Однако это означает что нужно излагать в посте какую то оригинальную мысль или суждение. Но чтобы это сделать надо обладать определённым набором информации и её осознать, обдумать чтобы изложить в посте доходчиво и по возможности точно, ну и кратко, но так чтобы менеджер, даже прочтя три слова, понял бы, что это именно оригинально уникальное суждение и тогда зачёт. Но часто наши рассуждения сводятся к письменной констатации каких то банальных общеизвестных вещей в которых нет ни йоты оригинальности, зато часто присутствует мировоззрение. Вот я и думаю, а собственно какими критериями оперируют менеджеры чтобы проводить эту очень тонкую и расплывчатую грань между оригинальностью поста и его банальностью. И все как не крути упирается в индивидуальность менеджера и его знания и понимание предметов обсуждения. Вероятно также в его идеологические установки и предпочтения. На объективность можно рассчитывать только если менеджер сам хорошо разбирается в теме, посты в которой он оценивает. Или если посты оценивает не один человек, а некий коллектив экспертов, специалистов. Например в темах о кодинге или ПО для майнинга. Без экспертов тут точно не обойтись. Таким образом менеджер, если он качественно и ответственно подходит с своему делу должен быть руководителем такого небольшого коллектива специалистов. Но это по правильному так, а как оно по жизни на форуме я вот сейчас даже и не представляю. А хотел бы понимать механику процессов и кстати для того, чтобы как один из участников подписных не заниматься тем, чтобы считать свои посты нормальными в то время когда менеджер не считает их достойными для качественной рекламы казино, миксеров, обменников и т.д. Вот в частности мне интересно соответствует ли этот мой пост критериям качества постинга достойного подписных ? Как вы думаете ? Думаю что вы ничего не поняли из того что написал Ratimov  зато свою простыню текста написали  |
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We've boasted, and now let's get down to business. For example, a citizen received 3 transfers of 3 thousand dollars per month. The American IRS will consider this income and send a letter demanding payment of tax. And an obedient citizen will pay. In Russia, it's not like that. The Russian will bring documents that this is not income, but money from the sale of his grandmother’s old wardrobe, which belonged to the family for many years. And the tax inspector will not be able to check this, because the time of the case is limited, and he does not have the resources to find another person in a large country you might be able to get away with that once or twice but the more you try and play that game at some point they're not going to believe you anymore. at least with the irs. and i doubt with any government. they'll requiring proof of the sale so they can verify it and then you're in trouble. not only for lying to them that time but maybe in the past too. Do you think in Russia inspectors use wooden abacuses and send out notifications by pigeon mail?
based on how you described how easy it is to commit fraud there yes it sounds like it.  "Criminal Code of the Russian Federation Article 159: Fraud, that is, the theft of someone else’s property or the acquisition of rights to someone else’s property through deception or abuse of trust." What you call fraud is not fraud in Russia. This article is about non-payment of taxes by an individual. For example, a citizen received $10,000 from 1 person, then you can try to find the sender and prove non-payment of taxes, and if it is a transfer from 20-30 people for $200-500, then you need to take testimony from all of these people. No one will do this, and a citizen is not obliged to testify against himself and make the work of the tax inspector easier. The largest shadow market for exchanging cryptocurrencies in Moscow, you can easily exchange cryptocurrencies for tens of millions of dollars in cash there. If the law works that way, then that’s how it should be. There is such a practice in the world: the better the standard of living, the fewer freedoms citizens have, but in Russia there are a lot of freedoms |
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Yes, same here and that is exactly my point mate. This criminals will go to this lengths to get all the information and this are going to be used and will be at their disposal whenever they created accounts in exchange, maybe hire someone as well to take selfies and that's it.
That's why even here in the Philippines, there are a lot of P2P scams attempts already and for sure there are a lot of victims. But governments and police can't do anything about it even if you get all the information from exchanges because they are all false.
