 2015, 09:17:20 PM
I really don't get why people are selling when they should actually buy like mad. If you buy before fork, you will have bitcoins in two forks so no matter which one (or both) will be continued, you have bitcoins in both forks so you are safe. And in the opposite, when you sell, then you will have to decide which fork to buy in later ... Twisted logic huh?
If you have 100btc at 250$ your portfolio is 25K usd

If you have 2x100 btc in two chains you would have 50k usd! Not possible.

You have to go at least /2

So at least 250/2 per btc...

You don't get it. By buying before fork you are betting that one of them will succeed. And you have the same amount of shares in both of them which means you always win no matter what. If you sell, you are losing both and will have to guess later which one will win.
No you don't get it! Market will not let you double spend and suddenly be x2 richer. It will self adjust so you get at most the same amount of capital invested. AT BEST.

Please reread what i typed. I didn't say anything about double spend or that you will be 2 times richer. I said that no matter which fork will win, you will have it's shares and don't have to guess which one will it be. And if new fork for example will retain it's value and old one will still be mined because some people will want to, then you will be able to sell your bitcoins from old fork if someone will pay for them doh. It's so hard to get it?
I know what you say - let me rephrase it (lost in translation Tongue ).

If you don't sell now you will end up having coins in both chains at about the same value total in USD.

So better to sell now and double your coins in the winning chain.

Hope I made it more clear!

What makes you think both chains would have the same value?
If they are valued equally, which is the winner??
We don't know - that's why 'the market' will self adjust to a worst case scenario (equal weight).

So if today marketcap is 4bn, in order not to end up with 8bn marketcap, it will fall at least to 2bn.

It is creepy how the big support at 130$ (previous breakout for the last bubble ATH) is 260/2. 260 is where the last XT code was released.

1227  Economy / Speculation / Re: will those that intervened at $177 do so again. on: August 18, 2015, 09:09:42 PM
It is creepy how the big support at 130$ (previous breakout for the last bubble ATH) is 260/2. 260 is where the last XT code was released.
1228  Economy / Speculation / Re: will those that intervened at $177 do so again. on: August 18, 2015, 09:08:17 PM
I really don't get why people are selling when they should actually buy like mad. If you buy before fork, you will have bitcoins in two forks so no matter which one (or both) will be continued, you have bitcoins in both forks so you are safe. And in the opposite, when you sell, then you will have to decide which fork to buy in later ... Twisted logic huh?
If you have 100btc at 250$ your portfolio is 25K usd

If you have 2x100 btc in two chains you would have 50k usd! Not possible.

You have to go at least /2

So at least 250/2 per btc...

You don't get it. By buying before fork you are betting that one of them will succeed. And you have the same amount of shares in both of them which means you always win no matter what. If you sell, you are losing both and will have to guess later which one will win.
No you don't get it! Market will not let you double spend and suddenly be x2 richer. It will self adjust so you get at most the same amount of capital invested. AT BEST.

Please reread what i typed. I didn't say anything about double spend or that you will be 2 times richer. I said that no matter which fork will win, you will have it's shares and don't have to guess which one will it be. And if new fork for example will retain it's value and old one will still be mined because some people will want to, then you will be able to sell your bitcoins from old fork if someone will pay for them doh. It's so hard to get it?
I know what you say - let me rephrase it (lost in translation Tongue ).

If you don't sell now you will end up having coins in both chains at about the same value total in USD.

So better to sell now and double your coins in the winning chain.

Hope I made it more clear!

What makes you think both chains would have the same value?
If they are valued equally, which is the winner??
We don't know - that's why 'the market' will self adjust to a worst case scenario (equal weight).
1229  Economy / Speculation / Re: will those that intervened at $177 do so again. on: August 18, 2015, 09:04:25 PM
So if today marketcap is 4bn, in order not to end up with 8bn marketcap, it will fall at least to 2bn.
1230  Economy / Speculation / Re: will those that intervened at $177 do so again. on: August 18, 2015, 09:01:37 PM
I really don't get why people are selling when they should actually buy like mad. If you buy before fork, you will have bitcoins in two forks so no matter which one (or both) will be continued, you have bitcoins in both forks so you are safe. And in the opposite, when you sell, then you will have to decide which fork to buy in later ... Twisted logic huh?
If you have 100btc at 250$ your portfolio is 25K usd

If you have 2x100 btc in two chains you would have 50k usd! Not possible.

You have to go at least /2

So at least 250/2 per btc...

You don't get it. By buying before fork you are betting that one of them will succeed. And you have the same amount of shares in both of them which means you always win no matter what. If you sell, you are losing both and will have to guess later which one will win.
No you don't get it! Market will not let you double spend and suddenly be x2 richer. It will self adjust so you get at most the same amount of capital invested. AT BEST.

