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961  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Sports betting Picks ( RECORD 143-64-16) on: August 08, 2013, 10:03:04 PM
are you going to be doing football this year?  Shocked
962  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Crowdfund Homes in Detroit? on: August 07, 2013, 05:36:50 PM
It'd be like real-life Minecraft.

Build during the day, and seek shelter at night... rinse, repeat.

This ^^ . I would call this an "adventure" not "bring your family" to my house sort of stuff lol
963  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Crowdfund Homes in Detroit? on: August 07, 2013, 05:34:45 PM
the biggest proponets against this think we'll all be dead lol ...

Why can't we just have some armed guards outside wearing Bitcoin armour?
964  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: If you could subscribe to sites w/ Bitcoins... on: August 07, 2013, 03:43:52 AM
Pandora

Didn't even know Pandora has a subscription ?
965  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: If you could subscribe to sites w/ Bitcoins... on: August 07, 2013, 03:41:09 AM
Xbox live :-P

xbox live also!
966  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: If you could subscribe to sites w/ Bitcoins... on: August 07, 2013, 01:30:29 AM
waiting on spotify  Smiley

I agree spotify would be nice.
967  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Crowdfund Homes in Detroit? on: August 06, 2013, 01:45:43 AM
Lol. I can imagine something similar to [ur=lhttps://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Wire]The Wire[/url].

A large Bitcoin holder buys up a bunch of homes.  Turns them in to stash houses, hires a gang of youngsters and gives them each burner phones as well as a bitcoin address.  The gang peddles drugs and hands over the loot to a cleaner who launders the money through bitcoin.  The gang gets payed weekly through their bitcoin address.

Sounds like a good cypherpunk book.

dude, write that shit up haha
968  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Crowdfund Homes in Detroit? on: August 06, 2013, 01:39:09 AM

Yet in this case its deal, deal then DEAL!   You make it what you want it to be. If for some reason Detroit turns it around you ( us ) are sitting on a goldmind as Bitcoiner's. Just my 2 cents.

Also, it's a relatively cold climate, and with an AC unit, a basement could be ideal for hosting miners.  E-Commerce can be done from a basement as well.

Both of these things would help the Bitcoin community.

I agree.  I'm just trying to figure out "reward tiers". Those would be interesting no doubt.
969  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Crowdfund Homes in Detroit? on: August 06, 2013, 01:37:07 AM
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3. governmental collapse - it's a good thing. The quicker they let the government of Detroit die completely, the better. There is already a private police force that has started up to good reviews. There is also a private bus system that is probably the best in the nation as far as service goes.

I agree. The less enforcement the more freedom the more we make it the way we want it. I'm not sure why people don't think we can make this the way we want it.

1.] Our own protection service

2.] Our own jobs via whatever methods we develop in-house i.e., website development services , bitcoin mining   I mean we are pretty smart people I think we can figure it out! I mean you all make it sounds like seasteading has a better chance then detroit! lol

Don't know but there would be like one or two people who live there ( or whomever pledges can live there) so they will always be maintained.
970  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Crowdfund Homes in Detroit? on: August 06, 2013, 01:34:37 AM
I thought most ppl here knew the golden rule of buying property. Location, then location, and finally location.

The second rule is buy quality for a good price. Not shit for cheap. There is a reason homes in detroit are cheap. It is due to the people who live there. No one wants neighbors that will take revenge on you and yours just because you try to better yourself. Fix up your home, drive a nice car, and take pride in yourself? You are now a target.

Detroit is not Boston in the 60s and 70s. That 5000 dollar home full of lead paint and abestos is there because the ppl in charge of detroit kicked the can down the road one too many times. Maybe in a generation or two the time will come for a rebound.

Yet in this case its deal, deal then DEAL!   You make it what you want it to be. If for some reason Detroit turns it around you ( us ) are sitting on a goldmind as Bitcoiner's. Just my 2 cents.
971  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Crowdfund Homes in Detroit? on: August 06, 2013, 12:52:38 AM
Luckily we have a Bitcoin arms dealer now! 

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=266556.0

We can take over Detroit Cheesy

+1! sweet deal!  Grin
972  Other / Beginners & Help / BitcoinLister.com on: August 06, 2013, 12:44:16 AM
http://www.bitcoinlister.com/

looking for something that is sort of a bookmarks of bitcoin check it out!
973  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: If you could subscribe to sites w/ Bitcoins on: August 06, 2013, 12:43:13 AM
porn Smiley
974  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Crowdfund Homes in Detroit? on: August 06, 2013, 12:42:54 AM
Can it really be that bad?

The crime rate right now in Detroit is completely insane.

So we are all gunna die when we move into our new homes? lol
975  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Crowdfund Homes in Detroit? on: August 06, 2013, 12:27:02 AM
I'm not sure knocking down old shoddy buildings for farmland is a very good idea. What do you think the chances are that the old buildings you are demolishing were painted with lead paint? Even if you disposed of the house materials in the proper way (hazmat precautions required, very very expensive) the ground around where the houses were demolished would be unusable due to the contact it had with the house in standing condition.