Warn everyone you can. Yes, that's what I did, I put a warning in our local board so that no one can fall for it. I even try to track that account after he try to scam me and the exchange favor my side that no money was sent to my wallet, hence it was really a scam attempt. But it's going to be a long battle for us, scammers will try to create a new account after I exposed one of them. But the battle will continue though, if I encounter a new one, definitely I will give another warning. Fraudsters may have dozens of accounts on exchanges, and some in preparation, that are honestly making exchanges and gaining positive reviews. It is impossible to track all scammers, but exchanges should be made only with verified participants who have been doing this for more than a year, but their prices will be lower than those of scammers. |
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I have always had an alternative opinion about the rise of Bitcoin and I believe that this asset was manipulated for a long time by certain people who mined it in the early years and bought it cheap. Although I am new to the Bitcoin space but most of the price manipulation of Bitcoin that I know was caused by the fall of exchanges, ban in China and dump by institutions like Elon Musk's SpaceX. It will also be of great interest to me if you can identify some of these early adopters who manipulate the market since most of them are anonymous. A proof the validate this position will clear my doubt. The SEC does not want capital flowing from the dollar to cryptocurrencies. A spot ETF will attract large capital to the market, with which they will buy bitcoins, so the old manipulator will lose its influence in this market. Now, manipulating the price of Bitcoin will require a lot of money.
Interesting theory or stupidity?
Does this mean that the SEC is conspiring with these old manipulators to control the market? Look at the chart of Bitcoin and other cryptocurrencies. Very characteristic candles. A rapid rise in the price of a coin or a rapid fall in price. If there is a rise or fall of 50%, all margin positions from x2 and above are liquidated. This is how hamsters are usually cut. If you are interested in my opinion about the SEC, then certain agreements are always present. For example, the SEC does not pursue Ethereum despite the ICО. How did the FTX exchange appear? Binance specialists helped when they had problems with SEC in the USA. This could all be a coincidence of course |
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~snip~
In any case, the only thing I wonder is the effect that the approval of an ETF in USA could have on the bitcoin price, otherwise it is ETF after all and that is not the way we want bitcoin to be adopted... so it isn't really something we want to be excited about.
If we look realistically at how an average Bitcoin investor thinks, then we don't need to look for any additional explanation as to why so much dust is being raised around this ETF. The whole thing revolves around the fact that most people are counting on BlackRock and other companies of that type to cause a big bull run, and all that remains after that is to sell BTC and take as much profit as possible. Of course, these same people are counting on the fact that sooner or later the price will drop significantly again and that they will be able to repeat the whole process again, but the question is whether history will repeat itself with such big players in the game. What should also not be forgotten is the position expressed by BlackRock regarding possible forks, and this opens up a completely new dimension in terms of how they think about it - which leads to the conclusion that at some point they may even try a fork of their own. A spot ETF is convenient in many ways because certified organizations will be responsible for storing bitcoins, and large investors will have access to the market. The SEC has spent many years closing the financial floodgates to prevent money from flowing into the cryptocurrency market, and with the opening of the spot ETF, a huge hole is opening. lol. |
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Do you not know that without bitcoin, altcoins are dead. Check bitcoin price and most altcoins price, you will see how altcoin prices can increase when bitcoin price is increasing, and decrease when bitcoin price is decreasing. But this does not change the fact that some altcoins may become dead coin and some may not reach ATH.
I can give you examples when the price of altcoins falls or does not change, but the price of bitcoin rises. Then altcoins from the top 50 are bought for expensive bitcoin and a pump occurs, then the overflow goes to other altcoins and the crappiest projects grow, and then the hamsters remain long-term hodlers of useless altcoins. This is exactly how manipulators work. "The show must go on" (C). ___ my opinion about ETF https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5464432.msg62778682#msg62778682 |
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May I know, bbc.reporter, zasad@ and Fiatless, how do you see Ethereum as a commodity?
Something that you can increase the supply of at will Vitalik Buterin, and that is, in fact, potentially infinite I don't see it as a commodity as one of the characteristics of them is that they are finite and cannot be produced at will.
I see this as bad news, because for me the only commodity is Bitcoin for its essential properties that it does not share with any shitcoin (I do not know all of them, I suppose that some could be, such as Litecoin, which is very similar to Bitcoin but certainly not Eth).
I have said many times that Ethereum is an untouchable coin for regulators. The project has a very serious lobby, and Vitalik Buterin is not a decision-maker, but a representative of the project. Neither the head of the SEC nor legislators have been able to define what Ethereum is for many years, and here is such a surprise. The judge solved a long-standing problem. The news is positive, because now other projects will be able to develop and this will benefit the Bitcoin ecosystem. |
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Первый юридический прецедент в США: Эфириум является товаромhttps://www.coindesk.com/policy/2023/08/31/us-court-calls-eth-a-commodity-while-tossing-investor-suit-against-uniswap/"Суд США назвал ETH товаром в деле инвесторов против Uniswap Судья из Нью-Йорка отказался использовать федеральные законы о ценных бумагах в коллективном иске инвесторов с требованием привлечь Uniswap к ответственности за «мошеннические токены», выпущенные на его платформе. Судья, которая курирует иск SEC против Coinbase, по своему мнению классифицировала эфириум (ETH) как товар, хотя SEC уклонялась от этого." Почему Эфириум в адресах содержит только смесь цифр 0-1-2-3-4-5-6-7-8-9 и букв abcdef?https://twitter.com/codeesura/status/1694381065643692348ArmutBey(С) "Адреса Ethereum состоят из набора буквенно-цифровых символов, сгенерированных криптографически. Формат, в котором создаются эти символы, представляет собой шестнадцатеричную систему, которая включает цифры от 0 до 9 и буквы от a до F."