Please reread what i typed. I didn't say anything about double spend or that you will be 2 times richer. I said that no matter which fork will win, you will have it's shares and don't have to guess which one will it be. And if new fork for example will retain it's value and old one will still be mined because some people will want to, then you will be able to sell your bitcoins from old fork if someone will pay for them doh. It's so hard to get it?
I know what you say - let me rephrase it (lost in translation Tongue ).

If you don't sell now you will end up having coins in both chains at about the same value total in USD.

So better to sell now and double your coins in the winning chain.

Hope I made it more clear!
1231  Economy / Speculation / Re: PnF TA on: August 18, 2015, 08:52:27 PM
Bid 248, stop 246.7
1232  Economy / Speculation / Re: will those that intervened at $177 do so again. on: August 18, 2015, 08:49:12 PM
I really don't get why people are selling when they should actually buy like mad. If you buy before fork, you will have bitcoins in two forks so no matter which one (or both) will be continued, you have bitcoins in both forks so you are safe. And in the opposite, when you sell, then you will have to decide which fork to buy in later ... Twisted logic huh?
If you have 100btc at 250$ your portfolio is 25K usd

If you have 2x100 btc in two chains you would have 50k usd! Not possible.

You have to go at least /2

So at least 250/2 per btc...

You don't get it. By buying before fork you are betting that one of them will succeed. And you have the same amount of shares in both of them which means you always win no matter what. If you sell, you are losing both and will have to guess later which one will win.
No you don't get it! Market will not let you double spend and suddenly be x2 richer. It will self adjust so you get at most the same amount of capital invested. AT BEST.
1233  Economy / Speculation / Re: will those that intervened at $177 do so again. on: August 18, 2015, 08:41:22 PM
I really don't get why people are selling when they should actually buy like mad. If you buy before fork, you will have bitcoins in two forks so no matter which one (or both) will be continued, you have bitcoins in both forks so you are safe. And in the opposite, when you sell, then you will have to decide which fork to buy in later ... Twisted logic huh?
If you have 100btc at 250$ your portfolio is 25K usd

If you have 2x100 btc in two chains you would have 50k usd! Not possible.

You have to go at least /2

So at least 250/2 per btc...
1234  Economy / Speculation / Re: PnF TA on: August 18, 2015, 08:38:54 PM
Well, it might be a mistake - but I am out of BTC and in fiat. Looking at the chart(also your PnF charts), I don't see a convincing bottom. (yet)

Long term:

315 -> 125 -> 215 -> 75 -> 145

Or maybe 315 -> 125 -> 240 -> 75 -> 145
1235  Economy / Speculation / Re: PnF TA on: August 18, 2015, 08:26:39 PM


1236  Economy / Speculation / Re: PnF TA on: August 18, 2015, 06:44:58 PM
What went wrong there?

He was pimping Monero for a long time and had (has?) a huge stake in it. Last I saw he was working on Cryptokingdom, an RPG with a built in altcoin. It just annoys me seeing smart and charismatic people use their talent to take money from the gullible, but I suppose the world works like that on many levels--they should just be run for office and be done with it Wink
Fontas v.2
1237  Economy / Speculation / Re: PnF TA on: August 18, 2015, 06:23:58 PM
Everyone should have been short since $315 which is what I said first. And I should have stuck to that. Predicting the short-term moves is going to get you stopped out and you'll miss the entire decline. Everyone who did not short at $315 has already lost the decline to $254.

Trading is easy in hindsight as markets can do anything at anytime. That's why it's more about managing risk/protecting profits than being able to predict great moves.

A short from $300 looks amazing now but it's extremely difficult to do in the moment. And if we slingshot up from here in a few days, a long today would look amazing in hindsight. But what if it doesn't? Maybe we skid to $240 and go up from there. How does one plan for each possible scenario? You can't really. Fear, uncertainty and doubt are a trader's worst enemy.

Also, careful about being the charismatic great predictor. You'll gain a huge following then lose credibility the one time you're wrong. Just ask rpietila leading his newb army into Monero and whatever other go-nowhere altcoin project he was working on.
What went wrong there?
1238  Economy / Speculation / Re: PnF TA on: August 18, 2015, 06:11:28 PM
If you deliver it

^this

kLee even $1000 will be enough to set you up for life. Make sure you still have that much spare 6 months from now.
I will invest as much as I can (probably 1000 would be a minimum).

But there are more to do than only invest...
1239  Economy / Speculation / Re: PnF TA on: August 18, 2015, 06:08:14 PM
Then you permabulls really need to buy my coin  Tongue
I will short the top of it Tongue

haha. Here is an overview of what you'll be battling:

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1049048.msg12175683#msg12175683
I will invest only in this and you know it - I will contact you when my mind & soul is ready, I can't focus on such a serious effort atm  Undecided
EDIT: I will contact you in general, not only for the project (you don't need me anyway).

Also I am off base and productivity suffers!

If you deliver it will be difficult to others compete with you.
1240  Economy / Speculation / Re: PnF TA on: August 18, 2015, 05:56:35 PM
Then you permabulls really need to buy my coin  Tongue
I will short the top of it Tongue
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