I think it would be incredibly neat to have a Bitcoin crowd funding project buy up an area, but I think we may have better luck in another area that is insanely cheap. I have often though of buying a lot of land out in a very rural area, and then creating a large business there. Jobs would attract people to move there, and essentially grow the area into a town. Detroit may still be feasible, but perhaps with a different plan than funding by farming.

The reason I had Detroit in mind is the transportation and infrastructer is already there. Mainly, we snatch up some land/property and convert into a bitcoin shanty town to start and spreading out as we go. At least that is my thinking.  Grin

I have a feeling this might be our only chance.

property taxes

they can be included I mean $5,000 + property taxes isn't going to break the bank.

they better pay me 5000 in taxes to live in detroit....

Can it really be that bad?
976  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Crowdfund Homes in Detroit? on: August 06, 2013, 12:26:37 AM

The reason I had Detroit in mind is the transportation and infrastructer is already there. Mainly, we snatch up some land/property and convert into a bitcoin shanty town to start and spreading out as we go. At least that is my thinking.  Grin

I have a feeling this might be our only chance.

The infrastructure is very worn, but true that could be fixed more easily than building it all from scratch. It would be neat, but there are a few things that could break the project. First, we would need to create jobs so people could work and afford to live there. We would also need to repair the houses to liveable conditions. So while it may only cost $500 to buy a house, it would still cost many thousands to repair them. Then we would have to deal with crime. Those in areas that weren't improving would be targeting the area that is. I have a feeling the few police officers left in Detroit would be hanging around our section, because we would be the only ones paying taxes, but security would still be an issue. I suppose its doable, but we have to first figure out how to recoup our costs so we can continue expanding.

As for property taxes, I'm sure we could just talk to the mayor and perhaps find some business loophole that would lower the taxes for our project while we were getting everything set up. I would think they would be more interested in a reduced tax rate, rather than none at all.


edit* Also, did a bit of looking into it, rather than aiming at the $500 houses, I'd say aiming at the $10,000-$20,000 houses is a better plan. There are actually quite a few of them that don't look like they are in ghettos.

I agree. $10,000 - $20,000  range houses. Property taxes could be talked down with a mayor I'm sure.  I think jobs can be through some fashion of what we do from the houses that are snatched up. Bitcoin mining, growing stuff ( illegal or legal) ummm there should be way to supplant some sort of basic income.  I think security is something we all would be good at . Libertarians are big pro-gun supporters so some would come along for it.
977  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Crowdfund Homes in Detroit? on: August 05, 2013, 11:54:14 PM
I'm not sure knocking down old shoddy buildings for farmland is a very good idea. What do you think the chances are that the old buildings you are demolishing were painted with lead paint? Even if you disposed of the house materials in the proper way (hazmat precautions required, very very expensive) the ground around where the houses were demolished would be unusable due to the contact it had with the house in standing condition.

I think it would be incredibly neat to have a Bitcoin crowd funding project buy up an area, but I think we may have better luck in another area that is insanely cheap. I have often though of buying a lot of land out in a very rural area, and then creating a large business there. Jobs would attract people to move there, and essentially grow the area into a town. Detroit may still be feasible, but perhaps with a different plan than funding by farming.

The reason I had Detroit in mind is the transportation and infrastructer is already there. Mainly, we snatch up some land/property and convert into a bitcoin shanty town to start and spreading out as we go. At least that is my thinking.  Grin

I have a feeling this might be our only chance.

property taxes

they can be included I mean $5,000 + property taxes isn't going to break the bank.
978  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Crowdfund Homes in Detroit? on: August 05, 2013, 11:45:38 PM
I'm not sure knocking down old shoddy buildings for farmland is a very good idea. What do you think the chances are that the old buildings you are demolishing were painted with lead paint? Even if you disposed of the house materials in the proper way (hazmat precautions required, very very expensive) the ground around where the houses were demolished would be unusable due to the contact it had with the house in standing condition.

I think it would be incredibly neat to have a Bitcoin crowd funding project buy up an area, but I think we may have better luck in another area that is insanely cheap. I have often though of buying a lot of land out in a very rural area, and then creating a large business there. Jobs would attract people to move there, and essentially grow the area into a town. Detroit may still be feasible, but perhaps with a different plan than funding by farming.

The reason I had Detroit in mind is the transportation and infrastructer is already there. Mainly, we snatch up some land/property and convert into a bitcoin shanty town to start and spreading out as we go. At least that is my thinking.  Grin

I have a feeling this might be our only chance.
979  Bitcoin / Project Development / NFC Ring is using Bitcoins on: August 05, 2013, 07:38:44 PM
Just a reminder 7 more days to fund NFC ring in Bitcoins:

https://bitcoinstarter.com/projects/121
980  Economy / Services / Re: Someone who understands BitFunder on: August 04, 2013, 05:38:56 AM
It could be a flat fee or a %, depends. 

Are you looking for some help in launching the whole thing, or just helping you with the write-up?

Would be willing to help launch, but was waiting to see if others were going to step up.

Not real sure yet. Do you know if a company has to have revenue to make this work out the gate?
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