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There is no need to overestimate the capabilities of the tax office. I will tell you an example from my country, Russia. In Russia, out of 80 million working-age population, approximately 25-30 million people do not work officially and do not even intend to pay taxes. All people have bank cards and the tax office can see their income and expenses. But in my region, for example, there are a million people, of which 300,000 do not pay taxes. And in the tax office, for these 300,000 people in the entire region, there are 100 tax inspectors who are not able to check all the people, and if a person is legally literate, then such an audit can take a very long time, because he will complain about the actions of the inspectors. Therefore, tax inspectors check only the largest tax evaders. It is not yet profitable to work with small ones.
that's not how it works in the usa. so consider yourself lucky maybe. the irs uses computers to send out letters telling people what they owe. Do you think in Russia inspectors use wooden abacuses and send out notifications by pigeon mail? If you have heard about a system such as gosuslugi.ru, then this system allows a citizen to interact with all government bodies and services. From making an appointment with a doctor and selling a car and real estate to obtaining a pension certificate and sending any complaints right up to the Office of the President. There are no analogues in the USA and Europe. The tax office also has a separate large service for all taxpayers. We've boasted, and now let's get down to business. For example, a citizen received 3 transfers of 3 thousand dollars per month. The American IRS will consider this income and send a letter demanding payment of tax. And an obedient citizen will pay. In Russia, it's not like that. The Russian will bring documents that this is not income, but money from the sale of his grandmother’s old wardrobe, which belonged to the family for many years. And the tax inspector will not be able to check this, because the time of the case is limited, and he does not have the resources to find another person in a large country |
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I had no doubts about Ethereum. This coin is banned from any SEC claims.
This is a very important precedent for all similar coins that have not recently sold their coins to unqualified investors. With such news, Ethereum and Bitcoin now have a chance for a new pump.
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I don't think the Securities and Exchange Commission is losing a lot of money when looking at the fines large exchanges and other crypto projects have paid them.
With the spot ETF, the issue has already been resolved, but it is not known when they will be approved and start working. I think that this will happen no earlier than 2024, and before that you need to lure bitcoins from hodles, so the price should still go down so that the hamsters will sell at a slight increase in price.
Yeah I forgot about that part They also earn a lot of money from SEC fee stock and fines large exchanges and other investments that are related to the SEC. I hope they approve after halving so the market can be as high as Mars not just the moon hahhaha. I have always had an alternative opinion about the rise of Bitcoin and I believe that this asset was manipulated for a long time by certain people who mined it in the early years and bought it cheap. No one here can answer the simple question of why the SEC is banning spot ETFs? Situation now  The SEC does not want capital flowing from the dollar to cryptocurrencies. A spot ETF will attract large capital to the market, with which they will buy bitcoins, so the old manipulator will lose its influence in this market. Now, manipulating the price of Bitcoin will require a lot of money. Interesting theory or stupidity? |
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the Sec loses much money and cases from XRP, Binance and Coinbase and now Grayscale  What do you mean by losing money by the way? Do they need to pay money to argue their case in court? I never thought that was the case. Do you have any statistics on how much money they need to pay for each case? What statistics do you want to see if the SEC has lost several court cases? https://www.sec.gov/news/press-release/2022-206"Nov. 15, 2022 — The Securities and Exchange Commission today announced that it filed 760 total enforcement actions in fiscal year 2022, a 9 percent increase over the prior year. These included 462 new, or "stand alone," enforcement actions, a 6.5 percent increase over fiscal year 2021; 129 actions against issuers who were allegedly delinquent in making required filings with the SEC; and 169 "follow-on" administrative proceedings seeking to bar or suspend individuals from certain functions in the securities markets based on criminal convictions, civil injunctions, or other orders. The SEC’s stand-alone enforcement actions in fiscal year 2022 ran the gamut of conduct, from "first-of-their-kind" actions to cases charging traditional securities law violations. Money ordered in SEC actions, comprising civil penalties, disgorgement, and pre-judgment interest, totaled $6.439 billion, the most on record in SEC history and up from $3.852 billion in fiscal year 2021. Of the total money ordered, civil penalties, at $4.194 billion, were also the highest on record. Disgorgement, at $2.245 billion, decreased by 6 percent from fiscal year 2021. Fiscal year 2022 was the SEC’s second highest year ever in whistleblower awards, in terms of both the number of individuals awarded and the total dollar amounts awarded." https://www.cornerstone.com/insights/press-releases/sec-tightens-cryptocurrency-enforcement/SEC Tightens Cryptocurrency Enforcement Most projects and crypto exchanges agreed to fines and settled the problems before trial. And not a single crypto project will increase the conflict with the SEC if it wants to work in the American market. |
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https://decrypt.co/154312/uniswap-lawsuit-dismissed-defi-crypto-exchange-not-liable-for-scam-tokensИск к Uniswap отклонен: криптовалютная биржа DeFi не несет ответственности за «мошеннические токены» "Судья, рассматривавший иск, сравнил претензии с преследованием Venmo или Zelle за сделку по продаже наркотиков, произошедшую на платежной платформе. Коллективный иск, поданный против Uniswap, был отклонен во вторник окружным судьей, который установил, что лица, связанные с децентрализованной биржей, не несут ответственности за так называемые мошеннические токены, которые банкротили трейдеров. Иск, поданный трейдером Нессой Рисли в апреле прошлого года от имени других пользователей Uniswap, обвинил разработчиков и инвесторов децентрализованной биржи в нарушении законов о ценных бумагах. В нем утверждалось, что биржа является незарегистрированным брокером и дилером, предлагает незарегистрированные ценные бумаги и позволяет эмитентам токенов обманывать инвесторов. Речь идет о токенах Matrix Samurai (MXS), Rocket Bunny (BUNNY) и Alphawolf Finance (AWF). Судья Южного округа Нью-Йорка Кэтрин Полк Файлла, отклонившая дело, заявила, что «дилемма» истцов заключается в псевдоанонимном характере этих эмитентов токенов. «В идеальном (или, по крайней мере, более прозрачном) мире истцы могли бы требовать возмещения у реальных эмитентов, которые их обманули», — написала она. «В отсутствие такой информации истцам остается утверждать, что [Uniswap Labs] содействовала рассматриваемым сделкам»."
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And now the founders of the project will tell us many interesting stories about how “Argentina is one of the most advanced countries in the world in the field of cryptocurrencies.” In fact, in those countries where the standard of living is very poor, there will always be a shortage of free distribution of any tokecons. Other countries have very strict privacy laws. |
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Пример проекта, который вы оценивайте?
Например, в 2021 году, когда появилось много новых проектов, я торговала такими токенами как UNI, AVAX и CRV. Все три были новыми для меня, все три какое-то время показывали очень хороший (по моим меркам) рост. И мне удавалось заработать на них от 100% до 300%. Но, как это обычно и бывает, когда бычий рынок подходит к концу, все три начали по-тихоньку сдуваться, а потом и вовсе обвалились, и гораздо больше, чем на 300%. Поэтому теряла я на них тоже знатно. Так вот когда я вынуждено осталась владельцем этих токенов, и уже было понятно, что очередной рост планирует не скоро, передо мной встал вопрос, стоит ли вообще оставаться в каком-либо из них, или же нужно продавать, фиксировать убытки, и возвращаться к торговле чем-то более надежным, как биткоин или эфир. И я для этого оценивала ликвидность в том числе. Пользовалась для этого в основном биржами, на которых торговала, а также trading view и coinmarketcap. И решила, что имеет смысл продолжать держать только AVAX, остальные я продала и вышла с концами. И сейчас, по прошествию 2-х лет, я вижу, что AVAX держится, по крайней мере, цена хотя бы выше, чем та, по которой я брала его, тогда как UNI и CRV где-то рядом с Титаником плавают. И я теперь по их цене вижу, что тогда еще успела удачно продать, несмотря на убытки. Давайте посмотрим на солану и на ДеФи  Статистика с Cryptorank. Эфириум с его экосистемами будет жить точно,я покупаю матик, арбитрум, оптимизм. Но я не фан альтов, поэтому збираю свои деньги на 3 иксах и выше, а с остальным сижу спокойно. UNI, CRV, аваланч неплохие альты и брать сейчас не ошибка, т к там уже падать сильно некуда. Вопрос в другом, что пампить их снова будут, когда манипулятры отберут много монет у хомяков, а иначе поезд не поедет. |
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I guess that this new crypto tax rule might only last during the Biden administration, because during the tenor of the past US president, there was not much of this crypto regulation rule, which is why I believe that after Biden's tenor is over, this rule may not hold strong as it could also get dissolved.
I am not really cool with the rule because I am thinking that the tax regulatory authorities might be able to keep track of the total amount of money that any user is going to be investing into Bitcoin. It is also worrisome that people who are investing just as little as $20 consistently every week via DCA would have to pay tax on each transaction.
Are you really sure that the rules depend on this president? The same rules are being introduced as a carbon copy in all countries, and there is nothing you can do about it. All financial transactions around the world will follow the same rules and there will be no anonymous payments. If you have coins on centralized exchanges, then it is better to take all measures now and withdraw them to cold wallets if you are not a trader. |
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Good news zasad@ it looks like the Grayscale won the lawsuit against the SEC as the mentioned by Yahoo Financial here "Grayscale Investments won a lawsuit against the SEC that may allow it to convert the Grayscale Bitcoin Trust (GBTC) to an ETF, a watershed ruling that brings investors a step closer to the highly anticipated spot bitcoin exchange-traded fund." - https://finance.yahoo.com/news/grayscale-wins-lawsuit-launch-spot-211815209.htmlIt seems the SEC is losing the game against the crypto company but I am gonna see when this gonna stop  hahaha, I also read this news. Of course, the SEC is unable to adequately explain why they allow a futures ETF and prohibit a spot ETF. If there is no appeal, the SEC will soon approve many applications, and most likely the first will be the large funds BlackRock and Fidelity. the Sec loses much money and cases from XRP, Binance and Coinbase and now Grayscale since BlackRock and Fidelity Is one of the most biggest Fund Manager I think the approval rate would be still above 70% and SEC is approved maybe we gonna se bitcoin price move again. also the deadline is near  I don't think the Securities and Exchange Commission is losing a lot of money when looking at the fines large exchanges and other crypto projects have paid them. With the spot ETF, the issue has already been resolved, but it is not known when they will be approved and start working. I think that this will happen no earlier than 2024, and before that you need to lure bitcoins from hodles, so the price should still go down so that the hamsters will sell at a slight increase in price. |
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According to the FATF rules, the KYC procedure must be completed for the sender and recipient of cryptocurrencies in the amount of more than $1,000. And until the recipient is unknown, the exchange should not allow such a transaction. We only need to prepare for the worst, because soon such restrictions will apply first to all large exchanges and then to medium and small ones. Nobody wants criminal charges.
no one wants the scrutiny of the IRS on them. because an audit won't just stop with investigating how much coffee they bought at starbucks using their bitcoin debit card. it's going to go into every thing on their entire tax return and income and everything so they can try and get as much out of that taxpayer as possible. just answering "YES" on the tax return about if you used crypto in the past year well you might as well be answering the question "Would you like for us to make an extra consideration to audit you?" There is no need to overestimate the capabilities of the tax office. I will tell you an example from my country, Russia. In Russia, out of 80 million working-age population, approximately 25-30 million people do not work officially and do not even intend to pay taxes. All people have bank cards and the tax office can see their income and expenses. But in my region, for example, there are a million people, of which 300,000 do not pay taxes. And in the tax office, for these 300,000 people in the entire region, there are 100 tax inspectors who are not able to check all the people, and if a person is legally literate, then such an audit can take a very long time, because he will complain about the actions of the inspectors. Therefore, tax inspectors check only the largest tax evaders. It is not yet profitable to work with small ones. |
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Agreed many NFT's have little long-term value, but they do have a good side. Many talented artists (some of whom would have no other way to sell their products) have found happy customers for their creative work. I hope the SEC doesn't try to claim all NFT's are securities, that would be way too Draconian, imo.
It turns out that the NFT token also comes in Utility and Security. But most NFT tokens are scams. There is no need to worry that all NFT tokens will be banned. Most of these projects will not survive this regulation because they do not have enough resources for the courts. And in principle, this is good for the crypto market, because after the precedent, similar projects will be closed. Unlike coins, the price of NFT tokens is very easy to manipulate and reduce or increase tax profits. |
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